Repentance of a Sinner is sufficient to answer whatever could be justly demanded as a Satisfaction thereto which if you should you would in consequence say that Man is or may be in himself just that is equal with God or that the sin of Man was not a transgression of the Law that was given and a procurer of the Punishment that is threatned by that Eternal God that gave it But let me give you a Caution Take heed that you belye not these men Christ cryes If it be possible let this Cup pass from me If what be possible why that Sinners should be saved without His Blood Ought not Christ to have suffered Christ must needs have suffered not because of some certain Circumstances but because the Eternal Justice of God could not consent to the salvation of the Sinner without a Satisfaction for the Sin committed Of which more in the next if you shall think good to reply Now that my Reader may see that I have not abused you in this Reply to your sayings I will repeat your words at large and leave them upon you to answer it You say Actions may become dutyes or sins two wayes first as they are compliances with or transgressions of Divine positive Precepts These are the declarations of the arbitrary Will of God whereby he restraineth our liberty for great and wise reasons in things that are of an indifferent nature and absolutely considered are neither good nor evil and so makes things not good in themselves and are capable of becoming so onely by reason of certain Circumstances Duties and things not evil in themselves sins SUCH were all the Injunctions and Prohibitions of the Ceremonial Law and some few SUCH we have under the Gospel page 7. Then page 9. you tell â—s That the reason of the Positive Laws that is concerning things in themselves iâ—different in the Gospel are declared of which say you I know but three that are purely so viz. That of Coming to God by Christ the Institution of Baptisme and the Lords Supper Here now let the Reader note That the positive Precepts declarations of the arbitrary Will of God in things of an indifferent nature being such as absolutely considered are neither good nor evil some few SUCH say you we have under the Gospel namely that of coming to God by Christ c. I am the more punctual in this thing because you have confounded your weak Reader with a crooked Parenthesis in the midst of the Paragraph and also by deferring to spit your intended venome at Christ till again you had puzzled him with your Mathematicks and Metaphysicks c. putting in another Page betwixt the beginning and the end of your blasphemy Indeed in the seventh Chapter of your Book you make a great noise of the Effects and Consequences of the Death of Christ as that it was a Sacrifice for sin an expiatory and propitiatory Sacrifice page 83. Yet he that well shall weigh you and compare you with your self shall find that words and sense with you are two things and also that you have learned of your Brethren of old to dissemble with Words that thereby your own heart-errors and the Snake that lyeth in your bosome may yet there abide the more undiscovered For in the conclusion of that very Chapter even is and by a word or two you take away that glory that of right belongeth to the Death and Blood of Christ and lay it upon other things For you sâ—y The Scriptures that frequently affirm that the end of Christs Death waâ— the forgiveness of our sins and the reconciling of us to the Father we are not SO to understand as if the blessings were absolutely thereby procured for us page 91. any otherwise then upon the account of our effectual believing I answer By the Death of Christ was the Forgiveness of Sins effectually obtained for all that shall be saved and they even while yet Enemies by that were reconciled unto God So that as to forgiveness from God it is purely upon the account of grace in Christ We are justified by his Blood we are reconciled to God by the Death of his Son Rom. 5â— Yea peace is made by the Blood of his Cross And God for Christs sake hath forgiven us So then our effectual believing is not a procuring cause in the sight of God or a condition of ours foreseen by God and the motive that prevaileth with him to forgive us our manifold transgressions Believing being rather that which makes Application of that Forgiveness and that possesseth the Son with that Peace that already is made for us with God by the Blood of his Son Christ Jesus Being justified by Faith we have Peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. The peace and comfort of it cometh not to the Soul but by believing Yet the Work is finished Pardon procured Justice being satisfied already or before by the precious Blood of Christ. Observe I am commanded to believe but what should I believe or what should be the object of my Faith in the matter of my justification with God Why I am to believe is Christ I am to have Faith in his Blood But what is 〈◊〉 to believe in Christ and what to have faith in his Blood Verily To believe that while we were yet sinners Christ dyed for us That even then when we were Enemies we were Reconciled to God by the Death of his Son To believe that there is a Righteousness already for us compleated I had as good give you the Apostles Argument and Conclusion in his own language But God commended his love towards us in that while we were YET sinners Christ-dyed for us much more then being NOW justified by his Blood we shall be saved from wrath through him And note that this word now respects the same time with yet that went before For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the Death of his Son much more being Reconciled we shall be saved by his life or Intercession Believing then as to the business of my deliveranc from the Curse before God is an accepting of a trusting to or a receiving the benefit that Christ hath already obtained for me by which act of Faith I see my interest in that Peace that is made before with God by the Blood of his Cross For if Peace be made already by his Blood then is the Curse taken away from his sight if the Curse be taken away from his sight then there is no sin with the Curse of it to be charged from God by the Law for so long as sin is charged by the Law with the Curse thereto belonging the Curse and so the wrath of God remaineth But say you Christ dyed to put 〈◊〉 into a capacity of pardon 10 page 91. Answ. True But that is not all He dyed to put us into the Parsonal Possession of Pardon Yea to put us into a personal Possession of it and that
Of his fulness have we all Saints received and grace for grace Wherefore the holiness that hath its original from us from the purity of the humane nature which is the thing you aim at and that originally as you term it is the dictates thereof is the Religion of the Socinians Quakers c. and not the Religion of Jesus Christ. And now I will come to your indifferent things viz. those which you call positive Precepts things say you of an indifferent nature and absolutely considered are neither good nor evil but are capable of becoming so onely by reason of certain Circumstances Of these positive indifferent Precepts you say you know but three in the Gospel but three that are purely so viz. That of coming to God by Christ the Institutions of Baptisme and the Lords Supper This we have in Page 7. and 9. 1. These words as I hinted before are highly derogatory to the Lord the King of Glory and trample as much upon the Blood of the Son of God as words can likely do For first If coming to God by Christ be in it self but an Indifferent thing then as I also hinted before it is not of the substance of Christianity but a man may be truely a Christian without it may be saved and go to heaven without it This is in truth the Consequence of your words for things purely of an indifferent nature do not in themselves either make or marre the Righteousness that justifieth us from the Curse before God Wherefore by your Argument if a man remain ignorant of that positive Precept of coming to God by Christ he remaineth ignorant but of an Indifferent thing a thing that in its self is neither good nor evil and therefore not essentially material to his Faith or justifying Righteousness 2. An indifferent thing in it self is next to nothing neither good nor evil then but a thing betwixt them both Then is the Blood of the Lord Jesus in it self of no value at all nor Faith in him of it self any more then a thingâ— of â—ought their virtue and goodness onely dependeth uponâ— certain Circumstances that make them soo For the indifferency of the thing lyeth not simply in coming to God but in coming to him by Christ Coming otherwise to God even in this mans eyes being the All in All but in this coming in coming to him by Christ there lyeth the indifferency I marvel what injury the Lord Jesus hath done this man that he should have such indifferent thought of coming to God by him But hath he no better thoughts of his own good deeds which are by the Law Yes doubtless for those saith he are of an indispensible and eternal obligation which were first written in mens hearts and originally dictates of humane nature pag 8. Mark Not a dictate of humane nature or necessary conclusion on deduction from it is of an indifferent but of an indispensible not of a transient but of an eternal obligation It is onely going to God by Christ and two other things that he findeth in the Gospel that of themselves are of an indifferent nature But how indifferent Even as indifferent in it self as the blood of a silly Sheep or the ashes of an Heifer for these are his very words SVCH that is such ordinances as in themselves are of an indifferent nature were all the Injunctions and Prohibitions of the Ceremonial Law and some few SUCH we have under the Gospel page 7. Then in page 9. â—he tells you what these positive Precepts under the Gospel or things indifferent are THAT of going to God by Christ is one and the other two are Institutions of Baptisme and the Lords Supper SVCH therefore as were the Ceremonies of the Law such even SVCH saith he is that of going to God by Christ c. Wherefore he that shall lay no more stress upon the Lord Jesus to come to God by then this man doth would lay as much were the old Ceremonies in force upon a silly Sheep as upon the Christ of God For these are all alike positive Precepts such as were the Ceremonies of the Law things in themselves neither good nor evil but absolutely considered of an indifferent nature So that to come to God by Christ is reckoned of it self by him a thing of a very indifferent nature and therefore this man cannot do it but with a very indifferent heart his great and most substantial coming to God must needs be by some other way But why should this THIEF love thus to Clamber and seek to go to God by other Means such which he reckoneth of a more dispensible nature and eternal seeing Christ onely as indifferent as he is is the onely way to the Father I am the Way saith he the Truth and the Life No man cometh to the Father but by me If he be the onâ—ly Way then there is none other if he be thus the Truth then is all other the Lye and if he be here the Life then is all other the Death let him call them indispensible and eternal never so often So then how far off this mans Doctrine is of sinning against the Holy Ghost let him that is wise consider it For if coming to God by Christ be in it self but a thing indifferent and onely made a Duty upon the account of certain Circumstances then to come to God by Christ is a duty incumbent upon us onely by reason of certain Circumstances not that the thing in it self is good or that the nature of sin and the Justice of God layeth a necessâ—y on us so to But what be these certain Circumstances For it is because of these if you will believe him that God the Father yea the whole Trinity did consult in Eternity and consent that Christ should be the Way to Life Now I say it is partly because by Him was the greatest safety he being naturally the Justice Wisdome and Power of God and partly because it would we having sinned be utterly impossible we should come to God by other means and live He that will call these Circumstances that is things over and above besides the Substantials of the Gospel will but discover his unbelief and ignorance c. As for your saying That Calvin Peter Martyr Musculus Zanchy and others did not question but that God could have Pardoned sin without any other Satisfaction then the Repentance of the Sinner pagâ— 84 It matters nothing to me I have neither made my Creed out of them nor other then the Holy Scriptures of God But if Christ was from before all World 's ordained to be the Saviour then was he from all Eternity so appointed and prepared to be And if God be as you say infinitely page 136. and I will add Eternally just how can he Pardon without he be presented with that Satisfaction for Sin that to all points of the highest perfection doth answer the Demands of this Infinite and Eternal Justice unless you will say that the
to acquire that inward Righteousness and Holiness which the Christian Religion Aimeth at but the Particulars of these say you I shall not enumerate because as will appear from what will be said anon it is not needful to have a just table of them Answ. Deep Divinity First They are such as without the Knowledge and Belief of them it is not possible we should acquire your true Holiness and yet for all that it is not needful that we be told what they are or that we should have a just Table of them Secondly But if they be things necessary things without the Knowledge of which it is impossible we should be truly Holy then is it needful that we understand what they are Yea then is it needful that they be written and presented one by one unto us that our Knowledge of them being distinct and full we may the better be able to obtain or acquire your Glorious so pretended Holiness But I know your Primary Fundamentals they are your first Principles of Morrals not Faith in the Righteousness of Christ for that is comprehended in your possitive and in themselves indifferent things Your Morrals are the things in themselves absolutely necessary of an indispensible and Eternal Obligation Pag. 8 9. But Secondly you tell us of Points of Faith that are Secondarily Fundamental the disbelief of which cannot consist with true Holiness in those to whom the Gospel is sufficiently made known Answ. The Secondary Fundamentals also are all kept close and hid and not otherwise to be understood but by implication however the disbelief of these is not of so sad a consequence as is that of the former because say you They are not in their own Nature Holiness Pag. 235. Yea he insinuateth that the disbelief of them may stand with true Holiness in those to whom the Gospel is not sufficiently made known Of these Secondary Fundamentals therefore whatever is their number this is one even coming to God by Christ for as in Page 7 and 9. he calleth it a Possitive Precept a thing that in it self is neither good nor evil so here he speaks of such as are not in their own Nature Holy not such as that Holiness is not in some degree or other attainable without the belief of them That one of these Secondary Fundamentals is intended by Mr. Fowler that of coming to God by Christ I farther gather because â—e saith that in the number of these are all such Doctrines as are with indisputable clearness revealed to us that is by the Holy Scriptures of the New Testament Pag. 235. For therein is this Revealed to be a Fundamental but he saith not a Primary one because that in it self it is but indifferent and not in it's own Nature good Now the belief of these saith he though it is not in it self any more then in higher or lower degrees profitable Confusion Darkness Confusion yet it is absolutely necessary from an External cause That is with such abundant clearness as that nothing can cause men to refuse to admit them but that which argueth them to be stark naught Answ. 1. Then hence it seems that the reason why you admit these Secondary sort of Fundamentals is not from any Internal Power but an External Declaration onely 2. Nay and you do but ADMIT them neither and that too for some External cause not because of the worthiness of the Nature of the points themselves 3. And were it not but that you are loath to be counted stark naught in the eyes of Men so far as I can descern you would not at all make profession of them with pretence as unto God For say you We must take notice here that all such Points viz. these Fundamentals are not of equal necessity to be received by all Christians because that in regard of the Diversity of their Capacities Education and other means and advantages some of them may be most plainly perceived by some to be delivered in the Scriptures which cannot be so by others with the like ease Answ. From these words I take notice of four things 1. That by this Universal all Christians is Comprehended the Heathen and Pagan People that give heed to and mind to follow that light that Originally and Naturally stirreth them to Morral Duties These be they that want the Education and Vantages of other and are not in such a Capacity as they to whom these things are delivered by the Scriptures 2. That this People notwithstanding they want a Scripture Revelation of these Secondary Fundamentals yet have the more necessary the first sort of Fundamentals For the secondary sort say you are not in their own Nature such as that Holiness is not in some degree or other attainable without the belief of them 3. That therefore these Secondary sort of Fundamentals are onely necessary to be believed by them that have the indisputable the Scripture Revelation of them and that in truth the others may be saved without them 4. But yet even those that are made capable by education and other advantages to obtain the belief of them ought notwithstanding not to have the same respect for them as for those of the first sort of Fundamentals because they are not in their own Nature such But will this man know that Christ is not onely a Fundamental but the very foundation of all other Fundamental truths revealed both in the Old Testament and the New and that his pure Humane Nature with the Dictates of it with his feigned Adamitish Holiness is no Fundamental at all I mean no Fundamental of Faith no Gospel Fundamental 1 Co. 3. 14. Eph. 2. 19 20. Yea will he know that from Heaven there is none other Name given then the Name of Jesus Christ whereby we must be saved none other Name given under the whole Heavens Act. 4. 12. Oh the Witchcrafts by which some Mens Spirits are Intoxicated and the strength of delusion by which some are infatuate and turned aside from the simplicity that is in Jesus Christ But I proceed Your great Question or rather Urim and Thummim by which you would have all men make Judgement of their saveable or damnable state Pag. 236. is according to your description of things most Devilish and Destructive For to obey God and Christ in all things with you is to do it from Principles purely Humane in the Faith of this that Christ hath designed to possess us again with that Holiness we had lost Again to obey God and Christ with you is so to obey all their Laws as respecting the first Principles of Morrals and our obedience to them far more indispensible then that of coming to God by Christ. Farther he that obeys them in all things with your directions must not look upon Faith in the Blood of Christ and Justification by his Righteousness as the main and first but the second part of our duty other Commands or Precepts more naturally Holy and Good first being imbraced and lived in the practise of
more involved in Error concerning it then your self being truly what you charge upon others 1. Grosely ignorant 2. Too highly Opinionate 3. Proud in affection 4. Lignorish 5. A Self-Lover 6. And for your Blasphemy under the just Judgement of God If our Gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost In whom the God of this World hath blinded the minds of them that believe not least the light of the Glorious Gospel of Christ who is the Image of God should shine unto them 2 Cor. 4. 3 4. I am come now to your last Chapter Pag. 281. which tells us wherein the essence and life of Christianity Censisteth viz. In a good state and habit of mind in a holy frame and temper of Soul Answ. 1. It consisteth in a Life of Faith when I live in the belief of this that Christ loved me and gave himself for me The Life that I now live in the Flesh saith Paul it is by the Faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me 2. And besides a good state and habit of mind or an Holy frame and temper of Soul in your notion of them which respecteth purely obedience to Morrals from Natural Impulses or Dictates of our Humanity they are rather Heathenish then Christian and being alone end in Death rather then Life As many as are of the Works of the Law are under the Curse he saith not they that Sin against it but they that are OF the Works of it such as do Justice Righteousness Charity Goodness Mercy Patience and all kind of Morral Duties from Principles Humane Natural or as Men they are under the Curse because they have sinned first and also are in firm and weak in their pursuit after the perfections they desire These follow after Righteousness but that flyes from them wherefore they do not obtain it because they seek it not by Faith in Christ but as it were by the Works the Righteous Good and Holy Works of the Law But you add It is such a habit of mind such a frame and temper of Soul as esteemeth God as the chiefest good and preferreth him and his Son Jesus Christ before all the World and that prizeth above all things an interest in the Divine Perfections c. Answ. 1. God must needs be esteemed the chiefest good by all that have but and are ruled by the light of Nature because they see him by his Works to be Almighty Merciful and Eternal but this may be where the Knowledge of the Man the Mediator is not therefore this in this and in your sence cannot be of the Essence of Christianity for that it is common to all the World That estimation of God which is common to Natural Men cannot be of the Essence of Christianity because they want that knowledge of him that comes by Jesus Christ and so are not capable to esteem of him under a Christian consideration But you say it is that good habit and temper of mind that preferreth God and his Son Jesus Christ before all the World Answ. He that esteemeth God above all must needs at least in his Judgement so prefer him but whereas you add and his Son Jesus Christ you put in them Words but as a Cloak For your self have not preferred his Son Jesus Christ no not before a Morral Law no not before your obedience to it although but by Humane Principles Yea you have accounted the Command of God by which we are injoyned by him to come to God a thing in it self but like Levitical Ceremonies or as Baptism and the Lord's Supper a thing in itâ—self indifferent and absolutely considered neither good nor evil Pag. 7 8 9. You add It is such a tempâ—r as prizeth above all things an interest in the Divine Perfections such as Justice and Righteousness Vniversal Charity Goodness Mercy Patience and all kind of Purity Answ. Seeing by these expressions you onely intend Morral Vertues and those that are inherent in you and originally operations of Humanity it is evident that you have but Impiously and Idolatrously Attributed to your own goodness so high and blessed a Title For whatsoever is in your Nature and Originally the Dictates thereof and whatsoever proficiency you make therein by Humane Principles and helps of Natural Indowments these things are but of your self your own Justice your own Righteousness your own Charity Goodness Mercy Patience Kindness c. Now to call these the Divine Perfections when they are onely your own Humane Vertues bespeaks you I say Fond Impious and Idolatrous and shews you in the midst of all your prentended design to Glorifie God such an one who have set up your own goodness with him yea and given it the Title of his blessed Grace and Favour That Scripture you mention Rom. 14. 17. Although by the Word Righteousness there is intended obedience to the Morral Law yet to it by persons already Justified by Christ's Righteousness hence they are said to do it in the Joy and Peacâ— of the Holy Ghost or by the Joy and Peace which they had by Faith in Christ's Righteousness as Revealed to them by the Spirit of God Hence again they are said in IT to serve Christ or to receive the Law at his hand which he giveth to them to walk after having first justified them from the Curse thereof by his Blood 2. The Law was given twice on Sinai the last time with a Proclamation of Mercy going before and he that receiveth it thus receiveth it after a Gospel manner For they as Justified persons are dead to the Law as a Covenant of Works by the Body of Christ that they might live to another even to him that is raised from the Dead But you by this Scripture intend not this Doctrine for you make Justification by Christ come after not before obedience to the Law Yea you make obedience thereto the Essential and coming to God by Christ but a thing of a more remote Nature from true and substantial Gospel-Righteousness In Page 283. you speak again of the old Principle and thus you comment A Principle of Holiness that respecteth Duty as with respect to the Nature of the Command so not with respect to the Duty as occasioned by certain External Inducements and Motives but from a good temper and disposition of Soul Answ. This I say still respecting your old Principle of Humanity and the Purity of your Nature the most amounts but to this Your Principle is confined to a liberty of Will and Affections with respect to doing of the Law of Work which many have professed to have and do before you and yet have come short of the Glory of God For as I told you before I tell you now again that the Gospel-Principles are the Holy Ghost and Faith which help that Soul in whom they dwell to count believing in Jesus Christ the great Essential part of our Christianity and our reckoning our selves pardoned for the sake of him And