not_o limit_v within_o the_o course_n of_o this_o life_n and_o as_o though_o there_o be_v such_o communication_n between_o the_o live_n and_o the_o dead_a as_o there_o be_v between_o those_o which_o live_v in_o this_o world_n together_o chapter_n xiiii_o that_o these_o sacrifice_n and_o communion_n can_v be_v make_v in_o faith_n nor_o consequent_o be_v pleasant_a to_o god._n wherein_o they_o do_v again_o great_o fail_v &_o in_o sundry_a sort_n for_o for_o the_o first_o fault_n see_v that_o the_o do_v all_o that_o which_o they_o do_v in_o all_o these_o point_n without_o any_o word_n of_o god_n they_o can_v not_o do_v they_o in_o faith_n â—â—â—ment_n and_o if_o they_o can_v not_o do_v they_o in_o faith_n they_o may_v then_o in_o no_o wise_a please_v god_n in_o so_o do_v but_o they_o do_v great_o displease_v he_o by_o mean_v whereof_o so_o far_o off_o be_v the_o work_n which_o they_o do_v from_o be_v good_a that_o it_o be_v in_o deed_n but_o sin_n â—â—te_n and_o that_o the_o same_o be_v true_a i_o prove_v it_o unto_o they_o by_o that_o which_o be_v write_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v do_v without_o faith_n be_v sin_n 11._o and_o that_o without_o faith_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o please_v god_n and_o then_o i_o prove_v that_o all_o that_o which_o be_v do_v without_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v do_v without_o faith_n because_o that_o it_o be_v also_o write_v 10._o that_o faith_n come_v by_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o same_o wherefore_o there_o where_o this_o word_n be_v not_o and_o there_o where_o faith_n have_v not_o the_o same_o for_o his_o foundation_n there_o be_v also_o no_o faith_n â—ote_n now_o i_o have_v already_o sufficient_o show_v that_o they_o have_v no_o word_n of_o god_n whereupon_o they_o may_v build_v any_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n either_o for_o the_o live_n or_o for_o the_o dead_a except_o it_o be_v that_o which_o jesus_n christ_n himself_o have_v offer_v the_o which_o may_v not_o be_v offer_v again_o neither_o yet_o by_o any_o other_o then_o by_o himself_o only_o this_o they_o have_v no_o more_o word_n of_o god_n for_o that_o communion_n which_o they_o say_v also_o be_v administer_v in_o their_o mass_n as_o well_o for_o the_o one_o as_o for_o the_o other_o but_o they_o have_v the_o word_n of_o god_n direct_o contrary_a to_o all_o these_o point_n and_o chief_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n of_o the_o lord_n it_o follow_v then_o that_o their_o faith_n &_o religion_n in_o this_o matter_n be_v not_o found_v otherwise_o but_o only_o upon_o the_o doctrine_n &_o the_o commandment_n &_o tradition_n of_o man_n whereby_o god_n witness_v not_o only_o by_o isaiah_n but_o also_o by_o his_o own_o son_n jesus_n christ_n 7._o that_o he_o be_v serve_v in_o vain_a and_o by_o what_o testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n will_v they_o also_o prove_v either_o the_o prayer_n or_o the_o suffrage_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n now_o if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o reason_n but_o 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that_o the_o live_n may_v receive_v they_o for_o they_o i_o have_v already_o declare_v that_o it_o can_v be_v do_v for_o if_o the_o very_a live_a may_v not_o do_v it_o for_o those_o that_o be_v live_v much_o less_o yet_o may_v they_o do_v it_o for_o the_o dead_a and_o if_o it_o be_v so_o that_o it_o may_v be_v do_v wherefore_o also_o shall_v not_o the_o other_o christian_n aswell_o do_v it_o for_o their_o kinsman_n and_o friend_n which_o be_v dead_a as_z the_o priest_n &_o the_o monk_n and_o if_o they_o may_v do_v it_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o supper_n wherefore_o may_v they_o not_o do_v it_o in_o respect_n of_o baptism_n yea_o more_fw-it just_o according_a to_o their_o doctrine_n for_o they_o place_v so_o great_a necessity_n in_o the_o outward_a sign_n thereof_o that_o they_o do_v affirm_v that_o those_o can_v be_v save_v which_o can_v attain_v thereunto_o for_o the_o which_o cause_n they_o have_v forge_v a_o limb_n for_o the_o child_n which_o be_v dead_a without_o baptism_n â—â—â—e_a the_o which_o according_a to_o their_o divinity_n be_v at_o the_o least_o as_o it_o be_v a_o half_a hell_n if_o then_o it_o be_v so_o that_o the_o necessity_n be_v such_o this_o &_o that_o the_o one_o may_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n for_o the_o other_o &_o namely_o the_o priest_n &_o the_o monk_n they_o shall_v have_v great_a reason_n to_o practice_v the_o same_o rather_o in_o the_o baptism_n they_o in_o the_o supper_n forsomuch_o as_o according_a to_o their_o doctrine_n there_o be_v much_o great_a danger_n to_o be_v deprive_v of_o baptism_n then_o of_o the_o supper_n for_o they_o do_v not_o at_o all_o account_n damn_v those_o which_o do_v die_v not_o have_v receive_v the_o supper_n as_o they_o do_v those_o which_o do_v die_v without_o baptism_n wherefore_o be_v it_o then_o that_o the_o priest_n be_v not_o baptize_v rather_o for_o the_o little_a child_n which_o be_v bear_v dead_a demanâ—â—_n which_o can_v not_o live_v until_o they_o may_v receive_v baptism_n then_o to_o receive_v the_o supper_n for_o the_o live_n &_o for_o the_o dead_a as_o they_o vaunt_v then selue_o to_o do_v in_o their_o mass_n say_v that_o they_o be_v as_o it_o be_v the_o mouth_z of_o the_o whole_a church_n by_o the_o which_o all_o the_o body_n of_o the_o same_o and_o all_o her_o member_n be_v nourish_v spiritual_o chapter_n xuj_o of_o the_o mass_n which_o be_v celebrate_v in_o the_o honour_n of_o man_n saint_n &_o woman_n saint_n &_o which_o bear_v their_o name_n and_o of_o the_o application_n of_o they_o to_o all_o thing_n &_o what_o fruit_n the_o mass_n for_o the_o dead_a may_v bring_v unto_o they_o although_o indeed_o the_o invention_n of_o the_o roman_a purgatory_n be_v certain_a and_o on_o the_o other_o side_n â—â—und_n i_o ask_v they_o what_o need_n have_v they_o to_o sacrifice_n or_o to_o communicate_v for_o the_o saint_n which_o be_v already_o in_o paradise_n for_o what_o need_n have_v they_o so_o to_o do_v now_o if_o they_o say_v that_o they_o do_v it_o in_o their_o praise_n and_o for_o their_o remembrance_n i_o answer_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v not_o ordain_v his_o supper_n answer_n either_o in_o the_o remembrance_n or_o in_o the_o praise_n of_o any_o other_o then_o of_o himself_o &_o for_o to_o yield_v thanks_n unto_o god_n for_o his_o benefit_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v not_o ordain_v any_o supper_n either_o of_o s._n peter_n â—ote_n or_o s._n paul_n or_o s._n john_n nor_o of_o any_o of_o the_o angel_n nor_o of_o any_o man_n saint_n or_o woman_n saint_n be_v they_o either_o dead_a or_o live_a but_o do_v ordain_v only_o one_o which_o be_v the_o supper_n of_o jesus_n christ_n wherefore_o man_n may_v not_o say_v the_o like_a of_o the_o roman_a mass_n of_o the_o which_o
very_a table_n our_o strife_n be_v end_v for_o we_o will_v never_o strive_v against_o the_o troth_n when_o they_o shall_v make_v it_o appear_v unto_o we_o by_o good_a and_o sure_a testimony_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o which_o be_v reveil_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o scripture_n but_o if_o they_o can_v show_v the_o same_o unto_o we_o by_o this_o mean_a and_o that_o we_o be_v able_a to_o show_v they_o the_o contrary_a by_o the_o same_o mean_v which_o we_o require_v of_o they_o to_o wit_n that_o the_o mass_n such_o as_o it_o be_v at_o this_o day_n be_v not_o only_o not_o the_o very_a table_n and_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n but_o be_v whole_o contrary_a to_o the_o same_o we_o beseech_v they_o that_o they_o will_v not_o resist_v the_o manifest_a truth_n but_o that_o they_o give_v glory_n to_o god_n and_o do_v suffer_v that_o their_o mass_n be_v so_o reform_v according_a to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o jesus_n christ_n that_o as_o it_o have_v be_v pervert_v into_o the_o same_o even_o so_o the_o same_o may_v be_v restore_v again_o to_o the_o true_a form_n which_o he_o give_v to_o his_o holy_a supper_n and_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o then_o when_o that_o shall_v be_v do_v which_o be_v so_o just_a and_o reasonable_a that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o all_o the_o controversy_n shall_v be_v end_v and_o they_o shall_v be_v no_o more_o divide_v nor_o band_v the_o one_o against_o the_o other_o for_o the_o supper_n and_o for_o the_o mass_n wherein_o every_o man_n may_v judge_v whether_o we_o demand_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o very_o just_a and_o very_o reasonable_a and_o whether_o they_o may_v just_o refuse_v the_o same_o it_o rest_v yet_o that_o i_o do_v declare_v the_o principal_a reason_n which_o do_v hinder_v we_o from_o the_o accept_n of_o the_o mass_n such_o as_o they_o do_v set_v forth_o unto_o we_o for_o the_o true_a supper_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o for_o what_o cause_n we_o may_v in_o no_o wise_n receive_v nor_o accept_v the_o same_o but_o be_v constrain_v to_o reject_v it_o as_o a_o thing_n which_o can_v agree_v with_o the_o true_a christian_a religion_n if_o there_o be_v not_o such_o reformation_n that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o that_o which_o it_o be_v at_o this_o present_a but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o true_a supper_n of_o the_o lord_n such_o as_o it_o be_v set_v forth_o unto_o we_o by_o the_o evangelist_n and_o the_o apostle_n who_o be_v sure_a and_o true_a witness_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o of_o the_o ordinance_n and_o work_n of_o jesus_n christ_n their_o master_n who_o do_v choose_v and_o call_v they_o to_o that_o office_n chapter_n seven_o of_o those_o which_o will_v allow_v the_o mass_n by_o the_o good_a and_o fair_a word_n take_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o same_o and_o what_o judgement_n and_o consideration_n be_v meet_v to_o be_v have_v of_o the_o same_o but_o before_o that_o i_o do_v expound_v these_o reason_n thorough_o i_o will_v yet_o touch_v one_o point_n concern_v that_o which_o have_v be_v speak_v of_o the_o good_a and_o holy_a word_n which_o be_v in_o the_o mass_n i_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o it_o be_v so_o but_o i_o do_v answer_v further_o 〈◊〉_d that_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o have_v good_a word_n take_v out_o of_o holy_a letter_n except_o they_o be_v well_o apply_v to_o their_o true_a use_n and_o to_o that_o end_n whereunto_o they_o ought_v to_o serve_v for_o if_o it_o be_v not_o so_o a_o man_n may_v by_o the_o like_a reason_n allow_v not_o only_o the_o charm_n and_o enchantment_n of_o charmer_n sorcerer_n and_o enchanter_n but_o also_o the_o koran_n of_o mahomet_n and_o the_o doctrine_n in_o manner_n of_o all_o the_o heretic_n for_o there_o be_v many_o good_a &_o fair_a word_n take_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o fair_a name_n of_o god_n and_o of_o jesus_n christ_n our_o lord_n and_o if_o the_o cross_n may_v serve_v to_o the_o holiness_n of_o the_o thing_n with_o the_o word_n they_o have_v ordinary_o many_o in_o charm_n &_o enchantment_n it_o be_v not_o enough_o then_o to_o have_v such_o word_n instruâ—â—tion_n if_o the_o right_a use_n of_o they_o be_v not_o have_v with_o they_o and_o further_o it_o must_v be_v see_v whether_o there_o be_v any_o thing_n mingle_v with_o they_o which_o do_v corrupt_v they_o as_o do_v poison_n good_a meat_n which_o otherwise_o be_v of_o itself_o good_a for_o there_o need_v no_o great_a quantity_n of_o poison_n to_o corrupt_v the_o best_a meat_n of_o the_o world_n and_o the_o better_a that_o the_o meat_n be_v the_o more_o dangerous_a be_v the_o poison_n which_o be_v hide_v under_o the_o same_o for_o so_o much_o as_o it_o be_v very_o hard_a to_o discover_v it_o and_o that_o man_n be_v the_o more_o provoke_v to_o take_v it_o wherefore_o so_o far_o of_o be_v it_o from_o let_v the_o poison_n to_o be_v any_o more_o poison_n that_o it_o make_v it_o more_o dangerous_a &_o more_o mortal_a if_o that_o the_o poison_n be_v not_o expel_v by_o a_o contrapoyson_v it_o be_v not_o then_o altogether_o to_o see_v if_o there_o be_v fair_a and_o good_a word_n in_o the_o mass_n take_v of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o we_o must_v yet_o consider_v whether_o there_o be_v any_o poison_n false_a doctrine_n and_o man_n tradition_n mix_v with_o they_o and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o a_o man_n may_v profit_v nothing_o at_o all_o by_o it_o but_o may_v be_v hurt_v thereby_o if_o the_o same_o poison_n be_v not_o take_v away_o and_o expel_v by_o his_o contrapoyson_v the_o which_o can_v not_o be_v take_v but_o of_o the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o the_o controversy_n upon_o the_o which_o we_o be_v at_o this_o present_a rest_v yet_o in_o this_o to_o wit_n whether_o all_o the_o meat_n which_o be_v set_v forth_o to_o we_o in_o the_o mass_n be_v whole_o good_a or_o whether_o there_o be_v poison_v mix_v with_o the_o same_o if_o it_o be_v all_o good_a then_o may_v there_o none_o of_o it_o be_v reject_v if_o there_o be_v poison_n no_o man_n may_v receive_v it_o without_o danger_n and_o peril_n chapter_n viij_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o thing_n in_o the_o mass_n other_o then_o good_a word_n and_o whether_o those_o good_a word_n which_o be_v in_o it_o be_v well_o apply_v and_o whether_o that_o for_o those_o good_a word_n the_o mass_n ought_v to_o be_v account_v good_a and_o even_o as_o good_a meat_n do_v not_o let_v but_o that_o poison_n be_v always_o poison_n and_o make_v it_o more_o hurtful_a even_o so_o the_o good_a and_o holy_a word_n do_v not_o let_v at_o all_o but_o that_o god_n be_v dishonour_v in_o they_o when_o man_n do_v abuse_v they_o note_v for_o the_o more_o holy_a &_o bless_v that_o a_o thing_n be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o be_v the_o abuse_n thereof_o detestable_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n &_o so_o much_o the_o more_o be_v he_o dishonour_v for_o so_o much_o as_o his_o holy_a name_n be_v there_o the_o more_o profane_v by_o mean_v whereof_o so_o far_o of_o be_v it_o that_o the_o charm_n and_o enchantment_n be_v the_o better_a because_o of_o the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o of_o jesus_n christ_n &_o of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o of_o man_n and_o woman_n saint_n &_o of_o the_o good_a word_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o may_v be_v in_o they_o that_o they_o be_v in_o deed_n so_o much_o the_o more_o execrable_a and_o curse_a for_o see_v that_o the_o thing_n of_o itself_o be_v evil_a it_o be_v yet_o make_v much_o worse_o when_o that_o which_o shall_v serve_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n be_v there_o apply_v to_o his_o dishonour_n wherefore_o it_o be_v like_a to_o blasphemy_n for_o when_o man_n do_v blaspheme_v god_n they_o do_v take_v his_o name_n in_o their_o mouth_n similitude_n but_o he_o be_v more_o dishonour_v by_o that_o mean_v then_o though_o they_o do_v whole_o abstain_v from_o name_v he_o for_o they_o do_v not_o use_v it_o at_o all_o as_o they_o do_v which_o take_v it_o in_o their_o mouth_n to_o call_v upon_o god_n and_o to_o sanctify_v he_o but_o do_v abuse_v it_o not_o only_o take_v it_o in_o vain_a but_o also_o villainous_o profane_v and_o pollute_v the_o same_o therefore_o irenee_n say_v 1._o that_o the_o heretic_n and_o consequent_o all_o those_o which_o abuse_v the_o holy_a scripture_n do_v with_o they_o even_o as_o when_o a_o excellent_a workman_n shall_v make_v the_o image_n of_o a_o king_n very_o fair_a and_o of_o fine_a gold_n and_o well_o furnish_v with_o all_o fort_n of_o precious_a stone_n and_o there_o do_v come_v a_o evil_a workman_n which_o shall_v take_v the_o same_o matter_n and_o shall_v make_v thereof_o either_o a_o dog_n or_o a_o ape_n or_o some_o other_o beast_n or_o
sâ—uer_n before_o it_o be_v stamp_v and_o that_o that_o it_o be_v aftâ—â—_n the_o coin_v thereof_o have_v imprint_v in_o it_o 〈◊〉_d mark_v of_o the_o prince_n the_o which_o give_v unto_o it_o his_o estimation_n and_o value_n it_o have_v also_o like_o difference_n as_o have_v the_o wax_n othâ—â—_n whereof_o man_n make_v a_o â—eale_v before_o it_o be_v print_v and_o after_o that_o it_o be_v print_v have_v receive_v the_o form_n by_o the_o impression_n of_o the_o seal_n it_o be_v then_o no_o more_o simple_a wax_n as_o before_o but_o the_o true_a seal_n of_o the_o prince_n for_o that_o cause_n the_o rod_n the_o which_o moses_n hold_v â—n_z his_o hand_n 3._o keep_v the_o sheep_n of_o jethro_n his_o father_n in_o law_n when_o god_n appear_v unto_o he_o in_o â—he_n bush_n be_v afterward_o call_v the_o rod_n of_o god_n when_o god_n have_v command_v he_o to_o use_v the_o same_o â—n_n his_o ministry_n and_o in_o the_o miraculous_a work_n which_o be_v do_v by_o the_o same_o 13._o and_o in_o this_o sort_n must_v we_o understand_v that_o which_o saint_n augustineâ—aid_v â—aid_z speak_v of_o baptism_n the_o word_n be_v join_v â—o_o the_o element_n and_o it_o be_v make_v a_o sacrament_n he_o â—nderstandeth_v by_o the_o element_n the_o water_n of_o baptism_n the_o which_o be_v dedicate_v to_o be_v the_o sign_n â—hereof_o by_o the_o word_n which_o be_v join_v unto_o it_o â—he_z which_o be_v not_o join_v unto_o it_o but_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o those_o unto_o who_o it_o belong_v and_o â—o_o understand_v by_o the_o same_o to_o what_o end_v it_o be_v â—â—yned_v to_o the_o sign_n note_n and_o albeit_o that_o the_o liâ—e_z child_n can_v not_o understand_v it_o in_o their_o baptism_n as_o those_o which_o be_v of_o great_a age_n do_v yet_o â—or_a all_o that_o the_o same_o be_v not_o wrong_v apply_v in_o â—s_n much_o as_o it_o may_v be_v understand_v as_o well_o by_o â—â—eir_n godfather_n and_o godmother_n as_o by_o those_o which_o do_v present_v they_o and_o assist_v at_o theiâ—_z baptism_n for_o so_o much_o as_o it_o be_v not_o found_v onelâ—_n upon_o the_o person_n of_o the_o infant_n and_o upon_o theiâ—_z faith_n but_o also_o upon_o the_o faith_n of_o their_o godfather_n and_o godmother_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n iâ—_z as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o alliance_n that_o god_n have_v make_v with_o the_o faithful_a because_o hâ—_z have_v also_o comprehend_v in_o the_o same_o their_o child_n say_v that_o he_o will_v be_v their_o god_n and_o thâ—_z god_n of_o their_o child_n 13._o wherefore_o see_v that_o baptism_n be_v the_o sacrament_n thereof_o in_o the_o christiaâ—_n church_n as_o the_o circumcision_n be_v in_o thâ—_z church_n of_o israel_n the_o child_n of_o the_o christianâ—_n be_v no_o less_o capable_a of_o baptism_n they_o be_v thosâ—_n of_o the_o jew_n of_o circumcision_n forsomuch_o as_o therâ—_n be_v one_o very_a foundation_n and_o one_o very_a reason_n iâ—_z they_o both_o touch_v this_o point_n and_o therefore_o such_o be_v the_o consecration_n which_o be_v do_v to_o thâ—_z water_n in_o baptism_n whereby_o the_o same_o be_v consecrate_v to_o that_o use_n note_n we_o then_o see_v here_o how_o that_o the_o word_n whereupon_o the_o same_o be_v ground_v have_v aswell_o relation_n to_o the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n accord_v to_o the_o testimony_n of_o saint_n augustine_n as_o hauâ—_n those_o of_o the_o supper_n to_o the_o bread_n &_o to_o the_o wine_n iâ—_z sort_n that_o the_o water_n be_v no_o less_o consecrate_v by_o thiâ—_z mean_v to_o be_v the_o sign_n of_o baptism_n then_o be_v thâ—_z bread_n &_o the_o wine_n in_o the_o supper_n to_o be_v sign_n thereof_o for_o a_o man_n may_v say_v in_o very_a troth_n thereof_o thâ—_z â—ame_n that_o saint_n augustine_n have_v say_v of_o the_o waâ—er_n of_o baptism_n for_o there_o be_v like_a reason_n in_o both_o â—n_o as_o much_o as_o there_o be_v none_o other_o mean_a wherry_n the_o matter_n which_o be_v take_v to_o be_v the_o sign_n â—f_n the_o sacrament_n may_v be_v dedicate_v and_o consecrate_v to_o that_o use_n otherwise_o then_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n whereof_o they_o be_v sign_n and_o sacrament_n behold_v here_o then_o that_o which_o the_o ancient_n do_v â—all_n here_o proper_o consecration_n chapter_n xviii_o of_o the_o change_n and_o conversion_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o sacrament_n into_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o they_o according_a to_o the_o usage_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o of_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o same_o and_o when_o they_o speak_v of_o the_o change_n &_o conversion_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o sacrament_n into_o â—he_n thing_n which_o they_o do_v signify_v they_o do_v understand_v this_o change_n of_o the_o usage_n of_o they_o this_o for_o the_o which_o cause_n they_o do_v also_o change_v their_o name_n take_v the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n which_o they_o signify_v in_o contemplation_n and_o in_o respect_n of_o this_o change_n of_o the_o use_n and_o not_o at_o all_o of_o the_o change_n of_o one_o substance_n into_o a_o other_o to_o wit_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sign_n into_o that_o of_o the_o thing_n which_o they_o do_v signify_v for_o if_o there_o be_v such_o 〈◊〉_d change_v of_o substance_n by_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o sacramental_a word_n and_o of_o the_o consecration_n oâ—_n the_o sign_n it_o shall_v necessary_o then_o come_v tâ—_n pass_v that_o the_o same_o shall_v be_v in_o all_o sacrament_n 〈◊〉_d not_o more_o in_o the_o one_o then_o in_o the_o other_o forsâ—â—_n much_o as_o there_o be_v none_o at_o all_o that_o may_v be_v sacrament_n without_o consecration_n and_o without_o sacramental_a word_n and_o they_o have_v all_o this_o commoâ—_n together_o and_o the_o like_a reason_n be_v in_o they_o all_o concern_v this_o point_n â—ote_n wherefore_o the_o roman_a transsubstantiator_n have_v no_o ground_n of_o reason_n to_o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v more_o transsubstanciatiâ—â—_n in_o the_o supper_n by_o change_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o thâ—_z sign_n into_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o the_o virtue_n oâ—_n the_o consecration_n and_o of_o the_o sacramental_a word_n then_o in_o all_o the_o other_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o if_o they_o will_v that_o we_o shall_v believe_v they_o theâ—_z must_v then_o prove_v their_o say_n by_o other_o testimony_n than_o themselves_o for_o so_o much_o as_o they_o doâ—_n overthrow_v the_o whole_a nature_n of_o sacrament_n by_o their_o doctrine_n for_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n oâ—_n the_o supper_n can_v not_o be_v make_v the_o sign_n there_o of_o but_o only_o by_o the_o virtue_n of_o their_o consecration_n and_o of_o the_o sacramental_a word_n by_o the_o which_o they_o be_v consecrate_v to_o that_o use_n for_o as_o we_o hauâ—_n already_o hear_v by_o saint_n augustine_n the_o wordâ—_n must_v be_v always_o join_v to_o the_o element_n beforâ—_n that_o it_o may_v be_v make_v a_o sacrament_n now_o it_o be_v therâ—_n then_o join_v when_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n whicâ—_z be_v take_v of_o the_o element_n of_o this_o world_n be_v apply_v to_o the_o use_n of_o the_o supper_n and_o this_o application_n be_v make_v by_o the_o consecration_n and_o by_o the_o sacramental_a word_n when_o they_o be_v pronounce_v and_o declare_v in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o supper_n in_o the_o same_o sort_n as_o jesus_n christ_n do_v pronounce_v and_o declare_v they_o and_o command_v the_o same_o to_o be_v do_v according_a to_o his_o example_n behold_v then_o here_o all_o the_o conversion_n and_o all_o the_o transubstantiation_n which_o may_v be_v in_o the_o supper_n aswell_o as_o in_o the_o other_o sacrament_n chapter_n nineteeen_o whether_o every_o change_n carry_v with_o it_o conversion_n of_o one_o substance_n into_o another_o and_o what_o difference_n there_o be_v between_o change_n and_o transubstantiation_n and_o of_o the_o double_a change_n of_o the_o sign_n which_o shall_v be_v require_v in_o the_o supper_n if_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transsubstanciation_n be_v true_a and_o therefore_o when_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n do_v speak_v of_o change_n and_o conversion_n of_o the_o sign_n into_o the_o same_o they_o understand_v none_o other_o as_o i_o have_v show_v and_o prove_v very_o plain_o and_o by_o good_a testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n then selue_o in_o other_o treatise_n of_o i_o for_o every_o change_n and_o every_o conversion_n of_o one_o thing_n into_o a_o other_o carry_v not_o with_o it_o at_o all_o transubstantiation_n of_o one_o substance_n into_o a_o other_o for_o there_o may_v be_v change_n without_o conversion_n of_o substance_n but_o conversion_n of_o substance_n can_v not_o be_v without_o change_n we_o may_v then_o say_v that_o wherâ—_n there_o be_v transubstantiation_n by_o conversion_n of_o substance_n there_o be_v there_o change_n but_o there_o be_v not_o always_o transubstantiation_n and_o conversion_n