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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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14._o 1._o 4._o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o all_o to_o be_v officer_n there_o in_o that_o church_n but_o not_o to_o be_v officer_n in_o other_o place_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n p._n 71_o 72._o an._n 1._o the_o second_o and_o forth_o particular_n be_v answer_v in_o our_o reply_n to_o dr._n collings_n whether_o we_o refer_v the_o reader_n the_o first_o and_o three_o particular_n reach_v not_o the_o business_n for_o the_o question_n here_o be_v not_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o office_n either_o ordinary_a or_o extraordinary_a but_o whither_o every_o man_n who_o be_v a_o member_n of_o corinth_n or_o other_o church_n may_v covet_v to_o be_v officer_n every_o man_n in_o a_o church_n may_v desire_v to_o have_v gift_n that_o he_o may_v be_v the_o more_o useful_a in_o the_o body_n to_o fellow-member_n but_o every_o man_n may_v not_o desire_v office_n for_o that_o be_v to_o desire_v to_o be_v over_o it_o and_o if_o this_o desire_n shall_v be_v grant_v that_o all_o shall_v become_v officer_n 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