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A38109 The first and second part of Gangræna, or, A catalogue and discovery of many of the errors, heresies, blasphemies and pernicious practices of the sectaries of this time, vented and acted in England in these four last years also a particular narration of divers stories, remarkable passages, letters : an extract of many letters, all concerning the present sects : together with some observations upon and corollaries from all the fore-named premisses / by Thomas Edwards ...; Gangraena. Part 1-2 Edwards, Thomas, 1599-1647. 1646 (1646) Wing E227; ESTC R9322 294,645 284

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his people that he is the Authour not of those Actions alone in and with which sin is but of the very Pravity Ataxy Anomy Irregularity and sinfullnesse it self which is in them 12. That all Lyes come forth out of the mouth of God 13. 'T is the will and command of God that since the coming of his Son the Lord Jesus a permission of the most Paganish Jewish Turkish or Antichristian consciences and worship be granted to all men in all Nations and Countries and they are only to be fought against with the sword of Gods Spirit the word of God and for the Parliament to use any civill coercive meanes to compell men of different judgment is one of the greatest sins that can be named 't is committing a greater rape then if they had forced or ravished the bodies of all the women in the world Yea if it be mens consciences the Magistrate may not punish for blasphemies nor for denying the Scriptures nor for denying there is a God 14. That no man was cast into hell for any sin but only because God would have it so 15. That a man had life before God breathed into him and that which God breathed into him was part of the divine Essence and shall returne unto God again 16. That we should think of our selves no better then was meet for God loves the creatures that creep upon the ground as well as the best Saints and there is no distance between the flesh of a Man and the flesh of a Toad 17. That the Prince of the ayr that rules in the children of disobedience is God and that there is no other spirit but one which Spirit is God 18. That God hath not decreed all the actions of men because men doing what God decreed do not ●in 19. That God was never angry nor displeased with man for if he were ever displeased and pleased again then there is a changeablenesse in God 20. That God loved not one man more then another before the world neither is there an absolute particular election but only generall and conditionall upon perseverance and the Scripture no where speaks of Reprobates or Reprobation 21. That the soul dies with the body and all things shall have an end but God only shall remain for ever 22. Every creature in the first creation was God and every creature is God every creature that hath life and breath being an efflux from God and shall returne into God again be swallowed up in him as a drop is in the ocean 23. That to a saving knowledge of God it sufficeth not to know him in the book of nature nor secondly as revealed in the holy Scriptures but that we must know him as abstract from his mercies and all his attributes 24. That in the Unity of the God-head there is not a Trinity of Persons but the Doctrine of the Trinity beleeved and professed in the Church of God is a Popish tradition and a Doctrine of Rome 25. There are not three distinct Persons in the Divine Essence but only three Offices the Father Son and holy Ghost are not three Persons but Offices 26. That there is but one Person in the Divine nature 27. That Jesus Christ is not very God not God essentially but nominally not the eternall Son of God by eternall generation no otherwise may he be called the Son of God but as he was man 28. That Christs humane nature is defiled with originall sin as well as ours Christ had from the birth to his death the same originall corruption as ours he took our sin into his nature as well as our flesh upon him Christ is not of a holier nature then we but in this appeares Gods love to us that he will take one of us in the same conditition to convince us of what he is to us and hath made us to be in him me thinks the beholding of Christ to be holy in the flesh is a dishonour to God in that we should conceive holinesse out of God and again a discomfort to the Saints that he should be of a more holy nature then they as being no ground for them to come neer with boldnesse to God 29. That we did look for great matters from one crucified at Ierusalem 16 hundred yeares ago but that does us no good it must be a Christ formed in us the deity united to our humanity Christ came into the world to live thirty two years and to do nothing else that he knew and blessed God he never trusted in a crusified Christ. 30. Christ was true man when he created us yea from eternity and though he had not flesh yet was he very man without flesh 31. That Christ died for all men alike for the reprobate as well as for the elect and that not only sufficiently but effectually for Iudas as well as Peter for the damned in hell as well as the Saints in Heaven 32. That by Christs death all the sins of all the men in the world Turks Pagans as well as Christians committed against the morall Law and first Covenant are actually pardoned and forgiven and this is the everlasting Gospel 33. That Christ did only satisfie for the sins against the first Covenant but not for the sins against the second Covenant as unbelief he died not for the unbelief of any 34. Christ died only for sins past i. e. before the Gospel is revealed to the sinner and the sins of men committed after conversion Christ died not for but they are pardoned by his being a continuall sacrifice 35. Every man satisfies for himselfe for the sins against the second Covenant namely unbelief because he that beleeves not the wrath of God abides upon him so that for a years unbelief a man beares a years wrath and this is all the satisfaction God requires 36. That no man shall perish or go to hell for any sin but unbeleef only 37. That the Heathen who never heard of Christ by the Word have the Gospel for every creature as the Sun Moon and Stars preach the Gospel to men and in them is revealed the knowledge of Christ crucified and sin pardoned if they had eyes to see it 38. Those Heathen that perish do perish only for not beleeving according to the Gospel they enjoy 39. Christ did not by his death purchase life and salvation for all no nor for the elect For it was not the end of God in the coming of Christ to purchase love and life but Christ himself was purchased by love that hee might make out love and purchase us to love 40. Christ Jesus came into the world to witnesse and declare the love of God to us not to procure it for us or to satisfie God as some say Christ was a most glorious publisher of the Gospel he was sent to preach the Gospel to heal the broken hearted to preach deliverance to the captives in all that Christ saith to be the end of
up himself a sacrifice of full satisfaction not for all men only but for all that by man was lost even the whole creation of God 172. That a Directory or order to help in the way of worship is a breach of the second Commandement and there is no word of God to warrant the making of that Directory book more then Ieroboam had for the making of Calves of gold which he set upon two high places one at Dan the other at Bet●el to the confusion of himself and his posterity 173. No man is yet in hell neither shall any be there untill the judgement for God doth not hang first and judge after 174. Men say that Faith is supernaturall but how can it be above nature to beleeve that which we see sufficient ground to beleeve and to beleeve any thing of which we have no plaine ground and reason is so far from being above nature that it is below it and proper to fools and not to reasonable men 175. The Law doth not pronounce eternall death in hell fire on those that obey it not nor were men to have perished in hell fire in relation to the Law or Adams sin but the Gospel pronounceth eternall death in hell fire on those that obey it not and if we had been to suffer hell in relation to Adam or the Law then Christ also should have suffered in hell for us to have redeemed us from thence which he did not 176. It is not sutable to God to pick and chuse amongst men in shewing mercy if the love of God be manifested to a few it is far from being infinite if God shew not mercy to all to ascribe it to his will or pleasure is to blaspheme his excellent name and nature Now unto these many more might be added that I know of and are commonly known to others which have been preached and printed within these four last years in England as the necessity of dipping and burying under water all persons to be baptized as the necessity of a Church-Covenant as that Ministers may not lawfully baptize or administer the Lords Supper out of their own particular Congregations neither preach Ministerially but as gifted brethren out of their own Church with many such errours of the Church-way but because they are but light in comparison I will not name them I could relate also to you other errours that have been reported to me and others by honest understanding men to have been vented and 't is likely enough they may be true as that 't is lawfull for wives to give without their husbands consents something out of their husbands estates for the maintenance of the Church and Ministers whereunto they belong as that the Lords Prayer called and cryed up by many to be so it could not be the Lords Prayer in regard there was a petition for pardon of sins which Christ would not have taught or words to that purpose as also that if a man were strongly moved by the spirit to kill to commit adultery c. and upon praying against it again and again it continued and yet was still strongly pressed he should then do it but because I have not these upon so good grounds nor such a concurrence of circumstances or further confirmation upon enquiry I therefore forbear to put them down particularly in the Catalogue of Errours or to assert them with that authority I might here also annex to all these Errours many Expositions of Scripture given by the Sectaries in their Sermons and private meetings but I will only give two 1. That of Rom. 8.2 The law of the Spirit of life hath freed me from the law of sin and death that is as was expounded from the morall Law 2. That of Ioh. 5 39. Sea●ch the Scriptures for in them ye think ye have eternall life you thinke to have that was their thought and mistake not that Christ approved it that eternall life was to be had in the Scriptures A Catalogue of the Blasphemies of the Sectaries NOw besides these Errours and Heresies laid down many of them being Blasphemies as the Reader cannot but have observed in perusing their Catalogue there have been many blasphemies and blasphemous speeches vented by Sectaries severall wayes both by writing preaching conference and discoursing and some so horrid and abominable in such a dispitefull scoffing fearfull way that I tremble to think of them and shall forbear to name them And indeed within these four last years in England there have been blasphemies uttered of the Scriptures the Trinity each person of the Trinity both of Father Son and holy Ghost of Gods eternall election of the Virgin Mary the Apostles and holy Penmen of Scripture of Baptisme Prayer the ministery of the Word and the Ministers of all the Reformed Churches of the Government of the Church and of the Christian Magistrates In some books printed and dispersed up and down there are fearfull blasphemies as in the Arraignment of persecution The Sacred Synodycall Decretall Martins Eccho c. profaning and abusing the holy and dreadfull Name of God in a most fearfull manner scoffing at the holy Ghost sent in a Cloak-bagg from Scotland making a most blasphemous Prayer wherein the Passion Death Resurrection and Ascension of Christ are in a scoffing way alluded unto with many others which I will not foul paper with transcribing In some Manuscripts of one Paul Best there are most horrid blasphemies of the Trinity of Christ and of the holy Ghost calling the Doctrine of the Trinity a mystery of iniquity the three headed Cerberus a fiction a Tradition of Rome Monstr●m biforme triforme with other horrid expressions borowed from hell not fit to be mentioned There was a fearfull blasphemous scoffing speech of God the Father Son and holy Ghost spoken by one Clarke as I remember the name given in to a Committee of Parliament in way of complaint in writing with a hand subscribed and one witnessed it before the Committee but I forbear to relate it Mr Paget in his Heresiography Epistle Dedicatory speakes of one committed for mocking at Christs Incarnation the particulars whereof though I have been told from Master Paget yet I judge it best to conceal There have been many blaspheming speeches in a way of derision of the holy Ghost calling it flabile numen and asking what kinde of bird it was whether but I dare not speak it The holy Scriptures are by many in these times sleighted and scoffed at that growes and spreades much called the golden Calfe that there are many contradictions and lyes in them that they are no better then a Ballad that they can make as good Scriptures that place in Genesis 6.6 where 't is said God repented that be made man was untrue so other places of Scripture The Doctrine of Gods Eternall Election and Praedestination hath been call'd a damnable Errour The Virgin Mary hath been called a the Apostles have been called and they could write as good Scriptures as
lives but few yeers if the Sects be suffered to go on will see that all the other Sects of Independents Brownists Antinomians Anabaptists will be swallowed up in the Seekers alias Libertines many are gone already and multitudes are going that way and the issue of these Sects and Schismes will be that all will end in a loosenesse and licentiousnesse of living A HYMNE which some of the Antinomians do sing at their meetings instead of DAVIDS Psalms THe newes is good Christ shed his bloud our peace is made in Heaven And now he is gone up to his Throne all power to him is given 2 Our glory is great we are compleat in Gods great love we stand We are on high exalted by Christs victorious hand 3 We once neer lost to hell did post but God in mercy found us And now he hath taught us his path and with his mercy crown'd us 4 Shall sin or hell Gods people quell or ever keep them under No Christ hath died sin purifide and hell bands rent in sunder 5 The bloud of Christ our great High Priest which once for us was shed Hath purg'd the blot and cleans'd the spot wherewith we were besmear'd 6 A glorious thing a wonder strong that sin should not defile And those are all to Christ more dear that once did seem so vile 7 All sin we finde is out of minde the Saints are made divine First in the love of God above in glory they do shine 8 None are so dear nor yet so near with God they are made one Who now doth see them sure to be as is his only Sonne 9 Christ is our guide we cannot slide nor never fall away Our state is sure and must endure though all things else decay 10 Then let 's be bold our heads uphold the time is drawing nigh When we shall raign and eke remain with God eternally 11 Let all base fears and needlesse cares out of our souls remove With speed let 's fly to God on high and dwell with him above Amen Amen And 't is remarkable that now for present the best Independent Churches and Congregations are mixed Assemblies and medlies consisting of persons whereof some are Anabaptists some Antinomians some Libertines others hold Arminian and Socinian Tenets those who for mixtures in manners and because of some persons not so holy in their lives made a Schisme in the Church have worse mixtures among themselves in Doctrine a linsey wolsey compounded Religion I do not think there is any one Independent Church of three yeers standing and that hath attained to the number of between 30. and 40. members but had or hath in it some Anabaptists Antinomians Seekers or else persons holding one or other odde and strange opinion Mr. Symonds Independent Church at Roterdam is over-grown with Anabaptisme and he hath written into England that he is so pestered with Anabaptists that he knew not what to do Mr. Sympsons Church hath bred divers Seekers Mr. L●ckiers Antinomians Master Iohn Goodwins company is an unclean Conventicle where the spirit of Errour and pride prevails in most the unclean spirit being entred there into himself and his people with seven evill spirits Socinian Arminian Popish Anabaptisticall Libertine Tenets being held by himself and many of his people And what shall I say more it will be too long to tell of what I have heard of some members in Mr. Carters Mr. Cradock● Mr. Brisco Mr. Barlets Churches concerning opinions they hold March 21. I was informed for certain that a young maiden buying in the Sirand of a Goldsmith a gold Ring the young man in the shop who was selling it her asked her whether she was to be married for the Ring was much of the size of a marriage Ring she answered no nor did not know whether ever shee should be married he questioned further with her what use she bought if for after some discourse together she told him she bought it to give to the Minister of the Church into which she was to be admitted a member and the young man further conferring with her she told him she was to be of the Congregationall way and of a Church where the Minister was a man of precious gifts It hath been related to me also from good hands and if there be any mistake in the Relation I desire the Independent Ministers to clear wherein namely that in some of their Congregations maid-servants out of their wages do allow so much yeerly as five or six shillings to their Ministers that some poore godly persons who have expressed great desire to be of their Church way and gone to some Independent Ministers to be admitted to Church-fellowship could not because of their poverty that persons of great ranck and quality as some Ladies are admitted to their Churches in a more favourable way and not after the ordinary manner and that one Lady at least though no member of any Independent Church but of a Presbyteriall hath been admitted to the Lords Supper among them and her child was to have been baptized by an Independent Minister but that it died the very day appointed for the baptizing of it that in one of the Independent Churches here in London a rich widow who was there a member refused to give her consent to one in way of marriage whom otherwise she liked and entertained till hee yeelded to settle twenty pounds a yeer upon her Independent Minister during his life and lastly that some of the Independent Ministers have from some one of their members 20.30 li. or better per annum and a Minister is named who hath fifty five pounds yeerly from three members of his Church forty pounds from two and fifteen pounds from a third A Disputation held at the Spitle about the Immortality of the soul by some Anabaptists as Lam Battee and others on the day of publike Thanksgiving for Dartmouths being given up into the hands of the Parliament MY Lord Major hearing of a great concourse of people that were to meet upon such a businesse having a respect to the peace and good government of this City sent two of the Marshals men to Lam to the Spitle where they were met to dispute but had not yet begun who told Lam that may Lord Major had sent them to him to forbid him or them to dispute as upon this day Lam answered the Officers he would go up and acquaint the brethren which he did standing in a place like a desk above the people at one end of the room and Battee at the other The first thing that Lam spake of was that my Lord Major had sent to forbid their meeting or rather to desire them not to dispute as upon this day Battee stood up and said that Mr. Major was a limb of Antichrist and that he was a persecutor of the brethren and that he did question what power or authority he had to forbid them he was sure the Parliament gave him no such power but gave them liberty to use