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A69901 England's independency upon the papal power historically and judicially stated by Sr. John Davis ... and by Sr. Edward Coke ... in two reports, selected from their greater volumes ; with a preface written by Sir John Pettus, Knight. Davies, John, Sir, 1569-1626.; Coke, Edward, Sir, 1552-1634.; Pettus, John, Sir, 1613-1690. 1674 (1674) Wing D397; ESTC R21289 68,482 102

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proved fully all the parts of the Indictment First it was proved by Lalor's own Confession upon severall Examinations taken before the Lord Deputie and Lord Chancellor and others that he had accepted the Office and title of Vicar-general in the Dioceses of Dublin Kildare and Fernes by virtue of the Pope's Bull. Secondly it appeared by the copies of sundry Letters found among his papers at his apprehension that he styled himself the Pope's Vicar in this form Robertus Dublinien Kildaren Fernen Dioeces Vicarius Apostolicus Thirdly there were produced the copies of divers Acts and Instruments written for the most part with Lalor's own hand some of Institutions of Popish Priests to Benefices others of Dispensations with Marriage within the degrees others of Divorces others of Dispensations for non-payment of Tithes Whereby it was manifestly proved that he did execute the Pope's Bull in usurping and exercising Episcopall jurisdiction as Vicar-generall of the See Apostolick within the Dioceses before named To this evidence he made a threefold answer First That he was no suiter for the office of Vicar-generall but it was imposed on him and he accepted virtute obedientiae onely to obey his Superiours Next That he did exercise the office of Vicar-generall in foro conscientiae tantum and not in foro judicii And lastly that those copies of Institutions Dispensations and Divorces were many of them written with his man's hand as precedents of such Acts and Instruments without his privity or direction Hereupon Sir James Ley Chief Justice told him that he could not well say that he accepted that unlawfull office virtute obedientiae for there was no vertue in that obedience That he ow'd an obedience to the Law and to the King who is the true Superiour and Sovereign over all his subjects and hath no Peer within his dominions and that the Superiours whom he meant and intended were but Usurpers upon the King's Jurisdiction and therefore this excuse did aggravate his contempt in that it appeared he had vowed obedience to those who were apparent enemies to the King and his Crown And though it were manifest that he exercised jurisdiction in foro judicii for every Institution is a Judgement and so is every Sentence of divorce yet were his offence nothing diminished if he had executed his office of Vicar-generall in foro conscientiae tantum for the court of man's conscience is the highest tribunall and wherein the power of the Keys is exercised in the highest degree Hereunto the Atturney generall took occasion to adde thus much That Lalor had committed these high offences not onely against the Law but against his own Conscience and that he was already condemned in foro conscientiae For that he upon his second Examination had voluntarily acknowledged himself not to be a lawfull Vicar-generall and that he thought in his conscience he could not lawfully take upon him the said office He hath also acknowledged our Sovereign Lord K. James to be his lawfull Chief and Supreme Governour in all causes as well Ecclesiasticall as Civile and that he is in conscience bound to obey him in all the said causes c. as it is contained in his Acknowledgement or Confession before set down Which being shewed forth by the Atturney generall the Court caused it to be publickly read and thereupon demanded of Lalor if that were not his free and voluntary confession signed with his own hand and confirmed by his oath before the Lord Deputie and Councill He was not a little abashed at the publishing of this Acknowledgement and Confession in the hearing of so many principal Gentlemen to whom he had preached a contrary doctrine therefore said he the shewing forth of this Confession is altogether impertinent and besides the matter Howsoever he could not deny but that he made it and signed it and swore it as it was testified by the Lord Deputie and the rest Then was it demanded of him whether since the making of this Confession he had not protest●●o divers of his friends that he had not acknowledged the King's Supremacie in Ecclesiasticall causes His answer was That indeed he had said to some of his friends who visited him in the Castle of Dublin that he had not confessed or acknowledged that the King was his Supreme Governour in Spirituall causes for that the truth is in the Confession there is no mention made of Spirituall causes but of Ecclesiasticall This is a subtile evasion indeed said the Atturney generall I pray you what difference do you make between Ecclesiasticall causes and Spirituall causes This question said Lalor is sudden and unexpected at this time and therefore you shall doe well to take another day to dispute this point Nay said the Atturney generall we can never speak of it in a better time or fitter place and therefore though you that bear so reverend a title and hold the reputation of so great a Clerk require a farther time yet shall you hear that we Lay-men that serve his Majestie and by the dutie of our places are to maintain the Jurisdiction of the Crown are never so unprovided but that we can say somewhat touching the nature and difference of these Causes First then let us see when this distinction of Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall causes from Civile and Temporall causes did first begin in point of jurisdiction Assuredly for the space of three hundred years after Christ this distinction was not known or heard of in the Christian world For the causes of Testaments of Matrimony of Bastardy and Adultery and the rest which are called Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall c●uses were meerly Civil and determined by the rules of the Civil Law and subject onely to the jurisdiction of the Civil Magistrate as all Civilians will testifie with me But after that the Emperours had received the Christian Faith out of a zeal and desire they had to grace and honour the learned and godly Bishops of that time they were pleased to single out certain speciall Causes wherein they granted jurisdiction unto the Bishops namely in causes of Tithes because they were paid to men of the Church in causes of Matrimony because Marriages were for the most part solemnized in the Church in causes Testamentary because Testaments were many times made in extremis when Church-men were present giving spiritual comfort to the Testator and therefore they were thought the fittest persons to take the probates of such Testaments Howbeit these Bishops did not proceed in these causes according to the Canons and Decrees of the Church for the Canon Law was not then hatched or dream'd of but according to the rules of the Imperiall Law as the Civil Magistrate did proceed in other causes neither did the Emperours in giving this Jurisdiction unto them give away their own Supreme and absolute power to correct and punish these Judges as well as others if they performed not their severall duties This then is most certain that the primitive Jurisdiction in all these causes was
Subjects to live that perswaded his Subjects that he was no lawfull King and practised with them within the heart of this Realm to withdraw them from their Allegeance and Loyalty to their Sovereign the same being crimen laesae Majestatis by the ancient Laws of this Realm BY this and by all the Records of the Indictments it appeareth that these Jesuites and Priests are not condemned and executed for their Priesthood and Profession but for their treasonable and damnable Perswasions and Practices against the Crowns and Dignities of Monarchs and absolute Princes who hold their Kingdoms and Dominions by lawful Succession and by inherent Birth-right and descent of inheritance according to the fundamental Laws of this Realm immediately of Almighty God and are not Tenants of their Kingdomes as they would have it at the will and pleasure of any forrein Potentate whatsoever Now albeit the proceedings and process in the Ecclesiastical Courts be in the name of the Bishops c. it followeth not therefore that either the Court is not the King 's or the Law whereby they proceed is not the King's Law For taking one example for many every Leet or View of Frank-pledge holden by a Subject is kept in the Lord's name and yet it is the King's Court and all the proceedings therein are directed by the King's Laws and many subjects in England have and hold Courts of Record and other Courts and yet all their proceedings be according to the King's Laws and the Customes of the Realm Observe good Reader seeing that the determination of Heresies Schisms and Errours in Religion Ordering Examination Admission Institution and Deprivation of men of the Church which do concern God's true Religion and Service of right of Matrimony Divorces and general Bastardy whereupon depend the strength of mens Discents and Inheritances of probate of Testaments and letters of Administration without which no debt or dutie due to any dead man can be recovered by the Common Law Mortuaries Pensions Procurations Reparations of Churches Simony Incest Adultery Fornication and Incontinency and some others doth not belong to the Common Law how necessary it was for administration of Justice that his Majestie 's Progenitors Kings of this Realm did by publick authority authorize Ecclesiasticall Courts under them to determine those great and important Causes Ecclesiastical exempted from the Jurisdiction of the Common Law by the King's Laws Ecclesiastical Which was done originally for two causes 1. That Justice should be administred under the Kings of this Realm within their own Kingdome to all their Subjects and in all Causes 2. That the Kings of England should be furnished upon all occasions either forrein or domestical with learned Professors as well of the Ecclesiasticall as Temporall Laws THus hath it appeared as well by the ancient Common Laws of this Realm by the Resolutions and Judgements of the Judges and Sages of the Laws of England in all succession of ages as by Authority of many Acts of Parliament ancient and of latter times That the Kingdome of England is an absolute Monarchy and that the King is the onely Supreme Governour as well over Ecclesiasticall persons and in Ecclesiastical causes as Temporal within this Realm to the due observation of which Laws both the King and the Subject are sworn I have herein cited the very words and texts of the Laws Resolutions Judgements and Acts of Parliament all publick and in print without any inference argument or amplification and have particularly quoted the books years leaves chapters and such like certain references as every man may at his pleasure see and reade the Authorities herein cited This Case is reported in the English and Latine tongues as some other Writers of the Law have done to the end that my dear Countrymen may be acquainted with the Laws of this Realm their own Birth-right and inheritance and with such evidences as of right belong to the same assuring my self that no wise or true-hearted English-man that hath been perswaded before he was instructed will refuse to be instructed in the truth which he may see with his own eyes lest he should be disswaded from errour wherewith blindfold he hath been deceived For miserable is his case and worthy of pity that hath been perswaded before he was instructed and now will refuse to be instructed because he will not be perswaded FINIS Of what quality and credit Robert Lalor was His apprehension and first examination His first inditement and conviction His second examination His confession or acknowledgement The Inditement of Lalor upon the stat of 16 Ric. 2. The true cause of making the Statute of 16 R. 2. and other Statutes against Provisors The Statute of Praemunire made at the prayer of the Commons The effect of the Statute of 16 R. 2. c. 5. The effect of the Statute of 38 Edw. 3. cap. 1. The Statute of 27 Ed. 3. cap. 1. The Statute of 25 Edw. 3. reciting the Statute of 25 Ed. 1. These Laws made by such as did professe the Romish Religion Laws against Provisors made in Ireland When the Pope began first to usurp upon the liberties of the Cr●wn of England A comparison of the spiritual Monarchy of the Church with the temporal Monarchies of the world The Pope had no jurisdiction in England in the time of the Britans The first usurpation of the Pope upon the Crown began in the time of King William the Conquerour By sending Legates into England In the time of William Rufus the Pope attempted to draw Appeals to Rome but prevailed not In the time of K. Henry the first the Pope usurpeth the donation of Bishoprikks c. Histor Jornalensis M S. in Archiv Rob. Cotton Eq. Aur. In the time of King Stephen the Pope gained Appeals to the Court of Rome In the time of K. Henry 2. the Pope claimed exemption of Clerks from the Secular power A brief of Th. Becket's troubles or rather treasons The Constitutions of Claringdon Four points of jurisdiction usurped upon the crown of England by the Pope before the reign of K. John The cause of the quarrell between K. John and the Pope When Canonical election began first in England King John's round and Kingly Letter to the Pope The Pope curseth the King and interdicteth the Realm King Edw. 1. opp●seth the Pope's Vsurpation E. 2. suffereth the Pope to usurp again E. 3. resisteth the Vsurpation of the Pope King Rich. 2. The Evidence against Lalor Lalor's Confession publickly read When the distinction of Ecclesiasticall Spirituall causes from Civil and Temporal causes began in the world Caudrey's Case The objections of the Counsell of the Plaintif 1. 2. 3. 4. The resolutions of the Court to the 1. and 2. To the 3. To the 4. What causes belong to the Ecclesiasticall Court. see Circumspectè agatis 13 E. 1. W. 2. 13 E. 1. cap. 5. versus finem Artic. cleri 9 E. 2. 15 E. 3. c. 6.31 E. 3. cap. 11.2 H. 5. c. 7.1 H. 7. cap. 4.23 H. 8. cap.