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A69145 The progenie of Catholicks and Protestants Whereby on the one side is proued the lineal descent of Catholicks, for the Roman faith and religion, from the holie fathers of the primitiue Church ... and on the other, the neuer-being of Protestants or their nouel sect during al the foresayd time, otherwise then in confessed and condemned hereticks. ... Anderton, Lawrence. 1633 (1633) STC 579; ESTC S100158 364,704 286

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continuance_n of_o our_o now_o roman_a church_n and_o religion_n for_o these_o last_o thousand_o year_n be_v take_v from_o the_o confess_v belief_n and_o profession_n of_o such_o person_n as_o live_v within_o the_o foresay_a time_n be_v most_o famous_a and_o notorious_a in_o one_o respect_n or_o other_o chapter_n iii_o in_o further_a evidence_n then_o of_o our_o catholic_n church_n reign_v and_o general_a dominion_n for_o these_o last_o thousand_o year_n i_o will_v descend_v to_o particular_a station_n or_o period_n of_o time_n and_o such_o especial_o as_o for_o some_o important_a respect_n be_v most_o know_v and_o notorious_a and_o first_o i_o will_v begin_v with_o the_o time_n of_o luther_n himself_o at_o his_o first_o appear_v protestant_n when_o i_o find_v the_o whole_a face_n of_o the_o world_n to_o be_v so_o roman_n catholic_n as_o that_o himself_o be_v a_o 228_o a_o tom._n 7._o witt_n f._n 228_o anoint_a priest_n and_o a_o translation_n a_o simon_n de_fw-fr voyon_n in_o his_o discourse_n upon_o the_o catalogue_n etc._n etc._n p._n 180._o and_o luther_n ad_fw-la gal._n c._n 1._o fol._n 35_o after_o the_o english_a translation_n augustin-friar_n etc._n etc._n and_o live_v in_o his_o monastery_n punish_v his_o body_n with_o watch_v fast_v and_o prayer_n ibidem_fw-la prayer_n luther_n ibidem_fw-la honour_v the_o pope_n of_o mere_a conscience_n keep_v chastity_n poverty_n and_o obedience_n and_o whatsoever_o say_v he_o i_o do_v i_o do_v it_o with_o a_o single_a hart_n of_o good_a zeal_n and_o for_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n but_o when_o he_o fall_v into_o his_o apostasy_n so_o direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o then_o present_a or_o precedent_a profession_n of_o religion_n over_o the_o world_n his_o trouble_a conscience_n burst_v out_o into_o these_o word_n 244._o word_n luth._o to_o 2._o germ._n foe_n 9_o and_o tom_fw-mi 2._o wittemb_v de_fw-fr abroganda_fw-la missa_fw-la privata_fw-la fol._n 244._o how_o often_o do_v my_o tremble_a hart_n beat_v within_o i_o and_o reprehend_v i_o object_n against_o i_o that_o strong_a argument_n be_v thou_o only_o wise_a do_v so_o many_o world_n err_v be_v so_o many_o age_n ignorant_a what_o if_o thou_o err_v and_o draw_v so_o many_o into_o error_n to_o be_v damn_v with_o thou_o eternal_o and_o breviss_n and_o tom._n 5._o annot._n breviss_n again_o do_v thou_o o_o sole_a man_n and_o of_o no_o account_n take_v upon_o thou_o so_o great_a matter_n what_o if_o thou_o be_v but_o one_o offend_v if_o god_n permit_v such_o and_o so_o many_o and_o all_o to_o err_v why_o may_v he_o not_o permit_v thou_o to_o err_v hitherto_o appertain_v these_o argument_n the_o church_n the_o church_n the_o father_n the_o father_n the_o counsel_n the_o custom_n the_o multitude_n and_o greatness_n of_o wise_a man_n who_o do_v not_o these_o hill_n of_o argument_n these_o cloud_n yea_o these_o sea_n of_o example_n overwhelm_v say_v luther_n and_o again_o pref._n again_o tom._n 1._o witemb_v pref._n at_o the_o first_o i_o be_v alone_o 63._o alone_o tom._n 2._o fol._n 63._o and_o alone_o roll_v the_o stone_n yea_o 51._o yea_o loc._n come_v class_n 4._o cap._n 30._o pag._n 51._o undertake_v so_o great_a a_o business_n upon_o i_o alone_o and_o confess_v it_o be_v that_o luther_n at_o his_o first_o revolt_n from_o be_v a_o catholic_n friar_n be_v the_o first_o sole_z and_o only_a man_n that_o begin_v protestancie_n thereby_o depart_v as_o himself_o confess_v from_o the_o church_n from_o father_n counsel_n and_o so_o many_o world_n so_o many_o age_n precedent_n this_o point_n be_v so_o certain_a that_o m._n jewel_n 426._o jewel_n in_o his_o apology_n of_o the_o church_n of_o eng._n part_n 4._o c._n 4._o and_o in_o his_o def._n of_o the_o apol._n pa._n 426._o confess_v that_o the_o protestant_n truth_n be_v unknown_a at_o that_o time_n and_o unheard-of_a when_o martin_n luther_n and_o hulderick_n suinglius_fw-la first_fw-mi come_v unto_o the_o knowledge_n and_o preach_v of_o the_o gospel_n and_o bucer_n euang._n bucer_n in_o epist_n an._n 36._o ad_fw-la episc_n heref._n praefix_v enarrat_fw-la buceri_fw-la in_o 4._o euang._n call_v luther_n the_o first_o apostle_n to_o we_o of_o the_o pure_a gospel_n yea_o the_o lutheran_n 130._o lutheran_n schlusselburge_n theol._n caluin_n li._n 2._o fol_z 130._o do_v affirm_v it_o impudency_n to_o say_v that_o many_o learned_a man_n in_o germany_n before_o luther_n do_v hold_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n 138._o gospel_n in_o augustan_n confess_v explic_a arti_fw-la 7._o de_fw-la eccl._n p._n 137._o 138._o georgius_n miluis_fw-la argue_v that_o if_o there_o have_v be_v right_a believer_n that_o go_v before_o luther_n in_o his_o office_n etc._n etc._n there_o have_v then_o be_v no_o need_n of_o a_o lutheran_n reformation_n therefore_o we_o say_v that_o luther_n be_v raysed-up_a by_o god_n special_a appointement_n and_o extraordinary_o so_o likewise_o 145._o likewise_o trac_n de_fw-fr eccl._n pag._n 145._o morgensterne_n judge_v it_o ridiculous_a to_o think_v that_o in_o the_o time_n before_o luther_n any_o have_v the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n and_o that_o luther_n shall_v receive_v it_o from_o they_o and_o not_o they_o from_o luther_n consider_v say_v he_o it_o be_v manifest_a to_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n that_o before_o luther_n time_n all_o church_n be_v overwhelm_v with_o more_o than_o cimmerian_a darkness_n and_o that_o luther_n be_v divine_o raise_v up_o to_o discover_v the_o same_o and_o to_o restore_v the_o light_n of_o true_a doctrine_n in_o so_o much_o as_o doctrinae_fw-la as_o epist_n ad_fw-la argentinenses_n &_o in_o praef._n in_o corp_n doctrinae_fw-la luther_n say_v of_o himself_o we_o dare_v glory_n that_o christ_n be_v first_o make_v know_v by_o us._n and_o he_o term_v 2._o term_v in_o deutronom_n in_o pref_o fol._n 2._o his_o doctrine_n resurgens_fw-la vel_fw-la potius_fw-la oriens_fw-la euangelium_fw-la the_o gospel_n rise_v again_o or_o rather_o first_o beginning_n a_o truth_n so_o clear_a that_o 264._o that_o de_fw-fr fraetrun_v orthodox_n eccl._n pa._n 264._o camerarius_fw-la avouching_a wicliffe_n to_o have_v be_v holpen_v or_o instruct_v by_o the_o waldense_n and_o husse_v by_o wiccliffe_n speak_v yet_o of_o luther_n affirm_v to_o the_o contrary_a that_o luther_n receive_v his_o doctrine_n neither_o from_o husse_n or_o wiccliffe_n but_o be_v instruct_v of_o himself_o as_o he_o declare_v of_o himself_o in_o his_o writing_n in_o wh●ch_a respect_n also_o say_v m._n wotton_n luther_n may_v true_o say_v that_o he_o be_v the_o first_o which_o have_v in_o these_o time_n publish_v christ_n especial_o in_o the_o chief_a point_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v 392._o be_v in_o his_o trial_n of_o the_o romish_a clerg_n title_n pa._n 392._o justification_n by_o faith_n in_o christ_n and_o in_o this_o respect_n it_o be_v a_o honour_n to_o luther_n to_o have_v be_v a_o son_n without_o a_o father_n a_o disciple_n without_o a_o master_n agreable_o whereunto_o also_o say_v m._n 770._o m._n act_n mon._n pa._n 770._o fox_n luther_n pluck_v down_o the_o fondation_n of_o papistry_n by_o open_v one_o vein_n long_o hide_v before_o the_o touchstone_n of_o all_o truth_n and_o the_o only_a principal_a origin_n of_o our_o salvation_n which_o be_v our_o free_a justification_n by_o faith_n only_o yea_o luther_n be_v so_o confess_o the_o first_o author_n or_o beginner_n of_o protestancie_n that_o one_o of_o his_o own_o brood_n write_v that_o mundi_fw-la that_o prognostica_fw-la finis_fw-la mundi_fw-la the_o spirit_n which_o tell_v thing_n to_o come_v work_v not_o but_o in_o time_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o luther_n as_o it_o be_v confess_v towards_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n do_v first_o bring-in_a and_o again_o 13._o again_o ibid._n pa._n 13._o the_o seduction_n of_o false_a prophet_n be_v not_o manifest_v but_o under_o the_o gospel_n which_o before_o luther_n as_o we_o say_v never_o go_v since_o the_o primitive_a time_n of_o the_o apostle_n some_o protestant_n 32._o protestant_n in_o his_o article_n art_n 19_o p._n 130._o dove_n in_o his_o recusancie_n pa._n 32._o say_v d._n covel_n make_v luther_n and_o caluin_n author_n of_o the_o religion_n among_o us._n by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o luther_n be_v bear_v and_o breed_v a_o catholic_n and_o that_o at_o the_o same_o time_n the_o religion_n know_v and_o practise_v over_o the_o christian_a world_n be_v the_o present_a roman_a from_o which_o luther_n then_o revolt_a confess_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o sole_a and_o only_a man_n who_o first_o preach_v the_o protestant_a gospel_n and_o so_o be_v confess_v by_o other_o protestant_n to_o be_v the_o first_o author_n of_o their_o religion_n to_o be_v their_o first_o apostle_n and_o to_o be_v a_o son_n without_o a_o father_n a_o disciple_n without_o a_o master_n at_o the_o same_o time_n of_o luther_n reign_v here_o in_o england_n king_n henry_n the_o eight_o in_o who_o time_n our_o roman_a religion_n be_v so_o universal_a that_o d._n willet_n confess_v
be_v term_v 257._o term_v lib._n german_n quo_fw-la causas_fw-la recusati_fw-la concilij_fw-la trid._n reddunt_fw-la f._n 257._o a_o impudent_a writer_n heave_v the_o pope_n up_o into_o a_o idol_n a_o corrupt_a of_o god_n honour_n and_o preacher_n of_o antichrist_n yea_o so_o sincere_o be_v he_o affect_v to_o the_o pope_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o the_o centurist_n report_v he_o to_o 1639._o to_o cent._n 12._o col._n 1639._o say_v to_o the_o count_n of_o aquitaine_n whatsoever_o be_v out_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o by_o god_n judgement_n be_v of_o necessity_n to_o perish_v even_o as_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v out_o of_o the_o ark_n be_v drown_v in_o the_o deluge_n etc._n etc._n as_o also_o he_o that_o persecute_v the_o pope_n of_o rome_n who_o the_o centurist_n here_o call_v antichrist_n he_o persecute_v say_v s._n bernard_n the_o son_n of_o god_n himself_o neither_o be_v any_o of_o this_o papistry_n note_v as_o then_o to_o be_v singular_a in_o s._n bernard_n but_o to_o the_o contrary_a it_o be_v confess_v by_o m._n jewel_n and_o m._n whitaker_n that_o s._n bernard_n live_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o pope_n rout_n and_o tyranny_n d._n morton_n as_o former_o calling_z s._n bernard_n for_o his_o life_n a_o saint_n and_o for_o his_o doctrine_n a_o lamp_n to_o prevent_v objection_n thereby_o arise_v against_o he_o provident_o add_v that_o he_o neither_o be_v saint_n nor_o lamp_n 458._o lamp_n prot._n appeal_v p._n 458._o simple_o as_o unspotted_a with_o error_n but_o comparative_o or_o &c._n &c._n in_o his_o generation_n that_o be_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o age_n wherein_o he_o live_v when_o a_o deluge_n of_o iniquity_n and_o miss_v of_o popish_a superstition_n have_v overspr_v the_o outward_a face_n of_o the_o church_n so_o true_o papistical_a be_v s._n bernard_n at_o this_o time_n of_o s._n bernard_n live_v also_o s._n malachias_n of_o who_o osiander_n write_v thus_o 256._o thus_o cent._n 12._o p._n 315._o 256._o malachias_n a_o archbishop_n in_o ireland_n from_o his_o childhood_n be_v give_v to_o learning_n and_o religion_n and_o at_o length_n entreat_v and_o much_o enforce_v he_o undertake_v to_o be_v the_o archbishop_n of_o ireland_n he_o be_v very_o familiar_a with_o s._n bernard_n admire_v and_o imitate_v his_o monachisme_n and_o embrace_v popish_a superstition_n he_o worship_v the_o pope_n of_o rome_n for_o god_n to_o he_o very_o many_o miracle_n be_v ascribe_v etc._n etc._n so_o true_o roman_n catholic_n be_v s._n malachias_n 154._o malachias_n def._n of_o the_o apol._n p_o 557._o whit_n count_v dur._n l._n 2._o p._n 154._o in_o the_o age_n precedent_n to_o these_o live_v berengarius_fw-la who_o be_v a_o catholic_n priest_n and_o the_o archdeacon_n of_o angiers_n dissent_v afterward_o from_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n which_o yet_o before_o his_o death_n he_o so_o full_o 458._o full_o fox_n act._n monu_n p._n 13._o westphalus_n his_o apologetica_fw-la &c._n &c._n fol._n 6._o osiand_n cent._n 11._o p._n 158._o centurie-writer_n cent._n 11._o col_fw-fr 458._o recant_v and_o conform_v himself_o to_o the_o roman_a church_n as_o that_o the_o same_o be_v plain_o acknowledge_v by_o m._n fox_n by_o westphalus_n osiander_n and_o the_o centurist_n who_o record_v his_o recantation_n verbatim_o as_o it_o be_v before_o he_o live_v the_o most_o renown_a emperor_n charles_n the_o great_a who_o be_v so_o whole_o devote_a to_o the_o roman_a religion_n as_o that_o the_o same_o be_v plentiful_o aknowledge_v by_o 533._o by_o osiand_n in_o ep_v cent_n 8_o p._n 101._o cowper_v chron._n fol_z 173._o fox_n in_o apoc._n p._n 436._o crispinus_n of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 221._o bull_v in_o 2._o thess_n p._n 533._o osiander_n d._n cowper_n m._n fox_n crispinus_n and_o bullinger_n in_o somuch_o that_o sacram._n that_o in_o epist_n dedic_n hist_o sacram._n hospinian_n affirm_v that_o the_o emperor_n charles_n the_o great_a command_v not_o only_o by_o public_a edict_n that_o the_o ceremony_n and_o rite_n as_o also_o the_o latin_a mass_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o the_o other_o decree_n statute_n and_o ordinance_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n shall_v be_v observe_v but_o himself_o also_o by_o imprisonnent_n and_o other_o kind_n of_o punishment_n compel_v church_n to_o the_o same_o yea_o such_o be_v the_o union_n between_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n and_o charles_n the_o great_a in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o friendship_n as_o that_o according_a to_o d._n cowpers_n 174._o cowpers_n chron._n f._n 174._o relation_n there_o be_v certain_a bishop_n send_v by_o adrian_n to_o charles_n who_o hold_v a_o council_n in_o france_n against_o the_o condemnation_n of_o image_n etc._n etc._n and_o of_o the_o other_o side_n whereas_o paulus_n franc._n paulus_n lib._n 2._o hist_o franc._n aemilius_n relate_v that_o charles_n the_o great_a send_v twelve_o bishop_n unto_o a_o council_n hold_v at_o rome_n by_o pope_n stephen_n in_o confutation_n of_o the_o error_n of_o the_o greek_n against_o image_n the_o same_o be_v so_o true_a that_o the_o like_a report_n thereof_o be_v make_v by_o the_o 570._o the_o cent._n 8._o col_fw-fr 570._o centurie-writer_n so_o assure_v it_o be_v that_o this_o age_n in_o the_o opinion_n of_o protestant_n be_v most_o superstitious_a and_o papistical_a before_o charles_n live_v s._n bede_n who_o 58._o who_o cent._n 8._o p._n 58._o osiander_n term_v a_o good_a man_n and_o d._n cowper_n 171._o cowper_n chron._n f._n 171._o confess_v that_o he_o be_v renown_v in_o all_o the_o world_n for_o his_o learning_n and_o godly_a life_n for_o which_o he_o be_v also_o privilege_v with_o the_o surname_n of_o reverend_a 128._o reverend_a hollinsh_fw-mi chron_n at_o an._n 735._o cowper_v chron._n at_o an._n 724_o fol._n 168._o fox_n act._n mon._n p._n 128._o and_o by_o d._n 326._o d._n jesuit_n part_n 2._o p._n 326._o humphrey_n be_v special_o register_v among_o the_o godly_a man_n raised-up_a by_o the_o holie-ghost_n d._n morton_n say_v 70._o say_v prot._n appeal_n l._n 1._o p._n 70._o although_o we_o deny_v not_o that_o bede_n do_v hold_v diverse_a romish_a doctrine_n yet_o do_v we_o find_v sufficient_a cause_n in_o his_o writing_n why_o we_o may_v allow_v he_o his_o title_n of_o venerable_a and_o good_a man_n m._n bale_n further_o testify_v that_o s._n bede_n 1._o bede_n cent._n 2._o c._n 1._o be_v so_o practise_v in_o profane_a author_n that_o he_o scarce_o have_v his_o match_n in_o that_o age_n he_o learned_a physic_n and_o metaphysic_n out_o of_o the_o pure_a fountain_n he_o know_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n so_o sound_o that_o for_o his_o exact_a knowledge_n both_o of_o greek_a and_o latin_a many_o prefer_v he_o before_o gregory_n the_o great_a there_o be_v scarce_o any_o thing_n worth_n read_v to_o be_v find_v in_o all_o antiquity_n which_o in_o due_a place_n be_v not_o read_v in_o bede_n if_o he_o have_v live_v in_o the_o time_n of_o augustin_n hierom_n chrysostom_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o he_o may_v have_v contend_v for_o equality_n with_o they_o he_o put_v forth_o many_o book_n full_a of_o all_o kind_n of_o learning_n m._n fox_n acknowledge_v that_o 127._o that_o act._n mon._n p._n 127._o he_o be_v a_o man_n of_o worthy_a and_o memorable_a memory_n and_o famous_a learning_n the_o whole_a latin_a church_n at_o that_o time_n give_v he_o the_o mastery_n in_o judgement_n and_o knowledge_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n m._n bel_n grant_v downfall_n grant_v downfall_n that_o bede_n for_o virtue_n and_o learning_n be_v renown_v in_o all_o the_o world_n and_o m._n cambden_n record_v that_o bede_n 670._o bede_n descrip_n brit._n p._n 670._o the_o singular_a glory_n of_o england_n by_o piety_n and_o erudition_n obtain_v the_o name_n of_o venerable_a write_v many_o volume_n most_o leardned_o so_o true_o godly_a learned_a and_o renown_a be_v s._n bede_n even_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o protestant_n but_o now_o to_o observe_v in_o particular_a whether_o the_o faith_n and_o religion_n teach_v believe_v and_o practise_v by_o this_o so_o worthy_a a_o man_n be_v roman_a catholic_n or_o english_a protestant_n 58._o protestant_n cent._n 8._o p._n 58._o osiander_n who_o before_o call_v he_o a_o good_a man_n in_o express_a term_n confess_v that_o bede_n be_v wrap_v in_o all_o the_o popish_a error_n wherein_o we_o protestant_n at_o this_o day_n dissent_v from_o the_o pope_n for_o he_o admire_v and_o embrace_v the_o worship_n of_o image_n the_o popish_a mass_n invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n in_o which_o respect_n also_o m._n fox_n 129._o fox_n act._n mon._n p._n 128._o 129._o acknowledge_v that_o he_o live_v in_o great_a credit_n and_o esteem_v with_o the_o pope_n of_o that_o age_n who_o m._n fulk_n 278._o fulk_n retentive_a ag_n bristol_n p._n 278._o term_v antichrist_n and_o thereupon_o reject_v s._n bede_n authority_n say_v the_o last_o testimony_n out_o of_o bede_n
the_o window_n herein_o as_o our_o doctor_n with_o his_o other_o brethren_n have_v blind_o observe_v to_o which_o effect_n d._n fulk_n acknowledge_v that_o s._n ambrose_n 202._o ambrose_n in_o his_o confutation_n of_o purgat_fw-la p_o 78._o 320._o 326_o 202._o allow_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o common_a error_n of_o his_o time_n as_o also_o 675._o also_o ibid._n p_o 194._o and_o see_v cent._n 5._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr 675._o that_o chrysostom_n &_o hierome_n allow_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o chemnitius_n confess_v the_o same_o of_o ambrose_n 94._o ambrose_n exam._n part_n 3._o p._n 93._o 94._o prudentius_n &_o hierome_n and_o further_o reprehend_v s._n epiphanius_n 107._o epiphanius_n ibid._n p._n 107._o as_o not_o dare_v to_o refute_v such_o opinion_n of_o the_o common_a people_n as_o also_o s._n augustin_n &_o s._n chrysostom_n for_o yield_v over_o much_o herein_o to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o time_n and_o the_o receive_v opinion_n of_o the_o vulgar_a gal._n vulgar_a de_fw-fr ratione_fw-la refor_n eccl._n edic_fw-la gal._n i_o do_v not_o deny_v say_v caluin_n these_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a to_o have_v be_v receive_v by_o s._n chrysostom_n epiphanius_n &_o s._n austin_n and_o such_o other_o because_o they_o have_v they_o from_o their_o predecessor_n etc._n etc._n but_o these_o good_a man_n who_o i_o have_v name_v with_o over_o much_o credulity_n without_o all_o discretion_n &_o judgement_n follow_v that_o which_o within_o short_a time_n have_v get_v authority_n osiander_n testify_v that_o 23_o pelagius_n the_o second_o decree_v that_o memory_n of_o the_o dead_a shall_v be_v make_v in_o every_o mass_n after_o the_o elevation_n of_o the_o healthful_a host_n which_o decree_n be_v observe_v even_o unto_o this_o day_n melancthon_n charge_v the_o whole_a council_n of_o carthage_n herewith_o say_v 216_o say_v in_o his_o libelli_fw-la aliquot_fw-la etc._n etc._n f._n 19_o and_o see_v apol._n conf_n aug_n c._n de_fw-la vocabulis_fw-la missae_fw-la f._n 216_o the_o four_o carthage_n council_n contain_v a_o decree_n of_o prayer_n &_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a in_o these_o word_n etc._n etc._n d._n fulk_n acknowledge_v that_o this_o forefather_n 44._o forefather_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterf_n cath._n p._n 44._o aerius_n teach_v that_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v unprofitable_a as_o witness_v say_v he_o both_o epiphanius_n &_o austin_n which_o they_o count_v for_o a_o error_n hereunto_o agree_v hospinian_n say_v 155._o say_v hist_o sacr_n part_n 1._o fol._n 155._o it_o be_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o the_o vulgar_a that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a may_v something_o be_v holpen_v by_o the_o prayer_n alm_n &_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v do_v upon_o earth_n as_o be_v evident_o understand_v by_o the_o disputation_n of_o epiphanius_n with_o aërius_n d._n fulk_n not_o only_o reprehend_v 349._o reprehend_v in_o his_o confut._n of_o purgat_fw-la p._n 320._o 294._o 326._o 349._o ambrose_n chrysostome_n &_o austin_n for_o allow_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a but_o withal_o he_o admit_v that_o it_o 78._o it_o ibid._n p._n 320._o 326._o 34●_n 78._o be_v the_o common_a error_n of_o their_o time_n and_o that_o the_o error_n of_o purgatory_n be_v somewhat_o rife_o bud_v in_o augustine_n time_n 161._o time_n ibid._n p._n 161._o yea_o answer_v to_o d._n allen_n he_o grant_v that_o 78._o that_o ibid._n p._n 78._o austin_n speak_v of_o the_o amend_v fire_n in_o the_o place_n by_o m._n allen_n allege_v he_o do_v so_o indeed_o say_v d._n fulk_n but_o austin_n have_v no_o ground_n of_o that_o fire_n but_o in_o the_o common_a error_n of_o his_o time_n so_o confess_o be_v the_o amend_v fire_n of_o purgatory_n the_o common_a doctrine_n of_o s._n augustine_n time_n a_o truth_n so_o certain_a that_o chemnitius_n for_o the_o self_n same_o doctrine_n reprehend_v 92._o reprehend_v exam._n part_n 3._o p._n 92._o clemens_n alexandrinus_n 93._o alexandrinus_n ibid._n p._n 93._o ambrose_n hierom_n 94._o hierom_n ibid._n p._n 94._o &_o prudentius_n ibid._n prudentius_n ibid._n and_o fulk_n speak_v of_o constantin_n the_o great_a who_o live_v somewhat_o before_o these_o father_n affirm_v that_o 313._o that_o in_o his_o confut_o of_o purg._n p._n 313._o in_o the_o burial_n of_o constantin_n there_o be_v mention_n of_o prayer_n for_o his_o soul_n according_a to_o the_o error_n of_o his_o time_n in_o like_a sort_n the_o centurist_n observe_v that_o 454._o that_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 454._o a_o great_a multitude_n of_o people_n pour_v out_o their_o prayer_n with_o tear_n for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o for_o the_o same_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n they_o accuse_v 304._o accuse_v cent._n 4._o c._n 4._o p._n 304._o lactantius_n prudentius_n &_o s._n hierome_n d._n beard_n speak_v of_o those_o father_n 414._o father_n retractive_a from_o romish_a religion_n p._n 414._o which_o do_v patronize_v purgatory_n mention_v from_o bellarmine_n athanasius_n basil_n &_o gregory_n nazianzene_n neither_o be_v this_o so_o general_a practice_n of_o the_o people_n or_o uniform_a consent_n in_o doctrine_n of_o these_o ancient_a father_n any_o innovation_n or_o first_o beginning_n error_n of_o their_o time_n for_o it_o be_v further_o confess_v by_o d._n fulk_n that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n not_o begin_v but_o ●06_n but_o in_o his_o retentive_a etc._n etc._n p._n ●06_n prevayl_v say_v he_o within_o three_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o m._n gifford_n 38._o gifford_n in_o his_o demonstration_n that_o our_o browniste_n be_v full_a donatist_n p._n 38._o grant_v that_o in_o the_o church_n public_a worship_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o to_o offer_v oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v general_a in_o the_o church_n long_o before_o the_o day_n of_o austin_n as_o appear_v say_v he_o in_o cyprian_n &_o tertulian_n which_o be_v before_o he_o and_o near_o to_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n so_o likewise_o caluin_n 10._o caluin_n inst_z l_o 3_o c._n 5._o sec_fw-la 10._o acknowledge_v that_o above_o one_o thousand_o three_o hundred_o year_n since_o it_o be_v usual_a that_o prayer_n shall_v be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a whatsoever_o hereof_o be_v read_v in_o the_o ancient_n writer_n be_v yield_v to_o the_o public_a custom_n and_o to_o the_o ignorance_n of_o the_o people_n etc._n etc._n i_o confess_v they_o be_v draw_v headlong_o into_o error_n even_o as_o inconsiderate_a credulity_n do_v usual_o deprive_v the_o mind_n of_o man_n of_o judgement_n and_o relate_v the_o custom_n of_o make_v commemoration_n of_o the_o dead_a in_o the_o supper_n or_o sacrifice_n that_o place_n of_o ease_n light_n and_o peace_n may_v be_v give_v to_o they_o he_o further_o say_v i_o do_v not_o deny_v this_o to_o have_v be_v a_o most_o ancient_a custom_n and_o because_o great_a be_v the_o force_n of_o custom_n or_o rather_o tyranny_n therefore_o i_o confess_v these_o prayer_n to_o have_v be_v approve_v by_o chrysostome_n epiphanius_n augustin_n and_o the_o like_a because_o as_o by_o hand_n they_o be_v deliver_v to_o they_o from_o their_o ancestor_n beza_n speak_v of_o the_o time_n of_o cyprian_a austin_n and_o chrysostom_n confess_v that_o as_o then_o con_v then_o praef._n in_o nowm_fw-la test_n ad_fw-la princ._n con_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v begin_v to_o be_v use_v more_o free_o the_o protestant_a 206_o protestant_a in_o apoc._n p._n 206_o joannes_n winkelmannus_n avouch_v that_o origen_n decree_v a_o purgatory_n wherein_o after_o this_o life_n some_o sin_n be_v purge_v the_o centurist_n 87._o centurist_n cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 87._o report_v that_o thou_o may_v see_v some_o seed_n of_o purgatory_n spread_v abroad_o in_o some_o place_n of_o origen_n as_o hom_n 2._o in_o psal_n 36._o yea_o in_o the_o same_o place_n they_o allege_v sundry_a of_o origen_n saying_n affirm_v purgatory_n and_o 265._o and_o cent._n 3_o col_fw-fr 265._o in_o another_o place_n they_o acknowledge_v that_o origen_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr principijs_fw-la decree_v purgatory_n to_o be_v the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o for_o the_o same_o doctrine_n they_o reprehend_v 139._o reprehend_v cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 138._o 139._o both_o cyprian_a and_o tertullian_n yea_o other_o protestant_n affirm_v of_o s._n cyprian_n s._n augustin_n &_o s._n john_n damascene_fw-la in_o that_o they_o defend_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a that_o 449._o that_o clypeus_fw-la fidei_fw-la dial._n 11._o p._n 449._o they_o be_v mere_a foolery_n which_o they_o have_v write_v of_o this_o matter_n and_o that_o such_o their_o doctrine_n be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v to_o ihe_v rash_a stupidity_n wherewith_o their_o head_n be_v move_v see_v they_o be_v devoid_a of_o the_o holie-ghost_n chemnitius_n grant_v that_o in_o the_o writing_n of_o dionysius_n the_o areopagite_n who_o be_v convert_v by_o the_o apostle_n mention_n be_v make_v of_o prayer_n 110._o prayer_n exam._n part_n 3._o p._n 110._o for_o the_o dead_a in_o the_o church_n and_o the_o like_a
one_o be_v that_o faith_n only_o do_v not_o justify_v luther_n 220._o luther_n in_o gal._n c._n 4._o and_o after_o the_o english_a translation_n fol._n 220._o term_v s._n hierom_n ambrose_n austin_n and_o other_o justice-worke●s_a or_o as_o the_o english_a translation_n thereof_o have_v merit-monger_n of_o the_o old_a papacy_n and_o because_o he_o and_o his_o child_n confirm_v their_o doctrine_n of_o sole_a faith_n by_o certain_a sentence_n especial_o take_v out_o of_o s._n paul_n epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n and_o galathian_o which_o they_o wrest_v to_o another_o sense_n than_o ever_o be_v give_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n hence_o he_o make_v this_o complaint_n say_v ecclesiae_fw-la say_v in_o colloq_fw-la conuival_n c._n de_fw-fr patribus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la neither_o be_v there_o any_o work_v extant_a of_o the_o father_n upon_o the_o epistle_n either_o to_o the_o roman_n or_o to_o the_o galathian_o in_o which_o any_o thing_n pure_a and_o sincere_a may_v be_v find_v but_o of_o s._n hierome_n in_o particular_a because_o he_o contrari_v his_o exposition_n of_o the_o say_a epistle_n he_o avouch_v that_o gal._n that_o tom._n 5._o in_o ep._n ad_fw-la gal._n c._n 3._o f._n 348._o &_o tom_n 2._o de_fw-fr seruo_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la f._n 473._o et_fw-la in_o ep._n ad_fw-la brentium_n quae_fw-la praefixa_fw-la est_fw-la brentii_fw-la com._n in_o oseam_n and_o see_v he_o in_o c._n 5._o ad_fw-la gal._n he_o be_v deceive_v by_o origen_n and_o that_o he_o understand_v nothing_o at_o all_o in_o s._n paul_n but_o deprave_a the_o justice_n of_o only_a faith_n and_o that_o this_o one_o error_n of_o his_o be_v so_o great_a that_o it_o alone_o be_v sufficient_a to_o destroy_v the_o gospel_n by_o which_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v say_v luther_n through_o the_o singular_a grace_n of_o god_n hierome_n have_v merit_v rather_o hell_n than_o heaven_n the_o centurist_n have_v prove_v at_o large_a that_o neither_o lactantius_n chromatius_n ephrem_n theophilus_n s._n hierome_n s._n gregory_n nyssene_n s._n gregory_n nazianzene_n s._n hilary_n nor_o s._n ambrose_n ever_o acknowledge_v their_o manner_n of_o justification_n by_o faith_n only_o infer_v thereupon_o 293._o thereupon_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 292._o 293._o now_o let_v the_o godly_a reader_n imagine_v with_o himself_o how_o far_o this_o age_n touch_v this_o article_n go_v astray_o from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o see_v the_o father_n of_o the_o four_o age_n further_o dislike_v therein_o by_o 70_o by_o cent._n 4._o p._n 102_o 506_o 520._o 430._o 70_o osiander_n and_o 110._o and_o exam._n part_n 4._o p._n 110._o chemnitius_n but_o to_o arise_v to_o the_o three_o age_n 391._o age_n in_o rom._n p._n 391._o melancthon_n affirm_v that_o origen_n and_o many_o other_o follow_v he_o imagine_v that_o man_n be_v just_a by_o reason_n of_o their_o work_n the_o 266_o the_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 265._o 266_o centurist_n plain_o confess_v that_o origen_n make_v good_a work_n the_o cause_n of_o justification_n 79._o justification_n ibid._n col_fw-fr 79._o and_o speak_v of_o the_o father_n of_o that_o age_n they_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o attribute_v to_o good_a work_n justice_n before_o god_n as_o origen_n l._n 1._o in_o job._n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o as_o then_o for_o the_o most_o part_n this_o chief_a article_n of_o justification_n seem_v to_o have_v be_v obscure_v 206._o obscure_v in_o apoc._n p._n 206._o winkelmannus_n do_v clear_o grant_v that_o origen_n ascribe_v to_o work_n the_o cause_n of_o justification_n yea_o the_o centurist_n 80_o centurist_n c●nt_fw-la 3._o col_fw-fr 80_o affirm_v that_o origen_n in_o many_o place_n ascribe_v to_o work_n the_o preparation_n and_o cause_n of_o salvation_n as_o trac_n in_o math._n &_o hom_n ●4_n in_o josuam_fw-la &_o 26._o he_o ascribe_v to_o our_o merit_n god_n dwell_v in_o we_o by_o his_o grace_n in_o which_o respect_n also_o beza_n accuse_v origen_n 46._o origen_n in_o act._n c._n 10_o 46._o of_o horrible_a blasphemy_n 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the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o church_n from_o christ_n by_o m._n pa●kins_n confess_v for_o many_o hundred_o year_n a_o universal_a apostasy_n by_o d._n willet_n defend_v that_o the_o church_n in_o which_o the_o word_n be_v true_o preach_v and_o sacrament_n administer_v have_v not_o always_o be_v by_o castalio_n confess_v that_o the_o prophecy_n of_o the_o church_n continuance_n he_o can_v find_v perform_v in_o the_o protestant_a church_n by_o david_n george_n confess_v that_o the_o protestant_a church_n have_v be_v utter_o overthrow_v &_o not_o continue_v and_o by_o bernardine_n ockin_n teach_v the_o very_a same_o so_o clear_o it_o be_v that_o the_o church_n of_o protestant_n be_v not_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n which_o according_a to_o the_o shripture_n be_v ever_o to_o continue_v even_o from_o christ_n time_n unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n but_o now_o to_o examine_v whether_o in_o our_o roman_a catholic_n church_n the_o foresaid_a scripture_n be_v true_o verify_v by_o 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or_o cottage_n in_o the_o world_n wherein_o she_o reside_v wherefore_o the_o absurdity_n and_o insufficiency_n of_o this_o former_a answer_n be_v in_o so_o many_o respect_n so_o easy_o discover_v other_o protestant_n disclaim_v from_o this_o do_v avouch_v that_o their_o church_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n have_v ever_o continue_v and_o that_o visible_a and_o know_v in_o all_o former_a age_n but_o now_o sithence_o through_o the_o late_a violence_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o clergy_n all_o testimony_n monument_n &_o record_v thereof_o be_v utter_o suppress_v and_o make_v away_o but_o the_o idle_a vanity_n of_o this_o naked_a conceit_n be_v many_o way_n appear_v for_o first_o this_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a imagination_n destitute_a of_o all_o testimony_n or_o proof_n in_o confirmation_n thereof_o second_o all_o proof_n &_o experience_n be_v direct_o to_o the_o contrary_a see_v the_o very_a book_n of_o husse_n and_o wiccliffe_n be_v yet_o extant_a to_o our_o adversary_n as_o 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