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see_v here_o that_o you_o have_v not_o lose_v the_o knot_n but_o cut_v it_o for_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n object_v the_o place_n of_o esay_n 30._o and_o you_o object_v again_o the_o place_n of_o deuteronomy_n and_o of_o the_o judge_n this_o be_v to_o oppose_v sword_n against_o sword_n in_o stead_n that_o you_o shall_v have_v first_o hold_v out_o your_o buckler_n and_o latch_v the_o blow_n of_o your_o adversary_n as_o for_o church_n it_o have_v be_v answer_v that_o they_o have_v a_o profitable_a use_n and_o therefore_o very_o evil_o compare_v with_o the_o surplis_n which_o beside_o that_o it_o bring_v no_o profit_n hurt_v also_o as_o be_v before_o say_v io._n whitgifte_n that_o wood_n that_o gold_n and_o that_o ox_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o so_o necessary_a but_o that_o both_o god_n may_v have_v be_v serve_v and_o the_o temple_n build_v without_o they_o and_o therefore_o that_o be_v no_o answer_n honour_n thing_n dedicate_v to_o idol_n may_v be_v convert_v to_o god_n 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the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n and_o other_o holy_a action_n etc._n etc._n t._n c._n page_n 57_o sect._n ult._n to_o be_v short_a say_v m._n doctor_n when_o he_o recite_v i_o almost_o a_o whole_a side_n word_n for_o word_n as_o he_o have_v cite_v before_o where_o he_o have_v have_v his_o answer_n io._n whitgifte_n sure_o this_o jest_a spirit_n be_v never_o in_o any_o of_o the_o apostle_n or_o martyr_n of_o christ_n church_n that_o i_o can_v read_v but_o to_o pass_v it_o over_o m._n doctor_n short_a be_v very_o short_o answer_v the_o cause_n whereof_o i_o refer_v to_o the_o reader_n howsoever_o you_o jest_v out_o the_o matter_n you_o have_v neither_o answer_v m._n doctor_n to_o be_v short_a nor_o that_o which_o be_v translate_v chap._n 7._o the_o three_o division_n admonition_n they_o serve_v not_o to_o edification_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 238._o sect._n 3_o you_o say_v also_o that_o they_o do_v not_o edify_v if_o you_o say_v that_o they_o do_v not_o edify_v edification_n 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c._n pag._n 57_o sect._n ult._n after_o this_o he_o set_v himself_o to_o prove_v that_o they_o do_v edify_v and_o that_o first_o by_o m._n bucers_n and_o m._n martyr_n authority_n and_o yet_o in_o their_o word_n before_o allege_v there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o edify_v if_o he_o gather_v it_o of_o their_o word_n the_o answer_n be_v already_o make_v io._n whitgifte_n i_o tell_v you_o it_o be_v in_o their_o epistle_n not_o in_o their_o word_n before_o allege_v m._n bucers_n word_n bucer_n bucer_n be_v these_o now_o if_o any_o church_n judge_v and_o have_v experience_n such_o as_o i_o doubt_v not_o there_o be_v many_o at_o these_o day_n in_o germany_n that_o the_o use_n of_o such_o vesture_n bring_v some_o commendation_n to_o the_o holy_a
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there_o be_v no_o abuse_n of_o magnificat_fw-la as_o yet_o show_v but_o there_o be_v a_o very_a unlearned_a reason_n in_o the_o admonition_n put_v why_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v use_v to_o the_o answer_n whereof_o you_o have_v not_o reply_v and_o therefore_o i_o may_v just_o say_v of_o their_o correct_v of_o magnificat_fw-la that_o which_o i_o have_v say_v and_o the_o proverb_n be_v meet_v for_o such_o unskilful_a person_n but_o your_o childish_a or_o rather_o profane_a jest_n and_o scoff_n be_v not_o seem_n for_o a_o divine_a and_o he_o that_o will_v he_o count_v so_o great_o learn_v and_o mortify_v chap._n 2._o the._n 17._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 108._o sect._n 3_o as_o these_o be_v diverse_a thing_n more_o than_o aught_o to_o be_v convenient_o so_o want_v there_o some_o thing_n in_o the_o prayer_n there_o be_v prayer_n set_v forth_o to_o be_v say_v in_o the_o common_a calamity_n &_o universal_a scourge_n of_o the_o realm_n as_o plague_v famine_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o deed_n 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