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A52021 A new survey of the Turkish empire and government in a brief history deduced to this present time, and the reign of the now Grand Seignior, Mahomet the IV, the present and XIV emperor : with their laws, religion, and customs : as also an account of the siege of Newhausel. Marsh, Henry, fl. 1663-1664. 1663 (1663) Wing M729A; ESTC R15790 58,977 200

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any publick Office to wear have Arms or habit like a Turk or else to use the recreations of cheerfulness as Pageants Playes or Dancings If they injure Christ or you with bitter or contumacious words you must be silent and endure it If you speak ought against their professed Religion you are forced to Circumcision and but to whisper against Mahomet Fire and Brimstone followeth If a Christian on horseback pass by a Musselman that is one initiated in the Turkish Faith he must on necessity light from his horse and bowing down his head worship him which if omitted he straight is knocked down with clubs Condition of Priests and Fryers under Tribute Priests and Fryers are held the worst of Men and are esteemed by Turks the very Sacriledge and Scandal of God and mankinde They have no benefit from Churches Upon some festival dayes a little bread is given them by poor Women and not on other dayes They get their livelihood by carrying Wood their custome being to cut down sticks in Woods lade them on Asses and with this Merchandize they cry about the Streets Wood to be sold The Tribute of Christians They pay a part of all encrease not onely of Corn and Cattle but even Mechanicks pay it out of all their profits And then they pay another subsidie for every single man through a Family each head a Crown If Parents refuse this Tribute their Children are taken from them and made Slaves Others are bound in Chains and beg from door to door to pay this Crown which if they cannot this way procure they are cast into perpetual Prison and when all Duties are performed it is yet lawful for the Turk to chuse the best amongst his Children whom he circumciseth and removes from all approach or sight of Parents and breeds him for his Wars ne'er to return to his Friends and so a childe easily forgets both Christ his Parents and his kindred that after if he chance in company with them he shall not know them No Man can express by Words the Lamentations Cries Tears and grievous sighs at this distraction of Children The Father to see his Son educated in the fear of Christ torn from him and made an Instrument of Satan to oppose Christ hurried from his Mother to live perpetually with strangers leaving whatsoever is dear in blood pleasing in society or loving in familiarity with an everlasting dereliction after listed in the ranks of those the Greeks call Fatherless and Motherless yet many of these although they have denied Christ carry about them the Gospel of St. John In the beginning was the word c. in Greek or the Arabick tongue as an Amulet or preservative in their Armpits and with great desire they expect the Christian Sword according to some Turkish prophecies should revenge and free them from those great afflictions and persecutions and that if Christians do it not whatever is the cause or with what minde soever hindred all very ill deserve of Christian Religion A Narration of a dispute with a Turk AFter I had travelled with much labour and many dangers the better parts of the world and seen many pleasant Towns and Countries as Socrates Plato and other Philosophers had diligently done at length I arrived at the famous City of Hungary Varadinum where by chance I met one Dervis Gsielebi a skilful man in the Laws of Mahomet who having dispatched his business with the Governour he very much desired conference with some Christian about Religion on either side This motion of his being published by an Interpreter and none for divers days appearing to encounter him in defence of the Christian cause though many Religious persons were in that Town struck mute and speechless at the courage of one Ethnick Infidel who seemed to me like Israelites that durst not adventure on one uncircumcised Goliah provoking them This I perceiving and grieving in my spirit that in such plenty of Clerks and learned men none was so well armed with Truth as durst though by Interpreters reprove the insolence of such an Heathen then and fearing that so wicked and detestable a silence in so good a Cause with so bad a Man would betray the Truth and render our Saviour Jesus Christ's Opinion with him more ignominious I my self though never called to Ecclesiastical Function undertook the charge of arguing this point of Piety with him and so a prefixed day was agreed on between us when multitudes of of people of each Religion came Spectators of the event The place was in a Monastery of Franciscans the day Whitson-Sunday day of Pentecost where he moved to me first this Question Where God had his being before the Heavens and Earth and therein all things else were created Which Question though it seemed to me not much pertinent to our purpose yet lest he should imagine us ignorant of our great God's universal presence I said He then was in his own being But when that seemed to him somewhat obscure and that he did not sufficiently understand it I then told him He was where he now is Which he understanding denied in the general and said Not so but that he then was in a bright cloud Which when he earnestly affirmed I quoted Genesis for they also read the books of Moses and the Prophets and said If God were in a Cloud before the Foundation of Heaven and Earth then that Cloud must be created before them both and upon further argument on this point being at last convicted he would dispute no further in it but gave me leave to propound some Question to him and for solemnity of that days sake I thought fit to say something thereof and finding these words In the name of God his mercies and the Spirit of them in their Alcoran in the Arabian Tongue and Character I desired him to read them The mystery of the holy Trinity Which when he had considered and wondred at he said Christian from whence had you this for in the beginning of all our actions we Musselmen use these three words and prefix them to every Chapter of our Alcoran when we sit down to eat when we go to prayers when we wash our hands or other parts of our bodies these words we first pronounce and these actions finished we sprinkle our heads with water and repeat these words In the Name of God his Mercies and the Spirit of them When thus he had confessed the Truth I desired to understand from him what he meant by the word Mercies who replied He understood it literally without other signification Then I applied my self to the mystical Interpretation and divided it according to Truth into three Persons the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost and shewed them written in the Arabick tongue And when he saw I had mentioned the Son of God he question'd How God could have a Son since according to their Law and Doctrine of Mahomet God had neither Wife nor Childe To whom I answered according to my