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the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o our_o superioure_n for_o they_o will_v take_v occasion_n by_o our_o carriage_n to_o do_v that_o unto_o which_o by_o nature_n they_o be_v most_o incline_v to_o wit_n to_o vilipende_fw-la law_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o their_o superioure_n shall_v we_o then_o for_o the_o eschew_v of_o a_o scandal_n causeleslie_o take_v not_o only_o refuse_v to_o our_o superioure_n the_o duty_n of_o obedience_n which_o they_o crave_v of_o we_o but_o also_o incur_v a_o other_o scandal_n and_o that_o a_o far_o more_o perilous_a one_o thirdlie_o we_o have_v already_o show_v that_o the_o negative_a part_n of_o the_o five_o commandment_n be_v not_o always_o to_o be_v understand_v with_o the_o exception_n of_o the_o case_n of_o scandal_n causeleslie_o take_v for_o wyve_n child_n and_o servante_n must_v not_o deny_v obedience_n and_o familiar_a conversation_n to_o their_o husband_n parent_n and_o master_n which_o be_v excommunicate_v for_o fear_v that_o other_o through_o weakness_n or_o malice_n be_v scandalize_v there-at_a four_o as_o you_o say_v that_o the_o precept_n concern_v obedience_n to_o superioure_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v with_o the_o exception_n of_o the_o case_n of_o scandal_n causeleslie_o take_v so_o we_o with_o far_o better_a reason_n say_v that_o the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n causeleslie_o take_v be_v to_o be_v understand_v with_o the_o exception_n of_o the_o case_n of_o obedience_n peremptorlie_o require_v by_o our_o lawful_a superioure_n as_o we_o shall_v show_v in_o our_o next_o argument_n whether_o the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n to_o superior_n or_o the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n be_v more_o obligatorie_n 43._o last_o of_o all_o when_o a_o man_n be_v peremptorlie_o urge_v by_o his_o superioure_n to_o obey_v their_o lawful_a commandment_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n fear_v that_o if_o he_o do_v the_o thing_n command_v by_o they_o some_z through_o weakness_n shall_v be_v scandalize_v by_o his_o carriage_n in_o this_o case_n he_o be_v not_o only_o in_o a_o difficulty_n or_o straight_o betwixt_o the_o commandment_n of_o man_n and_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n who_o forbid_v we_o to_o do_v that_o where-by_a our_o weak_a brother_n may_v be_v offend_v but_o also_o he_o seem_v to_o be_v in_o a_o straight_o betwixt_o two_o of_o god_n commandment_n to_o wit_n betwixt_o that_o precept_n which_o forbid_v the_o do_v of_o any_o thing_n where-by_a the_o weak_a may_v be_v scandalize_v and_o that_o other_o precept_n which_o forbid_v the_o resist_n of_o authority_n and_o tell_v we_o that_o who-so-eve_a resist_v the_o power_n resist_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god._n now_o see_v god_n precept_n be_v not_o repugnant_a one_o to_o another_o neither_o do_v god_n by_o his_o law_n lie_v upon_o we_o a_o necessity_n of_o sin_v out_o of_o all_o question_n in_o this_o case_n we_o be_v fir_v from_o the_o obligation_n of_o one_o of_o these_o precept_n and_o that_o which_o do_v not_o so_o strict_o tie_v we_o or_o be_v less_o obligatorie_n must_v needs_o give_v place_n to_o the_o other_o which_o be_v of_o great_a obligation_n you_o common_o say_v that_o the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n to_o humane_a authority_n must_v give_v place_n to_o the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n although_o it_o be_v causeleslie_o take_v and_o to_o confirm_v your_o assertion_n you_o say_v that_o the_o ordinance_n of_o a_o superior_a can_v not_o make_v that_o fact_n to_o be_v free_a of_o scandal_n which_o otherway_n will_v be_v scandalous_a and_o that_o a_o fact_n upon_o which_o any_o scandal_n follow_v ought_v not_o to_o be_v do_v for_o the_o commandment_n of_o man._n whence_o you_o collect_v that_o in_o such_o a_o case_n we_o ought_v not_o to_o regard_v or_o obey_v the_o commandment_n of_o our_o superioure_n 44._o this_o your_o reason_n can_v not_o be_v good_a because_o we_o can_v easy_o retort_v the_o argument_n and_o say_v to_o you_o that_o in_o such_o a_o case_n we_o ought_v not_o to_o regard_v the_o scandal_n causeleslie_o take_v by_o our_o weak_a brethren_n so_o far_o as_o to_o deny_v simple_o and_o absolute_o obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n for_o it_o and_o that_o because_o the_o sin_n of_o disobedience_n ought_v to_o be_v eschew_v and_o no_o scandal_n of_o weak_a brethren_n causeleslie_o take_v can_v make_v that_o fact_n not_o to_o be_v the_o sin_n of_o disobedience_n which_o otherway_n that_o be_v extra_fw-la casum_fw-la scandali_fw-la will_v be_v the_o sin_n of_o disobedience_n for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o lay_v aside_o the_o case_n of_o scandal_n to_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o our_o superioure_n enjoin_v and_o peremptorlie_o requyre_v of_o we_o thing_n lawful_a and_o expedient_a be_v real_o the_o sin_n of_o disobedience_n you_o will_v say_v that_o the_o scandal_n of_o weak_a brethren_n may_v make_v that_o fact_n or_o omission_n not_o to_o be_v disobedience_n which_o otherways_o will_v be_v disobedience_n because_o we_o ought_v not_o for_o the_o commandment_n of_o man_n do_v that_o where-by_a our_o weak_a brother_n may_v be_v offend_v and_o so_o the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n bind_v not_o when_o offence_n of_o a_o weak_a brother_n may_v be_v fear_v on_o the_o contrary_n we_o say_v that_o the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o superioure_n may_v make_v that_o scandal_n of_o our_o weak_a brethren_n not_o to_o be_v impute_v unto_o we_o which_o otherway_n will_v be_v impute_v unto_o we_o as_o a_o matter_n of_o our_o guiltiness_n because_o we_o ought_v not_o for_o fear_v of_o scandal_n causeleslie_o take_v deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o our_o superioure_n 45._o again_o you_o say_v that_o when_o scandal_n of_o weak_a brethren_n may_v be_v fear_v the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n be_v not_o obligatorie_n in_o respect_n the_o thing_n command_v by_o our_o superioure_n although_o it_o be_v in_o itself_o lawful_a yet_o it_o become_v unexpedient_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o scandal_n which_o may_v follow_v upon_o it_o now_o say_v you_o the_o ordinance_n of_o our_o superioure_n be_v not_o obligatorie_n when_o the_o thing_n command_v by_o they_o be_v unexpedient_a we_o on_o the_o contrary_a say_v that_o when_o our_o superioure_n require_v of_o we_o obedience_n to_o their_o lawful_a commandment_n the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n be_v not_o obligatorie_n in_o respect_n we_o ought_v not_o for_o scandal_n causeleslie_o take_v omit_v necessary_a duty_n which_o god_n in_o his_o law_n require_v of_o we_o in_o which_o number_n we_o most_o just_o do_v reckon_v the_o dvetie_n of_o obedience_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o our_o superioure_n 46._o as_o for_o that_o which_o you_o say_v that_o when_o scandal_n may_v be_v take_v at_o the_o do_v of_o the_o thing_n command_v than_o the_o thing_n command_v become_v inexpedient_a and_o so_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v obey_v that_o you_o be_v
all_o which_o be_v to_o be_v prefer_v to_o the_o good_a of_o particular_a person_n hence_o we_o infer_v that_o the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n to_o superioure_n which_o prescrybe_v a_o act_n aedificative_a to_o all_o because_o it_o be_v a_o exercise_n of_o a_o most_o eminent_a and_o necessary_a virtue_n be_v more_o obligatorie_n and_o of_o great_a moment_n than_o the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n causeleslie_o take_v by_o some_o particular_a person_n 50._o secondlie_o that_o the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n be_v of_o great_a moment_n and_o consequent_o more_o obligatorie_n than_o the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n be_v evident_a by_o these_o reason_n which_o be_v bring_v by_o our_o divyne_n to_o show_v wherefore_a the_o five_o commandment_n have_v the_o first_o place_n in_o the_o second_o table_n to_o wit_n first_o because_o it_o come_v near_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o religion_n or_o piety_n command_v in_o the_o first_o table_n whence_o as_o your_o own_o amesius_n note_v in_o his_o medulla_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 17._o §_o 13._o the_o honour_v and_o obey_v of_o parent_n be_v call_v by_o profane_a author_n religion_n and_o piety_n secondlie_o this_o precept_n be_v the_o ground_n and_o sinewe_v say_v pareus_n in_o his_o catecheticke_a explication_n of_o the_o five_o precept_n of_o the_o obedience_n which_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o second_o table_n two_o reason_n be_v common_o bring_v of_o this_o one_o be_v that_o all_o society_n oeconomic_a civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a do_v consist_v and_o be_v conserve_v by_o the_o submission_n or_o subjection_n of_o inferioure_n to_o superioure_n which_o be_v remove_v confusion_n necessary_o follow_v the_o other_o be_v that_o the_o obedience_n of_o this_o precept_n make_v way_n to_o the_o obedience_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n for_o our_o superioure_n be_v set_v over_o we_o to_o the_o end_n that_o they_o may_v make_v we_o to_o do_v our_o duty_n to_o all_o other_o and_o consequent_o our_o obedience_n to_o they_o be_v a_o mean_v institute_v by_o god_n to_o procure_v our_o obedience_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o second_o table_n now_o will_v you_o know_v what_o follow_v out_o of_o this_o let_v your_o own_o amesius_n who_o word_n be_v more_o gracious_a unto_o you_o than_o we_o tell_v you_o it_o see_v say_v he_o cap._n citato_fw-la §_o 6_o humane_a society_n have_v the_o place_n of_o a_o foundation_n or_o ground_n in_o respect_n of_o other_o duty_n of_o justice_n and_o charity_n which_o be_v command_v in_o the_o second_o table_n of_o the_o law_n therefore_o these_o crime_n which_o direct_o procure_v the_o perturbation_n confusion_n and_o eversion_n of_o it_o be_v more_o grievous_a than_o the_o violation_n of_o the_o singular_a precept_n now_o we_o subsume_v the_o deny_v of_o obedience_n to_o superioure_n enjoin_v such_o thing_n as_o in_o themselves_o be_v lawful_a and_o exdient_a direct_o procure_v the_o perturbation_n and_o confusion_n of_o humane_a society_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v a_o crime_n great_a than_o the_o violation_n of_o other_o particular_a precept_n of_o the_o second_o table_n for_o this_o cause_n dionysius_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n in_o his_o epistle_n ad_fw-la novatum_fw-la cite_v before_o declare_v how_o much_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v most_o frequent_o mar_v by_o the_o disobedience_n of_o inferioure_n to_o their_o superioure_n ought_v to_o be_v regard_v say_v that_o martyrdom_n suffer_v for_o eschew_v of_o schism_n be_v more_o glorious_a than_o martyrdom_n suffer_v for_o eschew_v idolatry_n 51._o thirdlie_o these_o office_n or_o duty_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o other_o by_o way_n of_o justice_n be_v more_o strict_o obligatorie_n than_o these_o which_o we_o owe_v to_o they_o only_o by_o way_n of_o charity_n and_o consequent_o these_o precept_n which_o prescrybe_n duty_n of_o justice_n be_v of_o great_a obligation_n than_o these_o which_o prescrybe_n duty_n of_o charity_n only_o but_o we_o owe_v the_o duty_n of_o obedience_n to_o our_o superior_n by_o way_n of_o justice_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v more_o obligatorie_n than_o the_o duty_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n causleslie_o take_v which_o be_v a_o duty_n only_o of_o charity_n the_o major_n or_o first_o proposition_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v clear_a of_o itself_o as_o be_v a_o maxim_n not_o only_o receive_v by_o the_o scholasticke_n and_o popish_a casuist_n but_o also_o by_o our_o divyne_n see_v your_o own_o amesius_n in_o his_o medulla_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 16._o §_o 58.59.60.61.62.63_o where_o he_o not_o only_o propon_v this_o maxim_n but_o also_o prove_v it_o by_o two_o most_o evident_a example_n the_o minor_a be_v likewise_o clear_a for_o first_o the_o duty_n of_o obedience_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o the_o public_a law_n of_o the_o church_n and_o kingdom_n belong_v to_o that_o general_n justice_n which_o be_v call_v justitia_fw-la legalis_fw-la for_o the_o legal_a justice_n as_o it_o be_v in_o inferior_n or_o subject_n it_o be_v a_o virtue_n incline_v they_o to_o the_o obedience_n of_o all_o law_n make_v for_o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n as_o aristotle_n declare_v in_o his_o 5_o book_n of_o the_o ethic_n cap._n 1._o secondlie_o debitum_fw-la obedientiae_fw-la the_o debt_n of_o obedience_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o our_o superioure_n be_v not_o only_o debitum_fw-la morale_fw-la a_o debt_n or_o duty_n unto_o which_o we_o be_v tie_v by_o moral_a honesty_n and_o god_n commandment_n but_o also_o debitum_fw-la legale_fw-la or_o debitum_fw-la justitiae_fw-la quod_fw-la viz._n fundatur_fw-la in_o proprio_fw-la jure_fw-la alterius_fw-la a_o debt_n ground_v upon_o the_o true_a and_o proper_a right_n which_o our_o superioure_n have_v to_o exact_v this_o duty_n of_o we_o so_o that_o they_o may_v accuse_v we_o of_o injury_n and_o censure_v we_o if_o we_o perform_v it_o not_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n betwixt_o these_o two_o sort_n 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article_n which_o we_o call_v necessary_a and_o you_o do_v reject_v 11._o the_o exercise_n of_o some_o affirmative_a necessary_a duty_n may_v be_v some_o time_n omit_v by_o authority_n without_o sin_n for_o the_o public_a peace_n or_o some_o press_a necessity_n thus_o moses_n permit_v repudiation_n of_o a_o man_n marry_a wife_n not_o fall_v into_o adultery_n neither_o do_v he_o urge_v strict_o the_o affirmative_a duty_n of_o adherence_n and_o that_o for_o the_o hardness_n of_o their_o heart_n wherein_o moses_n have_v respect_n to_o the_o peace_n and_o unity_n of_o the_o tribe_n of_o israel_n as_o alexander_n alensis_n observe_v in_o his_o sum_n of_o theology_n part._n 3._o qu._n 46._o membro_fw-la 1._o art_n 1._o &_o art_n 2._o david_n do_v not_o execute_v in_o his_o own_o time_n judgement_n against_o joab_n for_o his_o murder_n of_o abner_n and_o amasa_n because_o the_o son_n of_o zerviah_n be_v too_o hard_a for_o he_o circumcision_n be_v omit_v because_o of_o the_o uncertayntie_a 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fide_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la cap_n 5._o for_o in_o this_o time_n say_v gregory_n the_o holy_a church_n do_v correct_v some_o thing_n by_o fervour_n some_o thing_n she_o tolerate_v by_o meekness_n some_o thing_n by_o consideration_n she_o dissemble_v and_o bear_v possant_fw-la so_o that_o often_o by_o bear_v and_o dissemble_v she_o compesce_v or_o put_v away_o that_o evil_a which_o she_o hate_v and_o prosper_n say_v for_o this_o cause_n therefore_o they_o must_v with_o gentle_a piety_n be_v bear_v with_o who_o for_o their_o infirmity_n may_v not_o be_v rebuke_v 13._o when_o a_o doctrinal_a error_n not_o be_v fundamental_a prevail_v by_o public_a authority_n in_o any_o church_n a_o private_a pastor_n or_o doctor_n espy_v it_o may_v lawful_o and_o laudablie_o forbear_v public_a stryve_v against_o it_o when_o he_o evidentlie_o perceave_v that_o unavoidable_a schism_n will_v follow_v there-upon_o in_o such_o a_o case_n he_o shall_v content_v himself_o to_o feed_v his_o hearer_n with_o 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church_n so_o requyre_v