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A41211 An appeal to Scripture & antiquity in the questions of 1. the worship and invocation of saints and angels 2. the worship of images 3. justification by and merit of good works 4. purgatory 5. real presence and half-communion : against the Romanists / by H. Ferne ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1665 (1665) Wing F787; ESTC R6643 246,487 512

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restrain_v what_o he_o have_v free_o and_o true_o grant_v therefore_o he_o subjoin_v ibid._n dissentimus_fw-la ab_fw-la haereticis_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la ad_fw-la quod_fw-la merita_fw-la christi_fw-la existimamus_fw-la nobis_fw-la imputari_fw-la dicimus_fw-la imputari_fw-la ratione_fw-la effectus_fw-la quo_fw-la pacto_fw-la loquor_fw-la council_n trid._n etiam_fw-la ad_fw-la aliquem_fw-la effectum_fw-la imputari_fw-la ibid._n we_o differ_v from_o the_o heretic_n in_o that_o to_o which_o or_o for_o which_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n be_v impute_v how_o be_v that_o we_o say_v they_o be_v impute_v say_v he_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o effect_n as_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n speak_v also_o that_o they_o be_v impute_v as_o to_o some_o effect_n now_o if_o we_o ask_v to_o what_o effect_n he_o tell_v we_o in_o the_o two_o next_o chapter_n they_o be_v impute_v unto_o justification_n and_o unto_o life_n eternal_a this_o be_v very_o true_a but_o how_o unto_o justification_n in_o regard_n of_o 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nothing_o to_o keep_v he_o off_o from_o the_o protestant_n doctrine_n which_o allow_v the_o be_v and_o necessity_n of_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n but_o only_o the_o nicety_n of_o a_o term_n formaliter_fw-la for_o sententia_fw-la for_o bel._n l._n 2._o the_o justific_a c._n 7._o si_fw-mi sol●m_fw-la vellent_fw-la imputari_fw-la nobis_fw-la christi_fw-la merita_fw-la quia_fw-la nobis_fw-la donata_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o possumus_fw-la ea_fw-la deo_fw-la patri_fw-la offer_n pro_fw-la pecca●is_fw-la nostris_fw-la quoni●m_fw-la christus_fw-la suscrpit_fw-la onus_fw-la satisfaciendi_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la recta_fw-la esset_fw-la corum_fw-la sententia_fw-la speak_v of_o protestant_n if_o they_o will_v say_v he_o have_v only_o christ_n merit_n impute_v to_o we_o because_o they_o be_v give_v to_o we_o and_o we_o may_v offer_v they_o to_o god_n the_o father_n for_o our_o sin_n because_o he_o undertake_v the_o burden_n of_o satissy_v for_o we_o their_o doctrine_n be_v right_a and_o sound_a 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