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A09101 A discouerie of I. Nicols minister, misreported a Iesuite, latelye recanted in the Tower of London Wherin besides the declaration of the man, is contayned a ful answere to his recantation, with a confutation of his slaunders, and proofe of the contraries, in the Pope, cardinals, clergie, students, and priuate men of Rome. There is also added a reproofe of an oratiuon and sermon, falsely presented by the sayd Nicols to be made in Rome, and presented to the Pope in his consistorye. Wherto is annexed a late information from Rome touchng [sic] the aute[n]tical copie of Nicols recantation. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1581 (1581) STC 19402; ESTC S120349 83,096 196

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lacke of successiō for they might wel haue denied his ordinarie vocation for y● want séeinge they had an expresse lawe from God Nu. 1.4.8 that none should be préest but of the Tribe of Leuie wherof Christ was not but of Iuda But the Iews sinn was in reiecting Christs extraordinary vocatiō which was prophecied to thē by Moises before that it should be as his was Deut. 18. and which Christ did now proue by many euident supernatural miracles and yet they would not receue him This Christ him selfe testifieth sayinge Ioh. 15. If I had not done the works among them which noe other man hath done they had no sinne And againe Ioh. 14. Beleeue me for my workes sake And againe If I doe not the works of my father that is supernatural works beleeue me not but if I doe them then if you wil not beleue me beleue my works Ioh. 10. Againe Luc. 7. when Iohn Baptist did send to Christ to know whether he was the true Messias or noe he wrought miracles only in their sight and bidd them tell Iohn Baptist what they had séene and harde signifying that that was a sufficient testimonye Extraordinari vocation not to be admitted without miracles and without that he were not to be beléeued The like he hathe shewed in all those that euer he sente besides him selfe to reforme or instructe the people by extraordinarie vocation without succession as in Moyses Aron and all the Prophetes the Apostels also and diuers other after them as Anthonie Hillarion Benedict Dominicke Francis and others which being noe pastors by successiō wer sent extraordinarily for the help of the Church but their vocatiō was declared by euident miracles And soe also must ●ur new pastors and prelates shew their extraordinarie vocation by euident miracles séeing they can not plead ordinare succession or Canonical ordination excepte they will challenge more vnto them selues then the very sonne of God whoe required not to be admitted as I haue shewed but only vppon that testimonye concurringe together with the Scriptures which spake of him Nether is that drye shifte of Philipe of Mornay or rather childishe euasion to be admitted where he saythe that it is a sufficient miracle for the protestantes that one poore friar Luther hath made so great an alteration in the world A straung miracle whereby the protestāts proue their vocation in soe few yeares and so many thowsand men haue forsakē their old religion vpon the onely blaste of his mouth This I say is very ridiculous and worthy of such a deuine as he was For by this argument Arrius Donatus Manicheus Pelagius aboue al other Mahomet wrought verye greate miracles and proued their vocations substantiallye because they drew from the trueth so many thowsand men to followe their errours Nay rather it is an euident argument that Luther was a wicked deceauer preaching plausible doctrine to itching eares 2. Tim. 4. For you shall neuer finde since their was any orderly forme of a Church and eccl●siasticall gouernement in the same that ether such as were sent extraordinarily to reforme it had soe greate rushinge of people vnto them for that their doctrine was vnpleasant in reprehendinge mens vices or that they withdrew those few which folowed them from the obedience of their former pastours Note this o●seruation ruling them by right of succession as Luther did though those former pastours wer neuer so wicked in life Nay more Christ himselfe which came to plant a new law and new pastours also and to remoue from there places the scribes and pharises yet for the litle time they had to endure which was vntil after the new testament was sealed with his bloode Math. 8. Marc. 1. Luc. 5. he taught obedience to the saide Pharasies as maye appeare by sending the leapers vnto them and by charginge all men to doe as they commaunded Math. 23. And this is greatly to be noted as a very plaine detection of our aduersaries Fifthely Nicols obiectethe that the Iewes bragged of succession from their father Abraham and yet Christ saith they were of the deuill soe diuers that came to their bishoprickes by succession Ihon. 8. were her●tiques after as Nestorius and Samosate●us But all this as the other is quite from the matter For we graunte as I saide before that those which succéede in good mens places may alter and become wicked and playe also the heretiques or apostatas But that religion which hath come downe by succession from the beginning as ours hath done can not be false nor that religion which raiseth it selfe against the same without succession and the other markes before recited as al heresies haue done cannot be true Lastly he obiecteth that we by this succession of the sea of Rome doe tye our religion to one place and prouince Which is not so but it is his his felowes gross error in mistakinge vs. For albeit we hould the Bishop of Rome as successor of S. Péeter to be the only supreme pastor of al christianitie yet is it not necessarie that he shoulde be in Rome or any way tyed vnto that citie but i● that whol citie were distroyed desolate and waste and all Europe besides in the possession of our enemies as it was in ould times of persecuting Emperors yet mighte ther a man be chosen to that dignitie and bishopricke in Aegipte Asia or India and should be asmuch Bishop of Rome and haue as great authoritie as hee that sittethe there nowe and hys faythe be called the Romane faith were h●e neuer soe poore or meane a prieste of anye other countrye In his bad aunswere t● Howlet Wherfore we doe not make oure Catholique religion locall or of one prouince as besides Ihon Nicols the peart master of penbrooke Haull very vndocterly affirmeth I might heere add a pleasant obiection of Ihon Nicols which he vrgeth in great earnest against succession that is that the Turke at this daye possesseth fower Patriarkcal sées by succession and that Antichrist in the ende of the world shal cō● to his tirannicall authoritie by succession cet Which is as true as that his religion commeth from Christ and his Apostles by succession What righte the Turke hathe to the fower Patriarchall sées Antechrist to the rule of the world by succession the same hath his religion and her prelates to the gouernmente of Christian people And thus I haue aunswered all that they obiect against the first thrée markes of the true church For against that fowerth which is vnitie they say nothing nor can they bring any excuse of their owne discord but only that we haue sectes among vs also as Benedictins Varietie of religious orders noe sectes in the Cotholique Church Dominicans Franciscans other orders of religion Which is as absurd an illation as you haue in your bodye fingers toes eares like partes therfore you haue distincte bodyes and are a monster For as