to require that of them that S. Paule doth assure himselfe that he shal find in them namely that they are so filled with all knowledge that they can admonish one an other Yea this knowledg is so necessary for all Christians that Saint Paule alwaies wisheth it to be in such as he writeth vnto and prayeth that they may haue it But séeing this hope that is in vs is grounded vpon the word for otherwise it is but a foolsh fancy and no sound hope the knowledge whereby wee must be made able to aunswer of the same must be the knowledge of Gods worde Yea whatsoeuer besides that we doe know it may perchaunce some way satisfie our humour and serue for some turnes but this one knowledge is that onelie that is necessary and without which we cannot but erre as Saint Marke himselfe reporteth vnto vs that Christ told the Iewes Doe you not erre because you know not the Scriptures So that we sée that the auncient doctrine of the Church of Rome was this That to knowe Gods word is the meanes or power whereby God saueth vs and the séede of euerlasting life And therfore as the knowledge thereof is comfortable and profitable so to be ignorant thereof is very dangerous for any Christian man or woman But the now Romish Church doth not onely suffer without any publike shewing of their mislike the sacred Scriptures and Gods written worde to be most reprochfully disgraced and blasphemously scorned at by comparing it to a leaden rule a nose of wax Inkye diuinitie and with such like prophane and godlesse scornes but also they teach that that word of trueth wherewith Saint Iames saith God hath begotten vs is doubtfull and may be wrested any way it is not sufficient to teach vs all trueth without the helpe of traditions it is harde to be vnderstoode and therefore the people must not reade it And that it is best for the people to be ignorant still for ignorance is the mother of deuotion So that we see the auncient Church of Rome commended vnto vs Gods word as most necessary for Christians the now Church of Rome condemneth the same not as needlesse onely but euen as hurtfull and dangerous They hated ignorance as a sworne enemy to Christianitie these reuerence her as a fruitfull and the onely mother of popery Therefore the olde faith of the Romans and the newe Romish religion are in this nothing like And yet there is not any greater disgrace that they can lay vpon this powerfull worde then that which blasphemously they affirme and prophanely maintaine that eùen this power of GOD and immortall seede hath no power at all or authoritie vnlesse the Church authorize the same As though this power of God that it may be powerfull must receiue power from man and this seede that GOD that sower went forth to sowe cannot growe vnlesse man giue it increase CHAP. III. THere is also in these daies great question what is Gods word that is to say what that word is that should be the rule of religion and conuersation For the which the old religion of Rome was this That in any wise they should take héede of such as make diuision and giue occasion of euill contrarye to that doctrine which they had learned And S. Paule prayeth that they may be Confirmed according to his gospel and preaching of Iesus Christ As for other worde then that hee did teach or other gospell then that he did preach as he héere teacheth the Romans that they ought not to beléeue so he flatly writeth to the Galathians that If he or an Angell from heauen preach any other gospell they shoulde be so farre from receiuing it that they shoulde hold him accursed that bringeth it And S. Peter commending the worde whereby men by their sinfull nature mortall are made immortall poynting vnto that word sheweth what it is And this is saith he the word which by the gospell is preached vnto you And in the end of this his first epistle he protesteth This is the true grace of God wherein ye stand That is to say this faith or religion that you haue béene taught this doctrine of the gospell which you haue learned is the true faith the true religion a true doctrine For so do Claudius Guilliandus and Iac. Faber no enemies to popery expound it Then by the old faith of Rome we sée that that which they then preached and that which was agréeably to that rule is the truth euen that which was then Depositum committed or taught not any thing that should be afterward committed to them or taught And this is in trueth that old worde of God which was then acknowledged for Gods word and had not any beginning from later times this is in déed an auncient religion Which was promised before by the Prophets in the holy Scriptures But the now Romish faith cannot abide this doctrine And therfore our new M. of Rome haue decreed that al the books of the old and new testament as wel the Apocrypha as Canonical and also the traditions themselues concerning faith or maners shal with like affection bee beleeued and with like reuerence receiued Yea they are not ashamed to teach that these their traditions are more necessary and profitable then Gods word We see then that the old religion of Rome taught both by Peter and Paule is to rest in that worde that then was taught without adding thereto The Romish religion that now is doth arrogate vnto themselues alwaies to adde as they see cause which their additions are nothing else but an augmenting of the heapes of their superstitions whereas August Hierom. others appoint the listes and limites of Gods word to be the Law the Prophets the Euangelistes and Apostles CHAP. IIII. THen let vs come to the question of iustification which is y e very summe of true Christian diuinity And it is the intent and purpose of the Apostle in the Epistle to the Romans most exactly to teach the same For when the good séed of our frée iustification in and for Christ was sowen in the ground of their harts then came the enuious man and sought to sowe sundry sorts of bad wéeds there also For some there were that were altogether enemies to the gospell of Christ as were the obstinate Iewes who could not abide to heare of this saluation by Christ Others beléeued in part the gospell but thought yet that the ceremonies which God commanded not knowing that they were appointed but vntill the time of reformation should come should not be abrogated and therefore would mingle the Law with the gospell Who also looked to be iustified by the Law and the works therof because it was promised Hee that doth these things shall liue thereby There were also a third sort perchance namely such as were conuerted from Gentilisme that being proud of that grace that was broght
A Comparison betweene the auncient fayth of the Romans and the new Romish Religion Set foorth by Frauncis Bunny sometime fellowe of Magdalen College in Oxforde MATTHEW 15. 13. Euerie plant which my heauenly Father hath not planted shalbe rooted vp Printed by Robert Robinson for Raph Jackeson 1595. To the Right Honourable my verie good Ladie Katheren Countise of Huntingdon Frauncis Bunny wisheth increase of honour here and euerlasting life elsewhere * ⎠* IF trueth shame not more of anie thing then when she is hid as Tertullian truely writeth then it behooueth her friends to do her that fauor that by all meanes possible they will earnestly indeuor to bring her to light that shee may be seene of them that seeke her and knowen of them that loue her And although this may perchance seeme a hard attempt in these our dayes wherein falsehoode maketh so fayre a shew and hath so great appearaunce of that it is not and euery man claimeth to the trueth be their doctrines neuer so diuers yet since God hath giuen vs meanes to driue awaye those thicke cloudes of errour and ignoraunce that the sunne of trueth may shine vnto the worlde I haue indeuoured in this short treatise to take away that colourable shewe of trueth from the Church of Rome that the vndoubted trueth of the Church of Christ may the better appeare For we haue a touchstone the word of God that cannot lye a rule that cannot deceaue by which whatsoeuer we trie and examine it wil soone bee seene whether it bee true or false Truth also is a thing that is auncient and hath bin alwayes sayth Tertullian and like the good corne that was first sowen but errour is that bad seed which was cast after into that field by the enuious man Seeing therefore that is true that was first and what so euer commeth after is false howe easie a matter is it for such as search to see the light and for them that inquire after her to finde the trueth For if it bee true that the Scriptures teach that onely then al that is not agreable to that truth must needs bee false And if that onely be nowe true which in the Apostles times was true no number of dayes or yeares shall prooue that not to bee false nowe which then was not true Therefore for the benefite of all such as loue the truth I haue in this treatise set downe the doctrine which was first taught and preached at Rome in the Apostles dayes whereof no man doubteth but that it must bee the infallible worde of God and Christian religion Then also I haue added thereunto that which is nowe holden for the Romishe religion and Catholicke fayth there And because these two doe verie much differ as hee that readeth will soone see for indeede they are nothing like and wee are assured that that which Gods worde deliuereth and was first must needes bee currant that which hath no warrant in the worde and commeth after must needes be counterfeite I haue endeuoured to bee short because I hoped it woulde be the more willingly read and the better remembred And for that cause I haue not aunswered the argumentes which the Romish Catholickes vse for defence of their opinions and the rather because it is performed in an other treatise But I trust in this it will appeare that hee that will imbrace the Catholicke Fayth that was then when the faith of the Romans was commended whereof the Papistes make greate bragges must needes detest that Romish fayth that is now and accompt it most blasphemous This little worke I haue beene bold to dedicate vnto your good Ladiship not onely as a discharge of my duetie of thankefulnesse toward your Honour to whome you bounde mee long since by manie vndeserued courtesies but also because that then I knewe your great zeale and feruent desire and loue to the trueth and your Christian care to augment your knowledge of the will of GOD Whereof I nothing doubt but the Lorde hath giuen vnto you great and happie increase To whose abundant mercies in Christ I commit your good Ladishippe alwayes praying that hee will here confirme you in his trueth and continue all his good graces tovvardes you vntill hee shall take you out of this vale of miserie to raigne vvith him in endlesse glorie Amen A Comparison betweene the auncient faith of the Romans and the new Romish Religion set forth by Frauncis Bunny sometime fellow of Magdalen Colledge in Oxford CHAP. I. IT is a daungerous stombling blocke which the Church of Rome hath cast in the waies of the ignorant whereby they are made to fall into the déepe dungeon of Popish heresies and superstitions when they beare the worlde in hand as much as they can that the Apostle in commending the faith of the Romans that then was or rather in testifying that it was published through the world doth approue the faith also that now is there taught True it is that onely they that are starke blind would stumble at that stone for hée that is but halfe sighted may plainely sée that the Apostle speaketh but of the faith of the Romans that then was and doth not promise or prophecy that it should be so alwaies In the beginning God planted true Religion the feare of him in the hearts of men and women but in continuance of time that plant of the Lords own plaining was so ouergrowen with the wéeds of wickednes of life and superstitions seruing of God that it was hardly to be séene emongst men In so much as of the times of Enos it is written as if the world had for a long time forgotten that there is any God that then he began to call vpon the name of the Lord. Yea that which was at the first deliuered from God as a perfect rule of life and written in the heart of man Yet was by the corruption of man so blotted out and by the darknes of our minds so defaced that God was forced as it were to write it a new that it might the better be remembred in the tables of stone Yea and such is the force of our naturall and hereditary infection that we cannot long kéep the truth sincerly deliuered vnto vs without mingling or mangling of the same And therfore Tertulian teacheth vs truly that the trueth must be before heresy euen as the body is before the shadow And he proueth it by that parable of our Sauiour Christ wherin the good séed is said first to be sowen after the â—ares And so concludeth that that doctrine is from the Lord true that is first that which commeth after is false and strange And Ciprian also confirmeth the same when for reformation of any error he teacheth vs to haue recourse to the fountain Which rule of Ciprian S. Augustin also commendeth vnto vs as a very good rule and worthy to be followed And Vincentius Lirinensis in his
their sins they ascribe vnto the Sacraments And that grace which we can finde onely in Christ of whose fulnes we haue all receiued grace for grace they would haue vs to seek for in such visible things as are in truth but pledges of the same Whether saith Cyprian it be Iudas or Paule that baptiseth it is Christ that washeth pardoneth and putteth away sinne And S. Ambrose making a difference between the watering that is by baptisme and the forgiuenesse of sinnes saith that to forgiue sinnes in baptisme and to giue the holy Ghost it belongeth to God only for the spirit hath bin giuen without laying on of hands and the remission of faults without baptisme if we will credit that learned Father Both the good and the bad saith S. Augustine can dip in the water but none but he that is alwayes good can wash the conscience Thus do these agree with the old Romish Faith teaching the outward signe not to giue but to assure vs of the inuisible grace And yet they are not ashamed still to brag that the faith of the Romans was commended by thapostle Although themselues that boast so much thereof as it is easie to see if we compare this auncient Faith with their new deuises do set themselues as sworne enemies to the same to fight against that faith And this I suppose is the effect of that which can be gathered out of these first eight Chapters of this Epistle to the Romans of such things as are in controuersy between vs and the Papists Wherin if they teach that which these Apostles and faithful seruants of God did teach let their doctrine be beleeued But if they haue chaunged that auncient Religion swarued from that old Faith corrupted that worship of God and mingled that pure wine either with the water of their own inuentions or the dregs of Iewish and Heathnish superstitions why do we not detest these deceiuing Doctors as enemies to all truth and hinderers of our eternall saluation CHAP. XII OF the thrée Chapters following I would haue spoken nothing I mean the ix x. and the xi of the Epistle to the Romans but that I think it necessarie out of one principall point of doctrine that is in them handled to note how contrarie to it selfe the doctrine is that the Church of Rome teacheth For out of them it is most plainly and inuincibly gathered that GOD hath predestinate chosen vnto eternal life such as it pleaseth him to take fréely euen in respect of his owne purpose and counsell without any respect vnto good works Which because it is so manifest that themselues are ashamed to denie it I briefly passe ouer without any long confirmation out of the reasons héerin alledged for proofe of the doctrine For Master Bellarmine out of these words When as yet they were not borne or had done any good or euill that the purpose of God might stand not by workes but by the caller it was said to her The elder shall serue the yonger And also out of those The remnant is saued according to the election of grace If of grace not now of workes for then grace were no grace Out of these words I say he concludeth verie plainly and truely not onely that election or predestination is frée but also without any forséeing of the workes that men should do after as his words are And much more pithyly also is this confirmed by the latter end of the last sentence which is with full content left out by the old Translation the Rheimists and the rest of them For although all the Gréek copies but one and the Syrian Translation haue these words But if it be of works then is it now no grace for then work is no more work Yet do they willingly follow the want in the old Translation because the setting of grace against works in such sort as wée sée they are opposed maketh wonderfull strongly against the Popish doctrine of merites But what should I speak of Master Bellarmine Iohn Durey the Scot telleth vs that it is famously holden in all the Vniuersities of the Catholicks That the foreknowledge of merits is not the cause of predestination Although he cannot deny but Pighius was of a contrarie mind And Master Bellarmine indeuoureth in this point to shew his skill to satisfie some that think it cannot be that predestination should be frée if all men haue sufficient help giuen wherby they may be saued And because vpon this sufficient help they establish their merite this is therfore also the summe of that he teacheth that Merites and Predestination may both of them be taught But how he is héerin deceiued his owne words will best declare But in the mean time this is that which Saint Paule did teach and they say that yet they 〈◊〉 that God fréely not hauing regarde to the workes which â—e saw they should doe did chuse a number vpon whom he bestoweth eternall life Which doctrine as it was daungerously impuyned in those dayes of S. Augustine so was it learnedly defended by him in sundry treatises In which it may appeare that the Pelagions then did vse the selfesame obiections against this comfortable doctrine that the papistes now make against the teaching of our free election as that God may same to deale vniustly in that he punisheth the wicked whom he calleth not from their wickednesse Againe that therby all indeuour to liue in Gods feare is taken away vertue is hindred fatall necessity established the doctrine is perilous and such like obiections are reckoned vp of Prosper as also of Hilary who in like manner writing to S. Augustine rehearseth those cauils of the pelagions against this trueth crauing S. Augustine his helpe therein because many as vs saith did much depend vpon the authoritie of men and as Prosper in his Epistle faith they defend their obstinacy by antiquitie alledging that neuer any expounded those places to the Romans after that sorte Which obiections because it is too long to confute in this place I send the reader who is desirous to be further instructed vnto S. Augustine his bookes of the predestination of the Saints which is an aunswere to the two Epistles of Prosper and Hilarie and that other of the vertue of perseuerance and that of predestination and grace which before I spake of Which thing I may I trust be the bolder to doe because these are the slaunders which the pelagians thâ—se knowen and condemned heretickes burthened this doctrine withall and therefore our aduersaries should be ashamed to vse them Now if you long also to know what these heretickes did teach this it is That God foreséeing who should beléeue and continue in that faith did predestinate such to his kingdom Or as S. Augustine saith they taught that God did choose such as he sawe shoulde be holy by the choice of their frée will on the contrary he shewed the election to bée frée without any
to Rome Ierusalem or Compostell in pilgrimage in holy bread holy water palme crosses ashes in haire-cloth in going barefoote in not touching mony in not speaking in bearing in thy bosome a piece of Saint Iohns gospell in Agnus deis or blessed grains hanging about thy neck in a Monks cowle in his bootes and great holines in S. Francis breeches in dead mens skuls and bones in the bloud of hayles many other such like thinges Whereby the true holines whichis the obedience to Gods holy lawes is almost forgotten while men content themselues with this vnholy and trifling trash which for want of better stuffe the Romish Church that now is giueth her fooles in steed of bables to play withall or make them pastime For why may I not accompt and proclaime them for fooles who wil not so much as heare the wisedome of God and will so readely nay so greedely follow such follies of men Or that wil imagine that God who is a spirit and will be worshipped in spirite and trueth can be any thing delighted in such apish toyes well to this ende haue I saide thus much that we may see that wheras the olde faith of the Romans retayned a Christian liberty in the vse of all these thinges to be vsed according to the rule of charitie the new Romish religion bringeth them that beleeue and followe it into a great bondage and subiection to almost all the creatures and make them to esteeme themselues vnholy if moderately without breach of any Lawe of God or offence of brethren with thankesgiuing as God appointeth they vse the same CHAP. XVII AND because the Apostle maketh his praiers and requestes sometime for the Romans I thinke it not amisse to consider of his petitions that he maketh that we may see whether heerein the Church of Rome doe follow his godly example or in his prayses and thankesgiuinges to God for his benefites towards them Which his prayers and thankesgiuinges if we doe marke are directed onely vnto God in the name of Christ for other mediatour hee did not Knowe but onely one mediatour of God and man the man Christ Iesus He taketh God to witnesse of the continuall mention that he maketh of them in his prayers And why doth he call God to witnesse thereof but because hee prayed to him he desireth that God of patience and comfort will giue them on mind and that The God of peace will crush Sathan vnder their feete Hee willeth them to pray for him to God not to any other Helpe me or striue with me by prayers to God for mee And in his thankesgiuings I thanke my God through Iesus Christ for you all And againe To God onely wise be glory through Iesus Christ foreuer The Apostle Saint Peter blesseth God the Father of our Lorde Iesus Christ For as the prophet Dauid saith I haue lift vp mine eies vnto the hils from whence commeth my helpe my helpe commeth from the Lord that made heauen and earth The Godly know no other helpe but God and therefore pray to none but him neither are thankefull to any but to him when they haue receiued any benefit And for this cause Christ when he woulde haue a supply of victuals to reléeue them that followed him and were hungry Hee looking vp to heauen blessed as S. Marke reporteth And so he looked vp to heauen likewise when he would cure him that was deafe and dumme For he who teaching vs to pray instructeth vs to say Our Father which art in heauen doth by this his gesture teach vs to lift our handes and eies and heartes vnto heauen to looke for helpe from our heauenly Father To him he prayeth Abba Father all thinges are possible vnto thee take away this cup from me And a little before he did yéelde vp the Ghost My God my God why hast thouforsaken me The whole scriptures agrée with this that héere is taught They are full of commaundementes wherein we are charged to call vpon God in the day of our trouble full of examples of the Godly that make requestes to God onely full of thankesgiuings wherein the faithfull acknowledge that euery good perfect gifte commeth from aboue from the Father of lightes and therefore they are moued to say with Dauid O giue thankes vnto the Lord for he is gratious his mercy endureth for euer Yea what way so euer we turne ourselues or what good thing so euer we consider in our selues we must confesse that all that we acknowledge our selues bound to be thankfull for is giuen vs of God Whether life or liuing thinges temporall or eternall or whatsoeuer other blessing And therefore to him onely must we make our prayers for that we want to him onely must we giue thankes for that we haue And such are the prayers that were made in the auncient Church of Rome Yea such are the prayers of all the godly through out the scriptures And this was the faith of Rome also in the daies of Iustin the Martyr who liued at Rome For he writing against Tryphon the Iewe or conferring with him of religion out of these words of the Psalms Thou art my God departe not from me saith thus He teacheth that euery man must repose his trust in God and aske for health and helpe of him So that as the Apostle did so Iustinus teacheth vs that we should doe I might to this end haue a whole cloud of witnesses out of the Fathers of the purer age of the Church but because I will not be tedious in so plaine a matter I content my selfe with that one place out of Tertullian Aske and ye shall haue is spoken to such as know of whom they should aske that is of him that hath promised anything euen of the God of Abraham Isaac Iacob And for the doctrine of mediation this onely will I say out of S. Augustine That he only that maketh intercession for al and none for him is the true Mediatour For as he inferreth afterwards If Paul had beene a Mediatour then other also his fellow Apostls should haue beene Mediatours likewise And if there should haue bin many then Paul himself had no reason to say one God one Mediatour between God man the man Christ Iesus Thus we sée that S. August confuting the auncient heretiks called the Donatists who made other Mediators besids Christ doth euen by the same weapons yea with the same blow beat downe our aduersaries the Romish Catholickes and giueth their doctrine of many Mediatours a deadly wound But the Romish Church that now is as in all things els they frame vnto themselues newe opinions so heere also they haue forsaken the old waies yea they haue committed two euils they haue forsaken God the fountaine of liuing waters to digge to themselues pittes broken pittes that will holde no water And we need not heerein examine their doctrine their practise doth