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A50248 A defence of the answer and arguments of the synod met at Boston in the year 1662 concerning the subject of Baptism and consociation of churches against the reply made thereto, by the Reverend Mr. John Davenport, pastor of the church at New-Haven, in his treatise entituled Another essay for investigation of the truth &c. : together with an answer to the apologetical preface set before that essay, by some of the elders who were members of the Synod above-mentioned. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1664 (1664) Wing M1271; ESTC W19818 155,430 150

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their_o assent_n thereto_o ●hey_n be_v not_o scandalous_a in_o life_n they_o solemn_o own_o the_o covenant_n and_o therein_o give_v up_o themselves_o and_o their_o child_n to_o the_o lord_n and_o be_v this_o such_o disloyalty_n as_o to_o be_v a_o cut_n off_o the_o covenant_n and_o entail_n of_o it_o we_o think_v it_o be_v hard_a to_o prove_v such_o a_o thing_n and_o do_v fear_v that_o charity_n will_v not_o allow_v to_o affirm_v it_o nor_o that_o which_o be_v here_o say_v in_o this_o pag._n 41._o that_o nothing_o be_v give_v to_o they_o and_o they_o by_o the_o covenant_n wh●●h_o ●hey_n presume_v to_o usurp_v without_o warrant_n from_o god_n for_o 1._o by_o the_o covenant_n god_n give_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o god_n to_o his_o people_n and_o to_o their_o seed_n in_o their_o generation_n gen._n 17._o and_o shall_v we_o say_v this_o be_v nothing_o god_n be_v almighty_a and_o all-sufficient_a and_o be_v it_o nothing_o to_o have_v such_o a_o god_n to_o be_v a_o god_n to_o we_o and_o to_o our_o seed_n 2._o and_o when_o the_o person_n in_o question_n be_v such_o as_o be_v regular_o in_o covenant_n in_o their_o infan●●_n by_o mean_n of_o their_o parent_n covenant_v for_o they_o as_o the_o reverend_a author_n do_v acknowledge_v how_o can_v their_o own_n this_o covenant_n when_o they_o become_v adult_n be_v just_o count_v a_o presume_v to_o usurp_v the_o covenant_n without_o warrant_n from_o god_n we_o read_v of_o they_o that_o be_v blame_v and_o that_o just_o for_o forsake_v the_o covenant_n which_o god_n make_v with_o their_o father_n deut._n 29.25_o judg._n 2.20_o but_o that_o own_v this_o covenant_n shall_v be_v a_o forsake_v of_o it_o and_o a_o usurp_a of_o it_o without_o warrant_n from_o god_n and_o a_o presume_v we_o do_v not_o see_v how_o this_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o some_o indeed_o the_o lord_n say_v what_o have_v thou_o to_o do_v to_o take_v my_o covenant_n in_o thy_o mo●th_n psal_n 50_o 16._o but_o do_v the_o lord_n say_v this_o to_o such_o as_o be_v qualify_v as_o in_o this_o five_o proposition_n the_o contrary_n be_v most_o clear_a for_o these_o in_o this_o psal._n 50._o be_v express_o call_v wicked_a such_o as_o do_v hate_v to_o be_v instruct_v and_o reform_v be_v culpable_a for_o consent_v with_o thief_n partake_v with_o adulterer_n slander_v and_o all_o evil_a speak_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o the_o person_n in_o question_n be_v not_o culpable_a for_o any_o such_o thing_n be_v express_o say_v to_o be_v not_o scandalous_a in_o life_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_n furnish_v with_o many_o good_a and_o commendable_a qualification_n and_o be_v regular_o admit_v into_o the_o covenant_n in_o their_o minority_n and_o therefore_o be_v so_o unl●ke_v the_o person_n that_o be_v blame_v for_o take_v g●ds_n covenant_n into_o their_o mouth_n we_o see_v no_o ground_n to_o say_v they_o have_v 〈◊〉_d off_o the_o entail_n of_o the_o covenant_n by_o their_o disloyalty_n and_o that_o nothing_o be_v give_v to_o they_o and_o they_o by_o it_o but_o that_o they_o 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than_o there_o be_v nothing_o as_o a_o medium_fw-la between_o the_o church_n and_o they_o or_o any_o of_o they_o and_o so_o they_o be_v all_o immediate_a member_n as_o the_o synod_n say_v whether_o all_o have_v full_a communion_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o whether_o all_o be_v immediate_a member_n be_v another_o and_o the_o deny_v of_o the_o former_a be_v no_o infringe_n of_o the_o latter_a the_o synod_n have_v mention_v a_o objection_n that_o if_o child_n be_v complete_a and_o immediate_a member_n as_o their_o parent_n they_o shall_v then_o immediate_o have_v all_o church-priviledge_n as_o their_o parent_n have_v and_o make_v this_o answer_n that_o it_o follow_v not_o all_o privilege_n that_o belong_v to_o member_n as_o such_o do_v belong_v to_o the_o child_n as_o well_o as_o the_o parent_n but_o all_o privilege_n do_v not_o so_o a_o member_n as_o such_o or_o all_o member_n may_v not_o partake_v of_o all_o privilege_n but_o they_o be_v to_o make_v progress_n both_o in_o memberly_n duty_n and_o privilege_n as_o their_o age_n capacity_n and_o qualification_n do_v fit_a they_o for_o the_o same_o to_o this_o the_o reverend_a author_n auswer_v that_o their_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n be_v insufficient_a for_o the_o best_a member_n have_v need_v to_o make_v prongress_n in_o memberly_n duty_n and_o qualification_n yet_o all_o have_v that_o communion_n that_o suit_v their_o membership_n infant_n in_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n and_o adult_a person_n in_o the_o seal_n vote_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 41_o 42._o ans._n by_o this_o it_o seem_v the_o difference_n lie_v here_o that_o whereas_o some_o church-member_n have_v communion_n in_o all_o church-priviledge_n and_o other_o not_o in_o all_o but_o only_o in_o some_o the_o synod_n apprehend_v the_o reason_n of_o this_o difference_n to_o be_v because_o some_o be_v yet_o defective_a in_o qualification_n and_o fitness_n for_o such_o full_a communion_n though_o not_o want_v complete_a and_o immediate_a membership_n but_o the_o 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with_o frenzy_n etc._n etc._n such_o can_v enjoy_v all_o privilege_n in_o the_o family_n or_o civil_a state_n as_o other_o may_z and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o they_o be_v not_o fit_o qualify_v but_o who_o can_v say_v they_o be_v not_o complete_a and_o proper_a and_o immediate_a member_n of_o the_o family_n or_o state_n as_o well_o as_o other_o he_o that_o do_v injury_n to_o such_o a_o one_o do_v injury_n to_o one_o that_o be_v as_o true_o and_o proper_o a_o member_n of_o the_o society_n as_o those_o that_o be_v better_o qualify_v and_o such_o injury_n be_v punishable_a with_o death_n or_o otherwise_o as_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o offence_n do_v require_v as_o be_v injury_n to_o one_o that_o be_v true_o and_o proper_o a_o personal_a and_o immediate_a subject_n and_o member_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n though_o there_o may_v be_v many_o other_o subject_n better_o qualify_v in_o like_a sort_n in_o church-society_n some_o may_v enjoy_v more_o full_a communion_n than_o other_o and_o yet_o not_o as_o be_v more_o true_o partaker_n of_o proper_a personal_a and_o immediate_a membership_n but_o because_o they_o be_v better_o qualify_v thus_o of_o the_o second_o particular_a that_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v immediate_a member_n the_o three_o be_v that_o their_o membership_n still_o continue_v in_o adult_n age_n and_o cease_v not_o with_o their_o infancy_n 1._o because_o in_o scripture_n person_n be_v break_v off_o only_o for_o notorious_a sin_n or_o incorrigible_a in_o penitency_n and_o unbelief_n not_o for_o grow_v up_o to_o adult_v age_n rom._n 11.20_o the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o this_o reason_n do_v not_o prove_v that_o the_o membership_n of_o all_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n continue_v in_o adult_n age_n ans._n nor_o do_v the_o synod_n so_o say_v nor_o produce_v that_o reason_n and_o scripture_n for_o such_o
appear_v by_o deut._n 26.17_o 18._o ans._n if_o so_o than_o they_o do_v every_o three_o year_n enter_v into_o a_o new_a membership_n for_o the_o reverend_a author_n conceive_v that_o what_o be_v say_v to_o be_v do_v in_o deut._n 26_o 17_o 18._o be_v do_v every_o three_o year_n as_o before_o ●_o 31_o but_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o same_o person_n or_o people_n may_v many_o a_o time_n enter_v into_o covenant_n or_o renew_v their_o covenant_n with_o god_n and_o yet_o not_o thereby_o enter_v into_o so_o many_o new_a membership_n it_o seem_v by_o psal._n 50.5_o where_o it_o be_v say_v they_o have_v make_v a_o covenant_n with_o i_o by_o sacrifice_n that_o so_o oft_o as_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v so_o oft_o there_o be_v a_o covenant_n make_v between_o god_n and_o they_o and_o yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o at_o every_o time_n of_o sacrifice_v there_o be_v a_o enter_v into_o a_o new_a membership_n it_o may_v suffice_v to_o say_v as_o the_o synod_n do_v that_o at_o all_o such_o 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but_o do_v continue_v in_o adult_n age_n and_o ●ince_n it_o also_o follow_v that_o one_o special_a end_n of_o membership_n receive_v in_o infancy_n be_v to_o leave_v person_n under_o engagement_n to_o service_n and_o subjection_n to_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n when_o grow●_n up_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 25_o 26._o the_o answer_n to_o this_o be_v that_o the_o one_o of_o these_o text_n be_v typical_a figure_v the_o t●●e_n of_o grace_n whereby_o now_o christ_n have_v free_v we_o from_o the_o servitude_n of_o sin_n and_o satan_n etc._n etc._n the_o other_o text_n be_v a_o prophecy_n of_o the_o call_n of_o the_o elect_a nation_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n and_o therefore_o these_o do_v neither_o of_o they_o suit_n the_o thing_n in_o question_n ans._n but_o for_o the_o present_a nothing_o appear_v to_o the_o contrary_a but_o they_o may_v be_v suitable_a yet_o if_o the_o thing_n itself_o for_o which_o those_o text_n be_v 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