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commandment_n of_o our_o superior_n 45._o again_o you_o say_v that_o when_o scandal_n of_o weak_a brethren_n may_v be_v fear_v the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n be_v not_o obligatory_a in_o respect_n the_o thing_n command_v by_o our_o superior_n although_o it_o be_v in_o itself_o lawful_a yet_o it_o become_v unexpedient_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o scandal_n which_o may_v follow_v upon_o it_o now_o say_v you_o the_o ordinance_n of_o our_o superior_n be_v not_o obligatory_a when_o the_o thing_n command_v by_o they_o be_v unexpedient_a we_o on_o the_o contrary_a say_v that_o when_o our_o superior_n require_v of_o we_o obedience_n to_o their_o lawful_a commandment_n the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n be_v not_o obligatory_a in_o respect_n we_o ought_v not_o for_o scandal_n causeless_o take_v omit_v necessary_a duty_n which_o god_n in_o his_o law_n require_v of_o we_o in_o which_o number_n we_o most_o just_o do_v reckon_v the_o duty_n of_o obedience_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o our_o superior_n 46._o as_o for_o that_o which_o you_o say_v that_o when_o scandal_n may_v be_v take_v at_o the_o do_v of_o the_o thing_n command_v than_o the_o thing_n command_v become_v inexpedient_a and_o so_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v obey_v that_o you_o be_v not_o more_o deceive_v by_o this_o error_n we_o pray_v you_o mark_v that_o a_o thing_n comcomand_v by_o our_o superior_n in_o church_n or_o policy_n may_v be_v two_o way_n inexpedient_a to_o wit_n either_o in_o respect_n of_o some_o particular_a person_n who_o through_o weakness_n or_o malice_n do_v stumble_v at_o it_o or_o else_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o body_n in_o general_a because_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o order_n decency_n and_o edification_n if_o the_o thing_n command_v be_v inexpedient_a the_o first_o way_n only_o we_o may_v indeed_o in_o such_o a_o case_n for_o eschew_v the_o scandal_n of_o the_o weak_a forbear_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o thing_n command_v hîc_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la in_o some_o particular_a place_n and_o time_n provide_v alwise_o we_o do_v this_o without_o offence_n of_o our_o superior_n and_o without_o the_o scandal_n of_o other_o who_o by_o our_o forbearance_n may_v be_v make_v to_o vilipend_v the_o authority_n of_o law_n but_o we_o can_v not_o in_o such_o a_o case_n total_o and_o absolute_o deny_v obedience_n to_o a_o law_n as_o we_o have_v already_o prove_v neither_o be_v your_o argument_n bring_v to_o the_o contrary_a valide_fw-la in_o respect_n we_o aught_o more_o to_o look_v to_o the_o utility_n and_o benefit_n which_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n may_v receive_v by_o the_o thing_n command_v and_o by_o our_o obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n then_o to_o the_o harm_n which_o some_o particular_a person_n may_v receive_v thereby_o 47._o if_o the_o thing_n command_v be_v in_o our_o private_a judgement_n inexpedient_a the_o second_o way_n we_o ought_v not_o for_o that_o to_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n for_o when_o the_o inexpediency_n of_o a_o thing_n be_v questionable_a and_o probable_a argument_n may_v be_v bring_v pro_fw-la and_o contrae_fw-la concern_v the_o expediencie_n of_o it_o we_o have_v sufficient_a warrant_n to_o practice_v it_o if_o the_o church_n by_o her_o public_a decree_n have_v declare_v that_o she_o think_v it_o expedient_a your_o error_n who_o be_v of_o the_o contrary_a mind_n be_v very_o dangerous_a and_o may_v prove_v most_o pernicious_a to_o the_o church_n for_o it_o make_v the_o church_n obnoxious_a to_o perpetual_a schism_n and_o disconformity_n in_o matter_n of_o external_a policy_n in_o respect_n man_n ordinary_o be_v divyde_v in_o judgement_n concern_v the_o expediencie_n of_o these_o thing_n suppon_o then_o that_o in_o a_o synod_n consist_v of_o a_o hundred_o pastor_n threescore_o of_o they_o think_v this_o or_o that_o particular_a ceremony_n to_o be_v expedient_a for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o plurality_n of_o their_o voice_n make_v a_o act_n to_o be_v conclude_v for_o the_o establish_n of_o it_o shall_v the_o remnant_n fourâ—y_n who_o be_v of_o the_o contrary_a judgement_n deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o act_n of_o the_o synod_n because_o they_o be_v persuade_v that_o the_o thing_n conclude_v be_v inexpedient_a and_o shall_v they_o by_o do_v so_o rend_v the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n true_o if_o we_o be_v all_o of_o your_o mind_n we_o shall_v never_o have_v peace_n nor_o unity_n in_o this_o church_n you_o will_v say_v perhaps_o that_o this_o our_o argument_n be_v popish_a and_o lead_v man_n to_o acquiesce_v without_o trial_n or_o examination_n in_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n we_o answer_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n the_o truth_n whereof_o may_v be_v infallible_o conclude_v out_o of_o god_n word_n we_o ought_v not_o without_o trial_n to_o acquiesce_v into_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o this_o respect_n we_o dissent_v from_o the_o papist_n who_o ascrive_v too_o much_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n as_o if_o their_o decree_n be_v infallible_a but_o in_o matter_n of_o policy_n if_o we_o be_v certain_a that_o in_o their_o own_o nature_n they_o be_v indifferent_a and_o if_o the_o expediencie_n of_o they_o only_o be_v call_v in_o question_n see_v no_o certain_a conclusion_n concern_v their_o expediency_n can_v be_v infallible_o draw_v out_o of_o god_n word_n which_o have_v not_o determine_v whether_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a rite_n be_v agreeable_a to_o order_n decency_n and_o edification_n we_o ought_v to_o acquiesoe_n into_o the_o decree_n or_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n although_o it_o be_v not_o of_o infallible_a authority_n and_o that_o partly_o because_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o otherwise_o we_o can_v agree_v in_o one_o conclusion_n concern_v matter_n of_o this_o nature_n and_o partly_o because_o if_o we_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n in_o such_o matter_n our_o disobedience_n shall_v prove_v far_o more_o unexpedient_a and_o hurtful_a to_o the_o church_n than_o our_o obedience_n can_v be_v 48._o see_v then_o whatsoever_o you_o have_v hitherto_o say_v concern_v the_o question_n propon_v by_o we_o may_v be_v easy_o answer_v with_o a_o retortion_n of_o the_o argument_n upon_o yourselves_o that_o we_o may_v eschew_v all_o such_o logomachie_n we_o must_v take_v some_o other_o course_n and_o try_v which_o of_o these_o two_o precept_n be_v in_o itself_o of_o great_a moment_n and_o obligation_n for_o thence_o we_o may_v collect_v which_o of_o these_o two_o precept_n do_v obliedge_v we_o in_o the_o case_n foresay_a the_o other_o give_v place_n to_o it_o and_o not_o obliedge_v we_o at_o all_o in_o that_o case_n if_o you_o say_v that_o the_o precept_n which_o forbid_v we_o to_o do_v that_o whereby_o our_o weak_a brother_n may_v be_v scandalize_v be_v in_o itself_o more_o obligatory_a or_o do_v more_o strict_o tie_v we_o to_o the_o obedience_n of_o it_o as_o be_v of_o great_a moment_n you_o must_v bring_v a_o solid_a reason_n for_o you_o which_o we_o think_v you_o will_v hardly_o find_v we_o know_v you_o say_v that_o the_o precept_n concern_v scandal_n be_v more_o obligatory_a and_o of_o great_a moment_n because_o it_o concern_v the_o loss_n of_o the_o soul_n of_o a_o brother_n but_o this_o reason_n be_v not_o valide_fw-la first_o in_o respect_n our_o brother_n if_o he_o be_v scandalize_v by_o our_o obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n sin_v not_o by_o our_o default_n who_o do_v obey_v for_o our_o carriage_n in_o give_v obedience_n be_v such_o as_o may_v rather_o edify_v our_o brother_n second_o the_o precept_n which_o forbid_v disobedience_n concern_v the_o loss_n both_o of_o our_o own_o soul_n and_o of_o the_o soul_n of_o other_o who_o may_v be_v entyse_v to_o that_o sin_n by_o our_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o our_o superioure_n three_o if_o that_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n causeless_o take_v do_v so_o strict_o obliedge_v we_o when_o our_o superioure_n require_v obedience_n of_o we_o it_o may_v happen_v that_o a_o man_n shall_v be_v in_o a_o inextricable_a perplexity_n not_o know_v whether_o he_o shall_v obey_v or_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o commandment_n of_o his_o superioure_n in_o respect_n he_o may_v fear_v the_o scandal_n of_o the_o weak_a whether_o he_o obey_v or_o deny_v obedience_n for_o as_o we_o say_v before_o many_o be_v most_o ready_a to_o be_v scandalize_v by_o our_o deny_v obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n in_o thing_n lawful_a and_o otherwise_o expedient_a and_o that_o because_o we_o by_o nature_n be_v most_o unwilling_a to_o be_v curb_v and_o to_o have_v our_o liberty_n restrain_v by_o the_o law_n of_o our_o superioure_n for_o this_o cause_n as_o calvin_n judicious_o note_v instit._fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 8._o §_o 35._o god_n to_o allure_v we_o to_o the_o duty_n of_o obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n call_v all_o
superioure_n parent_n in_o the_o five_o commandment_n 49._o but_o we_o with_o good_a warrant_n do_v aver_v that_o the_o precept_n which_o forbid_v resist_v of_o the_o civil_a power_n and_o in_o general_a the_o deny_v of_o obedience_n to_o the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o our_o superior_n be_v of_o great_a obligation_n and_o moment_n and_o first_o we_o prove_v this_o by_o a_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o diverse_a degree_n of_o that_o care_n which_o we_o ought_v to_o have_v of_o the_o salvation_n of_o other_o for_o this_o care_n tie_v we_o to_o three_o thing_n to_o wit_n first_o to_o the_o do_v of_o that_o which_o may_v be_v edificative_a and_o may_v give_v a_o good_a example_n to_o all_o second_o to_o the_o eschew_v of_o that_o which_o may_v be_v scandalous_a or_o a_o evil_a example_n to_o all_o that_o be_v to_o the_o eschew_v of_o every_o thing_n which_o be_v either_o sin_n or_o have_v a_o manifest_a show_n of_o sin_n three_o to_o abstain_v even_o from_o that_o which_o although_o it_o be_v lawful_a yet_o it_o may_v be_v to_o some_o particular_a person_n a_o occasion_n of_o sin_n of_o these_o the_o first_o two_o be_v most_o to_o be_v regard_v in_o respect_n they_o concern_v the_o good_a of_o all_o which_o be_v to_o be_v prefer_v to_o the_o good_a of_o particular_a person_n hence_o we_o infer_v that_o the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n to_o superior_n which_o prescrive_v a_o act_n edificative_a to_o all_o because_o it_o be_v a_o exercise_n of_o a_o most_o eminent_a and_o necessary_a virtue_n be_v more_o obligatory_a and_o of_o great_a moment_n than_o the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n causeless_o take_v by_o some_o particular_a person_n 50._o second_o that_o the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n to_o our_o superior_n be_v of_o great_a moment_n &_o consequent_o more_o obligatory_a than_o the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n be_v evident_a by_o these_o reason_n which_o be_v bring_v by_o our_o divine_n to_o show_v wherefore_o the_o five_o commandment_n have_v the_o first_o place_n in_o the_o second_o table_n to_o wit_n first_o because_o it_o come_v near_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o religion_n or_o piety_n command_v in_o the_o first_o table_n whence_o as_o your_o own_o amesius_n note_v in_o his_o medulla_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 17._o §_o 13._o the_o honour_v and_o obey_v of_o parent_n be_v call_v by_o profane_a author_n religion_n and_o piety_n second_o this_o precept_n be_v the_o ground_n and_o sinewe_v say_v pareus_n in_o his_o catechetick_a explication_n of_o the_o five_o precept_n of_o the_o obedience_n which_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o second_o table_n two_o reason_n be_v common_o bring_v of_o this_o one_o be_v that_o all_o society_n oeconomick_a civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a do_v consist_v and_o be_v conserve_v by_o the_o submission_n or_o subjection_n of_o inferior_n to_o superior_n which_o be_v remove_v confusion_n necessary_o follow_v the_o other_o be_v that_o the_o obedience_n of_o this_o precept_n make_v way_n to_o the_o obedience_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n for_o our_o superior_n be_v set_v over_o we_o to_o the_o end_n that_o they_o may_v make_v we_o to_o do_v our_o duty_n to_o all_o other_o and_o consequent_o our_o obedience_n to_o they_o be_v a_o mean_v institute_v by_o god_n to_o procure_v our_o obedience_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o second_o table_n now_o will_v you_o know_v what_o follow_v out_o of_o this_o let_v your_o own_o amesius_n who_o word_n be_v more_o gracious_a unto_o you_o than_o we_o tell_v you_o it_o see_v say_v he_o cap._n citato_fw-la §_o 6._o humane_a society_n have_v the_o place_n of_o a_o foundation_n or_o ground_n in_o respect_n of_o other_o duty_n of_o justice_n and_o charity_n which_o be_v command_v in_o the_o second_o table_n of_o the_o law_n therefore_o these_o crime_n which_o direct_o procure_v the_o perturbation_n confusion_n and_o eversion_n of_o it_o be_v more_o grievous_a than_o the_o violation_n of_o the_o singular_a precept_n now_o we_o subsume_v the_o deny_v of_o obedience_n to_o superior_n enjoin_v such_o thing_n as_o in_o themselves_o be_v lawful_a and_o expedient_a direct_o procure_v the_o perturbation_n and_o confusion_n of_o humane_a society_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v a_o crime_n great_a than_o the_o violation_n of_o other_o particular_a precept_n of_o the_o second_o table_n for_o this_o cause_n dionysius_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n in_o his_o epistle_n ad_fw-la novatum_fw-la cite_v before_o declare_v how_o much_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v most_o frequent_o mar_v by_o the_o disobedience_n of_o inferior_n to_o their_o superior_n ought_v to_o be_v regard_v say_v that_o martyrdom_n suffer_v for_o esâ—hewing_v of_o schismâ—_n be_v more_o glorious_a than_o martyrdom_n suffer_v for_o â—schâ—wing_v idolatry_n 51._o three_o these_o office_n or_o duty_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o other_o by_o way_n of_o justice_n be_v more_o strict_o obligatory_a than_o these_o which_o we_o owe_v to_o they_o only_o by_o way_n of_o charity_n and_o consequent_o these_o precept_n which_o prescrive_v duty_n of_o justice_n be_v of_o great_a obligation_n than_o these_o which_o prescrive_v duty_n of_o charity_n only_o but_o we_o owe_v the_o duty_n of_o obedience_n to_o our_o superior_n by_o way_n of_o justice_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v more_o obligatory_a than_o the_o duty_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n causeless_o take_v which_o be_v a_o duty_n only_o of_o charity_n the_o major_n or_o first_o proposition_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v clear_a of_o itself_o as_o be_v a_o maxim_n not_o only_o receive_v by_o the_o scholastics_n and_o popish_a casuist_n but_o also_o by_o our_o divine_n see_v your_o own_o amesius_n in_o his_o medulla_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 16._o §_o 58._o 59_o 60._o 61._o 62._o 63._o where_o he_o not_o only_a proponeth_n this_o maxim_n but_o also_o prove_v it_o by_o two_o most_o evident_a example_n the_o minor_a be_v likewise_o clear_a for_o first_o the_o 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