Selected quad for the lemma: doctrine_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
doctrine_n father_n scripture_n tradition_n 2,440 5 8.9807 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A18441 [A treatise against the Defense of the censure, giuen upon the bookes of W.Charke and Meredith Hanmer, by an unknowne popish traytor in maintenance of the seditious challenge of Edmond Campion ... Hereunto are adjoyned two treatises, written by D.Fulke ... ] Charke, William, d. 1617, attributed name.; Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1586 (1586) STC 5009; ESTC S111939 659,527 941

There are 23 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

fastidia_fw-la detergeret_fw-la nihil_fw-la enim_fw-la fere_n de_fw-la illis_fw-la obscuritatibus_fw-la eruitur_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la planissimè_fw-la dictum_fw-la alibi_fw-la reperiatur_fw-la the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v magnifical_o and_o wholsomlie_o so_o temper_v the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o with_o evident_a place_n he_o may_v satisfy_v hunger_n and_o with_o more_o dark_a place_n may_v wipe_v away_o disdainfulnes_n for_o nothing_o almost_o be_v find_v out_o of_o those_o obscurity_n which_o be_v not_o find_v else_o where_o most_o plain_o utter_v it_o be_v no_o hard_a matter_n to_o heap_v up_o many_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n to_o this_o purpose_n but_o that_o the_o va_fw-fr nitie_n of_o this_o answerer_n appear_v sufficient_o in_o all_o our_o book_n write_v against_o the_o papist_n in_o which_o not_o only_o by_o the_o manifest_a place_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o also_o by_o most_o evident_a testimony_n of_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n we_o confute_v they_o in_o the_o most_o and_o great_a matter_n of_o controversy_n that_o eat_v between_o us._n but_o what_o say_v our_o gallant_a answerer_n that_o the_o counsel_n father_n and_o anciter_n of_o thechurch_n have_v from_o time_n to_o timedeclare_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n unto_o we_o have_v none_o of_o these_o at_o any_o time_n err_v in_o expound_v the_o scripture_n &_o may_v we_o safe_o believe_v they_o whatsoever_o they_o say_v he_o will_v i_o warrant_v you_o deny_v it_o except_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n do_v allow_v their_o interpretation_n and_o therefore_o this_o fly_v from_o the_o only_a scripture_n to_o the_o interpretation_n of_o count_n cell_n father_n &_o ancestor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o impudent_a shift_n to_o reserve_v unto_o the_o pope_n liberty_n &_o authority_n to_o make_v what_o meaning_n of_o scripture_n they_o please_v &_o thereby_o to_o give_v colour_n to_o every_o fancy_n they_o listen_v to_o father_n it_o upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n the_o three_o cause_n he_o affirm_v to_o be_v that_o by_o chaleng_v of_o only_a scripture_n they_o may_v deliver_v themselves_o from_o all_o ordinan_n ces_fw-fr or_o doctrine_n leave_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o first_o pillar_n of_o christ_n church_n though_o not_o express_o set_v down_o in_o the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n in_o deed_n to_o deliver_v ourselves_o from_o the_o burden_n of_o man_n tradition_n the_o ordinance_n or_o doctrine_n of_o man_n we_o affirm_v 3._o the_o holy_a scripture_n to_o be_v able_a and_o sufficient_a to_o make_v we_o wise_a unto_o salvation_n by_o faith_n in_o jesus_n christ_n as_o the_o apostle_n and_o principal_a pillar_n of_o the_o church_n have_v teach_v we_o who_o have_v leave_v no_o such_o ordinance_n or_o doctrine_n but_o they_o be_v either_o express_o set_v down_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n or_o by_o plain_a and_o necessary_a collection_n to_o be_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o same_o for_o how_o will_v our_o adversary_n prove_v that_o any_o thing_n be_v receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n which_o have_v not_o testimony_n out_o of_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o apostle_n who_o can_v be_v a_o sufficient_a witness_n of_o such_o the_o livery_n see_v many_o thing_n be_v of_o old_a refer_v to_o the_o apostle_n tradition_n which_o even_o our_o adversary_n do_v 26._o not_o admit_v to_o be_v apostolical_a see_v the_o most_o ancient_a and_o immediate_a successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o polyearpus_fw-la &_o anicetus_n can_v not_o agree_v about_o a_o ceremony_n receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n namely_o the_o celebration_n of_o easter_n what_o certainty_n can_v there_o be_v of_o any_o other_o ordinance_n or_o doctine_n father_v upon_o the_o apostle_n without_o witness_n of_o their_o writing_n yea_o and_o some_o time_n direct_o contrary_a and_o repugnant_a to_o their_o writing_n but_o hereof_o say_v our_o adversary_n they_o assume_v authority_n of_o allow_v or_o not_o allow_v whatsoever_o like_v or_o serve_v their_o turn_n for_o the_o time_n and_o hereof_o he_o bring_v example_n first_o of_o the_o number_n of_o sacrament_n whereof_o some_o protestant_n have_v write_v diverslie_o because_o the_o name_n of_o sacrament_n be_v diverslie_o take_v sometime_o large_o for_o every_o holy_a sign_n sometime_o strict_o for_o such_o holy_a sign_n only_o as_o be_v institute_v of_o god_n be_v seal_n of_o the_o dispensation_n of_o his_o general_a grace_n in_o the_o new_a teftament_n pertain_v to_o every_o member_n of_o the_o church_n sometime_o for_o all_o holy_a mystery_n or_o secret_n etc._n etc._n but_o what_o do_v it_o serve_v any_o protestant_n turn_v whether_o there_o be_v more_o or_o few_o sign_n in_o number_n that_o may_v be_v call_v sacrament_n see_v all_o protestant_n agree_v about_o the_o thing_n themselves_o that_o be_v set_v forth_o in_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v visible_a sign_n of_o grace_n invisible_a and_o the_o name_n itself_o sacrament_n in_o that_o sense_n we_o speak_v of_o when_o we_o say_v there_o be_v 2._o 3._o 4._o or_o 7._o sacrament_n be_v not_o once_o use_v this_o diversity_n therefore_o be_v but_o of_o a_o term_n and_o that_o not_o use_v in_o scripture_n therefore_o it_o arise_v not_o of_o any_o interpretation_n or_o perverse_a understanding_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o our_o answerer_n will_v have_v it_o seem_v to_o be_v but_o let_v we_o hear_v his_o example_n martin_n luther_n say_v he_o after_o he_o have_v deny_v all_o testimony_n of_o man_n beside_o himself_o he_o begin_v thus_o about_o the_o number_n of_o sacrament_n principiò_fw-la neganda_fw-la mihisunt_fw-la septem_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la &_o tantúm_fw-la tria_fw-la pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la ponenda_fw-la first_o of_o all_o i_o must_v deny_v seven_o sacrament_n and_o appoint_v three_o for_o the_o time_n marry_o this_o time_n last_v not_o long_o for_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o say_v that_o if_o he_o will_v speak_v according_a to_o the_o use_n of_o only_a scripture_n he_o have_v but_o one_o sacrament_n for_o we_o that_o be_v baptism_n in_o this_o sentence_n how_o many_o lie_n and_o slander_n be_v pack_v together_o first_o he_o say_v martin_n luther_n deni_v all_o testimony_n of_o man_n which_o be_v false_a for_o he_o allow_v all_o testimony_n of_o man_n that_o agree_v with_o the_o testimony_n of_o god_n express_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o often_o cit_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n for_o confirmation_n of_o the_o truth_n which_o he_o teach_v indeed_o he_o allow_v man_n no_o authority_n to_o institute_v sacrament_n or_o to_o make_v article_n of_o faith_n or_o law_n to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n of_o man_n and_o he_o will_v have_v all_o man_n testimony_n to_o be_v examine_v and_o judge_v according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o this_o be_v not_o to_o deny_v all_o testimony_n of_o man_n but_o to_o distinguish_v true_a testimony_n of_o man_n from_o false_a an_o other_o slander_n be_v where_o he_o say_v that_o luther_n in_o deny_v all_o man_n testimony_n except_v himself_o which_o be_v altogether_o untrue_a for_o he_o require_v none_o other_o credit_n to_o be_v give_v to_o his_o own_o testimony_n than_o he_o allow_v to_o the_o testimony_n of_o other_o neither_o do_v he_o arrogate_v any_o authority_n to_o himself_o which_o he_o derogate_v from_o other_o man_n and_o namely_o in_o this_o book_n of_o the_o captivity_n of_o babylon_n he_o take_v not_o upon_o he_o absolute_o to_o teach_v every_o point_n but_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o he_o do_v for_o the_o present_n understand_v of_o they_o promise_v after_o great_a study_n &_o more_o diligent_a inquiry_n to_o entreat_v of_o diverse_a of_o they_o more_o certain_o &_o even_o in_o this_o very_a place_n of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o sacrament_n he_o say_v he_o will_v admit_v three_o onclie_n for_o the_o present_a time_n intend_v to_o be_v further_o a_o duised_a whether_o there_o be_v few_o or_o more_o to_o be_v entitle_v with_o that_o name_n wherein_o our_o answerer_n offer_v he_o the_o three_o injury_n in_o translate_n tria_fw-la pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la ponenda_fw-la i_o must_v appoint_v three_o for_o the_o time_n as_o though_o luther_n have_v take_v upon_o he_o to_o appoint_v how_o many_o sacrament_n the_o church_n shall_v have_v or_o will_v challenge_v power_n to_o appoint_v more_o or_o jesse_n at_o his_o pleasure_n where_o as_o his_o word_n if_o the_o answerer_n do_v not_o wilful_o corrupt_v they_o by_o false_a translation_n do_v import_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o only_o as_o far_o as_o he_o do_v present_o see_v there_o be_v no_o more_o but_o three_o of_o those_o that_o be_v common_o call_v sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o be_v right_o to_o be_v call_v by_o that_o name_n the_o four_o slander_n be_v that_o luther_n have_v but_o one_o sacrament_n for_o we_o which_o be_v baptism_n if_o he_o will_v speak_v according_a to_o the_o use_n of_o only_a scripture_n yea_o this_o be_v a_o double_a slander_n for_o neither_o do_v
the_o work_n of_o nature_n or_o will_v which_o be_v in_o we_o but_o by_o the_o he_o lie_v ghost_n which_o be_v give_v unto_o we_o which_o both_o help_v our_o infirmity_n and_o work_v with_o our_o health_n for_o that_o be_v the_o grace_n of_o god_n by_o jesus_n christ_n our_o lord_n to_o who_o with_o the_o father_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v ascribe_v eternity_n and_o goodness_n for_o ever_o in_o this_o discourse_n of_o s._n augustine_n be_v declare_v that_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n be_v make_v possible_a and_o not_o heavy_a to_o be_v fulfil_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n nor_o by_o the_o strength_n of_o man_n either_o of_o nature_n or_o will_n and_o that_o by_o two_o mean_n faith_n and_o love_n i'faith_o by_o which_o we_o crave_v &_o obtain_v forgiveness_n of_o our_o imperfection_n and_o love_n by_o which_o we_o cheerful_o endeavour_n to_o accomplish_v in_o work_n so_o much_o as_o we_o can_v which_o we_o can_v not_o do_v perfect_o in_o this_o life_n in_o as_o much_o asno_n man_n heart_n be_v pure_a in_o this_o life_n &_o no_o man_n love_n be_v perfect_a in_o this_o world_n yet_o say_v purify_n our_o heart_n that_o by_o themselves_o be_v unclean_a obtain_v as_o the_o same_o be_v augustine_n say_v that_o which_o the_o law_n command_v but_o how_o far_o be_v this_o from_o the_o popish_a assertion_n to_o wit_n the_o law_n be_v not_o aboove_o our_o abtlitie_n to_o keep_v it_o the_o curse_n that_o you_o cite_v out_o of_o augustine_n serm._n 191._o and_o jerorme_v explan_n symb._n ad_fw-la damasum_fw-la be_v but_o a_o crack_n of_o a_o break_a bladder_n in_o stead_n of_o a_o thunderbolte_n for_o both_o the_o sermon_n and_o the_o explanation_n be_v counterfeit_a stuff_n be_v all_o one_o word_n forword_n except_o a_o little_a 〈◊〉_d slay_v in_o the_o beginning_n and_o the_o end_n and_o yet_o be_v most_o impudentlieascribe_v both_o to_o augustine_n and_o jerome_n but_o that_o ne_o there_o of_o both_o be_v author_n of_o that_o sentence_n i_o will_v prove_v by_o 〈◊〉_d of_o saint_n jerome_n who_o expresselie_o affirm_v ah_o that_o which_o the_o sermon_n and_o explanation_n accurseet_a we_o curse_v the_o blasphemy_n of_o they_o say_v the_o counterfeiter_n which_o say_v that_o any_o thing_n impossible_a be_v command_v by_o god_n to_o man_n and_o that_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n can_v be_v keep_v of_o every_o one_o but_o of_o all_o in_o common_a saint_n lerome_n dialog_n advers._n pelag._n lib._n 1._o say_v possibilia_fw-la praecepit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o ego_fw-la fateer_n sed_fw-la haec_fw-la possibilia_fw-la cuncta_fw-la singuli_fw-la habere_fw-la non_fw-la possumus_fw-la non_fw-la imbeciliitate_fw-la naturae_fw-la ne_fw-la calumniam_fw-la facias_fw-la deo_fw-la sed_fw-la animilassitudine_fw-la quae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d simul_fw-la &_o semper_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la habere_fw-la virtutes_fw-la god_n command_v thing_n possible_a and_o that_o i_o confess_v but_o all_o these_o possible_a thing_n every_o one_o of_o we_o can_v not_o have_v through_o weakness_n of_o nature_n lest_o thou_o shall_v slander_v god_n but_o through_o weariness_n of_o mind_n which_o can_v not_o have_v all_o virtue_n together_o and_o always_o and_o his_o whole_a discourse_n in_o that_o dialogue_n be_v to_o prove_v that_o no_o man_n can_v be_v without_o sin_n the_o contrary_a whereof_o be_v flat_a pelagianisine_n he_o expound_v also_o at_o large_a how_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n be_v possible_a and_o how_o unpossible_a which_o may_v be_v see_v of_o any_o man_n that_o will_v read_v his_o writing_n against_o the_o pelagian_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v very_o injurious_a unto_o he_o to_o make_v he_o a_o patron_n of_o that_o sentence_n which_o he_o put_v posedlie_o and_o plentifullie_o impugn_v to_o conclude_v chrysostome_n and_o basile_n mean_v not_o that_o a_o perfect_a observation_n of_o god_n law_n be_v possible_a in_o this_o life_n but_o that_o god_n geve_v grace_n in_o some_o measure_n to_o keep_v they_o to_o those_o that_o be_v bear_v 〈◊〉_d in_o christ_n in_o who_o only_o be_v perform_v that_o which_o be_v impossible_a by_o the_o law_n as_o the_o a_o postle_n say_v these_o father_n and_o diverse_a other_o who_o authority_n the_o pelagian_o abuse_v as_o you_o do_v to_o uphold_v their_o heresy_n by_o such_o speech_n mean_v to_o accuse_v the_o negligence_n and_o slothfulness_n of_o man_n in_o keep_v god_n commandment_n not_o to_o extol_v the_o power_n and_o ability_n of_o man_n free_a will_n to_o keep_v they_o as_o saint_n augustine_n proove_v by_o many_o testimony_n take_v out_o of_o their_o write_n in_o his_o treatise_n against_o the_o pelagian_o the_o eleven_o section_n of_o the_o face_n the_o scripture_n and_o doctrine_n by_o tradition_n the_o jesuite_n you_o say_v do_v not_o use_v these_o term_n of_o deface_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v imperfect_a maim_a or_o lame_a and_o thereof_o i_o will_v not_o contend_v but_o the_o same_o in_o effect_n they_o hold_v as_o master_n charke_n say_v when_o they_o affirm_v that_o all_o thing_n necessarte_n to_o salvation_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n your_o similitude_n of_o a_o merchant_n leave_v his_o commandment_n part_o in_o writing_n and_o part_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n and_o refer_v the_o resolution_n of_o doubt_n unto_o his_o wife_n be_v not_o sufficient_a in_o this_o case_n for_o our_o saviour_n christ_n live_v for_o ever_o whereas_o his_o servant_n and_o the_o man_n of_o who_o his_o church_n which_o be_v his_o spouse_n consist_v be_v change_v in_o every_o generation_n so_o that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o certainty_n of_o his_o commandment_n but_o only_o by_o his_o writing_n which_o if_o they_o contain_v not_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n they_o be_v imperfect_a lame_a and_o maim_v and_o where_o you_o say_v that_o saint_n augustine_n proove_v the_o contrary_a at_o large_a lib._n 1._o cont_n cresc_n c._n 32._o it_o be_v utterlie_o untrue_a for_o he_o say_v expresselie_o concern_v the_o question_n of_o rebaptise_v they_o that_o be_v baptize_v by_o heretic_n sequimur_fw-la sanè_fw-la nos_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la re_fw-la etiam_fw-la canonicarum_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la certissimam_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la we_o true_o do_v follow_v in_o this_o matter_n also_o the_o most_o certain_a authority_n of_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n whereunto_o he_o adjoin_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n after_o some_o disceptation_n about_o the_o matter_n who_o counsel_n agreeable_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n no_o man_n doubt_v burr_n it_o be_v to_o be_v follow_v theverie_n same_o doctrine_n you_o say_v teach_v the_o say_a father_n lib._n the_o side_n &_o operibus_fw-la cap._n 9_o and_o also_o ep_a 66._o ad_fw-la don._n in_o the_o former_a be_v no_o word_n to_o the_o purpose_n he_o speak_v of_o the_o eunuch_n who_o philip_n baptize_v who_o confession_n of_o christ_n be_v very_o short_a some_o thought_n to_o be_v sufficient_a for_o any_o man_n that_o shall_v receive_v baptism_n whereas_o there_o be_v a_o more_o distinct_a knowledge_n and_o particular_a explication_n of_o this_o faith_n in_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n set_v down_o that_o be_v to_o be_v require_v of_o they_o that_o be_v catechise_v and_o come_v to_o baptism_n in_o the_o last_o quotation_n i_o think_v there_o be_v a_o fault_n either_o in_o your_o printer_n or_o in_o your_o notebooke_n which_o set_v down_o ep_a 66._o for_o ep_n 166._o which_o be_v direct_v to_o the_o donatist_n whereas_o the_o other_o be_v to_o maximus_n but_o in_o this_o epistle_n to_o the_o donatist_n there_o be_v nothing_o that_o proove_v this_o matter_n that_o the_o scripture_n contain_v not_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n only_o he_o exhort_v the_o donatist_n to_o unity_n show_v that_o out_o of_o the_o same_o scripture_n which_o teach_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o head_n his_o body_n the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v discern_v and_o learn_v touch_v the_o twelve_o point_n of_o doctrine_n set_v down_o by_o the_o censure_n as_o not_o contain_v expresselie_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o to_o be_v believe_v master_n charke_n answer_v that_o seven_o of_o they_o be_v in_o scripture_n the_o rest_n not_o necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v but_o here_o you_o say_v the_o question_n be_v of_o express_a scripture_n and_o not_o of_o any_o far_o fetch_v place_n that_o by_o interpretation_n may_v be_v apply_v to_o a_o controversy_n if_o you_o mean_v by_o express_a scripture_n that_o which_o be_v express_v in_o so_o many_o word_n as_o the_o thing_n in_o controversy_n we_o deny_v that_o we_o have_v anysuch_o question_n with_o you_o for_o we_o hold_v that_o any_o thing_n which_o by_o necessary_a demonstration_n can_v be_v conclude_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n be_v as_o true_a as_o necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v as_o that_o which_o be_v express_v in_o plain_a word_n and_o so_o we_o mean_v when_o we_o say_v all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o as_o for_o your_o
the_o sense_n and_o true_a meaning_n of_o thing_n themselves_o and_o this_o be_v chrisostomes_n meaning_n not_o of_o tradition_n altogether_o without_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o hold_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n for_o of_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o scri_fw-la pture_n he_o speak_v in_o diverse_a place_n and_o namely_o upon_o that_o clear_a text_n 2._o tim._n 3._o hom_o 9_o of_o the_o scripiure_v he_o say_v siquid_fw-la vel_fw-la diseere_n velignorare_fw-la opus_fw-la sit_fw-la illic_fw-la addiscemus_fw-la if_o any_o thing_n be_v needefisli_v to_o know_v or_o not_o to_o know_v in_o the_o scripture_n we_o shall_v learn_v but_o because_o you_o say_v those_o word_n of_o saint_n paulare_a clear_a 2._o thess._n 2._o for_o unwritten_a traditition_n i_o pray_v you_o what_o argument_n can_v you_o conclude_v out_o of_o they_o saint_n paul_n deliver_v to_o the_o thessalonian_o something_o by_o preach_v and_o something_o by_o writing_n ergo_fw-la he_o deliver_v something_o that_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n write_v either_o by_o himself_o or_o any_o other_o of_o the_o holy_a man_n of_o god_n appoint_v for_o that_o purpose_n who_o be_v so_o childish_a think_v you_o to_o grant_v you_o this_o consequence_n therefore_o for_o any_o thing_n you_o have_v bring_v or_o can_v bring_v or_o any_o thing_n that_o the_o father_n have_v say_v or_o can_v say_v the_o word_n of_o god_n write_v ten_o be_v perfect_a and_o able_a to_o make_v a_o man_n wise_a to_o salvation_n by_o faith_n in_o jesus_n christ_n which_o be_v to_o be_v have_v sufficient_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o christ_n himself_o do_v witness_v john_n 5._o 39_o and_o so_o the_o former_a conclusion_n do_v still_o stand_v it_o be_v great_a iniquity_n to_o receive_v tradition_n altogether_o beside_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n which_o must_v needs_o argue_v the_o holy_a scripture_n of_o imperfection_n and_o unsufficiencie_n neither_o do_v the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n refute_v this_o assertion_n of_o master_n charke_n see_v the_o ancient_n as_o it_o be_v say_v speak_v either_o of_o doctrine_n not_o express_v in_o word_n but_o contain_v in_o deed_n in_o the_o scripture_n or_o else_o of_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n the_o perpetual_a observation_n where_o of_o be_v not_o necessatie_n to_o eternal_a life_n as_o be_v prove_v by_o the_o discuss_n of_o many_o of_o they_o which_o the_o elder_a father_n do_v father_n upon_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o much_o as_o any_o other_o that_o they_o name_n and_o if_o you_o say_v they_o be_v deceive_v in_o such_o as_o be_v abolish_v how_o shall_v we_o know_v that_o 〈◊〉_d not_o in_o such_o as_o be_v retain_v for_o in_o their_o 〈◊〉_d they_o be_v all_o general_o receive_v as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o such_o as_o be_v discontinue_v as_o those_o 〈◊〉_d remain_v 〈◊〉_d if_o any_o man_n will_v ask_v you_o what_o be_v these_o apostolical_a 〈◊〉_d in_o particular_a you_o can_v allege_v he_o testimony_n 〈◊〉_d ancient_a father_n for_o a_o great_a number_n but_o you_o refer_v 〈◊〉_d saint_n cyprian_n serm._n de_fw-fr ablut_fw-fr pedum_fw-la tertullian_n 〈◊〉_d milit_fw-la and_o saint_n hieron_n dialog_n contra_fw-la luciferianos_fw-la 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o shall_v find_v store_n belike_o your_o note_n book_n 〈◊〉_d you_o thither_o although_o you_o list_v not_o to_o take_v so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yourself_o but_o turn_v it_o over_o to_o your_o 〈◊〉_d howbert_n he_o that_o be_v dispose_v to_o read_v the_o sermon_n 〈◊〉_d cyprian_a shall_v find_v no_o store_n at_o all_o but_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o wash_a offcete_n which_o ceremony_n be_v take_v by_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n yet_o be_v not_o think_v necessary_a in_o the_o popish_a church_n at_o this_o day_n tertullian_n in_o deed_n have_v some_o pretty_a store_n yet_o not_o to_o maintain_v popish_a tradition_n so_o much_o as_o to_o overthrow_v they_o for_o he_o 〈◊〉_d some_o thing_n that_o be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n as_o to_o renounce_v the_o devil_n in_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n some_o that_o be_v grow_v out_o of_o use_v many_o hundred_o year_n ago_o as_o that_o the_o baptize_v shall_v taste_v of_o milk_n and_o honey_n that_o they_o shall_v abstain_v from_o wash_v seven_o day_n after_o that_o man_n shall_v sign_n their_o forehead_n at_o every_o step_n and_o proceed_n go_v forth_o and_o come_v home_o at_o put_v on_o of_o apparel_n and_o at_o pull_v on_o of_o shoe_n at_o wash_n at_o table_n at_o light_v of_o candle_n at_o bed_n at_o stool_n at_o all_o time_n and_o place_n saint_n hierome_n also_o in_o the_o person_n of_o the_o heretic_n rehearse_v traditiones_fw-la and_o among_o they_o such_o as_o papist_n do_v not_o observe_v namely_o the_o mixture_n of_o milk_n and_o honey_n give_v to_o they_o that_o be_v new_o baptize_v on_o the_o lord_n day_n and_o during_o the_o whole_a time_n of_o pentecoste_n neither_o to_o kneel_v in_o prayer_n nor_o to_o fast_o these_o be_v part_n of_o those_o apostolical_a tradition_n in_o particular_a which_o if_o they_o have_v be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n must_v have_v be_v perpetuallie_o continue_v if_o they_o be_v untruelie_o ascribe_v to_o the_o apostle_n what_o wartant_a can_v we_o have_v of_o any_o other_o see_v the_o most_o ancient_a writer_n commend_v these_o as_o much_o as_o any_o other_o for_o apostolical_a tradition_n yet_o a_o few_o other_o example_n you_o will_v add_v out_o of_o saint_n augustine_n who_o proove_v baptism_n you_o sare_z by_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n lib._n 10._o de_fw-la gen_fw-la ad_fw-la lit_fw-fr cap._n 23._o to_o this_o answer_n have_v be_v make_v sufficient_o in_o the_o 11._o section_n that_o saint_n augustine_n do_v not_o defend_v baptism_n of_o infant_n only_o by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n but_o also_o by_o the_o scripture_n likewise_o you_o say_v he_o proove_v by_o the_o same_o tradion_n that_o we_o must_v not_o rebaptize_v those_o which_o be_v baptize_v of_o heretic_n lib._n 2._o the_o bapt_a cap_a 7._o &_o lib._n 1._o cap._n 23._o &_o lib._n 4._o cap._n 6_o it_o be_v true_a that_o he_o perwsade_v himself_o that_o this_o custom_n of_o not_o rebaptise_v come_v from_o the_o apostle_n tradition_n yet_o do_v he_o by_o many_o argument_n out_o of_o scripture_n prove_v that_o such_o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v again_o which_o have_v be_v once_o baptize_v although_o by_o heretic_n and_o therefore_o he_o say_v of_o the_o same_o matter_n hoc_fw-la planè_fw-la verum_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la ratio_fw-la &_o veritas_fw-la consuetudini_fw-la praeponenda_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la cùm_fw-la consuetudini_fw-la veritas_fw-la suffragatur_fw-la nihil_fw-la oportet_fw-la firmius_fw-la retineri_fw-la this_o be_v plain_o true_a that_o reason_n and_o truth_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o custom_n but_o when_o truth_n consent_v with_o custom_n nothing_o ought_v more_o steadefastlie_o to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d you_o see_v therefore_o that_o he_o build_v not_o only_o upon_o custom_n or_o tradition_n which_o be_v the_o matter_n in_o question_n but_o upon_o truth_n and_o reason_n which_o be_v found_v by_o the_o holy_a scriptuer_n your_o middle_a quotation_n the_o bap_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 23._o you_o may_v correct_v against_o your_o nextreplie_n for_o there_o be_v but_o 19_o chapter_n in_o that_o book_n again_o you_o say_v he_o proove_v by_o tradition_n the_o celebration_n of_o the_o pentecost_n common_o call_v whitsuntide_n ep_v 11_o etc._n etc._n 1._o if_o it_o be_v as_o you_o say_v it_o be_v but_o a_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n not_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o alter_v as_o many_o like_a which_o be_v abrogate_a but_o in_o truth_n he_o proove_v it_o not_o as_o you_o say_v by_o tradition_n for_o these_o be_v his_o word_n illa_fw-la autem_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la scripta_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v keep_v be_v not_o write_v but_o deliver_v which_o be_v observe_v throughout_o all_o the_o world_n it_o be_v give_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o they_o be_v retain_v as_o commend_v and_o decree_v either_o by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o or_o by_o general_a counsel_n the_o authority_n of_o which_o be_v most_o whollesome_a in_o the_o church_n as_o that_o the_o passion_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o his_o resurrection_n &_o ascension_n into_o heaven_n and_o the_o come_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o heaven_n be_v celebrate_v with_o yearly_a solemnity_n you_o see_v by_o his_o own_o word_n that_o he_o be_v not_o certain_a whether_o he_o shall_v lay_v this_o ceremonial_a celebration_n upon_o delivery_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o upon_o decree_n of_o general_a coun_n cell_n and_o whencesoever_o they_o come_v the_o matter_n be_v not_o great_a in_o such_o thing_n as_o of_o their_o own_o nature_n be_v indifferent_a and_o therefore_o alterable_a by_o discretion_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o time_n whether_o the_o apostle_n be_v baptize_v which_o be_v
the_o next_o matter_n that_o you_o say_v he_o prnove_v by_o tradition_n it_o be_v a_o question_n not_o so_o needful_a to_o be_v decide_v although_o it_o may_v be_v prove_v out_o of_o scripture_n that_o some_o of_o 7._o they_o which_o be_v johns_n disciple_n be_v baptize_v by_o he_o and_o so_o it_o be_v like_o be_v all_o the_o rest_n see_v jerusalem_n and_o all_o jury_n and_o all_o the_o coast_n near_o unto_o jordan_n be_v baptize_v 14_o by_o john_n even_o to_o the_o pharisee_n and_o saducee_v publican_n and_o soldier_n it_o be_v not_o probable_a that_o the_o apostle_n who_o before_o their_o call_n by_o christ_n be_v of_o honest_a and_o devout_a conversation_n do_v neglect_v that_o divine_a institution_n which_o all_o man_n that_o will_v seem_v to_o be_v religious_a make_v haste_n to_o receive_v furthermore_o you_o say_v he_o proove_v by_o tradition_n the_o ceremony_n of_o baptism_n as_o deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n lib._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o oper._n cap._n 9_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o the_o eunuch_n who_o philip_n baptize_v make_v such_o profession_n of_o his_o faith_n etc._n etc._n renounce_v of_o the_o devil_n as_o be_v require_v of_o they_o that_o be_v baptize_v when_o the_o scripture_n make_v mention_v only_o of_o a_o short_a confession_n that_o jesus_n christ_n be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n where_o saint_n augustine_n show_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n will_v have_v we_o to_o understand_v that_o all-thing_n be_v fulfil_v in_o his_o baptism_n which_o though_o they_o be_v not_o express_v in_o that_o scripture_n for_o brevity_n sake_n yet_o by_o order_n of_o the_o tradition_n we_o know_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v fulfil_v where_o tradition_n be_v not_o take_v for_o that_o which_o be_v altogether_o beside_o the_o scripture_n but_o that_o which_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n deliver_v what_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v concern_v the_o celebration_n of_o that_o sacrament_n which_o be_v the_o seal_n of_o mortification_n and_o regeneration_n that_o the_o lord_n supper_n shall_v be_v receive_v before_o other_o 118._o meat_n he_o think_v of_o it_o as_o of_o other_o ceremontall_a matter_n that_o it_o come_v either_o from_o apostolic_a tradition_n or_o from_o decree_n of_o general_a council_n yet_o be_v it_o a_o thing_n not_o necessary_a always_o to_o be_v observe_v for_o yourselves_o do_v housell_n sick_a folk_n at_o all_o time_n of_o the_o day_n or_o night_n without_o respect_n whether_o they_o have_v taste_v any_o thing_n or_o no_o otherwise_o as_o a_o matter_n of_o order_n and_o decency_n it_o be_v observe_v of_o we_o also_o to_o minister_v that_o sacrament_n before_o dinner_n and_o to_o they_o that_o be_v fast_v if_o the_o case_n of_o necessity_n require_v not_o the_o contrary_a yet_o again_o you_o say_v he_o proove_v by_o tradition_n the_o exorcism_n of_o such_o as_o shall_v be_v baptize_v l._n the_o nupt_a &_o concu_n cap._n 20._o &_o l._n 6._o cont_n julian._n c._n 2._o but_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o by_o the_o ceremony_n of_o exorcism_n exsufflation_n and_o renunciation_n that_o be_v use_v in_o baptism_n he_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o infant_n before_o baptism_n be_v in_o original_a sin_n and_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o devil_n as_o be_v evident_a by_o both_o the_o place_n which_o prove_v not_o exorcism_n to_o have_v be_v receive_v by_o tradition_n but_o by_o the_o end_n of_o that_o ceremony_n upon_o what_o beginning_n soever_o use_v in_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n that_o infant_n be_v bear_v in_o original_a sin_n and_o subject_a to_o the_o power_n of_o satan_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v the_o word_n of_o the_o former_a place_n be_v these_o in_o veritate_fw-la itaque_fw-la non_fw-la in_o falsitate_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o truth_n therefore_o not_o in_o falsehood_n the_o devil_n power_n be_v exorcise_v in_o infant_n and_o they_o renounce_v he_o by_o the_o heart_n and_o mouth_n of_o their_o bearer_n because_o they_o can_v by_o their_o own_o that_o be_v deliver_v from_o the_o power_n of_o dark_a nes_z they_o may_v be_v translate_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o their_o lord_n here_o be_v never_o a_o word_n of_o tradition_n the_o second_o place_n have_v these_o word_n sedetsi_n nullaratione_fw-la indagetur_fw-la nullo_fw-la sermone_fw-la explicetur_fw-la verum_fw-la est_fw-la tamen_fw-la quòd_fw-la antiquitas_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o although_o it_o original_a sin_n may_v be_v seek_v out_o by_o no_o reason_n by_o no_o speech_n it_o may_v be_v express_v yet_o be_v it_o true_a that_o by_o true_a catholic_a faith_n from_o ancient_a time_n be_v preach_v and_o believe_v throughout_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o will_v neither_o exorcise_v nor_o exsufflate_v the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a if_o she_o do_v not_o deliver_v they_o from_o the_o power_n of_o darkness_n and_o from_o the_o prince_n of_o death_n here_o the_o ancient_a doctrine_n of_o original_a sin_n be_v confirm_v by_o the_o old_a ceremony_n of_o exorcism_n and_o exsufflation_n which_o be_v use_v in_o baptism_n to_o signify_v that_o infant_n be_v by_o that_o sacrament_n deliver_v from_o the_o guilt_n of_o original_a sin_n by_o which_o they_o be_v under_o the_o power_n of_o darkness_n and_o death_n but_o that_o these_o ceremony_n be_v apostolic_a tradition_n he_o say_v not_o or_o that_o they_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o 〈◊〉_d use_v in_o baptism_n when_o the_o one_o of_o they_o namely_o 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o use_v at_o this_o day_n for_o aught_o i_o know_v in_o the_o popish_a form_n of_o baptism_n the_o moscovite_n in_o place_n of_o it_o as_o it_o seem_v use_v excreation_n for_o when_o the_o godfather_n and_o godmother_n answer_v that_o they_o renounce_v the_o devil_n they_o spit_v out_o one_o the_o earth_n as_o it_o be_v in_o sign_n of_o detestation_n in_o saint_n augustine_n time_n they_o use_v to_o blow_v out_o in_o the_o last_o place_n you_o say_v he_o proove_v by_o the_o same_o tradition_n that_o we_o must_v offer_v up_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n for_o the_o dead_a lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mort_fw-fr agenda_fw-la cap._n 1._o &_o 4._o serm_n 32._o de_fw-la verbis_fw-la apostoli_fw-la of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n saint_n augustine_n speak_v nothing_o but_o that_o prayer_n be_v offer_v for_o the_o dead_a at_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o he_o call_v sacrifice_n he_o say_v it_o be_v by_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o be_v notable_a in_o that_o custom_n and_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n observe_v it_o as_o deliver_v from_o their_o father_n but_o see_v the_o elder_a church_n for_o more_o than_o a_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n have_v no_o such_o custom_n nor_o doctrine_n and_o especial_o see_v the_o same_o custom_n be_v against_o faith_n teach_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o the_o dead_a in_o the_o lord_n be_v bless_v that_o judgement_n follow_v immediate_o after_o death_n etc._n etc._n the_o authority_n of_o faith_n and_o truth_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o the_o tradition_n and_o custom_n of_o man_n neither_o be_v it_o to_o be_v think_v to_o have_v proceed_v from_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v disproove_v by_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o only_a certain_a witness_n of_o the_o doctrine_n deliver_v by_o they_o which_o be_v necessary_a for_o we_o to_o beeleeve_v and_o follow_v and_o therefore_o this_o new_a sir_n censurer_n do_v great_o abuse_v the_o old_a saint_n who_o he_o will_v have_v patroness_n of_o his_o unwritten_a verity_n partly_o in_o charge_v they_o to_o refer_v unto_o tradition_n many_o thing_n that_o they_o do_v not_o partly_o in_o draw_v to_o doctrine_n necessary_a that_o which_o they_o speak_v of_o ceremony_n mutable_a &_o not_o the_o least_o in_o pick_v out_o one_o or_o two_o oversighte_n to_o be_v pardon_v under_o colour_n of_o they_o to_o maintain_v all_o the_o gross_a heresy_n of_o popery_n that_o be_v intolerable_a the_o fourteen_o section_n whether_o the_o jesuite_n speak_v evil_a of_o scripture_n art_n 6._o entitle_v nose_n of_o wax_n if_o you_o have_v ser_fw-mi down_o master_n charke_n reply_v between_o your_o censure_n and_o your_o defence_n as_o reason_n will_v you_o shall_v have_v do_v for_o man_n to_o judge_v indifferent_o between_o both_o you_o may_v have_v spare_v more_o than_o two_o page_n which_o you_o have_v spend_v in_o charge_v he_o with_o a_o slander_n of_o the_o jesuite_n where_o he_o report_v that_o they_o say_v the_o scripture_n be_v a_o nose_n of_o wax_n when_o they_o say_v it_o be_v as_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n for_o no_o reasonable_a man_n can_v make_v any_o other_o sense_n of_o those_o word_n the_o scripture_n be_v a_o nose_n of_o wax_n but_o even_o the_o same_o that_o you_o confess_v to_o be_v the_o say_n of_o the_o jesuite_n the_o scripture_n be_v as_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n as_o master_n charke_n tell_v you_o and_o moreover_o that_o paiva_fw-mi say_v the_o father_n
conscience_n of_o man_n to_o sanctify_v they_o by_o their_o work_n who_o christ_n by_o his_o only_a oblation_n have_v make_v perfect_a for_o ever_o they_o that_o hold_v these_o point_n deny_v christ_n to_o be_v a_o perfect_a prophet_n king_n and_o priest_n but_o these_o be_v deep_a mystery_n of_o puritanism_n say_v the_o answerer_n christ_n be_v a_o prophet_n alone_o a_o king_n alone_o a_o priest_n alone_o the_o overthrow_n of_o all_o government_n no_o sir_n no_o to_o acknowledge_v christ_n to_o be_v our_o only_a prophet_n king_n and_o priest_n overthrow_v not_o but_o establish_v all_o power_n that_o be_v ordain_v under_o he_o to_o teach_v govern_v and_o sanctify_v the_o scripture_n in_o deed_n eph._n 4._o &_o acts._n 5._o do_v allow_v prophet_n and_o teacher_n in_o the_o church_n but_o not_o author_n of_o new_a doctrine_n no_o maker_n of_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n no_o tradition_n beside_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v write_v that_o we_o may_v believe_v and_o believe_v have_v eternal_a life_n in_o his_o name_n the_o scripture_n allow_v 31._o king_n and_o ruler_n 1._o pet._n 2._o act._n 2._o but_o the_o scripture_n give_v no_o authority_n to_o any_o king_n or_o ruler_n to_o dispense_v against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n nor_o to_o any_o prophet_n or_o priest_n to_o discharge_v subject_n of_o their_o oath_n make_v to_o their_o lawful_a prince_n to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n of_o man_n with_o new_a constitution_n as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n etc._n etc._n but_o whereas_o you_o ask_v whether_o priest_n may_v not_o sanctify_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n 2._o tim._n 4._o you_o be_v near_o drive_v for_o proof_n for_o to_o omit_v that_o the_o chapter_n you_o quote_v have_v never_o a_o word_n either_o of_o priest_n or_o sanctify_a and_o to_o take_v your_o meaning_n to_o be_v of_o 1._o tim._n 4._o verse_n 5._o the_o apostle_n speak_v not_o of_o the_o priest_n or_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n power_n of_o sanctify_v but_o of_o every_o christian_a man_n and_o woman_n to_o who_o every_o creature_n of_o god_n in_o the_o right_a use_n thereof_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o prayer_n and_o against_o they_o that_o forbid_v thing_n consecrate_v and_o allow_v by_o god_n as_o matrimony_n and_o meat_n sanctify_v by_o his_o word_n that_o have_v give_v they_o to_o be_v receive_v with_o thanksgiving_n and_o by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o thankful_a receiver_n as_o a_o mean_a to_o obtain_v sanctification_n 4._o from_o god_n who_o only_o be_v holy_a and_o therefore_o have_v only_a power_n proper_o to_o sanctify_v and_o to_o enjoin_v as_o more_o holy_a by_o their_o own_o make_n and_o not_o by_o god_n sanctification_n virginity_n then_o matrimony_n fish_n then_o flesh_n yca_fw-la take_v upon_o they_o to_o sanctify_v god_n creature_n in_o a_o other_o use_n than_o god_n have_v appoint_v they_o as_o water_n fire_n garment_n bough_n flower_n bread_n and_o such_o like_a for_o religion_n and_o sanctify_v of_o christian_a man_n again_o he_o ask_v what_o do_v the_o tradition_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n for_o of_o those_o only_o they_o talk_v when_o they_o compare_v they_o with_o scripture_n impeach_v the_o teach_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n i_o answer_v there_o be_v no_o tradition_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n pertain_v to_o a_o christian_a 22._o man_n duty_n to_o obtain_v erernall_a life_n but_o those_o that_o be_v comprehend_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n which_o can_v lie_v do_v testify_v and_o therefore_o they_o be_v the_o tradition_n of_o man_n and_o not_o of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n that_o areso_fw-mi call_v under_o which_o title_n all_o heresy_n &_o fancy_n may_v be_v bring_v in_o without_o testimony_n of_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n wherefore_o such_o tradition_n do_v great_o impeach_v the_o office_n of_o christ_n teach_n reprove_v his_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n of_o imperfection_n if_o they_o have_v not_o comprehend_v the_o sum_n of_o all_o that_o christ_n teach_v and_o do_v for_o our_o salvation_n which_o saint_n luke_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o gospel_n do_v profess_v that_o he_o have_v do_v and_o that_o very_o exact_o and_o further_o it_o be_v false_a that_o our_o answerer_n say_v they_o talk_v of_o the_o tradition_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n only_o when_o they_o compare_v they_o with_o scripture_n for_o they_o compare_v the_o decree_n of_o their_o pope_n and_o of_o their_o general_a counsel_n allow_v by_o he_o to_o be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o well_o as_o tradition_n secondlie_o he_o ask_v what_o do_v the_o spiritual_a authorttie_n of_o the_o pope_n under_o christ_n diminish_v the_o kingly_a power_n and_o authority_n of_o christ_n i_o answer_v the_o pope_n have_v no_o spiritual_a authority_n under_o christ_n by_o any_o grant_n of_o christ_n but_o he_o usurp_v authority_n above_o christ_n when_o he_o will_v control_v the_o law_n and_o institution_n of_o christ_n as_o deny_v the_o cup_n of_o blessing_n unto_o the_o lie_v people_n and_o in_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o make_v new_a law_n and_o to_o enjoin_v man_n to_o observe_v they_o in_o pain_n of_o damnation_n as_o be_v his_o law_n of_o abstinence_n from_o marriage_n and_o meat_n for_o religion_n sake_n which_o christ_n have_v leave_v free_a for_o all_o man_n even_o for_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o a_o hundred_o matter_n beside_o last_o of_o all_o he_o ask_v how_o do_v the_o priesthood_n of_o man_n as_o from_o christ_n or_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n institute_v by_o christ_n disgrace_n christ_n priesthood_n or_o his_o sufficient_a sacrifice_n once_o for_o all_o offer_v on_o the_o cross_n i_o answer_v the_o priesthood_n of_o reconcile_n by_o sacrifice_n do_v not_o pass_v from_o christ_n to_o any_o man_n because_o he_o have_v by_o one_o sacrifice_n make_v perfect_a for_o ever_o all_o that_o be_v sanctify_v and_o live_v for_o ever_o to_o make_v intercession_n for_o we_o therefore_o have_v as_o the_o apostle_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o priesthood_n that_o pass_v not_o to_o any_o other_o in_o succession_n 24._o as_o aaron_n priesthood_n do_v whereby_o he_o be_v able_a to_o save_v for_o ever_o those_o that_o come_v unto_o god_n by_o he_o again_o i_o deny_v that_o christ_n do_v institute_v that_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n whereof_o there_o be_v no_o word_n in_o all_o the_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o a_o new_a priesthood_n and_o a_o new_a sacrifice_n must_v needs_o be_v blaspemous_a against_o the_o eternal_a priesthood_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o one_o sufficient_a sacrifice_n which_o he_o offer_v and_o thereby_o find_v eternal_a redemption_n the_o text_n allege_v by_o master_n charke_n heb._n 7._o &_o 9_o he_o say_v do_v not_o impeach_v this_o daily_a sacrifice_n of_o they_o because_o they_o grant_v that_o sacrifice_n once_o offer_v etc._n etc._n in_o that_o manner_n as_o it_o be_v then_o do_v mean_v bloodelie_o whereas_o they_o offer_v it_o unbloodelie_o etc._n etc._n but_o the_o whole_a discourse_n of_o the_o aposile_a throughout_o the_o whole_a epistle_n almost_o exclude_v all_o repetition_n of_o that_o sacrifice_n in_o any_o manner_n for_o therepetition_n of_o the_o same_o sacrifice_n shall_v argue_v imperfection_n in_o it_o 25_o as_o it_o do_v in_o the_o jewish_a sacrifice_n and_o without_o shed_v of_o blood_n there_o be_v noremission_n of_o sin_n be_v christ_n shall_v be_v often_o offer_v he_o shall_v often_o suffer_v all_o which_o be_v impossible_a it_o remain_v that_o as_o christ_n offer_v himself_o but_o once_o and_o not_o often_o so_o no_o man_n have_v authority_n or_o power_n to_o offer_v he_o any_o more_o neither_o be_v there_o any_o need_n he_o shall_v be_v more_o than_o once_o offer_v see_v by_o that_o one_o oblation_n he_o have_v make_v perfect_a for_o ever_o all_o that_o be_v sanctify_v 14._o and_o have_v find_v eternal_a redemption_n for_o all_o that_o believe_v in_o he_o but_o for_o proof_n that_o there_o must_v be_v such_o a_o daily_a sacrifice_n in_o the_o church_n until_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n he_o alledgeiu_o the_o prophecy_n of_o daniel_n 12._o &_o malachi_n 1._o whereas_o daniel_n speak_v of_o the_o daily_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o law_n which_o shall_v cease_v in_o the_o persecution_n of_o antiochus_n and_o be_v 9_o utter_o abolish_v by_o the_o death_n of_o christ._n and_o malachic_a of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o praise_n and_o thankesgeve_a which_o by_o all_o nation_n be_v offer_v as_o a_o pure_a sacrifice_n and_o 15._o acceptable_a to_o he_o through_o christ._n the_o former_a exposition_n be_v allow_v by_o s._n jerome_n to_o be_v verify_v of_o antiochus_n in_o a_o type_n of_o antichrist_n who_o shall_v forbid_v culium_fw-la dei_fw-la the_o worship_n of_o god_n which_o do_v not_o require_v any_o 12._o such_o
they_o peaceable_o she_o be_v declare_v to_o be_v just_a or_o justify_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o man_n therefore_o there_o be_v two_o kind_n of_o justification_n the_o one_o by_o faith_n before_o god_n the_o other_o by_o work_n before_o man_n therefore_o a_o man_n be_v not_o justify_v by_o faith_n only_o but_o by_o work_n also_o which_o say_v of_o s._n jamesis_n not_o repugnant_a to_o that_o we_o hold_v that_o a_o man_n be_v justify_v before_o god_n sola_fw-la fide_fw-la by_o faith_n alone_o or_o by_o faith_n without_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n as_o s._n paul_n say_v which_o be_v alone_o which_o comprehend_v all_o good_a work_n 28._o as_o also_o the_o example_n of_o abraham_n and_o david_n in_o the_o 4._o chapter_n to_o the_o roman_n doc_fw-fr plain_o declare_v where_o the_o apostle_n speak_v expresle_o of_o circumcision_n which_o be_v a_o work_n of_o obedience_n follow_v the_o faith_n of_o abraham_n and_o david_n pronounce_v the_o blessedness_n of_o a_o man_n to_o who_o the_o lord_n impute_v righteousness_n without_o work_n which_o 6._o must_v needs_o be_v understand_v even_o of_o work_n follow_v faith_n because_o david_n speak_v of_o himself_o and_o of_o all_o man_n general_o that_o shall_v obtain_v blessedness_n by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n without_o merit_n of_o work_n for_o to_o he_o that_o work_v reward_n be_v not_o impute_v according_a to_o grace_n but_o according_a to_o debt_n again_o the_o apostle_n write_v to_o the_o galathian_o 4._o which_o be_v faithful_a speak_v general_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o by_o the_o law_n no_o man_n be_v justify_v before_o god_n for_o the_o just_a shall_v live_v by_o faith_n by_o which_o text_n &_o many_o more_o the_o conclusion_n 11._o be_v most_o necessary_a that_o before_o god_n work_v follow_v faith_n do_v not_o iuslifie_v but_o faith_n alone_o without_o work_n yet_o not_o a_o dead_a but_o a_o live_a faith_n which_o work_v by_o love_n further_a he_o say_v they_o have_v expresselie_o for_o absolution_n who_o sin_n you_o forgive_v be_v forgive_v who_o sin_n you_o retain_v be_v retain_v john_n 20._o but_o we_o have_v not_o where_o that_o priest_n can_v forgive_v or_o retain_v sin_n in_o earth_n but_o the_o controversy_n be_v not_o whether_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n have_v power_n to_o forgive_v or_o retain_v sin_n for_o we_o believe_v that_o they_o have_v such_o power_n but_o whether_o absolute_a power_n proper_o to_o forgive_v sin_n and_o how_o the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v exercise_v be_v the_o question_n for_o we_o believe_v that_o god_n only_o have_v power_n absolute_o &_o proper_o 12._o to_o remit_v sin_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n man_n by_o declare_v god_n will_v &_o pleasure_n yet_o again_o they_o have_v expresselie_o the_o doer_n of_o the_o law_n shall_v be_v justify_v rom._n 2._o and_o we_o say_v even_o as_o much_o but_o because_o none_o be_v find_v a_o doer_n of_o the_o law_n we_o say_v with_o the_o same_o apostle_n that_o 11._o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o no_o man_n be_v justify_v before_o god_n by_o the_o law_n but_o our_o answerer_n infer_v moreover_o that_o we_o have_v not_o where_o that_o the_o law_n require_v at_o christian_n hand_n be_v impossible_a or_o that_o the_o do_v thereof_o justifi_v not_o christian_n yes_o we_o have_v it_o express_o that_o which_o be_v impossible_a of_o the_o law_n 3._o in_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v weak_a by_o the_o flesh_n god_n send_v his_o son_n in_o the_o similitude_n of_o sinful_a flesh_n etc._n etc._n if_o there_o have_v be_v a_o law_n give_v that_o have_v be_v able_a to_o give_v life_n righteousness_n in_o deed_n have_v be_v of_o the_o law_n but_o the_o scripture_n have_v conclude_v all_o under_o 22._o sin_n that_o the_o promise_n by_o the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n christ_n may_v be_v give_v to_o they_o that_o belecue_v again_o by_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n no_o flesh_n shall_v be_v justify_v before_o he_o therefore_o no_o christian_n 20._o by_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n shall_v be_v justify_v before_o he_o moreover_o we_o be_v save_v by_o grace_n through_o faith_n not_o of_o work_n ergo_fw-la christian_n for_o none_o else_o be_v save_v be_v justify_v through_o faith_n without_o work_n yet_o again_o they_o have_v expresselie_o psal._n 75._o vow_v you_o and_o render_v your_o vow_n we_o haut_fw-fr not_o where_o vow_v you_o not_o or_o if_o you_o have_v vow_v break_v your_o vow_n we_o confess_v the_o prophet_n will_v the_o people_n to_o vow_v yet_o he_o mean_v only_a thing_n lawful_a and_o in_o their_o power_n to_o perform_v we_o bid_v no_o man_n to_o break_v his_o vow_n if_o it_o be_v lawful_a and_o possible_a but_o if_o he_o have_v vow_v to_o go_v a_o pilgrimage_n which_o be_v idolatry_n or_o to_o live_v unmarried_a which_o be_v not_o able_a to_o live_v continentlie_o we_o exhort_v he_o to_o repent_v of_o his_o wicked_a or_o unaduised_a vow_n &_o 30_o to_o serve_v god_n as_o he_o have_v appoint_v or_o to_o use_v the_o remedy_n that_o god_n have_v provide_v they_o have_v again_o express_o 7._o keep_v the_o tradition_n which_o you_o have_v learn_v either_o by_o word_n or_o epistle_n 2._o thess._n 2._o we_o have_v not_o where_o the_o apostle_n leave_v no_o tradition_n to_o the_o church_n unwritten_a saint_n paul_n will_v the_o thessalonian_o to_o keep_v the_o tradition_n or_o doctrine_n which_o he_o have_v deliver_v unto_o they_o either_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n or_o by_o his_o epistle_n this_o proove_v not_o that_o the_o apostle_n leave_v any_o tradition_n which_o be_v not_o where_o write_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n because_o they_o be_v not_o all_o write_v in_o the_o epistle_n of_o saint_n paul_n to_o the_o thessalonian_o but_o we_o have_v expresselie_o that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v able_a to_o make_v we_o wise_a to_o salvation_n to_o make_v the_o man_n of_o god_n perfect_a and_o prepare_v to_o all_o 15._o good_a work_n which_o thing_n see_v we_o have_v fufficientlie_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n we_o neither_o regard_n nor_o receive_v any_o other_o doctrine_n under_o name_n of_o tradition_n of_o the_o apo_n stle_n or_o of_o angel_n from_o heaven_n still_o they_o have_v expresselie_o if_o thou_o will_v enter_v into_o life_n keep_v the_o commandment_n and_o when_o he_o say_v he_o do_v that_o already_o if_o thou_o will_v be_v perfect_a go_v &_o sell_v all_o thou_o have_v &_o give_v to_o the_o poor_a &_o follow_v i_o and_o we_o have_v not_o where_o that_o either_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n can_v be_v keep_v or_o that_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v unto_o they_o or_o that_o there_o be_v no_o degree_n of_o life_n one_o perfect_a than_o another_o we_o grant_v that_o who_o so_o by_o good_a deed_n will_v seek_v to_o enter_v into_o life_n as_o that_o young_a man_n do_v must_v do_v the_o deed_n of_o the_o commandment_n which_o if_o he_o can_v do_v he_o shall_v live_v by_o they_o but_o albeit_o he_o boast_v that_o he_o have_v keep_v the_o commandment_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o he_o do_v keep_v they_o indeed_o and_o as_o god_n require_v but_o be_v a_o blind_a hypocrite_n and_o seek_v to_o justify_v himself_o according_a to_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o pharisy_n that_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o keep_v the_o commandment_n as_o near_o as_o god_n will_v give_v we_o grace_n be_v no_o article_n of_o we_o but_o a_o slander_n of_o he_o final_o we_o deny_v that_o any_o mortal_a man_n life_n be_v perfect_a yet_o we_o grant_v that_o some_o man_n life_n come_v near_o to_o perfection_n then_o other_o some_o neither_o do_v our_o saviour_n word_n include_v perfection_n in_o sell_v his_o good_n nor_o in_o give_v they_o to_o the_o poor_a for_o if_o a_o man_n bestow_v all_o his_o good_n to_o feed_v the_o poor_a and_o have_v not_o love_n he_o be_v nothing_o but_o he_o add_v that_o he_o must_v follow_v christ_n and_o take_v up_o his_o cross_n and_o so_o by_o christ_n grace_n 13._o he_o shall_v attain_v unto_o perfection_n which_o he_o false_o imagine_v that_o he_o he_o have_v obtain_v by_o a_o pharizaical_a observation_n 10._o of_o the_o law_n this_o favore_v not_o monk_n and_o friar_n more_o than_o hypocrite_n and_o liar_n beside_o this_o they_o have_v expresselie_o work_v your_o own_o salvation_n with_o fear_n and_o tremhle_v phil._n 2._o we_o have_v not_o where_o either_o that_o a_o man_n can_v work_v nothing_o towards_o his_o own_o salvation_n be_v holpen_v with_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n or_o that_o a_o man_n shall_v make_v it_o of_o his_o belief_n that_o he_o shall_v be_v save_v without_o all_o doubt_n or_o fear_n the_o say_n of_o saint_n paul_n we_o acknowledge_v that_o man_n shall_v work_v out_o their_o own_o salvation_n with_o fear_n and_o tremble_a together_o with_o the_o next_o verse_n follow_v for_o 13._o it_o be_v god_n that_o work_v in_o
the_o lord_n day_n here_o you_o cavil_v that_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o saturdaie_o or_o sondaie_n much_o less_o of_o celebration_n of_o either_o and_o least_o of_o all_o of_o the_o change_n of_o the_o sabbath_n into_o a_o other_o day_n but_o if_o it_o please_v your_o censurship_n be_v you_o ignorant_a what_o day_n of_o the_o week_n be_v call_v die_v dominicus_n the_o lordsday_n whether_o saturdaie_o or_o sondaie_n if_o it_o be_v sondaie_n as_o all_o professor_n of_o christ_n name_n confess_v here_o be_v as_o much_o mention_n thereof_o as_o be_v needful_a for_o the_o day_n into_o which_o the_o change_n be_v make_v or_o if_o that_o be_v not_o sufficient_a you_o may_v have_v further_o act._n 20._o 7._o 1._o cor._n 16._o 2._o and_o why_o be_v the_o first_o of_o the_o sabbath_n call_v the_o lord_n day_n but_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o celebration_n there_o of_o in_o honour_n of_o the_o redemption_n of_o the_o world_n by_o christ_n for_o otherwise_o all_o day_n of_o the_o week_n be_v the_o lord_n day_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o creation_n thirdlie_o see_v the_o lord_n day_n be_v one_o day_n in_o the_o week_n use_v for_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n for_o their_o spiritual_a exercise_n of_o religion_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o change_n of_o the_o jewish_a sabbath_n be_v make_v into_o that_o day_n except_o you_o will_v be_v so_o waywatd_v to_o say_v there_o be_v two_o day_n in_o every_o week_n appoint_v by_o god_n to_o be_v celebrate_v whereas_o the_o law_n of_o god_n require_v but_o one_o and_o give_v liberty_n of_o bodelie_a exercise_n in_o six_o day_n so_o that_o the_o change_n of_o the_o sabbath_n day_n be_v sufficient_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n into_o the_o lord_n day_n the_o sixth_o point_n be_v about_o four_o gospel_n and_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n which_o master_n charke_n say_v to_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n but_o yet_o he_o quote_v no_o place_n of_o scripture_n where_o only_o he_o say_v the_o inscription_n express_v the_o name_n of_o the_o writer_n but_o what_o a_o mocker_n be_v this_o you_o say_v be_v the_o bare_a name_n of_o the_o apostle_n sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v write_v by_o they_o who_o can_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o these_o name_n be_v not_o counterfeit_a as_o in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o laodicean_n in_o the_o gospel_n of_o bartholomew_n and_o thomas_n etc._n etc._n but_o abide_v you_o sir_n your_o question_n have_v two_o branch_n the_o one_o that_o the_o 4._o go_v spell_n be_v true_a gospel_n the_o other_o that_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n be_v write_v by_o saint_n paul_n and_o not_o that_o to_o the_o laodicean_n to_o the_o former_a it_o be_v answer_v that_o they_o be_v prove_v by_o other_o undoubted_a book_n of_o the_o scripture_n both_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o the_o new_a sece_v they_o declare_v that_o to_o be_v fullfil_v of_o christ_n which_o be_v speak_v in_o the_o law_n in_o the_o prophet_n and_o in_o the_o psalm_n to_o the_o other_o it_o be_v answer_v that_o admit_v the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n to_o be_v scripture_n the_o inscription_n of_o his_o name_n be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v write_v by_o saint_n paul_n and_o so_o of_o there_a although_o the_o name_n of_o the_o writer_n be_v not_o material_a unto_o salvation_n when_o the_o book_n be_v receive_v to_o be_v canonical_a as_o diverse_a book_n of_o scripture_n be_v receive_v who_o writer_n be_v unknown_a that_o epistle_n which_o be_v call_v to_o the_o laodician_n be_v not_o receive_v and_o therefore_o the_o inscription_n be_v unsufficient_a as_o the_o gospel_n of_o bartholomew_n and_o thomas_n and_o such_o like_a which_o be_v know_v to_o be_v countefet_fw-fr by_o the_o dissent_n they_o have_v from_o the_o other_o canonical_a scripture_n whereas_o you_o require_v one_o place_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v all_o the_o four_o gospel_n to_o be_v canonical_a you_o declare_v your_o wrangle_n and_o wayward_a spirit_n but_o name_v you_o any_o one_o point_n of_o doctrine_n write_v in_o any_o of_o those_o four_o gospel_n and_o the_o same_o shall_v be_v advouch_v by_o other_o text_n of_o scripture_n and_o so_o may_v eucrie_v point_n contain_v in_o they_o if_o need_n be_v but_o you_o affirm_v that_o origen_n say_v he_o reject_v the_o gospel_n of_o saint_n thomas_n only_o for_o that_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n receive_v it_o not_o which_o be_v false_a he_o say_v he_o have_v read_v the_o gospel_n after_o thomas_n after_o mathias_n and_o many_o other_o say_v in_o his_o omnibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la probamus_fw-la niss_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la idest_fw-la quatuor_fw-la tantùm_fw-la evangelia_fw-la recipienda_fw-la but_o in_o all_o these_o we_o allow_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o which_o the_o church_n allow_v that_o be_v that_o only_o four_o gospel_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v in_o these_o word_n he_o affirm_v that_o he_o approove_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v not_o that_o the_o judgement_n or_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n be_v the_o only_a cause_n why_o he_o reject_v those_o gospel_n for_o he_o say_v before_o they_o be_v receive_v of_o heretic_n and_o wherefore_o but_o in_o maintenance_n of_o their_o heresy_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o all_o counterfeit_a go_v spell_n be_v reject_v by_o the_o church_n it_o be_v confess_v but_o the_o church_n have_v this_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n confirm_v by_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n against_o which_o epiphanius_n say_v nothing_o but_o when_o faustus_n the_o manichie_n 46._o deny_v the_o gospel_n of_o saint_n matthew_n say_v you_o say_v not_o s._n augustine_n mathaei_n euangelium_fw-la probatum_fw-la adversus_fw-la faustum_n manichaeum_fw-la per_fw-la traditionem_fw-la the_o gospel_n of_o matthew_n be_v allege_v against_o faustus_n the_o manichie_n by_o tradition_n august_n lib._n 28._o cont._n faust._n c._n 2._o if_o you_o ask_v i_o i_o say_v no_o he_o have_v no_o such_o word_n yet_o do_v he_o avouch_v the_o gospel_n of_o saint_n matthew_n in_o that_o chapter_n by_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n from_o the_o apostle_n by_o continual_a succession_n even_o unto_o his_o time_n against_o the_o manichee_n but_o in_o far_o other_o word_n than_o you_o have_v set_v down_o in_o steed_n of_o saint_n augustine_n word_n by_o which_o the_o reader_n may_v once_o against_o perceive_v how_o impudent_o and_o ignorantlie_o you_o ailedge_n whatsoever_o the_o note_n book_n which_o be_v never_o of_o your_o own_o gatheriug_n because_o you_o understand_v it_o not_o do_v minister_v unto_o you_o for_o these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o collector_n of_o your_o note_n &_o not_o of_o s._n augustine_n may_v not_o the_o papist_n have_v great_a joy_n of_o such_o a_o cenfure_n &_o defender_n yet_o you_o triumph_n like_o a_o justie_a champion_n and_o ask_v what_o can_v be_v more_o evident_a than_o all_o this_o to_o prove_v our_o opinion_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o tradition_n &_o to_o confound_v the_o fond_a madness_n of_o this_o poor_a minister_n alas_o poor_a defender_n what_o weighty_a evidencethou_a haste_n bring_v to_o prove_v the_o necessity_n of_o tradition_n which_o proove_v thou_o to_o be_v a_o blind_a beggarly_a &_o yet_o a_o bold_a broacher_n of_o other_o man_n note_n which_o thou_o understand_v not_o thyself_o the_o seven_o doctrine_n which_o be_v require_v to_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n be_v that_o god_n the_o father_n beget_v his_o son_n only_o by_o understand_v himself_o here_o master_n charke_n in_o steed_n of_o these_o dark_a word_n out_o of_o thomas_n how_o the_o father_n beget_v the_o son_n wish_v clear_a and_o perfect_a word_n in_o so_o high_a a_o mystery_n which_o you_o say_v be_v plain_a and_o usual_a to_o those_o which_o have_v study_v any_o thing_n in_o divinity_n as_o though_o there_o be_v no_o divinity_n in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o so_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n which_o have_v neither_o this_o question_n nor_o these_o word_n but_o that_o all_o divinity_n be_v include_v in_o the_o breast_n of_o thomas_n aquinas_n and_o such_o doctor_n as_o he_o be_v that_o he_o quote_v a_o place_n or_o two_o of_o the_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o christ_n be_v the_o only_o beget_v son_n of_o god_n you_o make_v small_a account_n of_o see_v the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o manner_n how_o this_o generation_n maybe_o which_o the_o church_n de_fw-fr fend_v against_o the_o adversary_n and_o here_o you_o insult_v against_o m._n chark_n as_o ignorant_a in_o those_o high_a point_n of_o divinity_n whereas_o catholik_o know_v what_o the_o church_n have_v determine_v herein_o against_o heretic_n and_o infidel_n as_o though_o either_o of_o both_o care_v for_o the_o church_n determination_n if_o the_o one_o be_v not_o vanquish_v by_o scripture_n the_o other_o by_o right_a reason_n
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v able_a to_o make_v thou_o wise_a you_o harp_n only_o upon_o the_o word_n of_o instruct_v which_o the_o vulgar_a interpreter_n use_v not_o sufficient_a to_o answer_v the_o greek_a verb_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o yet_o if_o it_o be_v right_o understand_v as_o perhaps_o he_o mean_v it_o signify_v to_o furnish_v and_o not_o to_o teach_v proper_o so_o the_o sense_n may_v be_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v able_a to_o furnish_v thou_o with_o knowledge_n to_o salvation_n and_o that_o 〈◊〉_d a_o sufficiency_n now_o to_o your_o pelt_a caville_n you_o ask_v if_o the_o scripture_n which_o can_v show_v timothy_n the_o way_n to_o salvation_n and_o bring_v he_o also_o to_o it_o if_o he_o will_v follow_v they_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o whole_a church_n so_o that_o all_o doctrine_n by_o tradition_n be_v superfluous_a i_o answer_v yea_o for_o there_o be_v but_o one_o way_n to_o salvation_n for_o all_o the_o church_n but_o you_o object_n that_o every_o epistle_n of_o saint_n paul_n enstruct_v a_o man_n to_o salvation_n yet_o it_o not_o sufficient_a for_o the_o whole_a church_n i_o answer_v that_o every_o epistle_n of_o saint_n paul_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o instruct_v a_o man_n to_o salvation_n or_o to_o make_v he_o wise_a unto_o salvation_n but_o that_o which_o saint_n paul_n spake_v be_v of_o the_o whole_a scripture_n not_o of_o every_o epistle_n for_o you_o may_v as_o well_o object_n that_o every_o chapter_n and_o verse_n instruct_v a_o man_n towards_o salvation_n rather_o than_o to_o salvation_n but_o not_o sufficient_o yet_o the_o whole_a be_v able_a to_o make_v a_o man_n wise_a unto_o salvation_n your_o second_o objection_n be_v that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v principal_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o will_v master_n charke_n say_v that_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v sufficient_a to_o christian_a man_n for_o their_o salvation_n without_o any_o other_o write_v yea_o i_o warrant_v you_o for_o there_o be_v no_o doctrine_n in_o the_o new_a but_o it_o be_v teach_v in_o the_o old_a saint_n paul_n affirm_v that_o he_o say_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o the_o prophet_n and_o moses_n have_v speak_v of_o thing_n to_o be_v perform_v the_o new_a testament_n have_v no_o other_o doctrine_n than_o the_o old_a only_o it_o testify_v the_o performance_n of_o those_o thing_n in_o christ_n which_o the_o old_a testament_n foreshow_v to_o be_v perform_v again_o because_o you_o grate_n so_o much_o upon_o the_o exclusion_n of_o other_o write_v saint_n paul_n add_v by_o faith_n in_o jesus_n christ_n which_o contain_v all_o that_o be_v write_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n concern_v the_o story_n of_o performancet_n and_o seal_n of_o this_o faith_n and_o if_o the_o old_a be_v sufficient_a how_o much_o more_o be_v the_o old_a &_o the_o new_a together_o a_o rich_a &_o abundant_a doctrine_n the_o 〈◊〉_d that_o you_o make_v against_o his_o translation_n of_o the_o whole_a scripture_n which_o you_o will_v refer_v to_o every_o scripture_n be_v answer_v before_o the_o translation_n must_v be_v according_a to_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n every_o scripture_n which_o be_v every_o several_a book_n or_o every_o several_a chapter_n or_o every_o several_a verse_n be_v not_o able_a to_o make_v the_o man_n of_o god_n perfect_a and_o perfect_o prepare_v to_o every_o good_a work_n but_o the_o whole_a be_v therefore_o the_o translation_n must_v be_v the_o whole_a scripture_n and_o not_o every_o scripture_n but_o now_o to_o your_o tow_n reason_n in_o the_o first_o you_o say_v that_o saint_n paul_n can_v not_o mean_v to_o timothy_n of_o all_o the_o scripture_n together_o which_o we_o now_o use_v for_o that_o all_o be_v not_o then_o write_v to_o this_o you_o confess_v that_o he_o answer_v there_o be_v enough_o write_v then_o for_o the_o sufficient_a salvation_n of_o man_n of_o that_o time_n and_o there_a be_v not_o superfluous_a but_o this_o you_o say_v be_v from_o the_o purpose_n yea_o be_v how_o so_o i_o pray_v you_o you_o answer_v it_o be_v sufficient_a with_o the_o supply_n by_o word_n of_o 〈◊〉_d unwritten_a but_o that_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o purpose_n for_o master_n charke_n tell_v you_o that_o from_o the_o time_n that_o any_o 〈◊〉_d be_v write_v that_o scripture_n contany_v sufficient_a 〈◊〉_d to_o salvation_n without_o any_o supply_n of_o any_o other_o doctrine_n that_o be_v not_o in_o that_o scripture_n comprehend_v although_o preach_v and_o other_o mean_n be_v necessary_a to_o reach_v man_n which_o be_v beside_o the_o purpose_n before_o the_o scripture_n be_v write_v the_o same_o doctrine_n in_o substance_n be_v deliver_v by_o revelation_n that_o afterward_o be_v write_v the_o continuance_n thereof_o be_v not_o only_o by_o bare_a tradition_n but_o also_o in_o every_o age_n renew_v by_o revelation_n again_o the_o age_n of_o man_n be_v lo_n long_o that_o there_o remain_v always_o faithful_a and_o ceratine_a witness_n of_o the_o doctrine_n alive_a so_o that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v corrúpt_v but_o it_o be_v easy_a by_o those_o witness_n to_o be_v refute_v but_o when_o the_o age_n of_o man_n be_v draw_v into_o the_o strait_n of_o 70._o year_n or_o little_o more_o as_o moses_n 10._o show_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n be_v commit_v to_o writing_n even_o as_o much_o at_o the_o first_o as_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o people_n unto_o salvation_n without_o any_o supply_n of_o tradition_n the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n write_n be_v a_o more_o full_a and_o plentiful_a declaration_n of_o thesame_a doctrine_n of_o salvation_n not_o any_o addition_n of_o any_o new_a doctrine_n or_o way_n to_o salvation_n your_o second_o reason_n be_v that_o 〈◊〉_d part_n of_o scripture_n be_v want_v now_o which_o be_v in_o saint_n paul_n time_n but_o that_o you_o be_v not_o able_a to_o prove_v for_o although_o there_o be_v mention_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n of_o diverse_a book_n write_v by_o prophet_n which_o be_v not_o now_o extant_a yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o those_o be_v extant_a in_o saint_n paul_n time_n and_o if_o any_o be_v yet_o be_v they_o but_o explication_n and_o interpretation_n of_o the_o book_n of_o moses_n which_o be_v extant_a every_o syllable_n and_o prick_v and_o shall_v be_v to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n but_o epiphanius_n affirm_v that_o all_o thing_n can_v be_v take_v from_o the_o scripture_n wherefore_o the_o aposties_n 〈◊〉_d something_n in_o writing_n and_o something_n in_o tradition_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o saint_n paul_n be_v great_a than_o epiphanius_n secondlie_o that_o epiphanius_n say_v not_o that_o any_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n can_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n for_o he_o speak_v only_o of_o this_o opinion_n that_o it_o be_v sin_n to_o marry_v after_o virginity_n decree_v which_o nevertheless_o may_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n if_o the_o vow_n be_v advisedlie_o take_v and_o no_o necessity_n of_o incontinency_n require_v marriage_n but_o of_o tradition_n we_o shall_v have_v further_a to_o consider_v in_o the_o next_o section_n the_o thirteen_o section_n entitle_v of_o teach_v tradition_n beside_o the_o scripture_n art_n 5._o gotuisus_fw-la report_v the_o jesuit_n to_o saic_a that_o the_o want_n of_o holy_a scripture_n must_v be_v supply_v by_o piece_v it_o out_o by_o tradition_n cens._n f._n 220._o here_o you_o repeat_v your_o old_a frivolous_a quarrel_n that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v no_o such_o unreverent_a word_n master_n chark_n charge_v you_o out_o of_o hosius_n with_o a_o far_o worseisay_v that_o if_o tradition_n be_v reject_v the_o very_a gospel_n itself_o seem_v to_o be_v reject_v for_o what_o else_o be_v tradition_n than_o a_o certain_a live_a gospel_n but_o thereto_o you_o answer_v not_o one_o word_n and_o the_o meaning_n of_o those_o word_n report_v by_o gotuisus_fw-la you_o maintain_v eager_o thorouhout_v this_o section_n as_o you_o do_v in_o part_n in_o the_o 12._o section_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o sufficient_a and_o that_o there_o must_v be_v tradition_n receive_v beside_o the_o scripture_n to_o what_o end_n but_o to_o supply_v the_o want_n and_o insufficiency_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n nay_o say_v you_o though_o both_o part_n of_o god_n word_n that_o be_v both_o write_v and_o unwritten_a be_v necessary_a unto_o god_n church_n yet_o both_o of_o they_o do_v stand_v in_o their_o full_a perfection_n assign_v they_o by_o god_n neither_o be_v the_o one_o a_o maim_n or_o impeachment_n to_o the_o other_o you_o mean_v they_o be_v as_o perfect_v as_o god_n make_v they_o not_o that_o the_o write_a word_n be_v sufficient_a to_o teach_v all_o truth_n unto_o the_o perfection_n of_o the_o man_n of_o god_n and_o so_o for_o all_o your_o vain_a compass_n of_o word_n the_o sense_n be_v all_o one_o the_o scripture_n be_v but_o a_o part_n or_o a_o
piece_n of_o god_n word_n and_o tradition_n be_v a_o other_o piece_n and_o this_o piece_n must_v be_v add_v to_o that_o or_o else_o it_o be_v not_o a_o perfect_a or_o sufficient_a instruction_n of_o itself_o for_o god_n church_n the_o comparison_n you_o make_v of_o join_v s._n luke_n gospel_n to_o that_o of_o saint_n matthew_n or_o saint_n paul_n epistle_n to_o they_o both_o to_o resemble_v your_o patch_v of_o tradition_n to_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n be_v both_o odious_a and_o unlike_a and_o without_o beg_v the_o whole_a matter_n in_o question_n gain_v nothing_o for_o the_o add_v of_o the_o writing_n of_o one_o evangelist_n to_o another_o or_o of_o a_o apostle_n to_o the_o evangelist_n be_v but_o the_o heap_v of_o heavenly_a treasure_n to_o the_o further_o enrich_v of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o light_n of_o spiritual_a knowledge_n so_o the_o accession_n of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v as_o it_o be_v the_o unfolding_n or_o lay_v open_a of_o the_o same_o divine_a riches_n that_o be_v perfect_o contain_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o all_o god_n elect_v that_o live_v under_o that_o discipline_n but_o your_o tradition_n as_o you_o maintain_v they_o argue_v a_o insufficiency_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o also_o you_o confess_v yourself_o and_o be_v not_o a_o more_o plain_a or_o plentiful_a application_n of_o the_o mystery_n comprehend_v in_o they_o therefore_o though_o you_o can_v for_o manner_n sake_n otherwhile_o forbear_v odious_a speech_n against_o the_o dignity_n of_o holy_a scripture_n yet_o even_o that_o odious_a conclusion_n gather_v by_o gotuisus_fw-la must_v needs_o follow_v of_o your_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o insufficiency_n of_o scripture_n and_o the_o necessity_n of_o tradition_n that_o your_o tradition_n be_v god_n word_n and_o of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o scripture_n you_o promise_v to_o show_v more_o large_o in_o the_o twelve_o article_n together_o with_o certain_a mean_n how_o to_o know_v and_o discern_v the_o same_o sed_fw-la haec_fw-la in_o dicm_fw-la minitave_n parmeno_fw-la you_o have_v take_v a_o pretty_a pause_n of_o three_o year_n long_o since_o you_o be_v interrupt_v as_o you_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o end_n by_o a_o write_v de_fw-la removendo_fw-la but_o the_o day_n will_v come_v that_o shall_v pay_v for_o all_o whether_o any_o cause_n or_o matter_n have_v be_v minister_v by_o you_o of_o odious_a speech_n against_o the_o dignity_n of_o holy_a scripture_n mastet_fw-la charke_n declare_v by_o one_o example_n out_o of_o hosius_n which_o with_o all_o the_o rest_n that_o he_o say_v you_o omit_v to_o answer_v as_o trifle_a speech_n to_o little_a purpose_n so_o whatsoever_o by_o any_o colour_n of_o reason_n you_o can_v not_o avoid_v by_o your_o censorious_a authority_n you_o may_v contemn_v and_o pass_v over_o but_o his_o conclusion_n seem_v worthy_a the_o answer_n which_o he_o make_v in_o these_o word_n to_o conclude_v it_o be_v a_o great_a iniquity_n to_o add_v tradition_n or_o your_o unwritten_a verity_n to_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n whereunto_o no_o man_n may_v add_v 22._o because_o nothing_o be_v want_v from_o which_o no_o man_n may_v take_v because_o nothing_o be_v superfluous_a but_o to_o he_o that_o add_v shall_v the_o curse_n write_v in_o the_o book_n be_v add_v for_o ever_o against_o this_o conclusion_n you_o note_v in_o the_o margin_n great_a iniquity_n to_o add_v one_o verity_n to_o another_o or_o to_o believe_v two_o verity_n together_o a_o fine_a jest_n but_o a_o gross_a beg_n of_o the_o whole_a cause_n for_o who_o shall_v grant_v that_o your_o unwritten_a verety_n be_v truth_n and_o not_o falsehood_n false_o by_o you_o term_v verity_n unwritten_a there_o be_v no_o verity_n of_o matter_n necessary_a to_o be_v know_v unto_o salvation_n which_o be_v not_o write_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o be_v able_a to_o make_v we_o wise_a unto_o salvation_n 3._o but_o good_a lord_n what_o a_o stir_n you_o keep_v because_o m._n chatk_n note_v in_o the_o margin_n apoc._n 22._o &_o ask_v how_o this_o place_n be_v allege_v against_o you_o etc._n etc._n as_o though_o that_o which_o be_v true_a of_o one_o book_n yea_o of_o every_o book_n of_o the_o scripture_n may_v not_o justly_o be_v verify_v of_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o book_n of_o the_o the_o bible_n because_o add_v to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n argue_v imperfection_n in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n your_o stale_a objection_n of_o saint_n johns_n gospel_n write_v after_o the_o revelation_n be_v already_o answer_v for_o all_o book_n of_o scripture_n that_o have_v be_v write_v since_o the_o five_o book_n of_o moses_n be_v no_o addition_n to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o a_o more_o clear_a explication_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d first_o come_v mit_v to_o write_v by_o inspiration_n of_o god_n neither_o do_v they_o teach_v a_o other_o way_n of_o salvation_n than_o moses_n do_v but_o set_v forth_o the_o same_o more_o plain_o by_o demonstration_n by_o example_n of_o god_n justice_n and_o his_o mercy_n by_o threaten_n by_o exhortation_n by_o explication_n of_o his_o promise_n by_o show_v the_o accomplishment_n and_o the_o manner_n of_o performance_n of_o they_o in_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n and_o this_o they_o do_v most_o absolute_o sufficient_o and_o plentiful_o to_o the_o salvation_n of_o god_n people_n these_o thing_n say_v s._n john_n be_v write_v that_o you_o shall_v 31._o believe_v that_o jesus_n be_v christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o that_o believe_v you_o may_v have_v everlasting_a life_n in_o his_o name_n here_o you_o may_v as_o well_o cavil_v that_o not_o only_o the_o gospel_n of_o saint_n john_n or_o the_o miracle_n write_v in_o the_o same_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v unto_o salvation_n but_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o scripture_n also_o foolish_o oppose_v thing_n that_o be_v no_o way_n repugnant_a but_o the_o one_o include_v the_o other_o for_o the_o believe_v of_o saint_n johns_n gospel_n do_v not_o exclude_v but_o include_v all_o other_o book_n and_o part_n of_o holy_a scripture_n which_o teach_v the_o same_o mean_a of_o salvation_n or_o any_o thing_n thereto_o pertain_v but_o how_o hold_v this_o argument_n say_v you_o no_o man_n may_v add_v to_o the_o book_n of_o apocalypse_n ergo_fw-la no_o man_n may_v believe_v a_o tradition_n of_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n may_v we_o not_o as_o well_o say_v ergo_fw-la we_o may_v not_o believe_v the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n no_o sir_n for_o we_o make_v our_o argument_n in_o this_o man_n never_o no_o man_n may_v add_v to_o the_o book_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n much_o less_o may_v any_o man_n add_v to_o the_o whole_a bible_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n and_o consequent_o there_o be_v no_o tradition_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n to_o be_v credit_v as_o needful_a to_o salvation_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n thus_o we_o allege_v scripture_n and_o thus_o we_o argue_v upon_o they_o not_o as_o it_o please_v you_o to_o deseant_fw-la upon_o our_o allegation_n and_o to_o dissigure_v our_o argument_n but_o it_o be_v lamentable_a you_o say_v to_o see_v the_o 〈◊〉_d deal_n of_o these_o man_n in_o matter_n of_o such_o importance_n it_o be_v very_o true_a understand_v you_o and_o your_o complice_n to_o be_v the_o man_n that_o use_v such_o flight_n in_o 〈◊〉_d weighty_a cause_n as_o for_o our_o doctrine_n be_v plain_a &_o without_o any_o seam_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a to_o salvation_n &_o therefore_o all_o tradition_n beside_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o that_o purpose_n but_o let_v we_o see_v who_o 〈◊〉_d sleight_n by_o your_o judgement_n first_o you_o ask_v master_n charke_n what_o he_o 〈◊〉_d by_o add_v who_o do_v add_v or_o in_o what_o sense_n as_o though_o his_o meaning_n and_o sense_n of_o add_v be_v not_o manifest_a as_o also_o his_o accusation_n that_o the_o i_o suit_n the_o papist_n do_v add_v to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n their_o tradition_n a_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n yet_o not_o express_v or_o contain_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o if_o god_n say_v you_o leave_v any_o doctrine_n by_o tradition_n unto_o the_o church_n and_o our_o ancetour_n have_v deliver_v the_o same_o vuto_fw-mi we_o especial_o those_o of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d church_n what_o shall_v we_o do_v in_o this_o case_n shall_v we_o refuse_v it_o it_o seem_v dangerous_a and_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o we_o shall_v refuse_v any_o thing_n that_o god_n have_v leave_v but_o whether_o god_n have_v leave_v any_o such_o tradition_n to_o be_v believe_v unto_o salua_fw-la tion_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o if_o our_o ancetour_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v deliver_v any_o such_o tradition_n unwritten_a as_o leave_v by_o christ_n what_o shall_v we_o do_v you_o
see_v no_o reason_n to_o refuse_v it_o but_o if_o you_o will_v learn_v reason_n when_o it_o be_v show_v you_o may_v see_v more_o than_o you_o do_v now_o be_v your_o ancestor_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n great_a than_o saint_n paul_n be_v there_o any_o testimonié_fw-fr of_o man_n great_a than_o the_o witness_n of_o a_o angel_n from_o heaven_n yet_o if_o saint_n paul_n himself_o or_o a_o angel_n from_o heaven_n shall_v preach_v a_o other_o gospel_n than_o saint_n paul_n have_v preach_v and_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o holi_fw-la scripture_n that_o false_a gospel_n be_v to_o be_v resuse_v and_o the_o author_n thereof_o to_o be_v accurse_v now_o that_o saint_n 8._o paul_n preach_v nothing_o beside_o the_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n he_o be_v a_o sufficient_a witness_n himself_o act._n 26._o 22._o but_o why_o see_v you_o no_o reason_n to_o refuse_v such_o tradition_n so_o obtrude_v forsooth_o because_o the_o same_o man_n that_o deliver_v unto_o you_o the_o scripture_n and_o say_v this_o be_v god_n write_v word_n and_o say_v of_o other_o forge_a scripture_n this_o be_v not_o god_n write_v word_n the_o same_o deliver_v to_o you_o these_o doctrine_n say_v this_o be_v god_n word_n unwritten_a so_o that_o by_o this_o reason_n you_o have_v no_o other_o foundation_n of_o your_o faith_n but_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n who_o as_o they_o may_v speak_v the_o truth_n in_o one_o matter_n so_o they_o may_v lie_v or_o be_v deceive_v in_o a_o other_o as_o even_o by_o your_o own_o reason_n the_o grecian_n the_o armenian_n the_o georgian_n the_o moscovite_n and_o all_o other_o sectary_n be_v bind_v to_o believe_v all_o that_o to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n unwritten_a which_o the_o same_o man_n affirm_v to_o be_v such_o that_o deliver_v the_o canonical_a scripture_n to_o they_o and_o say_v it_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n write_v but_o in_o stead_n of_o this_o unsure_a and_o sandy_a ground_n the_o child_n of_o god_n have_v a_o more_o firm_a rock_n to_o build_v their_o faith_n upon_o namely_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n seal_v in_o their_o heart_n the_o testimony_n of_o man_n concern_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n word_n write_v in_o which_o the_o same_o spirit_n also_o testify_v of_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o word_n write_v unto_o salvation_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o if_o we_o receive_v the_o word_n write_v for_o truth_n we_o must_v needs_o condemn_v for_o false_a what_o word_n soever_o speak_v either_o the_o contrary_a or_o add_v any_o thing_n as_o want_v and_o not_o set_v forth_o in_o the_o word_n write_v and_o this_o i_o say_v not_o as_o though_o the_o primitive_a church_n or_o the_o godly_a father_n of_o the_o same_o have_v bring_v in_o any_o thing_n under_o the_o name_n of_o tradition_n of_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n although_o some_o of_o they_o in_o matter_n of_o rite_n &_o ceremony_n have_v allege_v tradition_n beside_o the_o scripture_n yet_o in_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v now_o for_o the_o most_o part_n abolish_v either_o because_o they_o be_v not_o deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n as_o it_o be_v pretend_v or_o else_o because_o such_o matter_n be_v mutable_a and_o not_o perpetual_a though_o they_o be_v receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n but_o let_v we_o examine_v the_o example_n that_o you_o join_v to_o your_o reason_n first_o saint_n augustine_n and_o origen_n do_v teach_v we_o that_o baptise_v of_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v practise_v in_o the_o church_n only_o by_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o which_o you_o quote_v august_n lib._n 10._o ad_fw-la gen_fw-la lit_fw-fr cap._n 23._o origen_n in_o cap._n 6._o epist._n ad_fw-la rom._n what_o saint_n augustine_n say_v and_o how_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v practise_v by_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n i_o have_v show_v before_o sect_n 11._o as_o for_o origen_n in_o the_o place_n quote_v have_v never_o a_o word_n to_o any_o such_o matter_n but_o of_o these_o impudent_a allegation_n we_o have_v have_v too_o many_o example_n already_o the_o second_o example_n be_v saint_n hierome_n and_o epiphanius_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o fast_a of_o the_o lend_v and_o oher_z the_o like_a be_v a_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n hierom._n epist._n 54._o ad_fw-la marcelia_n epiphann_n haer._n 7._o 5._o hieromes_n word_n be_v these_o against_o the_o montaniste_n nos_fw-la unam_fw-la quadragesimam_fw-la secundùm_fw-la traditionem_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la toto_fw-la anno_fw-la tempore_fw-la nobis_fw-la congruo_fw-la ieiunamus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tres_fw-la in_o anno_fw-la faciunt_fw-la quadragesimas_fw-la quasi_fw-la tres_fw-la passi_fw-la sunt_fw-la saluatores_fw-la non_fw-la quòd_fw-la &_o per_fw-la totum_fw-la annum_fw-la excepta_fw-la pentecoste_n ieiunare_fw-la non_fw-la liceat_fw-la sed_fw-la quòd_fw-la aliud_fw-la sit_fw-la necessitate_v aliud_fw-la voluntate_fw-la munus_fw-la offer_n we_o fast_o one_o lend_v or_o forty_o day_n according_a to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o whole_a year_n in_o a_o time_n convenient_a for_o we_o they_o make_v three_o lentes_fw-la or_o forty_o day_n fast_o in_o a_o year_n as_o though_o three_o saviour_n have_v susser_v not_o but_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a all_o the_o year_n long_o except_o in_o the_o pentecostor_n fifty_o day_n but_o that_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o offer_v a_o gift_n of_o necessity_n a_o other_o thing_n to_o do_v it_o of_o free_a will_n here_o hierome_n say_v that_o one_o forty_o day_n fast_o be_v of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o other_o writer_n say_v otherwise_o for_o damasus_n in_o his_o pontifical_a say_v that_o telesphorus_n bishope_n of_o room_n do_v institute_v this_o seven_o week_n fast_a before_o easter_n telesphorus_n himself_o in_o his_o decretal_a epistle_n say_v that_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n bishop_n gather_v in_o a_o council_n at_o room_n do_v ordain_v this_o forty_o day_n fast_a only_o for_o clerk_n and_o contend_v in_o many_o word_n that_o there_o must_v be_v a_o difference_n between_o clerk_n and_o lay_v man_n as_o well_o in_o fast_a as_o in_o other_o thing_n if_o you_o say_v these_o authority_n be_v counterfeit_a 〈◊〉_d as_o i_o thin_a 〈◊〉_d you_o may_v true_o though_o 26._o you_o will_v not_o willing_o yet_o what_o say_v you_o to_o 〈◊〉_d a_o elder_a witness_n than_o hierome_n who_o testify_v out_o of_o year_n that_o two_o hundred_o 〈◊〉_d before_o his_o time_n there_o be_v great_a controversy_n between_o the_o next_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n concern_v the_o day_n of_o the_o celebration_n of_o easter_n and_o that_o the_o coutroversie_n be_v not_o only_o of_o the_o day_n but_o also_o of_o the_o fast_o some_o fast_v one_o day_n some_o two_o date_n some_o more_o so_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n tradition_n we_o have_v no_o certainty_n in_o any_o monument_n of_o antiquity_n again_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o hierome_n hold_v it_o unlawful_a to_o fast_a between_o easter_n and_o whitesontyde_n which_o he_o call_v peatecoste_n by_o the_o same_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o yet_o in_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v not_o observe_v at_o this_o day_n for_o beside_o the_o fridaie_n fast_o they_o have_v also_o the_o gang_n week_n fast_o in_o that_o time_n which_o in_o saint_n hieromes_n age_n be_v account_v unlawful_a to_o fast_v in_o your_o other_o witness_n epiphanius_n speak_v not_o of_o your_o forty_o day_n lend_v but_o of_o a_o short_a and_o yet_o a_o straight_a for_o these_o be_v his_o word_n aquo_fw-la verò_fw-la non_fw-la assensum_fw-la est_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la orbis_fw-la terrarum_fw-la regionibus_fw-la quòd_fw-la quarta_fw-la &_o prosabbato_fw-la ieiunium_fw-la est_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la ordinatum_fw-la siverò_fw-la etiam_fw-la oportet_fw-la constitutionem_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la proffer_v quomodo_fw-la illic_fw-la decreverunt_fw-la quarta_fw-la &_o prosabbato_fw-la ieiunium_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la excepta_fw-la pentecoste_n &_o the_o sex_n dieb_v paschatis_fw-la quomodo_fw-la praecipiunt_fw-la nihil_fw-la omnino_fw-la accipere_fw-la quàm_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o salem_fw-la &_o aquam_fw-la qualemque_fw-la diem_fw-la agere_fw-la &_o quomodo_fw-la dimittere_fw-la in_o illucescentem_fw-la dominicam_fw-la manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la and_o of_o who_o be_v it_o not_o agree_v in_o all_o region_n of_o the_o world_n that_o one_o wednesdaie_n and_o fridaie_n fast_o be_v ordain_v in_o the_o church_n but_o if_o we_o must_v also_o bring_v forth_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o apostle_n how_o they_o have_v there_o decree_v one_o the_o wednesdaie_n and_o fridaie_n a_o fast_n throughout_o all_o except_o penteco_v and_o of_o the_o six_o day_n of_o easter_n how_o they_o command_v to_o take_v nothing_o at_o all_o but_o bread_n and_o salt_n and_o water_n and_o how_o to_o spend_v the_o day_n and_o how_o to_o give_v over_o against_o the_o dawn_n of_o the_o lord_n day_n it_o be_v manifest_a here_o he_o speak_v but_o ofsixe_a day_n before_o easter_n day_n and_o of_o a_o other_o manner_n of_o diet_n than_o the_o popish_a church_n hold_v to_o be_v necessary_a
necessary_a to_o salvation_n not_o express_v in_o so_o many_o word_n and_o syllable_n yet_o in_o full_a sense_n contain_v and_o to_o be_v plain_o conclude_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o these_o we_o receive_v to_o be_v of_o as_o great_a credit_n as_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v expresselie_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n the_o other_o kind_n of_o tradition_n be_v rite_n and_o ceremony_n which_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o be_v in_o the_o church_n power_n to_o alter_v as_o it_o may_v stand_v best_a with_o edification_n among_o which_o s._n basill_n rehearse_v some_o that_o long_o since_o be_v abolish_v as_o the_o rite_n of_o stand_v in_o prayer_n one_o the_o lord_n day_n and_o between_o easter_n and_o whitsontid_v which_o of_o itself_o be_v a_o thing_n indifferent_a as_o also_o that_o manner_n of_o glorify_v in_o which_o they_o say_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n whereas_o all_o the_o church_n long_o since_o have_v say_v neither_o in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n nor_o with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o believe_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v glorify_v equal_o with_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n it_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o in_o what_o form_n of_o word_n that_o shall_v be_v sing_v in_o the_o church_n it_o be_v indifferent_a and_o the_o late_a church_n have_v use_v her_o liberty_n herein_o to_o alter_v that_o form_n which_o saint_n basill_n say_v be_v deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o without_o write_v by_o this_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v manifest_a what_o kind_n of_o tradition_n be_v of_o equal_a force_n or_o authority_n with_o the_o scripture_n even_o they_o which_o have_v their_o ground_n in_o the_o scripture_n and_o none_o other_o for_o as_o the_o same_o basill_n affirm_v every_o 80._o word_n or_o deed_n ought_v to_o be_v confirm_v by_o testimony_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n again_o for_o if_o all_o that_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v and_o faith_n be_v of_o hear_v and_o hear_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n whatsoever_o be_v beside_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n thus_o basill_n whatsoever_o he_o speak_v of_o unwritten_a tradition_n he_o mean_v not_o against_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n except_o you_o will_v say_v he_o be_v contrary_a to_o himself_o in_o many_o place_n beside_o these_o that_o i_o have_v note_v tr._n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la &_o piafide_fw-la epist._n 80._o in_o reg._n breu._n inter._n 1._o &_o 65._o 68_o de_fw-la ornatu_fw-la monachi_fw-la your_o next_o testimony_n be_v out_o of_o eusebius_n lib._n 1._o eu._n demonst._n cap._n 8._o whole_a word_n you_o mangle_v after_o your_o manner_n leave_v out_o at_o your_o pleasure_n more_o than_o you_o rehearse_v eusebius_n have_v show_v the_o excellency_n of_o christ_n above_o moses_n declare_v also_o that_o there_o be_v two_o manner_n oflive_v in_o christianity_n the_o one_o of_o they_o that_o be_v strong_a and_o perfect_a the_o other_o of_o they_o that_o be_v subject_a to_o many_o infirmites_n and_o that_o whereas_o moses_n do_v write_v in_o table_n without_o life_n christ_n have_v write_v the_o perfect_a precept_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o live_a mind_n &_o his_o disciple_n follow_v their_o master_n mind_n consider_v what_o doctrine_n be_v meet_v for_o both_o sort_n have_v commit_v the_o one_o to_o writing_n as_o that_o which_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v keep_v of_o all_o the_o other_o they_o deliver_v without_o writing_n to_o those_o that_o be_v able_a to_o receive_v it_o which_o have_v excel_v the_o common_a manner_n of_o man_n in_o knowledge_n in_o strength_n in_o abstinence_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o eusebius_n in_o that_o place_n not_o of_o any_o tradition_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n of_o every_o man_n which_o be_v not_o teach_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o of_o certain_a precept_n tend_v to_o perfection_n not_o enjoin_v to_o all_o but_o write_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o some_o the_o three_o man_n be_v epiphanius_n who_o you_o say_v be_v more_o earnest_a than_o eusebius_n write_v against_o certain_a heretic_n call_v apostolici_fw-la which_o deny_v tradition_n as_o our_o protestant_n do_v which_o be_v but_o a_o tale_n for_o they_o be_v more_o like_a to_o popish_a monk_n and_o friar_n than_o protestant_n for_o they_o profess_v to_o abstain_v from_o marriage_n &_o to_o poslesse_a nothing_o and_o such_o other_o superstition_n they_o observe_v but_o what_o say_v epiphanius_n for_o tradition_n he_o say_v that_o we_o must_v use_v tradition_n for_o all_o thing_n can_v not_o be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n wherefore_o the_o holy_a apostle_n deliver_v something_n in_o the_o scripture_n and_o something_o in_o tradition_n my_o answer_n to_o epiphanius_n be_v the_o same_o that_o it_o be_v to_o basilius_n namely_o that_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v not_o express_v in_o plain_a word_n in_o the_o scripture_n be_v approve_v by_o tradition_n be_v nevertheless_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v to_o be_v conclude_v necessary_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n as_o in_o the_o question_n for_o which_o he_o allege_v tradition_n it_o be_v manifest_a tradiderunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o holy_a apostle_n of_o god_n say_v he_o have_v deliver_v unto_o we_o that_o it_o be_v sin_n after_o virginity_n decree_v to_o be_v turn_v unto_o marriage_n this_o the_o papist_n doubt_v not_o but_o that_o they_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n except_o where_o the_o pope_n dispense_v and_o we_o acknowledge_v that_o where_o the_o vow_n be_v make_v a_o duised_o to_o a_o godly_a purpose_n and_o ability_n in_o the_o party_n to_o perform_v it_o that_o it_o be_v sin_n to_o break_v it_o neither_o can_v the_o pope_n dispense_v with_o it_o in_o the_o other_o place_n where_o he_o rehearse_v many_o example_n of_o tradition_n he_o speak_v 75._o of_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n as_o be_v before_o declare_v whereof_o many_o be_v not_o observe_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o of_o they_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o epiphanius_n you_o say_v proove_v it_o out_o of_o scripture_n 1._o cor._n 11._o 14._o 15._o uhere_o saint_n paulsaith_n as_o i_o deliver_v unto_o you_o and_o again_o so_o i_o teach_v and_o so_o i_o have_v deliver_v unto_o the_o church_n and_o if_o you_o hold_v fast_o except_o you_o have_v believe_v in_o vain_a to_o the_o first_o i_o answer_v that_o it_o proove_v no_o tradition_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n as_o be_v more_o manifest_a by_o the_o second_o and_o three_o text_n for_o where_o saint_n paul_n say_v so_o i_o teach_v in_o all_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 1._o cor._n 14._o 33._o he_o say_v immediate_o before_o that_o god_n be_v not_o the_o god_n of_o sedition_n but_o of_o peace_n &_o 1_o cor._n 15._o 1._o 2._o 3._o the_o apostle_n speak_v manifest_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o resurrection_n whereof_o he_o himself_o in_o that_o place_n write_v plentifullie_o and_o in_o many_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n the_o same_o article_n be_v teach_v most_o expresselie_o you_o see_v therefore_o how_o substantial_o epiphanius_n proove_v tradition_n unwritten_a out_o of_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n which_o be_v our_o question_n but_o with_o epiphanius_n say_v you_o join_v full_o and_o earnest_o 2._o saint_n chrysostome_n write_v upon_o these_o word_n of_o saint_n paul_n to_o the_o purpose_n stand_v fast_o and_o hold_v tradition_n out_o of_o which_o clear_a word_n saint_n chrysostome_n make_v this_o illation_n hinc_fw-la patet_fw-la etc._n etc._n hereof_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o apostle_n deliver_v not_o all_o by_o epistle_n but_o many_o thing_n also_o without_o writing_n and_o those_o be_v as_o worthy_a credit_n as_o these_o therefore_o we_o think_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v worthy_a of_o credit_n it_o be_v a_o tradition_n seek_v no_o more_o the_o sense_n of_o these_o word_n be_v that_o the_o apostle_n in_o their_o preach_n do_v express_v many_o thing_n more_o particular_o then_o in_o their_o epistle_n not_o that_o they_o preach_v any_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o that_o the_o same_o be_v contain_v either_o in_o their_o epistle_n or_o in_o other_o book_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o so_o i_o say_v of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n though_o not_o express_v in_o the_o same_o or_o in_o so_o many_o word_n as_o the_o three_o person_n and_o one_o god_n in_o trinity_n and_o trinity_n in_o unity_n to_o be_v worship_v etc._n etc._n be_v of_o equal_a credit_n with_o that_o which_o be_v express_v in_o the_o scripture_n because_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n stand_v not_o upon_o the_o sound_n of_o word_n but_o upon_o
of_o colene_n in_o a_o most_o apt_a similitude_n call_v the_o scripture_n a_o nose_n of_o wax_n and_o pighius_fw-la the_o leaden_a rule_n of_o the_o lesbian_a building_n but_o now_o concern_v the_o matter_n itself_o you_o will_v shift_v it_o of_o by_o say_v the_o jesuite_n do_v compare_v the_o heretical_a wrest_n and_o detort_v of_o scripture_n unso_o 104._o the_o bow_n of_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n upon_o certain_a circumstance_n which_o be_v these_o first_o not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o scripture_n itself_o but_o in_o respect_n of_o heretic_n and_o other_o that_o abuse_v it_o and_o that_o before_o the_o rude_a people_n that_o can_v judge_v thirdlie_o to_o the_o end_n to_o flatter_v prince_n or_o the_o people_n in_o their_o vice_n thus_o much_o be_v say_v before_o in_o the_o censure_n but_o it_o be_v reply_v that_o andradius_fw-la confess_v the_o father_n of_o colene_n do_v say_v that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v as_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n so_o do_v pighius_fw-la and_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n more_o common_o know_v then_o that_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v therefore_o the_o wrest_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o compare_v by_o they_o to_o the_o bow_n of_o a_o waxen_a nose_n but_o the_o scripture_n itself_o to_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n as_o that_o which_o be_v as_o easy_a to_o be_v draw_v into_o any_o sense_n as_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n may_v be_v turn_v every_o way_n the_o word_n of_o pighius_fw-la be_v plain_a sunt_fw-la enim_fw-la scripturae_fw-la velut_fw-la caereus_fw-la quidam_fw-la nasus_fw-la qui_fw-la sicut_fw-la 3._o hor_o sum_n illor_n sumque_fw-la facilè_fw-la se_fw-la trahi_fw-la permittit_fw-la &_o quo_fw-la traxeris_fw-la haud_fw-la invitus_fw-la sequitur_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o illae_fw-la se_fw-la flecti_fw-la duci_fw-la atque_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o diver_n same_o sententiam_fw-la trahi_fw-la accomodarique_fw-la ad_fw-la quiduis_a patiuntur_fw-la nist_n quis_fw-la veram_fw-la illam_fw-la inflexibilemque_fw-la earundem_fw-la amussim_fw-la nempe_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la traditionis_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la communemque_fw-la sententiam_fw-la ilsdem_fw-la adhibeat_fw-la for_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a nose_n of_o wax_n which_o as_o it_o easy_o suffer_v itself_o to_o be_v draw_v this_o way_n and_o that_o way_n and_o whether_o soever_o you_o draw_v it_o be_v follow_v not_o unwillinglie_o so_o also_o they_o do_v suffer_v themselves_o to_o be_v bow_v to_o be_v lead_v and_o also_o to_o be_v draw_v into_o a_o contrary_a meaning_n and_o to_o be_v apply_v unto_o what_o you_o will_v except_o a_o man_n lie_v unto_o they_o that_o true_a &_o inflexible_a rule_n of_o they_o namely_o the_o authority_n and_o common_a understanding_n of_o the_o church_n tradition_n these_o word_n declare_v if_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o papist_n be_v the_o same_o that_o the_o jesuite_n do_v not_o only_o compare_v the_o scripture_n itself_o but_o also_o that_o they_o make_v this_o comparison_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o scripture_n itself_o which_o suffer_v itself_o as_o easy_o to_o be_v wrest_v and_o abuse_v as_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n abide_v to_o be_v bow_v nor_o before_o the_o rude_a and_o ignorant_a only_a nor_o to_o flatter_v prince_n and_o people_n in_o their_o vice_n alone_o but_o before_o any_o person_n or_o to_o any_o purpose_n whatsoever_o and_o that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o they_o a_o certain_a and_o infallible_a sense_n to_o judge_v of_o the_o church_n doctrine_n or_o to_o find_v out_o the_o true_a church_n from_o all_o false_a congregation_n by_o the_o truth_n teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n but_o that_o the_o authority_n and_o common_a understanding_n of_o the_o popish_a church_n tradition_n be_v the_o only_a true_a sense_n &_o inflexible_a rule_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n whereby_o also_o it_o be_v manifest_a though_o you_o deny_v it_o never_o so_o stout_o that_o you_o do_v impute_v the_o wrest_n of_o the_o scripture_n unto_o the_o imperfection_n of_o god_n word_n set_v forth_o in_o they_o and_o not_o only_o to_o the_o malice_n of_o the_o wrester_n for_o if_o the_o will_n of_o god_n be_v but_o as_o well_o express_v in_o they_o as_o the_o will_n of_o prince_n be_v in_o their_o write_a law_n and_o proclamation_n the_o one_o may_v as_o well_o be_v find_v out_o by_o read_v and_o weigh_v of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o the_o other_o may_v be_v out_o of_o profane_a writing_n especial_o where_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n grant_v unto_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o elect_a open_v their_o understanding_n not_o only_o to_o conceive_v as_o the_o natural_a man_n may_v by_o study_n and_o ordinary_a help_n the_o true_a scope_n and_o purpose_n of_o god_n utter_v in_o they_o but_o also_o to_o believe_v and_o embrace_v whatsoever_o the_o lord_n their_o god_n have_v propound_v in_o they_o therefore_o though_o the_o scripture_n may_v be_v wrest_v to_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o ungodlie_a as_o saint_n peter_n show_v yet_o master_n charke_n tell_v you_o that_o it_o can_v so_o be_v wrest_v but_o that_o still_o it_o remain_v the_o light_n unto_o our_o foot_n and_o the_o lantern_n unto_o our_o step_n and_o every_o part_n thereof_o be_v like_o the_o arm_n of_o a_o great_a oak_n which_o can_v be_v so_o wreste_v but_o that_o with_o great_a force_n it_o will_v return_v into_o the_o right_a position_n to_o the_o shame_n and_o peril_n of_o the_o wrester_n which_o answer_n of_o he_o you_o do_v so_o dissemble_v as_o though_o you_o have_v never_o see_v it_o and_o you_o do_v wise_o see_v otherwise_o then_o by_o silence_n you_o can_v not_o avoid_v it_o but_o howsoever_o master_n charke_n storm_n you_o will_v defend_v your_o blasphemy_n of_o the_o nose_n of_o wax_n not_o only_o in_o a_o kingdom_n where_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v but_o also_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o we_o minister_n where_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v worse_o wrest_v by_o we_o to_o all_o error_n and_o licentiousness_n than_o every_o waxen_a nose_n be_v yet_o bend_v to_o diverse_a fashion_n o_o you_o senseless_a papist_n have_v you_o never_o a_o man_n of_o moderate_a judgement_n to_o set_v forth_o against_o we_o but_o this_o loosetongued_a gentleman_n which_o so_o he_o may_v rail_v with_o full_a mouth_n against_o we_o have_v no_o care_n how_o his_o slander_n may_v be_v colour_v do_v we_o pervert_v the_o scripture_n to_o all_o error_n then_o sure_o we_o hold_v no_o truth_n there_o never_o be_v any_o heresy_n neither_o can_v there_o be_v any_o heresy_n but_o that_o with_o many_o error_n it_o maintain_v and_o hold_v many_o truth_n yea_o the_o devil_n himself_o the_o father_n ofly_n believe_v some_o truth_n and_o for_o shame_n dare_v not_o profess_v the_o maintenance_n of_o all_o error_n we_o think_v very_o hardly_o of_o antichrist_n and_o his_o brood_n the_o papist_n yet_o we_o may_v not_o say_v that_o they_o wrest_v the_o scripture_n to_o all_o error_n and_o licentiousness_n for_o if_o they_o so_o do_v they_o shall_v not_o deceive_v so_o many_o by_o show_n of_o truth_n in_o error_n except_o they_o do_v profess_v some_o article_n of_o truth_n in_o deed_n as_o for_o the_o wrest_n of_o the_o scripture_n to_o all_o licentiousness_n let_v god_n and_o all_o the_o world_n of_o reasonable_a and_o indifferent_a man_n judge_v how_o justly_o we_o may_v be_v charge_v therewith_o if_o we_o be_v licentious_a in_o our_o life_n god_n will_v find_v it_o out_o and_o let_v man_n where_o he_o find_v it_o punish_v us._n but_o if_o we_o wilful_o pervert_v the_o scripture_n to_o the_o maintenance_n of_o all_o licentiousness_n the_o lord_n reward_v we_o according_a to_o our_o deed_n and_o be_v not_o merciful_a to_o they_o that_o sin_n of_o malicious_a wickedness_n but_o it_o be_v no_o fault_n in_o the_o scripture_n say_v you_o that_o they_o may_v be_v abuse_v for_o christ_n himself_o be_v call_v the_o rock_n of_o offence_n and_o the_o stone_n of_o scandal_n not_o for_o any_o fault_n or_o imperfection_n in_o he_o but_o through_o the_o wickedness_n of_o such_o as_o abuse_v that_o benefit_n so_o if_o the_o jesuite_n have_v say_v no_o more_o but_o that_o the_o scripture_n may_v be_v abuse_v no_o man_n can_v have_v find_v fault_n with_o they_o and_o christ_n be_v call_v a_o stone_n of_o offence_n or_o stumble_a not_o altogether_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o wicked_a that_o abuse_v he_o for_o he_o be_v call_v a_o stone_n most_o precious_a and_o necessary_a to_o build_v upon_o of_o stumble_v to_o those_o that_o refuse_v to_o build_v upon_o he_o which_o meet_v with_o he_o must_v either_o stumble_v and_o fall_v or_o else_o if_o it_o fall_v upon_o they_o they_o must_v be_v ground_n to_o powder_v but_o the_o the_o scripture_n be_v compare_v to_o a_o nose_n os_fw-la wax_n because_o it_o be_v in_o their_o imagination_n that_o use_v the_o comparison_n as_o pliant_a to_o follow_v every_o way_n and_o to_o yield_v as_o probable_a a_o sense_n one_o way_n as_o a_o other_o as_o
time_n itself_o do_v move_v they_o fulke_v these_o argument_n i_o like_v well_o for_o they_o bewray_v your_o infirmity_n most_o of_o al._n and_o now_o for_o answer_v i_o say_v that_o your_o mayor_n be_v false_a as_o weil_z as_o your_o minor_n for_o the_o common_a popish_a sense_n of_o pardon_n be_v as_o the_o word_n of_o they_o pretend_v that_o be_v to_o give_v pardon_v not_o only_o of_o penance_n enjoin_v but_o also_o of_o sin_n again_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n as_o your_o mayor_n shall_v have_v be_v frame_v but_o that_o you_o dare_v not_o come_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o a_o lawful_a syllogism_n have_v no_o power_n either_o to_o enjoin_v penance_n for_o sin_n remit_v or_o to_o remit_v penance_n enjoin_v for_o sin_n remit_v but_o of_o time_n of_o penance_n enjoin_v for_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o church_n as_o we_o hear_v late_o out_o of_o saint_n augustine_n when_o the_o church_n may_v be_v satisfy_v in_o short_a time_n your_o minor_a which_o you_o know_v will_v not_o be_v admit_v you_o take_v upon_o you_o to_o prove_v but_o you_o come_v nothing_o near_o the_o matter_n for_o this_o be_v the_o point_n of_o your_o minor_n which_o we_o deny_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o principal_a governor_n of_o god_n church_n yea_o that_o he_o be_v any_o governor_n of_o god_n church_n but_o if_o he_o be_v a_o bishop_n of_o rome_n as_o many_o be_v who_o successor_n he_o claim_v to_o be_v he_o may_v be_v allow_v in_o his_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o bind_v and_o loose_v enjoin_v and_o remit_v so_o far_o as_o christian_a discipline_n will_v bear_v but_o not_o to_o claim_v tiranie_n over_o all_o church_n as_o he_o do_v now_o you_o in_o your_o misshape_a syllogism_n in_o which_o you_o fumble_v diverse_a matter_n together_o to_o deceive_v the_o ignorant_a prove_v that_o the_o church_n and_o governor_n thereof_o have_v power_n to_o release_v that_o which_o they_o have_v power_n to_o enjoin_v which_o be_v not_o the_o matter_n in_o controversy_n but_o whether_o they_o have_v power_n to_o enjoin_v penance_n for_o sin_n remit_v to_o answer_v god_n justice_n or_o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v a_o lawful_a governor_n of_o the_o church_n these_o and_o such_o like_v be_v matter_n of_o controversy_n which_o you_o be_v never_o able_a to_o conclude_v in_o any_o lawful_a and_o true_a syllogism_n allen_n and_o this_o argument_n shall_v be_v unmooveable_a except_o they_o reject_v with_o the_o pope_n pardon_n all_o manner_n of_o discipline_n as_o well_o of_o excommunication_n as_o other_o lesser_a satisfaction_n whereof_o we_o have_v already_o speak_v as_o in_o deed_n to_o maintain_v their_o falsehood_n they_o must_v needs_o do_v as_o also_o they_o shall_v be_v enforce_v to_o reproove_v both_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a all_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o the_o general_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o with_o they_o the_o express_a scripture_n in_o which_o the_o worthy_a fruit_n of_o penance_n sharp_a discipline_n 1._o judge_v ourselves_o obedience_n to_o our_o prelate_n bind_v &_o retain_v of_o sin_n excommunicate_v and_o deliver_v up_o to_o satan_n be_v so_o often_o condemn_v it_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o miserabe_n doctrine_n of_o these_o protestant_n which_o can_v be_v uphold_v but_o by_o so_o shameful_a shift_n and_o when_o we_o drive_v they_o into_o such_o strait_n in_o a_o matter_n where_o they_o think_v most_o may_v be_v say_v for_o themselves_o and_o lest_o for_o our_o defence_n where_o shall_v they_o stand_v in_o our_o plain_a cause_n in_o which_o almost_o our_o adversary_n confess_v we_o to_o have_v the_o vantage_n of_o antiquity_n and_o the_o pre-eminence_n of_o all_o 〈◊〉_d counsel_n in_o the_o world_n but_o sure_o i_o think_v falsehood_n have_v so_o little_a hold_n in_o all_o matter_n that_o it_o stand_v only_o upright_o while_o the_o contrary_n be_v not_o see_v or_o not_o understand_v which_o she_o seek_v ever_o by_o all_o mean_v she_o may_v to_o cover_v and_o keep_v close_o for_o the_o night_n she_o love_v and_o in_o darkness_n she_o delight_v do_v but_o open_a the_o true_a sense_n of_o any_o article_n by_o they_o impugn_a and_o it_o be_v more_o than_o half_o prove_v and_o the_o enemy_n without_o argument_n upon_o the_o sight_n of_o truth_n in_o a_o manner_n discomfit_v so_o it_o fare_v with_o they_o in_o our_o present_a cause_n which_o they_o have_v long_o toil_v and_o trouble_v in_o the_o mist_n of_o their_o fantasy_n and_o upon_o false_a interpretation_n discharge_v among_o the_o simple_a sort_n that_o that_o thing_n which_o in_o this_o sense_n as_o god_n church_n that_o have_v the_o rule_n of_o the_o matter_n take_v it_o be_v so_o sure_a and_o so_o clear_a in_o itself_o that_o i_o think_v they_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a with_o honesty_n to_o speak_v against_o in_o any_o one_o parcel_n thereof_o fulke_v a_o boy_n that_o have_v study_v logic_n half_a a_o year_n may_v be_v ashamed_a to_o make_v such_o syllogism_n and_o yet_o you_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o affirm_v before_o the_o world_n that_o this_o argument_n be_v unmooveable_a except_o we_o reject_v with_o the_o pope_n pardon_n all_o manner_n of_o discipline_n and_o though_o it_o be_v manifest_a unto_o the_o world_n that_o we_o practice_v all_o godly_a discipline_n which_o be_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n in_o require_v the_o worthy_a fruit_n of_o repentance_n judge_v of_o ourselves_o obedience_n to_o christian_a prelate_n practise_v also_o the_o bind_n and_o retain_v of_o sin_n excommunication_n and_o deliver_v up_o to_o satan_n give_v that_o reverence_n we_o ought_v to_o the_o holy_a council_n of_o nice_a to_o all_o holy_a father_n and_o to_o the_o general_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o you_o blush_v not_o to_o write_v that_o we_o shall_v be_v enforce_v to_o reproove_v all_o these_o it_o be_v not_o these_o beggarly_a argument_n m._n allen_n that_o shall_v enforce_v we_o to_o these_o absurdity_n if_o you_o have_v any_o better_a stuff_n in_o store_n for_o pardon_n bring_v it_o out_o for_o shame_n or_o else_o talk_v no_o more_o of_o enforcement_n except_o it_o be_v in_o shrift_n where_o no_o man_n can_v control_v you_o the_o rest_n to_o the_o end_n of_o this_o chapter_n contain_v nothing_o but_o general_a rail_n and_o arrogant_a boast_n after_o your_o accustom_a manner_n i_o pass_v over_o as_o needless_a to_o be_v answer_v 〈◊〉_d wise_a than_o it_o do_v discover_v itself_o in_o any_o wise_a man_n judgement_n that_o there_o be_v diverse_a way_n of_o temporal_a punishment_n remain_v after_o sin_n be_v remit_v every_o of_o which_o way_n may_v be_v in_o some_o case_n release_v in_o part_n or_o in_o whole_a by_o the_o pardon_n of_o pope_n and_o bishop_n the_o sixth_o chap._n allen_n and_o yet_o to_o give_v more_o light_n to_o the_o matter_n and_o the_o great_a overthrow_n to_o falsehood_n let_v we_o drive_v the_o cause_n forward_o and_o weigh_v with_o ourselves_o the_o whole_a state_n of_o thing_n in_o this_o order_n first_o that_o there_o be_v three_o way_n of_o punishment_n of_o man_n sin_n after_o they_o be_v release_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n beside_o the_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n which_o man_n charge_v himself_o withal_o and_o beside_o the_o punishment_n appoint_v for_o offence_n by_o the_o civil_a or_o temporal_a law_n whereof_o i_o now_o speak_v not_o the_o first_o &_o the_o easy_a be_v that_o penance_n which_o be_v in_o secret_a confession_n enjoin_v by_o our_o confessor_n which_o be_v light_o as_o these_o time_n be_v much_o less_o than_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o offence_n for_o which_o it_o be_v prescribe_v require_v yet_o because_o it_o be_v take_v obedientlie_o and_o by_o our_o judge_n prescription_n and_o in_o a_o sacrament_n in_o which_o god_n always_o work_v much_o more_o grace_n than_o he_o do_v by_o the_o self_n same_o thing_n without_o the_o sacrament_n and_o because_o the_o penitent_a be_v ready_a to_o take_v more_o if_o more_o have_v be_v prescribe_v in_o all_o these_o respect_n it_o stand_v often_o if_o it_o be_v any_o thing_n correspondent_a to_o the_o crime_n for_o which_o it_o be_v enjoin_v for_o a_o full_a satisfaction_n before_o god_n when_o it_o be_v accomplish_v fulke_v in_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o this_o book_n you_o charge_v the_o reader_n to_o abide_v the_o orderly_a method_n and_o compass_n of_o this_o cause_n but_o the_o method_n you_o follow_v be_v such_o as_o become_v your_o cause_n namely_o the_o method_n of_o deceitfulnes_n which_o be_v that_o you_o call_v the_o compass_n of_o your_o cause_n for_o true_a method_n require_v to_o proceed_v from_o thing_n more_o &_o better_o know_v to_o thing_n less_o know_v as_o it_o be_v to_o build_v upon_o a_o good_a foundation_n but_o your_o manner_n be_v to_o assume_v that_o which_o be_v the_o chief_a matter_n in_o controversy_n and_o thereupon_o to_o build_v as_o it_o be_v upon_o a_o imaginary_a
the_o scripture_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n ancient_a father_n tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o primitive_a church_n they_o bind_v themselves_o to_o nothing_o but_o to_o the_o present_a pope_n authority_n and_o determi_fw-fr nation_n in_o thing_n which_o he_o may_v chop_n and_o change_n at_o his_o pleasure_n against_o which_o they_o admit_v neither_o scripture_n council_n father_n nor_o church_n for_o example_n brief_o the_o scripture_n most_o plain_o forbiddeh_a the_o worship_v of_o image_n will_v they_o give_v sovereign_a authority_n to_o the_o scripture_n all_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o six_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n condemn_v the_o worship_v of_o image_n even_o pope_n gregory_n that_o allow_v the_o use_n of_o they_o shall_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o primative_a eutych_n church_n or_o of_o pope_n gregory_n in_o this_o point_n over-rule_v they_o no_o i_o warrant_v you_o they_o will_v set_v they_o all_o to_o school_v and_o learn_v they_o a_o new_a lesson_n theodoretus_n bishop_n of_o cyrus_n and_o gelasius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n do_v in_o plain_a word_n affirm_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n do_v remain_v in_o the_o lord_n supper_n after_o consecration_n do_v either_o the_o antiquity_n of_o these_o father_n or_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n which_o otherwise_o they_o affirm_v never_o to_o err_v in_o doctrine_n prevail_v with_o they_o against_o their_o new_a here_o sie_a of_o transubstantiation_n the_o counsel_n of_o constantiople_n the_o first_o and_o of_o chalcedon_n decree_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n shall_v have_v equal_a authority_n and_o dignity_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n the_o counsel_n of_o constans_n and_o basill_n determine_v that_o the_o council_n be_v above_o the_o pope_n the_o counsel_n of_o constantinople_n the_o sixth_o and_o nice_a the_o second_o condemn_v the_o pope_n for_o a_o heretic_n will_v the_o papist_n of_o these_o day_n trow_v you_o stand_v to_o the_o determination_n of_o these_o counsel_n you_o may_v be_v assure_v they_o will_v not_o but_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n they_o hold_v fast_o and_o bind_v themselves_o unto_o yea_o very_o as_o long_o and_o as_o much_o as_o they_o listen_v what_o bear_v a_o great_a show_n of_o the_o apostle_n tradition_n than_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o excommunicate_a 6._o a_o bishop_n priest_n or_o deacon_n that_o put_v away_o his_o wiffe_n under_o pretence_n of_o religion_n which_o excommunicate_a any_o of_o the_o clergy_n that_o be_v present_a at_o the_o communion_n &_o do_v not_o communicate_v 8._o except_o he_o show_v a_o cause_n why_o he_o do_v not_o which_o admmit_v he_o that_o be_v maim_v in_o his_o eye_n or_o other_o part_n of_o his_o body_n be_v otherwise_o worthy_a unto_o the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n because_o the_o maim_n of_o the_o body_n do_v not_o pollute_v a_o man_n but_o the_o 77._o filthiness_n of_o the_o soul_n these_o &_o such_o like_a tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n how_o be_v they_o regard_v of_o our_o traditioner_n even_o as_o much_o as_o they_o listen_v and_o that_o be_v never_o a_o whit_n at_o this_o time_n and_o yet_o these_o man_n bind_v themselves_o to_o counsel_n father_n tradition_n primitive_a church_n you_o see_v how_o far_o yea_o you_o see_v that_o while_o they_o rail_v upon_o we_o for_o appeal_n to_o only_a scripture_n they_o themselves_o rely_v upon_o the_o present_a pope_n authority_n only_o let_v all_o indifferent_a man_n therefore_o judge_v whether_o it_o be_v more_o safe_a for_o a_o christian_a man_n to_o bind_v himself_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n only_o or_o to_o the_o pope_n authority_n only_o and_o whether_o claim_v a_o privilege_n of_o ease_n they_o that_o will_v admit_v no_o testimony_n irrefragable_a but_o only_o the_o scripture_n or_o they_o which_o chatter_v of_o many_o other_o thing_n in_o the_o end_n conclude_v upon_o the_o church_n only_o which_o when_o it_o come_v to_o trial_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o pope_n only_o for_o if_o all_o the_o church_n say_v it_o and_o the_o pope_n deny_v it_o it_o be_v nothing_o worth_a with_o they_o and_o if_o the_o pope_n affirm_v it_o though_o all_o the_o church_n deny_v it_o it_o must_v stand_v for_o payment_n but_o see_v the_o sense_n and_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n be_v the_o chief_a matter_n we_o have_v to_o speak_v of_o let_v we_o consider_v whether_o master_n charke_n be_v justly_o charge_v by_o our_o answerer_n to_o have_v abuse_v that_o scripture_n by_o interpretation_n which_o be_v the_o chief_a ground_n of_o his_o preface_n and_o which_o he_o say_v be_v a_o full_a and_o plain_a rule_n whereby_o to_o discern_v and_o try_v the_o spirit_n namely_o the_o text_n of_o saint_n john_n 1._o john_n 4._o every_o spirit_n which_o confess_v jesus_n christ_n be_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n be_v of_o god_n and_o every_o spirit_n which_o confess_v not_o jesus_n christ_n be_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n be_v not_o of_o god_n and_o this_o be_v that_o spirit_n of_o antichrist_n etc._n etc._n this_o text_n master_n charke_n do_v so_o expound_v as_o that_o it_o contain_v a_o confession_n not_o only_o of_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n but_o also_o of_o his_o office_n for_o which_o office_n sake_n that_o wonderful_a person_n of_o god_n and_o man_n jesus_n christ_n be_v ordain_v and_o send_v into_o the_o world_n to_o be_v a_o prophet_n alone_o to_o teach_v a_o king_n alone_o to_o rule_v a_o priest_n alone_o to_o sanctify_v we_o and_o to_o reconcile_v we_o to_o his_o father_n by_o the_o obedience_n of_o faith_n and_o if_o any_o spiritte_v shall_v teach_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o our_o only_a teacher_n by_o his_o gospel_n but_o that_o we_o must_v admit_v unwritten_a belief_n and_o tradition_n from_o we_o know_v not_o who_o to_o be_v of_o like_a authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n secondlie_o if_o any_o spirit_n make_v not_o christ_n alone_o our_o king_n and_o head_n to_o rule_v we_o by_o his_o holy_a spirit_n but_o teach_v that_o a_o mortal_a and_o sinful_a man_n must_v sit_v in_o our_o conscience_n and_o for_o hatred_n or_o gain_n which_o be_v his_o practice_n bind_v or_o loose_v at_o his_o pleasure_n last_o if_o any_o spirit_n impeach_v the_o all-sufficiencie_n and_o entire_a virtue_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n offer_v up_o once_o for_o ever_o and_o teach_v that_o themselves_o must_v enforce_v it_o from_o day_n to_o day_n by_o the_o continuance_n of_o their_o daily_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n offer_v for_o the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a it_o appear_v manifest_o that_o such_o spirit_n be_v not_o of_o god_n etc._n etc._n this_o interpretation_n of_o master_n charke_n say_v the_o answerer_n contain_v many_o absurdity_n for_o first_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v expound_v this_o place_n as_o of_o itself_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a against_o the_o jew_n which_o deny_v christ_n to_o have_v take_v flesh_n also_o against_o ebion_n cerinthus_n and_o other_o heretic_n that_o deny_v the_o godhead_n of_o christ._n note_v here_o by_o the_o adversary_n confession_n that_o some_o place_n of_o scripture_n be_v of_o themselves_o most_o evident_a whereof_o this_o be_v one_o against_o the_o jew_n &_o other_o heretic_n that_o deny_v the_o godhead_n of_o christ._n and_o i_o hope_v you_o shall_v see_v it_o short_o as_o evident_a against_o the_o papist_n that_o deny_v his_o office_n to_o this_o interpretation_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n we_o agree_v that_o whosoever_o deni_v the_o person_n of_o christ_n or_o any_o thing_n proper_a to_o his_o person_n be_v of_o antichrist_n but_o none_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v affirm_v that_o this_o text_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v against_o such_o enemy_n only_o as_o deny_v the_o godhead_n or_o manhood_n of_o christ._n for_o augustine_n and_o oecumenius_n do_v interpret_v it_o against_o all_o heretic_n and_o schismatics_n which_o although_o they_o confess_v this_o matter_n in_o word_n yet_o deny_v it_o in_o deed_n and_o oecumenius_n against_o all_o wicked_a person_n which_o have_v not_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n mortify_v their_o ungodlie_a lust_n which_o carry_v not_o the_o mortification_n of_o christ_n in_o their_o body_n etc._n etc._n augustine_n also_o expound_v the_o place_n against_o all_o that_o break_v charity_n 7._o omnes_fw-la negant_fw-la jesum_fw-la christum_fw-la in_fw-la carne_fw-la venisse_fw-la qui_fw-la violent_fw-la charitatem_fw-la all_o they_o deny_v jesus_n christ_n to_o have_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n which_o do_v break_v or_o violate_v charity_n &_o why_o so_o because_o not_o only_o the_o person_n that_o come_v but_o the_o end_n why_o he_o come_v must_v be_v consider_v in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o this_o place_n as_o saint_n augustine_n right_o judge_v or_o else_o all_o heretic_n will_v after_o a_o manner_n in_o tongue_n and_o word_n confess_v that_o jesus_n christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n but_o quaeramus_fw-la say_v
he_o quare_fw-la venerit_fw-la in_o carne_fw-la christus_fw-la &_o inveniemus_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la negant_fw-la in_o carne_fw-la venisse_fw-la let_v we_o inquire_v wherefore_o christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o we_o shall_v find_v who_o they_o be_v which_o deny_v he_o to_o have_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n for_o if_o you_o give_v heed_n to_o their_o tongue_n you_o shall_v hear_v many_o heretic_n confess_v that_o christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n but_o the_o truth_n convince_v they_o wherefore_o come_v christ_n in_o the_o flesh_n be_v he_o not_o god_n be_v it_o not_o say_v of_o he_o in_o the_o beginning_n be_v the_o word_n and_o the_o word_n be_v with_o god_n and_o the_o word_n be_v god_n do_v he_o not_o feed_v the_o angel_n and_o do_v not_o he_o himself_o feed_v the_o angel_n do_v he_o not_o so_o come_v that_o he_o depart_v 〈◊〉_d fromthence_o do_v he_o not_o so_o ascend_v that_o he_o do_v not_o forsake_v we_o then_o wherefore_o come_v he_o in_o the_o flesh_n because_o the_o hope_n of_o resurrection_n ought_v to_o have_v be_v show_v unto_o us._n he_o be_v god_n and_o he_o come_v in_o the_o flesh_n for_o god_n can_v not_o die_v the_o flesh_n can_v therefore_o he_o come_v in_o the_o flesh_n that_o he_o may_v die_v for_o us._n and_o how_o die_v he_o for_o we_o no_o man_n have_v great_a love_n than_o this_o to_o give_v his_o life_n for_o his_o friend_n therefore_o love_v bring_v he_o to_o the_o flesh_n whosoever_o therefore_o have_v not_o love_n deni_v christ_n to_o have_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n it_o be_v manifest_a now_o by_o this_o discourse_n of_o augustine_n upon_o some_o particular_a cause_n of_o christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n that_o his_o chief_a and_o principal_a office_n can_v be_v exclude_v in_o the_o right_a interpretation_n of_o this_o text_n and_o therefore_o master_n charke_n have_v right_o infer_v that_o whoesoever_o deni_v the_o office_n of_o christ_n or_o any_o part_n of_o they_o be_v no_o less_o confound_v by_o this_o scripture_n than_o they_o that_o deny_v his_o person_n or_o any_o part_n or_o essential_a property_n thereof_o and_o that_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n exposition_n without_o the_o which_o also_o the_o text_n be_v evident_a of_o itself_o for_o the_o very_a name_n of_o jesus_n and_o christ_n do_v comprehend_v his_o office_n which_o whoesoever_o deni_v although_o in_o word_n he_o confess_v his_o person_n and_o name_n do_v make_v but_o a_o idol_n of_o jesus_n christ_n whoesoever_o therefore_o confess_v not_o christ_n to_o be_v a_o saviour_n prophet_n king_n and_o priest_n be_v not_o of_o god_n but_o of_o antichrist_n he_o whosoever_o confess_v not_o that_o he_o be_v a_o whole_a and_o only_a saviour_n prophet_n king_n and_o priest_n be_v of_o the_o same_o spirit_n of_o antichrist_n that_o deni_v jesus_n christ_n be_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n or_o as_o the_o vulgar_a translation_n have_v that_o dissolve_v jesus_n for_o whoesoever_o set_v up_o any_o other_o saviour_n prophet_n king_n or_o priest_n in_o that_o sense_n that_o these_o office_n pertain_v unto_o jesus_n christ_n dissolve_v jesus_n deni_v jesus_n christ_n to_o have_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n who_o come_v to_o be_v our_o only_a master-teacher_n according_a 8._o to_o the_o manifest_a text_n of_o scripture_n which_o have_v teach_v we_o all_o thing_n likewise_o our_o only_a spiritual_a king_n &_o eternal_a 25._o and_o high_a priest_n who_o office_n both_o kingly_a and_o priestly_a be_v confirm_v to_o he_o by_o a_o oath_n pass_v 16._o not_o from_o he_o unto_o any_o other_o in_o succession_n but_o remain_v always_o the_o only_a mighty_a prince_n king_n of_o king_n and_o lord_n of_o lord_n whoesoever_o therefore_o derogate_v from_o christ_n any_o part_n of_o these_o dignity_n &_o office_n deni_v jesus_n christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o so_o do_v the_o popish_a catholic_n or_o papist_n by_o their_o doctrine_n of_o tradition_n pope_n authority_n sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n and_o such_o like_a nay_o say_v the_o answerer_n martin_n luther_n interprete_v this_o place_n to_o be_v understand_v of_o m._n charke_n and_o his_o fellow_n 414._o say_v that_o spirit_n be_v not_o of_o god_n but_o of_o antichrist_n which_o dissolve_v christ_n flesh_n in_o the_o sacrament_n it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o martin_n luther_n be_v in_o this_o case_n to_o rash_a and_o presumptuous_a in_o condemn_v other_o man_n for_o hold_v this_o contrary_a to_o that_o wherein_o he_o err_v himself_o but_o this_o answerer_n be_v too_o impudent_a to_o feign_v say_n &_o word_n of_o he_o yea_o and_o to_o apply_v that_o which_o he_o say_v further_a than_o luther_n himself_o do_v for_o first_o these_o word_n that_o be_v allege_v as_o luther_n saying_n be_v none_o of_o he_o but_o forge_v by_o the_o answerer_n secondlie_o that_o which_o luther_n say_v sound_v to_o such_o a_o matter_n can_v not_o be_v draw_v against_o m._n charke_n and_o his_o fellow_n who_o maintain_v no_o such_o absurdity_n as_o luther_n in_o that_o place_n oppugn_v the_o very_a word_n of_o luther_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v defen_n verb_n caenae_n accipite_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v these_o quare_fw-la in_o superioribus_fw-la dixi_fw-la hunc_fw-la spiritum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la bonum_fw-la neque_fw-la per_fw-la istos_fw-la fanaticos_fw-la homines_fw-la quicquam_fw-la boni_fw-la machinari_fw-la quanquam_fw-la existimem_fw-la hos_fw-la concionatores_fw-la contra_fw-la quos_fw-la haec_fw-la scribuntur_fw-la nondum_fw-la mali_fw-la quicquam_fw-la in_o animo_fw-la habere_fw-la sed_fw-la bene_fw-la deus_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la svi_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la compotes_fw-la &_o continentes_fw-la à_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o captivi_fw-la tenentur_fw-la quare_fw-la eye_n nimium_fw-la sidendum_fw-la non_fw-la ect_fw-la nam_fw-la spiritus_fw-la qui_fw-la christi_fw-la carnem_fw-la dissoluit_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la inquit_fw-la joannes_n idqque_fw-la probam_fw-la spirituum_fw-la vult_fw-la esse_fw-la hic_fw-la spiritus_fw-la verè_fw-la dissoluit_fw-la carnem_fw-la christi_fw-la cùm_fw-la cam_fw-la inutilem_fw-la pereuntem_fw-la &_o prorsus_fw-la communem_fw-la carnem_fw-la affirmat_fw-la qualis_fw-la est_fw-la bovis_fw-la aut_fw-la vituli_fw-la wherefore_o i_o say_v before_o that_o this_o spirit_n be_v not_o good_a neither_o anabaptiste_n go_v about_o any_o good_a thing_n by_o these_o fantastical_a man_n the_o rebellious_a bower_n although_o i_o suppose_v these_o preacher_n against_o who_o these_o thing_n be_v now_o write_v as_o yet_o to_o have_v none_o evil_a thing_n in_o their_o mind_n but_o good_a god_n they_o have_v no_o power_n nor_o hold_v of_o themselves_o they_o be_v blind_v and_o hold_v captive_a by_o a_o spirit_n wherefore_o they_o must_v not_o be_v trust_v too_o much_o for_o that_o spirit_n which_o dissolve_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o of_o god_n say_v saint_n john_n and_o that_o he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v the_o trial_n of_o spirit_n this_o spirit_n in_o deed_n dissolve_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n when_o it_o affirm_v that_o it_o be_v unprofitable_a perish_v and_o altogether_o common_a flesh_n such_o as_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o a_o ox_n or_o a_o calf_n this_o be_v luther_n saying_n now_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o m_o charke_n and_o his_o fellow_n do_v neithet_n think_v nor_o speak_v so_o unreverentlie_o of_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n animate_v with_o his_o spirit_n which_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v very_o true_a meat_n wherewith_o we_o be_v feed_v unto_o eternal_a life_n they_o have_v some_o smack_n of_o nestorianisme_n therefore_o against_o who_o luther_n utter_v these_o word_n from_o which_o m._n charke_n and_o his_o fellow_n god_n be_v thank_v be_v free_a but_o now_o come_v our_o answerer_n after_o he_o have_v forge_v a_o place_n of_o luther_n and_o hammer_v it_o out_o against_o master_n charke_n to_o marvel_v that_o these_o man_n can_v find_v so_o many_o absurdity_n upon_o one_o sentence_n of_o scripture_n and_o first_o he_o will_v ask_v whether_o master_n charke_n think_v that_o the_o papist_n do_v exclude_v christ_n when_o they_o allow_v prophet_n to_o teach_v under_o he_o king_n to_o reign_v under_o he_o priests_z to_o sanctify_v under_o he_o or_o no._n as_o though_o there_o be_v no_o way_n for_o papist_n to_o be_v guilty_a of_o antichristianisme_n except_o they_o do_v exclude_v christ_n altogether_o whereas_o it_o have_v be_v prove_v that_o whosoever_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o whole_a and_o every_o part_n of_o his_o office_n be_v of_o antichrist_n as_o for_o prophet_n king_n and_o priest_n to_o teach_v reign_n and_o sanctify_v under_o christ_n be_v not_o the_o matter_n in_o question_n but_o to_o teach_v reign_n &_o sanctify_v beside_o christ_n to_o claim_v like_o authority_n in_o teach_v govern_v &_o sanctify_v with_o he_o as_o to_o be_v fellow_n prophet_n fellow_n king_n &_o fellow_n priest_n with_o he_o to_o teach_v that_o christ_n teach_v not_o to_o make_v article_n of_o faith_n to_o dispense_v against_o god_n commandment_n to_o make_v law_n to_o bind_v the_o
of_o his_o godhead_n which_o be_v proper_a unto_o it_o andwhatsoever_o in_o holy_a scripture_n be_v read_v to_o be_v exercise_v of_o he_o through_o the_o might_n of_o god_n spirit_n by_o the_o virtue_n of_o his_o anoint_v by_o the_o finger_n of_o god_n by_o the_o send_n of_o the_o father_n by_o power_n receive_v from_o above_o by_o priesthood_n prayer_n or_o sacrifice_n by_o the_o son_n of_o man_n of_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n or_o judge_v of_o the_o live_n and_o dead_a whatsoever_o be_v in_o this_o sort_n say_v to_o be_v do_v it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o light_o mean_v but_o in_o respect_n of_o christ_n humanity_n by_o which_o and_o in_o which_o he_o work_v the_o same_o not_o as_o by_o the_o proper_a and_o natural_a power_n or_o force_v thereof_o but_o as_o by_o jurisdiction_n receive_v of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n and_o employ_v upon_o the_o son_n of_o man_n for_o the_o procure_n of_o salvation_n to_o his_o people_n whereof_o he_o be_v become_v in_o our_o very_a nature_n the_o head_n fulke_v this_o general_a rule_n be_v so_o abridge_v with_o the_o exception_n light_o that_o it_o be_v hard_o to_o bring_v any_o instance_n against_o it_o but_o allen_n will_v have_v his_o start_a hole_n in_o it_o nevertheless_o see_v he_o conclude_v the_o example_n before_o remember_v to_o be_v include_v within_o this_o rule_n we_o may_v be_v bold_a to_o charge_v he_o with_o a_o spice_n of_o nestorianisme_n see_v those_o work_n which_o be_v certain_a to_o have_v be_v the_o work_n of_o the_o mediator_n god_n and_o man_n he_o ascribe_v to_o the_o only_a humanity_n by_o jurisdiction_n receive_v from_o the_o bless_a trinity_n whereby_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o the_o work_n of_o christ_n in_o this_o respect_n shall_v not_o differ_v from_o the_o work_n of_o moses_n elias_n david_n or_o any_o of_o the_o prophet_n who_o receive_v jurisdiction_n from_o the_o bless_a trinity_n whereby_o they_o perform_v many_o work_n which_o the_o same_o bless_a trinity_n have_v appoint_v for_o the_o procure_n of_o salvation_n unto_o his_o people_n allen_n therefore_o no_o christian_a man_n may_v doubt_v but_o as_o our_o saviour_n by_o the_o omnipotent_a power_n of_o his_o godhead_n might_n and_o do_v forgive_v sin_n to_o the_o penitent_a so_o likewise_o that_o as_o he_o be_v priest_n &_o the_o son_n of_o man_n he_o may_v by_o the_o right_n of_o his_o office_n unction_n and_o ministry_n in_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n remit_v sin_n also_o and_o for_o that_o cause_n principal_o in_o the_o prophet_n esay_n it_o be_v say_v spiritus_fw-la dominisuper_fw-la i_o eo_fw-la quòd_fw-la unxerit_fw-la i_o ad_fw-la annunciandum_fw-la mansuetis_fw-la misit_fw-la i_o ut_fw-la mederer_fw-la contritis_fw-la cord_n &_o praedicarem_fw-la captivis_fw-la indulgentiam_fw-la &_o clausis_fw-la apertionem_fw-la the_o spirit_n of_o the_o lord_n vopn_v i_o because_o he_o have_v anoint_v i_o and_o send_v i_o to_o signify_v unto_o the_o meek_a that_o i_o shall_v heal_v the_o contrite_a in_o heart_n to_o preach_v pardon_n to_o the_o prisoner_n and_o freedom_n to_o the_o close_v the_o which_o place_n of_o the_o prophet_n our_o saviour_n apply_v unto_o himself_o in_o the_o church_n of_o nazareth_n and_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v only_o of_o preach_v and_o pardon_v by_o the_o holy_a unction_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n and_o his_o father_n calling_n and_o therefore_o it_o must_v needs_o according_a to_o saint_n augustine_n judgement_n concern_v the_o shape_n of_o his_o service_n and_o manhood_n take_v on_o he_o in_o which_o he_o preach_v so_o that_o yet_o it_o please_v he_o to_o affirm_v that_o his_o doctrine_n be_v not_o his_o own_o but_o his_o father_n that_o send_v he_o and_o heal_v the_o contrite_a in_o heart_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o forgive_v sin_n to_o the_o penitent_a after_o such_o a_o sort_n that_o it_o may_v well_o appear_v to_o be_v receive_v and_o practise_v by_o the_o unction_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n and_o send_v of_o his_o father_n whereby_o the_o son_n of_o man_n may_v do_v that_o as_o god_n minister_n in_o his_o manhood_n in_o earth_n which_o both_o he_o and_o his_o eternal_a father_n with_o the_o holy_a spirit_n of_o they_o both_o do_v work_n by_o their_o own_o one_o and_o equal_a authority_n in_o heaven_n everlastinglie_o fulke_v and_o see_v he_o will_v we_o to_o note_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o cause_n which_o be_v that_o christ_n as_o he_o be_v priest_n and_o the_o son_n of_o man_n may_v remit_v sin_n by_o a_o ministeriereceive_v by_o unction_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n it_o be_v not_o light_o to_o be_v pass_v over_o that_o the_o son_n of_o man_n have_v power_n upon_o earth_n to_o forgive_v sin_n he_o himself_o affirm_v mat._n 9_o 6._o but_o this_o be_v the_o power_n of_o his_o godhead_n which_o be_v not_o restrain_v nor_o abase_v by_o the_o shape_n of_o a_o servant_n in_o which_o he_o appear_v on_o earth_n that_o he_o be_v authorize_v by_o unction_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o preach_v remission_n of_o sin_n unto_o the_o penitent_a it_o pertane_v indeed_o unto_o he_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o manhood_n although_o saint_n augustine_n in_o the_o place_n by_o allen_n quote_v say_v not_o so_o but_o cit_v the_o place_n of_o esaie_n to_o prove_v that_o christ_n in_o respct_n of_o his_o humanity_n be_v inferior_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o that_o this_o be_v all_o the_o power_n that_o christ_n have_v upon_o earth_n to_o remit_v sin_n it_o be_v not_o prove_v by_o any_o argument_n for_o this_o ministry_n of_o reconciliation_n to_o remit_v sin_n by_o preach_v of_o the_o gospel_n do_v remain_v still_o with_o the_o church_n the_o other_o that_o be_v proper_a to_o his_o deity_n no_o mortal_a man_n without_o sacrilege_n can_v arrogate_v or_o usurp_v allen_n and_o though_o god_n have_v never_o 〈◊〉_d man_n fall_n use_v the_o mean_n and_o service_n of_o man_n to_z his_o restore_v again_o and_o to_o the_o relief_n of_o his_o lack_n and_o therefore_o have_v give_v authority_n by_o his_o holy_a spirit_n and_o unction_n to_o diverse_a of_o the_o old_a law_n to_o offer_v sacrifice_n prayer_n and_o procure_v remission_n to_o the_o people_n of_o all_o their_o offence_n and_o no_o less_o 〈◊〉_d occasion_n serve_v and_o the_o matter_n require_v to_o correct_v their_o misdeed_n by_o judgement_n and_o jurisdiction_n give_v unto_o they_o for_o which_o sovereign_a call_n they_o be_v call_v the_o anoint_v of_o god_n a_o external_a ceremony_n of_o anoyt_v being_n solemn_o annex_v thereunto_o yet_o our_o lord_n a_o master_n whether_o you_o consider_v his_o high_a priesthood_n by_o which_o in_o most_o ample_a manner_n through_o commission_n receive_v he_o may_v procure_v our_o pardon_n or_o his_o calling_n to_o be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n by_o which_o he_o rule_v and_o keep_v all_o the_o body_n in_o due_a subjection_n and_o order_n or_o his_o ministry_n of_o preach_v whereby_o far_o above_o all_o the_o prophet_n and_o preacher_n of_o the_o old_a law_n he_o open_v to_o his_o flock_n the_o church_n the_o secret_a mystery_n of_o god_n truth_n christ_n i_o say_v in_o all_o these_o respect_n be_v man_n be_v yet_o much_o more_o abundantlie_o bless_v and_o anoint_v without_o comparison_n above_o all_o his_o fellow_n and_o copartner_n as_o the_o holy_a prophet_n david_n do_v testify_v upon_o who_o word_n touch_v that_o matter_n saint_n hilary_n write_v thus_o vnxit_fw-la te_fw-la deus_fw-la deus_fw-la tuus_fw-la oleo_fw-la exultationis_fw-la prae_fw-la participibus_fw-la tuis_fw-la non_fw-la secundùm_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la aliud_fw-la quàm_fw-la secundùm_fw-la dispensationem_fw-la assumpti_fw-la corporis_fw-la vnctio_fw-la enim_fw-la illa_fw-la non_fw-la beatae_fw-la illi_fw-la &_o incorrupt_a &_o in_o natura_fw-la dei_fw-la man_n enti_fw-la nativitati_fw-la profecit_fw-la sed_fw-la sanctificationi_fw-la hominis_fw-la assumpti_fw-la no_o &_o in_fw-la act_v ait_fw-la petrus_n unxit_fw-la illum_fw-la deus_fw-la in_o spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la &_o virtute_fw-la thus_o he_o mean_v in_o english_a god_n etien_n thy_o god_n have_v anoint_v thou_o with_o the_o oil_n of_o joy_n far_o above_o thy_o copartner_n not_o in_o any_o other_o meaning_n but_o according_a to_o the_o dispensation_n of_o a_o body_n receive_v for_o that_o unction_n can_v not_o be_v beneficial_a to_o the_o holy_a unspotted_a and_o everlasting_a nativity_n in_o the_o nature_n of_o his_o godhead_n but_o only_o it_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o mystery_n of_o his_o manhood_n and_o flesh_n assumpt_v in_o his_o temporal_a nativity_n whereof_o saint_n peter_n speak_v in_o the_o act_n that_o god_n have_v anoint_v he_o with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o with_o power_n the_o holy_a father_n also_o saint_n cyrill_n agree_v hereunto_o confess_v that_o all_o this_o honour_n power_n and_o authority_n which_o the_o prophet_n have_v signify_v so_o long_o before_o by_o the_o anoint_v of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n come_v unto_o christ_n in_o consideration_n
great_a lack_n ofruler_n if_o she_o have_v make_v her_o only_a contemner_n to_o be_v she_o own_o governor_n no_o these_o sellowe_n hold_v not_o by_o she_o but_o they_o hold_v against_o she_o these_o sit_v in_o no_o seat_n apostolic_a but_o they_o by_o all_o force_n dishonour_v the_o seat_n apostolic_a these_o be_v not_o they_o qui_fw-la pro_fw-la patribus_fw-la nati_fw-la sunt_fw-la tibi_fw-la filii_fw-la but_o these_o be_v the_o son_n quos_fw-la enutrivisti_fw-la &_o genuisti_fw-la ipsi_fw-la spreveruntte_fw-la if_o you_o ask_v of_o these_o man_n how_o they_o hold_v they_o seek_v no_o father_n after_o who_o they_o may_v right_o rule_v they_o seek_v no_o large_a rue_n of_o predecessor_n in_o who_o place_n they_o may_v sit_v they_o ask_v no_o counsel_n of_o god_n church_n by_o who_o calling_n they_o shall_v govern_v but_o they_o make_v a_o long_a discourse_n of_o statute_n and_o temporal_a law_n to_o cover_v their_o ambitious_a usurpation_n that_o in_o great_a lack_n of_o christ_n calling_n their_o unjust_a honour_n may_v be_v approve_v by_o man_n favour_n thereby_o let_v they_o hold_v their_o temporal_a dignity_n their_o land_n their_o livelihoode_n their_o wife_n also_o if_o there_o can_v obtain_v so_o much_o at_o the_o common_a wealth_n hand_n but_o their_o spiritual_a function_n their_o minister_a of_o sacrament_n their_o governance_n of_o our_o soul_n and_o what_o else_o soever_o they_o usurp_v without_o the_o warrant_n of_o god_n church_n the_o long_o they_o exercise_v they_o the_o far_o they_o be_v from_o salvation_n and_o the_o near_a to_o eternal_a woe_n and_o misery_n but_o to_o come_v to_o our_o purpose_n it_o be_v our_o church_n catholic_a in_o which_o all_o holy_a function_n have_v be_v practise_v after_o christ_n institution_n ever_o since_o his_o ascension_n up_o to_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o this_o principal_a power_n of_o remit_v and_o retain_v sin_n must_v needs_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o church_n by_o her_o minister_n and_o priest_n as_o it_o be_v begin_v in_o the_o apostle_n before_o fulke_v i_o like_v well_o your_o pretence_n after_o a_o large_a discourse_n to_o knit_v up_o your_o whole_a intent_n in_o a_o syllogism_n which_o you_o set_v as_o a_o matke_v for_o we_o to_o shoot_v at_o while_o we_o live_v very_o your_o argument_n if_o one_o word_n be_v away_o i_o will_v willing_o grant_v but_o the_o word_n proper_o you_o be_v never_o able_a to_o prove_v while_o you_o live_v nor_o all_o the_o papist_n in_o the_o world_n after_o you_o be_v dead_a therefore_o in_o respect_n of_o that_o word_n i_o deny_v your_o minor_n and_o yet_o i_o grant_v that_o you_o infer_v upon_o it_o your_o conclusion_n in_o such_o term_n as_o you_o have_v set_v it_o down_o that_o lawful_a priest_n elder_n or_o minister_n of_o god_n church_n at_o this_o day_n have_v as_o fullpower_v to_o forgive_v sin_n in_o their_o several_a charge_n as_o the_o apostle_n have_v in_o their_o gener_fw-la all_o commission_n but_o here_o you_o will_v needs_o examine_v we_o what_o church_n that_o be_v in_o which_o christ_n do_v preserve_v the_o government_n give_v to_o the_o apostle_n the_o catholic_a church_n forsooth_o 2._o where_o the_o power_n of_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n if_o you_o mean_v that_o by_o your_o term_n of_o make_v and_o practise_v have_v continue_v still_o in_o the_o catholic_a church_n 3._o what_o company_n of_o christ_n a_o people_n that_o be_v wherein_o the_o apostle_n doctor_n preacher_n minister_n through_o the_o perpetual_a assistance_n of_o god_n spirit_n be_v continue_v for_o the_o build_n up_o of_o christ_n body_n which_o be_v the_o number_n of_o the_o faithful_a still_o i_o answer_v the_o company_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n 4._o what_o church_n that_o be_v which_o bring_v forth_o from_o time_n to_o time_n son_n to_o occupy_v the_o room_n of_o their_o father_n before_o they_o here_o i_o answer_v many_o heretical_a and_o malignant_a church_n but_o only_o the_o catholic_a church_n have_v continue_v from_o the_o begin_n in_o such_o propagation_n you_o answer_v yourself_o and_o say_v it_o be_v not_o it_o be_v not_o the_o pelting-packe_n &_o petrie_n congregation_n of_o the_o protestant_n to_o your_o double_a negation_n a_o single_a affirmation_n may_v serve_v it_o be_v the_o church_n of_o they_o you_o call_v potestantes_n in_o europe_n which_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n disperse_v over_o all_o the_o earth_n which_o church_n of_o the_o protestant_n i_o see_v not_o why_o you_o shall_v so_o pelt_v at_o it_o with_o your_o pettierhetorike_n it_o be_v god_n be_v thank_v as_o great_a and_o as_o glorious_a at_o this_o time_n in_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o world_n as_o the_o romish_a rabble_n except_o that_o the_o minister_n thereof_o be_v not_o so_o proud_a nor_o so_o gorgeous_a that_o whore_n of_o babylon_n your_o dame_n who_o you_o will_v have_v to_o be_v accept_v for_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o christ_n which_o boast_v herself_o that_o she_o be_v no_o widow_n be_v now_o of_o many_o forsake_a &_o of_o her_o spiritual_a for_o nication_n begetteih_o but_o feew_a bastard_n in_o comparison_n of_o that_o she_o be_v wont_a to_o do_v therefore_o it_o be_v not_o no_o no_o that_o will_v be_v able_a to_o pull_v we_o out_o of_o the_o apostolic_a chair_n in_o which_o we_o teach_v nothing_o but_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n consonant_n unto_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o prophet_n these_o father_n we_o seek_v to_o hold_v of_o and_o all_o other_o that_o hold_v of_o the_o same_o line_n we_o hold_v with_o they_o as_o for_o large_a view_n of_o predecessor_n we_o know_v it_o must_v necessary_o ensue_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n because_o of_o the_o perpetual_a continuance_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o we_o take_v not_o up_o old_a mouldy_a and_o mothen_fw-ge parchemente_n to_o seek_v our_o progenitour_n name_n but_o by_o consanguinity_n of_o doctrine_n with_o the_o apostle_n as_o tertullian_n call_v it_o know_v we_o be_v apostolic_a and_o set_v in_o apostolic_a place_n as_o for_o the_o long_a discourse_n of_o statute_n &_o temporal_a law_n that_o you_o talk_v of_o we_o claim_v no_o spiritual_a inheritance_n thereby_o although_o we_o accept_v the_o confirmation_n of_o temporal_a law_n for_o the_o better_a execution_n of_o our_o office_n what_o i_o pray_v you_o sir_n have_v not_o you_o papist_n in_o queen_n mary_n time_n as_o large_a a_o discourse_n of_o statute_n and_o temporal_a law_n as_o we_o have_v for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o your_o popish_a superstition_n and_o all_o thing_n thereto_o belong_v and_o yet_o you_o will_v procure_v envy_n to_o we_o of_o statute_n and_o temporal_a law_n as_o though_o we_o hold_v only_o by_o they_o as_o for_o temporal_a dignites_n land_n lievely_a hode_n i_o know_v not_o how_o they_o shall_v be_v maintain_v but_o by_o temporal_a law_n out_o wife_n we_o hold_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n against_o which_o there_o be_v no_o temporal_a law_n of_o the_o land_n by_o infinite_a better_a right_n than_o you_o do_v hold_v your_o stew_n and_o other_o remedy_n of_o your_o incontinency_n and_o as_o for_o spiritual_a function_n we_o hold_v they_o by_o the_o same_o right_n that_o they_o be_v first_o give_v to_o the_o church_n and_o have_v therein_o continue_v even_o to_o this_o day_n a_o answer_n to_o such_o as_o deny_v this_o power_n to_o pass_v from_o the_o apostle_n to_o all_o other_o priest_n because_o many_o of_o they_o be_v evil_a man_n may_v be_v think_v not_o to_o have_v the_o holy_a ghost_n whereby_o they_o shall_v effectual_o remit_v sin_n the_o sixth_z chap._n and_o to_o caluin_n or_o other_o of_o his_o sect_n that_o require_v the_o like_a virtue_n and_o force_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n assistance_n in_o all_o man_n that_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o remit_v sin_n as_o it_o be_v give_v to_o the_o apostle_n who_o first_o receive_v that_o power_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o same_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v yet_o in_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o same_o sacrament_n no_o less_o then_o in_o the_o apostle_n for_o though_o they_o have_v more_o plentiful_a sanctification_n whereby_o they_o be_v in_o all_o their_o life_n more_o holy_a and_o more_o virtuous_a then_o light_o any_o other_o either_o priest_n or_o lay_v man_n be_v after_o they_o yet_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n touch_v the_o ministry_n and_o service_n of_o god_n church_n which_o be_v not_o so_o much_o give_v they_o for_o their_o own_o sake_n as_o for_o the_o use_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n and_o for_o the_o right_n of_o practise_v certain_a holy_a function_n requisite_a for_o the_o people_n sanctification_n as_o they_o be_v also_o give_v to_o diverse_a that_o be_v neither_o good_a nor_o virtuous_a and_o therefore_o lack_v that_o which_o proper_o be_v that_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o be_v call_v of_o our_o school_n man_n
be_v by_o they_o baptise_a it_o seem_v they_o take_v it_o of_o their_o master_n novatus_fw-la who_o because_o he_o have_v contemn_v he_o ceremony_n use_v in_o that_o time_n of_o the_o church_n himself_o teach_v his_o scholar_n to_o do_v the_o same_o leave_v it_o shall_v haw_o be_v repute_v a_o want_n in_o he_o although_o not_o the_o omission_n of_o the_o ceremony_n but_o the_o contempt_n of_o the_o usage_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o impious_a in_o itself_o be_v chief_o condemn_v in_o he_o for_o at_o such_o time_n as_o he_o be_v ordain_v elder_a or_o priest_n of_o the_o church_n of_o 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v think_v by_o the_o bishope_n a_o matter_n that_o may_v be_v remit_v in_o he_o that_o for_o other_o respect_n seem_v meet_v for_o the_o office_n neither_o be_v it_o think_v necessary_a that_o he_o shall_v receive_v that_o ceremony_n so_o by_o he_o omit_v but_o not_o yet_o as_o it_o be_v think_v in_o despite_n of_o the_o church_n refuse_v the_o father_n oflater_n time_n as_o theodoret_n write_v decree_v that_o such_o as_o come_v from_o his_o heresy_n and_o will_v be_v incorporate_v into_o the_o church_n shall_v by_o receive_v that_o ceremony_n which_o in_o time_n of_o their_o heresy_n they_o despise_v declare_v that_o they_o be_v true_o convert_v from_o it_o and_o willinghe_a submit_a themselves_o to_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o her_o doctrine_n but_o of_o late_a day_n when_o that_o ceremony_n of_o anoint_v have_v be_v account_v a_o sacrament_n yea_o and_o a_o great_a sacrament_n than_o baptism_n and_o think_v necessary_a to_o eternal_a salvation_n whereas_o yet_o it_o have_v no_o institution_n of_o christ_n set_v forth_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n the_o reform_a church_n have_v justly_o abrogate_a that_o custom_n according_a to_o that_o liberty_n which_o the_o church_n have_v in_o all_o ceremony_n not_o command_v by_o god_n &_o according_a to_o the_o example_n of_o the_o church_n in_o former_a age_n which_o have_v abrogate_a many_o ceremony_n use_v of_o ancient_a time_n aswell_o as_o that_o of_o anoint_v with_o oil_n they_o that_o be_v baptise_a allen_n and_o first_o because_o general_o all_o the_o foresay_a join_v together_o against_o the_o truth_n in_o this_o argument_n that_o it_o be_v dishonour_n to_o god_n and_o great_a presumption_n in_o a_o mortal_a man_n to_o claim_v the_o power_n so_o proper_a to_o god_n let_v the_o studious_a reader_n well_o consider_v that_o no_o function_n power_n ne_o dignity_n be_v it_o never_o so_o peculiar_a to_o god_n himself_o by_o naturaii_fw-la excellency_n but_o the_o same_o may_v be_v occupy_v of_o man_n secondarilie_o as_o by_o the_o way_n of_o service_n ministry_n or_o participation_n so_o that_o man_n challenge_v nor_o usurp_v it_o not_o as_o of_o himself_o or_o when_o it_o be_v not_o lawfuliie_v receive_v nor_o orderly_o give_v all_o the_o work_n that_o extraordinarilie_o and_o miraculous_o be_v wrought_v either_o by_o christ_n in_o his_o humanity_n or_o by_o the_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n word_n or_o by_o their_o garment_n or_o by_o what_o other_o instrument_n so_o ever_o they_o be_v do_v be_v the_o work_n of_o god_n no_o less_o then_o to_o remit_v sin_n yet_o all_o these_o thing_n &_o other_o the_o like_v bring_v to_o pass_v by_o man_n through_o the_o power_n of_o god_n that_o work_v by_o man_n ministry_n the_o same_o nothing_o derogate_v to_o god_n glory_n but_o infinite_o augment_v his_o honour_n even_o so_o the_o power_n of_o pardon_v man_n sin_n be_v employ_v by_o god_n the_o father_n upon_o christ_n his_o son_n &_o by_o christ_n upon_o his_o church_n &_o minister_n &_o practise_v by_o they_o not_o of_o their_o own_o might_n &_o head_n but_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o by_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v 〈◊〉_d upon_o they_o this_o authority_n i_o say_v be_v no_o derogation_n but_o a_o evident_a sign_n of_o his_o mighty_a power_n of_o salvation_n leave_v for_o the_o faithfull_n sake_n in_o the_o church_n when_o the_o person_n that_o be_v lame_a from_o his_o birth_n beg_v of_o peter_n and_o john_n somewhat_o for_o his_o relief_n at_o the_o temole_n door_n as_o his_o manner_n be_v peter_n answer_v he_o that_o gold_n and_o silver_n he_o have_v none_o to_o give_v but_o that_o which_o he_o have_v he_o will_v willing_o bestow_v which_o be_v power_n to_o heal_v he_o of_o his_o incurable_a malady_n for_o proof_n whereof_o he_o bid_v he_o arise_v and_o walk_v and_o so_o he_o do_v at_o his_o word_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o all_o that_o there_o 3._o be_v gather_v which_o be_v do_v and_o the_o people_n wonder_v thereat_o the_o apostle_n thus_o instruct_v they_o brethren_n faith_n he_o why_o wonder_v you_o at_o we_o as_o though_o we_o have_v bring_v this_o strange_a work_n to_o pass_v by_o our_o own_o strength_n and_o power_n it_o be_v the_o god_n of_o abraham_n isaac_n &_o jacob_n that_o have_v glorify_v his_o son_n jesus_n who_o you_o refuse_v and_o betray_v to_o pontius_n pilatus_n to_o be_v crucify_v in_o his_o name_n and_o faith_n this_o poor_a man_n be_v recover_v mark_n well_o that_o the_o same_o thing_n which_o peter_n say_v himself_o have_v to_o give_v quod_fw-la habeo_fw-la tibi_fw-la do_v the_o same_o yet_o he_o profess_v that_o he_o hold_v not_o as_o of_o his_o own_o right_n or_o might_n but_o as_o of_o christ_n jesus_n in_o who_o name_n he_o will_v the_o lame_a to_o walk_v even_o so_o the_o the_o power_n of_o pardon_v sinner_n be_v true_o and_o proper_o in_o the_o priest_n as_o the_o power_n of_o work_a miracle_n be_v proper_o in_o peter_n hand_n neither_o the_o one_o noryet_n the_o other_o hold_v as_o of_o their_o own_o might_n and_o power_n but_o both_o practise_v for_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n of_o nazareth_n by_o their_o appoint_a ministry_n and_o as_o true_o as_o peter_n may_v say_v to_o the_o feeble_a in_o body_n that_o which_o i_o have_v i_o give_v thou_o rise_v and_o walk_v in_o the_o name_n of_o ieso_n of_o nazareth_n so_o sure_o may_v the_o priest_n say_v to_o the_o sick_a in_o sovie_n that_o which_o i_o have_v i_o give_v thou_o in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n thy_o ennes_n my_o son_n be_v forgive_v thou_o no_o less_o be_v the_o one_o the_o peculiar_a work_n of_o god_n than_o the_o other_o no_o more_o do_v one_o dishonour_n god_n than_o the_o other_o fulke_v nothing_o that_o be_v proper_a or_o peculiar_a to_o god_n can_v be_v communicate_v to_o man_n but_o it_o cease_v to_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n for_o it_o be_v against_o the_o nature_n of_o property_n to_o be_v make_v common_a to_o any_o other_o subject_n then_o to_o that_o whereof_o they_o be_v proper_a adjunct_n and_o yet_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n he_o do_v exercise_n often_o time_n by_o the_o service_n or_o ministry_n of_o man_n in_o which_o they_o be_v but_o instrumental_a cause_n &_o he_o himself_o be_v the_o principal_a efficient_a otherwise_o man_n may_v not_o occupy_v or_o execute_v second_o or_o three_o or_o last_o of_o all_o by_o way_n of_o participation_n that_o which_o be_v proper_a or_o peculiar_a to_o god_n so_o that_o it_o remane_v still_o a_o undoubted_a truth_n that_o god_n only_o do_v forgive_v sin_n proper_o and_o man_n do_v not_o forgive_v sin_n proper_o but_o be_v the_o instrument_n of_o god_n to_o utter_v and_o declare_v the_o good_a pleasure_n of_o god_n in_o forgive_a sin_n to_o all_o and_o every_o one_o that_o repent_v and_o believe_v the_o gospe_n will_v your_o general_a negative_a that_o there_o be_v no_o function_n power_n nor_o dignity_n be_v it_o never_o so_o peculiar_a to_o god_n by_o natural_a excellency_n but_o it_o may_v be_v occupy_v of_o man_n second_o as_o by_o the_o way_n of_o service_n ministry_n or_o participation_n if_o it_o be_v urge_v against_o you_o will_v breed_v horrible_a absurdity_n to_o omit_v all_o other_o the_o power_n of_o create_v thing_n of_o nothing_o by_o what_o mean_n may_v man_n be_v partaker_n thereof_o occupy_v it_o or_o exercise_v it_o but_o let_v we_o consider_v your_o induction_n all_o miraculous_a work_n worught_v by_o christ_n in_o his_o humanity_n the_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n be_v no_o less_o proper_a to_o god_n than_o the_o power_n to_o remit_v sin_n yes_o very_o for_o many_o miraculous_a work_n that_o god_n do_v by_o moses_n the_o enchanter_n of_o egypt_n do_v the_o like_a by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o devil_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o although_o ail_fw-we power_n be_v derive_v from_o god_n as_o from_o the_o first_o cause_n thereof_o even_o that_o power_n which_o the_o devil_n have_v yet_o it_o be_v otherwise_o communicate_v to_o creature_n than_o the_o power_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v for_o that_o remain_v only_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n and_o be_v not_o proper_o
name_n and_o authority_n shall_v sufficient_o beat_v down_o these_o man_n boldness_n saint_n ambrose_n in_o this_o case_n be_v most_o plain_a and_o stand_v with_o the_o novatians_n 2._o as_o i_o do_v now_o with_o the_o zwinglians_n even_o in_o the_o very_a same_o argument_n in_o these_o word_n sed_fw-la aiunt_fw-la se_fw-la domino_fw-la defer_v reverentiam_fw-la cvi_fw-la soli_fw-la remittend_v orum_fw-la oriminum_fw-la potestatem_fw-la reseruent_fw-la imò_fw-la nulli_fw-la maiorem_fw-la iniuriam_fw-la faciunt_fw-la quàm_fw-la qui_fw-la eius_fw-la volunt_fw-la mandata_fw-la res_fw-la indere_fw-la commissum_fw-la munus_fw-la refindere_fw-la nam_fw-la cùm_fw-la ipse_fw-la in_o euangelis_n svo_fw-la dixerit_fw-la dominus_fw-la jesus_n accipite_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la quorum_fw-la remiseritis_fw-la peccata_fw-la etc._n etc._n quis_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la qui_fw-la magis_fw-la honorat_fw-la utrum_fw-la qui_fw-la mandat_fw-la be_v attemperat_fw-la a_o qui_fw-la resistit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la in_o utroque_fw-la seruat_fw-la obedientiam_fw-la ut_fw-la peccatism_n &_o alliget_fw-la &_o laxat_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v these_o novatians_n say_v that_o they_o deny_v penance_n or_o power_n to_o remit_v sin_n in_o earth_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o maintenance_n of_o such_o honour_n as_o be_v due_a to_o god_n to_o who_o only_o they_o will_v reserve_v the_o pardon_v of_o man_n sin_n but_o in_o deed_n none_o do_v so_o much_o injury_n to_o god_n glory_n as_o those_o which_o break_v his_o commandment_n and_o make_v a_o division_n of_o that_o charge_n and_o commission_n which_o he_o give_v for_o see_v our_o lord_n jesus_n by_o his_o own_o mouth_n speak_v these_o word_n receive_v you_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o sin_n you_o do_v forgive_v they_o be_v forgive_v and_o who_o sin_n you_o hold_v they_o beholden_a who_o in_o this_o case_n more_o honour_v god_n he_o that_o obei_v his_o commandment_n or_o he_o that_o resist_v the_o same_o the_o church_n obei_v in_o both_o as_o well_o in_o bind_v as_o in_o lose_v thus_o there_o and_o a_o little_a after_o look_v to_o who_o this_o charge_n be_v give_v and_o that_o person_n may_v lawful_o and_o with_o god_n good_a leave_n use_v the_o same_o au_o l_o therefore_o the_o church_n may_v lawful_o both_o bind_v and_o loose_v heresy_n and_o her_o attendant_n can_v right_o do_v neither_o this_o right_n be_v only_o commit_v to_o priest_n and_o therefore_o the_o church_n right_o challenge_v that_o authority_n because_o she_o have_v lawful_a priest_n and_o so_o heresy_n can_v do_v because_o she_o have_v not_o the_o priest_n of_o god_n in_o her_o curse_a congregation_n thus_o say_v saint_n ambrose_n for_o the_o answer_n of_o the_o novatians_n in_o his_o day_n and_o so_o say_v i_o now_o in_o the_o church_n behalf_n against_o the_o like_a affect_a enemy_n of_o christ_n honour_n which_o while_o they_o in_o face_n of_o scripture_n and_o god_n word_n will_v seem_v to_o defend_v they_o be_v become_v swear_v adversary_n of_o his_o honour_n and_o open_a contemner_n of_o his_o commandment_n and_o holy_a ordinance_n saint_n ambrose_n here_o take_v it_o for_o a_o ground_n that_o it_o be_v god_n ordinance_n that_o priest_n shall_v remit_v sin_n he_o be_v bold_a to_o call_v the_o contrary_a doctrine_n heresy_n he_o make_v a_o principle_n of_o this_o that_o it_o never_o dishonour_v god_n that_o man_n shall_v do_v that_o which_o god_n give_v he_o either_o commandment_n or_o commission_n to_o do_v in_o his_o behalf_n he_o take_v it_o for_o a_o know_a truth_n that_o as_o the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v true_a and_o lawful_a priest_n so_o she_o may_v by_o they_o upon_o christ_n warrant_n bath_n loose_a and_o bind_v and_o contrariwise_o that_o heresy_n may_v well_o enough_o give_v over_o that_o right_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n because_o she_o have_v light_o not_o lawful_a priest_n by_o who_o she_o may_v practice_v the_o same_o fulke_v first_o you_o make_v a_o vain_a exclamation_n or_o outcry_n as_o though_o heresy_n have_v spoil_v the_o church_n of_o her_o treasure_n under_o pretence_n of_o god_n glory_n but_o such_o rhetorical_a vamty_n all_o wise_a man_n will_v deride_v the_o church_n be_v not_o spoil_v of_o her_o treasure_n when_o neither_o christ_n nor_o his_o grace_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o when_o christ_n her_o only_a treasure_n be_v spoil_v of_o his_o glory_n of_o sole_a redemption_n and_o fatisfaction_n for_o our_o sin_n or_o of_o any_o other_o part_n of_o the_o office_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o mediator_n therefore_o it_o be_v her_o great_a honour_n that_o christ_n may_v have_v his_o true_a honour_n in_o who_o &_o with_o who_o she_o have_v all_o thing_n not_o to_o the_o glory_n of_o flesh_n &_o blood_n but_o to_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n to_o who_o all_o glory_n of_o right_n belong_v what_o saint_n ambrose_n do_v write_v against_o the_o novatians_n pertain_v not_o to_o we_o who_o deny_v neither_o the_o power_n of_o remit_v nor_o of_o retain_v of_o sin_n but_o grant_v both_o but_o that_o saint_n ambrose_n do_v not_o mean_a of_o such_o a_o power_n as_o the_o papist_n do_v claim_v i_o have_v show_v before_o out_o of_o his_o own_o word_n in_o the_o same_o place_n where_o he_o say_v that_o our_o lord_n have_v choose_v such_o disciple_n as_o shall_v be_v interpreter_n of_o their_o lord_n will_n this_o power_n be_v grant_v to_o all_o true_a minister_n of_o the_o church_n that_o they_o be_v the_o legate_n or_o embassador_n of_o god_n to_o declare_v his_o will_n &_o pleasure_n unto_o man_n aswell_o for_o remit_v as_o for_o retain_v of_o sin_n and_o therefore_o novatus_fw-la or_o novatianus_n do_v very_o absurdlie_o by_o saint_n ambrose_n his_o judgement_n that_o do_v arrogate_v unto_o himself_o power_n to_o retain_v sin_n while_o he_o pronounce_v that_o they_o which_o fall_v into_o idolatry_n after_o baptism_n may_v not_o be_v receive_v into_o the_o church_n upon_o any_o trial_n of_o their_o repentance_n and_o will_v not_o yield_v that_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o same_o authority_n may_v pronounce_v that_o they_o which_o be_v true_o penitent_a of_o their_o former_a wicked_a behaviour_n be_v forgive_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n which_o be_v to_o remit_v their_o sin_n upon_o earth_n with_o faith_n in_o god_n promise_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v forgive_v in_o heaven_n thus_o the_o answer_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n unto_o the_o novatians_n do_v nothing_o in_o the_o world_n make_v against_o we_o which_o deny_v no_o power_n that_o christ_n have_v grant_v to_o his_o church_n under_o colour_n of_o maintenance_n of_o god_n honour_n allen_n and_o sure_o it_o be_v a_o maruclous_a force_n of_o truth_n or_o rather_o the_o might_n of_o god_n providence_n that_o drive_v heretic_n to_o disdain_n destroy_v and_o dissanull_v the_o grace_n and_o manifold_a gift_n of_o christ_n church_n that_o impugn_v they_o where_o the_o very_a right_n of_o such_o holy_a act_n do_v lie_v they_o may_v plainlte_o confess_v and_o to_o their_o shame_n acknowledge_v that_o they_o have_v none_o such_o themselves_n nor_o can_v by_o god_n warrant_v challenge_v any_o such_o gift_n which_o with_o all_o their_o might_n they_o will_v whole_o if_o they_o can_v together_o with_o god_n spirit_n and_o church_n extinguish_v alas_o into_o what_o misery_n have_v this_o forfaken_a flock_n willfullie_o cast_v themselves_o and_o their_o adherentes_fw-la which_o can_v forsake_v god_n house_n ubi_fw-la mandavit_fw-la dominus_fw-la benedictionem_fw-la upon_o which_o god_n have_v bestow_v his_o blessing_n &_o abide_v there_o where_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n there_o be_v no_o priesthood_n no_o penance_n no_o host_n no_o sacrifice_n no_o remission_n where_o they_o can_v let_v of_o sin_n no_o grace_n in_o sacrament_n nor_o no_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n all_o other_o heresy_n light_o by_o force_n of_o the_o father_n doctrine_n and_o judgement_n lose_v either_o their_o priesthood_n because_o they_o have_v no_o way_n out_o of_o the_o church_n to_o make_v priest_n as_o saint_n hierome_n write_v of_o hilary_n the_o deacon_n or_o else_o the_o use_n and_o function_n of_o luciferianos_fw-la priesthood_n by_o reason_n the_o work_n of_o god_n can_v be_v orderly_o nor_o benefi_n iallie_o use_v out_o of_o the_o house_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o they_o ever_o claim_v to_o themselves_o not_o only_o the_o order_n but_o for_o most_o part_n all_o other_o function_n that_o by_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n be_v annex_v to_o that_o order_n but_o we_o wherein_o they_o pass_v all_o their_o forefather_n in_o a_o manner_n willing_o give_v over_o the_o whole_a profession_n free_o and_o without_o compulsion_n deny_v themselves_o with_o novatus_fw-la to_o be_v priest_n deny_v to_o sacrifice_v deny_v to_o enjoin_v penance_n deny_v to_o give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n either_o by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o by_o chrism_n or_o by_o any_o other_o solemn_a right_n of_o god_n church_n to_o be_v short_a take_v nothing_o from_o these_o fellow_n that_o belong_v
christ_n own_o person_n which_o prove_v and_o judge_v of_o man_n self_n to_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o diligent_a dif_a cussing_z of_o our_o conscience_n sin_n and_o misdeed_n by_o contrition_n and_o confession_n of_o they_o to_o our_o ghostly_a father_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n do_v most_o plain_o prove_v which_o never_o suffer_v any_o grievous_a sinner_n to_o communicate_v before_o he_o have_v call_v himself_o to_o a_o reckon_n of_o his_o sin_n before_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o so_o judge_v himself_o that_o he_o receive_v not_o to_o his_o damnation_n that_o which_o to_o every_o worthy_a person_n be_v his_o life_n and_o salvation_n whereof_o s._n augustine_n or_o the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr ecclesiasticis_fw-la 53._o dogmatibus_fw-la set_v forth_o with_o his_o name_n give_v we_o good_a notice_n for_o his_o time_n quem_fw-la mortalia_fw-la crimina_fw-la post_fw-la baptismum_fw-la commissa_fw-la premunt_fw-la horror_n priùs_fw-la publica_fw-la poenitentia_fw-la satisfacere_fw-la &_o ita_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la iudicio_fw-la reconciliatum_fw-la communioni_fw-la sociari_fw-la si_fw-la vult_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la iudicium_fw-la &_o condemnationem_fw-la svi_fw-la eucharistiam_fw-la percipere_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o secreta_fw-la satisfactione_n solui_fw-la mortalia_fw-la crimina_fw-la non_fw-la negamus_fw-la i_o exhort_v every_o man_n say_v this_o holy_a doctor_n that_o be_v burden_v after_o his_o baptism_n with_o mortal_a sin_n to_o satisfy_v for_o the_o same_o by_o public_a penance_n and_o to_o be_v reconcile_v by_o the_o priest_n judgement_n &_o to_o be_v restore_v to_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n if_o he_o mean_v to_o receive_v the_o holy_a sacrament_n not_o to_o his_o judgement_n and_o condemnation_n and_o i_o deny_v not_o in_o this_o case_n but_o deadly_a sin_n may_v be_v remit_v by_o secret_a satisfaction_n thus_o he_o by_o who_o word_n you_o see_v in_o what_o a_o damnahle_fw-mi state_n man_n now_o of_o day_n stand_v see_v that_o whosoever_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n before_o he_o be_v reconcile_v by_o a_o priest_n sentence_n and_o assoil_v of_o his_o sin_n he_o do_v receive_v it_o to_o his_o everlasting_a damnation_n unto_o who_o judgement_n i_o join_v saint_n cyprian_n in_o this_o same_o matter_n complainig_v very_o earnest_o upon_o certain_a conuersy_n in_o his_o day_n that_o will_v adventure_v upon_o lapsis_fw-la christ_n body_n and_o blood_n ante_fw-la exomologesim_fw-la factam_fw-la criminis_fw-la ante_fw-la purgatam_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la sacrificio_fw-la &_o manu_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la before_o their_o sin_n be_v confess_v and_o their_o conscience_n purge_v by_o sacrifice_n and_o the_o priest_n hand_n all_o these_o thing_n may_v be_v at_o large_a declare_v and_o confirm_v far_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o mostauncient_a father_n but_o because_o i_o have_v be_v very_o long_o and_o enough_o already_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v say_v for_o such_o as_o by_o reason_n will_v be_v satisfy_v &_o a_o great_a deal_n more_o than_o any_o protestant_n will_v answer_v unto_o and_o also_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o give_v the_o priest_n so_o plain_a power_n of_o bind_v and_o retain_v as_o well_o as_o of_o remit_v and_o lose_v will_v do_v more_o with_o these_o that_o have_v charge_v themselves_o with_o the_o belief_n of_o nothing_o that_o be_v not_o in_o express_a writing_n of_o god_n word_n than_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o all_o age_n and_o the_o most_o notable_a person_n in_o the_o same_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o humour_n therefore_o i_o will_v not_o say_v much_o more_o for_o this_o point_n than_o i_o have_v say_v only_o my_o meaning_n now_o be_v for_o the_o catholic_n comfort_n to_o repeat_v a_o few_o such_o evident_a sentence_n out_o of_o most_o authentic_a author_n by_o who_o we_o take_v a_o 〈◊〉_d not_o only_o of_o their_o meaning_n which_o be_v much_o for_o the_o matter_n but_o especial_o of_o the_o church_n practise_v in_o all_o age_n and_o most_o country_n christen_v since_o the_o apostle_n time_n which_o i_o account_v the_o most_o sure_a way_n to_o touch_v &_o try_v truth_n by_o that_o by_o the_o example_n of_o all_o our_o forefather_n every_o man_n may_v willing_o learn_v to_o submit_v himself_o to_o the_o sentence_n of_o such_o as_o god_n have_v make_v the_o judge_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o sin_n fulke_v if_o saint_n paul_n have_v mean_v popish_a shrift_n he_o can_v and_o will_v have_v say_v submit_v yourselves_o to_o the_o examination_n &_o judgement_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o not_o as_o he_o have_v say_v let_v a_o man_n try_v himself_o &_o judge_n yourselves_o brèthren_n if_o auricular_a confession_n be_v necessary_a under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n for_o every_o one_o that_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n immediate_o before_o it_o many_o thousand_o of_o your_o priest_n which_o say_v mass_n every_o day_n without_o shrive_v themselves_o be_v in_o a_o damnable_a case_n i_o or_o there_o pass_v no_o day_n of_o man_n life_n without_o some_o deadelie_a sin_n if_o not_o in_o deed_n not_o word_n yet_o at_o the_o least_o in_o thought_n but_o that_o you_o popish_a hypocrite_n by_o your_o distinction_n of_o venial_a sin_n flatter_v yourselves_o to_o be_v clear_a when_o you_o be_v most_o foul_a and_o filthy_a but_o the_o perpetual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n you_o say_v proove_v the_o necessity_n of_o auricular_a confession_n whereof_o you_o take_v witness_v the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr ecclesiasticis_fw-la dogmatibus_fw-la for_o his_o time_n which_o you_o do_v honest_o not_o to_o father_n upon_o saint_n augustine_n be_v a_o man_n of_o much_o late_a time_n less_o learning_n and_o more_o corruption_n of_o doctrine_n but_o you_o do_v fraudulent_o cut_v of_o his_o say_n in_o the_o waste_n because_o that_o which_o follow_v declare_v plain_o that_o either_o he_o mean_v not_o of_o mortal_a sin_n as_o the_o popish_a church_n now_o do_v hold_v or_o else_o his_o opinion_n for_o secret_a satisfaction_n be_v far_o differ_v from_o that_o you_o will_v have_v man_n ween_v that_o he_o mean_v namely_o such_o as_o you_o use_v to_o enjoin_v in_o your_o confession_n five_o lady_n psalter_n five_o friday_n fast_o five_o penny_n groat_n or_o shilling_n to_o so_o many_o poor_a man_n in_o remembrance_n of_o the_o 5._o wound_n and_o such_o like_a stuff_n but_o these_o author_n word_n require_v another_o manner_n of_o satisfaction_n sed_fw-la &_o secreta_fw-la satisfactione_n solui_fw-la mortalia_fw-la crimina_fw-la non_fw-la negamus_fw-la sed_fw-la mutato_fw-la prius_fw-la secularihabitu_fw-la &_o confesso_fw-la religionis_fw-la study_v per_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la correctionem_fw-la &_o iugi_fw-la immò_fw-la perpetuo_fw-la luctu_fw-la miserante_fw-la deo_fw-la it_o a_o duntaxat_fw-la ut_fw-la contraria_fw-la pro_fw-la his_fw-la quae_fw-la poenitet_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o eucharistiam_fw-la omnibus_fw-la dominic_fw-la be_v diebus_fw-la supplex_fw-la &_o submissus_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la mortem_fw-la percipiat_fw-la poenitentia_fw-la vera_fw-la est_fw-la penitenda_fw-la non_fw-la admittere_fw-la &_o admissa_fw-la deflere_fw-la satisfactio_fw-la paenitentiae_fw-la est_fw-la causas_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la excidere_fw-la nec_fw-la eorum_fw-la suggestionibus_fw-la aditum_fw-la indulgere_fw-la but_o also_o that_o by_o secret_a satisfaction_n mortal_a crime_n may_v be_v loose_v we_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o so_o that_o the_o secular_a habit_n be_v first_o change_v and_o the_o study_n of_o religion_n confess_v by_o amendment_n of_o life_n and_o by_o continual_a yea_o perpetual_a sorrow_n god_n be_v merciful_a so_o only_o that_o he_o do_v the_o contrary_a thing_n to_o those_o for_o which_o he_o do_v penance_n and_o humble_o and_o lowly_a receive_v the_o euchariste_n every_o sunday_n to_o his_o die_a day_n it_o be_v true_a repentance_n not_o to_o commit_v thing_n to_o be_v repent_v and_o to_o bewail_v such_o as_o be_v commit_v the_o satisfaction_n of_o repentance_n be_v to_o cut_v of_o the_o cause_n of_o sin_n and_o to_o yield_v no_o entry_n unto_o their_o suggestion_n wherefore_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o in_o this_o writer_n time_n there_o be_v no_o auricular_a confession_n but_o a_o open_a confession_n and_o public_a penance_n for_o open_a and_o heinous_a offence_n and_o that_o none_o be_v admit_v to_o secret_a satisfaction_n except_o he_o change_v his_o habit_n become_v a_o monk_n &_o perform_v other_o condition_n by_o he_o require_v by_o which_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o judgement_n of_o this_o writer_n though_o corrupt_a yet_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o popish_a church_n at_o this_o day_n but_o saint_n cyprian_n be_v a_o better_a witness_n i_o trow_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o auricular_a confession_n of_o secret_a sin_n save_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o they_o that_o have_v open_o fall_v to_o idolatry_n and_o without_o open_a confession_n of_o their_o fault_n and_o public_a satisfaction_n of_o the_o church_n by_o some_o undiscreete_a pastor_n be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n describe_v they_o he_o say_v mortiferos_fw-la idolorum_fw-la cibos_fw-la adhuc_fw-la pene_fw-la ructantes_fw-la exhalantibus_fw-la etiamnum_fw-la
of_o the_o primitive_a church_n or_o to_o disproove_v beatus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la which_o deni_v the_o same_o accuse_v both_o the_o novelty_n and_o and_o the_o tyranny_n thereof_o and_o the_o danger_n that_o man_n conscience_n have_v be_v in_o through_o it_o beside_o many_o other_o know_v inconvenience_n allen_n but_o now_o if_o you_o confer_v with_o the_o father_n of_o all_o age_n and_o of_o every_o notable_a church_n touch_v this_o confession_n to_o god_n priest_n you_o may_v begin_v if_o you_o listen_v even_o at_o this_o day_n and_o drive_v up_o both_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o the_o perpetual_a practice_n thereof_o even_o to_o the_o apostle_n time_n in_o the_o late_a holy_a council_n hold_v at_o trent_n both_o the_o doctrine_n be_v confirm_v and_o declare_v 6._o with_o all_o gravity_n and_o also_o the_o adversary_n of_o that_o sacrament_n and_o the_o misconstructer_n of_o christ_n word_n of_o remission_n to_o pertain_v to_o preach_v of_o the_o gospel_n &_o not_o to_o the_o very_a act_n of_o absolution_n be_v by_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o catholic_a state_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n accurse_a &_o excommunicate_v it_o be_v at_o furence_n also_o decree_v poeniten_n in_o a_o most_o general_a assembly_n of_o both_o the_o latin_a and_o greek_a church_n that_o as_o well_o the_o whole_a sacrament_n of_o penance_n as_o that_o especial_a part_n which_o be_v call_v confession_n be_v of_o christ_n institution_n in_o the_o great_a council_n hold_v at_o lateran_n there_o be_v so_o plain_a charge_n give_v to_o every_o christian_n to_o confess_v his_o sin_n either_o to_o sexus_fw-la his_o own_o ordinary_a parochian_a or_o to_o some_o other_o priest_n that_o have_v by_o he_o or_o otherwise_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n over_o the_o penitent_a that_o protestant_n affirm_v albeit_o very_o false'y_v that_o confession_n be_v first_o institute_v in_o the_o say_a council_n and_o this_o be_v more_o than_o three_o hundred_o year_n since_o and_o four_o hundred_o year_n before_o that_o in_o a_o provincial_a council_n that_o be_v keep_v at_o 7._o vormacia_n there_o be_v a_o canon_n make_v concern_v the_o quality_n of_o the_o priest_n that_o be_v constitute_v to_o be_v confessor_n and_o penitentiaries_n where_o it_o be_v command_v that_o they_o be_v such_o qui_fw-la possunt_fw-la singulorum_fw-la causas_fw-la originem_fw-la quoque_fw-la &_o modum_fw-la culparum_fw-la sigillatim_fw-la considerare_fw-la &_o examinare_fw-la that_o can_v particular_o try_v out_o and_o examine_v the_o cause_n of_o every_o offender_n the_o manner_n and_o ground_n of_o their_o fault_n fulke_v we_o be_v so_o well_o acquaint_v with_o your_o often_o brag_n of_o father_n and_o counsel_n that_o we_o never_o start_v for_o they_o see_v we_o know_v you_o have_v nothing_o but_o the_o dross_n of_o the_o latter_a time_n to_o cast_v at_o us._n for_o the_o council_n of_o trentes_n decree_n we_o esteem_v it_o as_o it_o be_v worthy_a be_v make_v by_o a_o few_o buckram_n bishop_n of_o italy_n and_o some_o other_o epicurian_a prelate_n of_o other_o country_n to_o patch_v up_o rather_o than_o to_o repair_v the_o ruin_n and_o decay_v of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o antichrist_n in_o the_o late_a council_n of_o florence_n i_o remember_v nothing_o decree_v of_o this_o matter_n neither_o do_v you_o note_v where_o we_o shall_v find_v it_o in_o the_o lateran_n council_n that_o be_v keep_v little_o more_o than_o 300._o year_n since_o the_o protestant_n do_v true_o affirm_v that_o the_o necessity_n of_o auricular_a confession_n be_v first_o impose_v upon_o man_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n for_o in_o the_o council_n of_o worm_n which_o you_o say_v be_v 400_o year_n elder_a there_o be_v never_o a_o word_n of_o confession_n or_o confessor_n but_o of_o wife_n consideration_n to_o be_v have_v of_o they_o that_o do_v penance_n by_o which_o be_v mean_v open_a offender_n that_o do_v open_a penance_n neither_o be_v you_o able_a to_o prove_v the_o contrary_n paenitentibue_n say_v the_o canon_n serundum_fw-la differentiam_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o the_o penitent_n or_o such_o as_o do_v penance_n let_v penance_n be_v decree_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o priest_n according_a to_o the_o difference_n of_o their_o sin_n therefore_o in_o give_v penance_n the_o priest_n ought_v severallie_o to_o consider_v the_o causer_n of_o every_o one_o the_o beginning_n also_o &_o manner_n of_o the_o fauly_n and_o diligent_o to_o examine_v and_o manifest_o to_o know_v the_o affection_n and_o sigh_n of_o the_o offender_n also_o to_o consider_v the_o quality_n of_o the_o time_n &_o person_n of_o the_o place_n &_o age_n that_o according_a to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o place_n age_n or_o time_n or_o according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o offence_n &_o the_o groan_a of_o every_o offendor_n he_o turn_v not_o his_o eye_n from_o the_o holy_a rule_n thus_o sarre_o the_o canon_n after_o which_o follow_v the_o rule_n of_o penance_n to_o be_v appoint_v for_o diverse_a kind_n of_o offence_n as_o for_o he_o that_o have_v kill_v a_o priest_n a_o pagane_n his_o parent_n or_o brother_n or_o for_o he_o that_o have_v slay_v a_o man_n in_o his_o madness_n or_o against_o his_o will_n and_o such_o like_a whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o canon_n be_v make_v for_o penance_n to_o be_v enjoin_v to_o public_a offender_n and_o not_o to_o compel_v man_n to_o confess_v their_o secret_a sin_n allen_n which_o decree_n be_v borrow_v word_n for_o word_n almost_o out_o of_o the_o last_o canon_n of_o constantinople_n council_n call_v the_o six_o general_n 102._o which_o be_v long_o before_o all_o the_o foresaid_a synod_n their_o discourse_n be_v long_o upon_o the_o priest_n duty_n which_o shall_v sit_v on_o confession_n who_o they_o instruct_v by_o these_o word_n oportebit_fw-la qui_fw-la facultatem_fw-la absoluendi_fw-la &_o ligandi_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la receperunt_fw-la peccati_fw-la qualitatem_fw-la speculentur_fw-la &_o peccatoris_fw-la promptitudinem_fw-la ad_fw-la reversionem_fw-la ut_fw-la sic_fw-la medicamentum_fw-la admoveant_fw-la aegritudini_fw-la aptum_fw-la ne_fw-la si_fw-la de_fw-fr peccato_fw-la sine_fw-la discrimine_fw-la statuant_fw-la aberrent_fw-la à_fw-la salute_v aegrotantis_fw-la those_o that_o have_v receive_v of_o our_o lord_n power_n to_o loose_v and_o bind_v must_v try_v out_o the_o quality_n of_o every_o fault_n and_o the_o readiness_n of_o the_o offender_n to_o return_v unto_o virtue_n that_o they_o may_v provide_v a_o medicine_n meet_v to_o the_o malady_n lest_o if_o they_o shall_v without_o distinct_a knowledge_n of_o their_o sin_n give_v judgement_n they_o shall_v err_v in_o poruide_v health_n for_o the_o sick_a person_n by_o which_o council_n keep_v in_o constantinople_n you_o may_v easy_o gather_v that_o neither_o confession_n be_v ever_o omit_v by_o the_o law_n nor_o the_o common_a penitentiary_n long_o abrogate_a out_o of_o constaninople_n church_n and_o when_o i_o name_v these_o decree_n of_o so_o many_o general_a counsel_n in_o diu_fw-la rfe_n age_n i_o do_v not_o only_o call_v they_o general_o to_o witness_v for_o my_o cause_n which_o be_v enough_o see_v every_o determination_n there_o pass_v as_o by_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o christ_n own_o judgement_n of_o who_o presence_n such_o hotie_a assemblance_n be_v assure_v but_o i_o appeal_v to_o everic_a holy_a bishop_n priest_n and_o prince_n of_o the_o world_n that_o agree_v to_o the_o same_o and_o be_v there_o assemble_v every_o of_o which_o be_v of_o more_o experience_n learning_n and_o virtue_n or_o at_o the_o least_o of_o more_o humility_n than_o all_o our_o adversary_n alive_a but_o now_o if_o you_o go_v to_o try_v other_o the_o learned_a writer_n of_o all_o time_n for_o the_o practice_n of_o this_o point_n than_o our_o labour_n shall_v be_v infinite_a but_o our_o cause_n more_o strong_a and_o 〈◊〉_d adversary_n soon_o confound_v i_o need_v not_o for_o that_o practice_n name_v the_o learned_a schoolemem_fw-la of_o excellent_a capacity_n in_o deep_a mystery_n because_o they_o be_v so_o late_o and_o because_o heretic_n can_v not_o deny_v but_o they_o be_v all_o undoubted_o against_o they_o and_o every_o one_o for_o we_o thomas_n aquinas_n be_v we_o dionysius_n be_v we_o i_o mean_v the_o carthusian_n if_o any_o man_n doubt_n of_o saint_n bernard_n let_v he_o read_v the_o life_n of_o malachi_n who_o he_o praise_v sore_o bring_v into_o ure_n the_o most_o profitable_a use_n of_o confession_n jacob_n in_o the_o rude_a part_n of_o ireland_n saint_n bede_n be_v prove_v before_o not_o only_o to_o have_v allow_v confession_n to_o the_o priest_n but_o to_o have_v expound_v saint_n james_n word_n of_o confession_n for_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n and_o utter_v our_o sin_n to_o god_n minister_n and_o he_o record_v that_o in_o our_o country_n of_o england_n before_o his_o day_n confession_n be_v use_v to_o a_o priest_n whereof_o as_o also_o os_fw-la penance_n and_o satisfaction_n there_o be_v a_o example_n or_o two_o in_o the_o
none_o can_v be_v bind_v or_o absolve_v but_o of_o his_o owneiudge_v we_o think_v that_o the_o foresay_a remission_n do_v profit_v they_o only_o to_o who_o that_o they_o may_v profit_v their_o own_o judge_n have_v spiritual_o or_o special_o grant_v also_o the_o gloss_n upon_o this_o decretal_a the_o author_n whereof_o live_v after_o the_o late_a an_o council_n say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o old_a complaint_n and_o yet_o in_o his_o day_n very_o doubtful_a to_o what_o purpose_n these_o remission_n or_o pardon_n be_v profitable_a remissiones_fw-la ad_fw-la quid_fw-la valeant_fw-la vetus_fw-la est_fw-la querela_fw-la adhuc_fw-la tamen_fw-la satis_fw-la dubia_fw-la and_o rehearse_v four_o several_a opinion_n concern_v the_o validity_n of_o they_o some_o say_v they_o avail_v only_o toward_o god_n but_o not_o towards_o the_o church_n secondlie_o other_o say_v that_o they_o avail_n towards_o the_o church_n but_o not_o towards_o god_n thirdlie_o other_o say_v that_o as_o they_o be_v give_v they_o avail_n both_o towards_o god_n and_o towards_o the_o church_n and_o the_o four_o say_v that_o they_o avail_v onclie_o to_o the_o remission_n of_o that_o penance_n which_o be_v negligent_o omit_v to_o which_o the_o gloss_n add_v his_o opinson_n agree_v full_o with_o none_o of_o they_o all_o nor_o with_o the_o late_a canonist_n among_o which_o opinion_n you_o have_v patch_v up_o your_o waver_a sentence_n of_o the_o validity_n or_o invalidity_n of_o pardon_n in_o this_o chapter_n this_o diversity_n of_o opinion_n among_o the_o papist_n themselves_o argue_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o pardon_n be_v very_o raw_a and_o not_o halse_a digest_v in_o those_o day_n the_o agreeablenes_n thereof_o with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n when_o it_o shall_v be_v show_v we_o shall_v think_v better_o of_o they_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n you_o must_v bring_v better_a proof_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n for_o they_o than_o you_o do_v for_o popish_a bishop_n blessing_n out_o of_o the_o 10._o of_o saint_n matthew_n or_o else_o we_o shall_v have_v little_a cause_n to_o esteem_v they_o more_o than_o it_o allen_n true_o that_o holypeace_n which_o christ_n give_v to_o his_o apostle_n at_o his_o come_n into_o they_o at_o his_o departure_n from_o they_o and_o else_o as_o 〈◊〉_d enter_v upon_o any_o holy_a action_n signify_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o 20._o agreement_n and_o peace_n of_o man_n soul_n with_o god_n and_o do_v no_o doubt_n purge_v they_o from_o their_o daily_a infirmity_n which_o we_o call_v venial_a sin_n and_o the_o bond_n of_o all_o pain_n as_o it_o may_v be_v think_v due_a for_o the_o same_o that_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n majesty_n sin_n may_v cease_v and_o the_o party_n appear_v clean_o afore_o his_o face_n that_o have_v nospot_n of_o sin_n in_o himself_o at_o all_o as_o by_o the_o say_v peace_n yet_o give_v to_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n by_o holy_a bishopp_n ministry_n some_o like_a effect_n do_v sure_o ensue_v i_o use_v this_o term_n of_o peace_n when_o i_o speak_v of_o pardon_n not_o because_o they_o be_v preciselie_o mean_v in_o the_o action_n of_o give_v peace_n common_a to_o christ_n &_o his_o apostle_n but_o because_o i_o see_v the_o old_a father_n light_o call_v that_o peace_n which_o we_o now_o call_v pardon_v and_o perchance_o they_o do_v allude_v to_o that_o which_o christ_n will_v his_o disciple_n to_o bestow_v on_o every_o household_n for_o a_o kind_n of_o blessing_n which_o no_o doubt_n be_v some_o great_a benefit_n and_o so_o great_a that_o our_o master_n signify_v unto_o 10._o they_o that_o many_o shall_v be_v unworthy_a of_o it_o and_o that_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o shall_v redound_v to_o themselves_o which_o cause_v both_o bishop_n of_o old_a for_o saint_n augustine_n make_v mention_v thereof_o 8._o to_o give_v their_o blessing_n and_o every_o man_n humble_o to_o require_v the_o same_o on_o their_o knee_n whereby_o sure_o some_o spiritual_a grace_n be_v receive_v and_o remission_n either_o of_o venial_a trespace_n or_o pain_n due_a unto_o formmer_n sin_n give_v let_v apish_a camite_n here_o mock_v and_o mow_v at_o their_o mother_n as_o they_o customablie_o do_v while_o the_o obedient_a child_n the_o discreet_a and_o devout_a of_o god_n church_n think_v it_o a_o high_a point_n of_o wisdom_n only_o to_o consider_v the_o marvellous_a direction_n of_o our_o father_n way_n in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o discipline_n and_o awe_n of_o god_n relgion_n fulke_v that_o peace_n which_o christ_n give_v to_o his_o apostle_n be_v the_o quietness_n of_o conscience_n reconcile_v to_o god_n and_o discharge_v of_o all_o sin_n and_o the_o pain_n due_a to_o satisfy_v god_n righteousness_n for_o they_o and_o the_o same_o peace_n do_v christ_n send_v his_o apostle_n to_o offer_v preach_v and_o wish_v to_o all_o they_o that_o will_v receive_v it_o which_o if_o they_o refuse_v become_v unprofitable_a to_o they_o but_o the_o popish_a bishop_n blessing_n which_o consist_v in_o shake_v his_o finger_n and_o murmur_v some_o word_n perhaps_o not_o understand_v of_o the_o people_n who_o they_o never_o teach_v what_o the_o peace_n of_o conscience_n mean_v be_v no_o better_a than_o a_o vild_a mockery_n of_o the_o peace_n that_o christ_n give_v and_o will_v his_o apostle_n to_o offer_v where_o they_o become_v whereas_o you_o allege_v saint_n augustine_n for_o the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o bishop_n blessing_n it_o be_v a_o frivolous_a matter_n for_o he_o make_v no_o other_o mention_n but_o that_o after_o earnest_n praierhad_v be_v make_v for_o patience_n and_o constancy_n of_o faith_n in_o one_o that_o be_v the_o next_o day_n with_o danger_n of_o his_o life_n to_o be_v cut_v for_o a_o fistula_n both_o by_o the_o party_n himself_o a_o bishop_n and_o many_o other_o godly_a person_n then_o present_a that_o they_o arise_v from_o prayer_n &_o accepta_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopo_fw-la benedictione_n discessimus_fw-la and_o have_v receive_v blessing_n of_o the_o bishop_n we_o depart_v how_o can_v the_o superstitious_a blessing_n of_o popish_a bishop_n be_v resemble_v to_o this_o but_o only_o in_o the_o name_n of_o blessing_n for_o here_o be_v no_o require_v of_o it_o on_o knee_n nor_o any_o opinion_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n by_o it_o but_o only_o a_o christian_a salutation_n or_o farewell_n by_o prayer_n mention_v which_o all_o godly_a bishop_n and_o elder_n do_v in_o our_o church_n use_v even_o at_o this_o day_n special_o in_o dimission_n of_o a_o godly_a congregation_n gather_v to_o hear_v the_o preach_n to_o prayer_n or_o participation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n or_o such_o holy_a purpose_n which_o all_o christian_n do_v esteem_v as_o it_o become_v they_o without_o make_v a_o idol_n of_o the_o minister_n or_o trust_v in_o the_o ceremony_n confirm_v their_o faith_n in_o god_n by_o the_o praior_fw-la and_o blessing_n of_o his_o servant_n in_o his_o name_n in_o who_o be_v all_o their_o hope_n trust_v and_o joy_n repose_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v the_o high_a minister_n of_o god_n church_n and_o namely_o the_o pope_n as_o the_o principal_a of_o the_o rest_n may_v only_o lawful_o give_v pardon_n and_o in_o what_o sense_n the_o soul_n depat_v may_v be_v releive_v by_o the_o same_o the_o 11._o chap._n allen_n of_o the_o necessary_a disposition_n of_o they_o that_o shall_v effectual_o receive_v benefit_n by_o the_o pardon_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o the_o right_a intent_n of_o they_o that_o shall_v give_v the_o same_o we_o have_v already_o sufficient_o speak_v and_o now_o perchance_o some_o may_v think_v it_o necessary_a that_o it_o shall_v be_v open_v brief_o in_o who_o this_o authority_n of_o release_n the_o pain_n enjoin_v for_o sin_n do_v principal_o consist_v whereof_o i_o shall_v with_o better_a will_v bestow_v a_o few_o word_n because_o we_o shall_v have_v occasion_n thereby_o to_o open_v the_o common_a sense_n of_o a_o whole_a council_n both_o learned_a and_o godly_a touch_v the_o matter_n of_o pardon_n in_o the_o judgement_n whereof_o assure_o proceed_n from_o the_o holy_a ghost_n we_o may_v with_o safety_n take_v our_o rest_n of_o the_o lawful_a minister_n therefore_o of_o these_o remission_n the_o scripture_n in_o precise_a term_n prescribe_v nothing_o though_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v whereupon_o the_o matter_n stand_v be_v prove_v proper_o to_o be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o key_n namely_o of_o jurisdiction_n and_o external_a regiment_n which_o agree_v not_o to_o the_o simple_a priest_n have_v no_o further_a jurisdiction_n but_o in_o the_o secret_a court_n of_o man_n conscience_n whereupon_o as_o also_o by_o the_o usage_n of_o all_o age_n and_o by_o the_o prescription_n of_o the_o law_n it_o be_v prove_v that_o bishop_n only_o or_o such_o as_o have_v their_o authority_n for_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o office_n may_v lawful_o give_v remission_n of_o satisfaction_n appoint_v for_o sin_n remit_v neither_o be_v it_o
the_o head_n of_o the_o house_n but_o if_o he_o will_v say_v this_o other_o man_n be_v no_o friar_n than_o he_o must_v show_v what_o he_o be_v who_o be_v the_o testator_n what_o fraud_n luther_n and_o his_o prior_n use_v to_o deceive_v he_o and_o bring_v good_a proof_n thereof_o or_o else_o who_o be_v bind_v to_o believe_v he_o but_o to_o go_v forward_o other_o estate_n or_o degree_n or_o apostleship_n he_o know_v not_o that_o luther_n have_v any_o what_o then_o be_v not_o this_o sufficient_a call_n for_o he_o that_o be_v a_o doctor_n of_o the_o popish_a church_n to_o preach_v against_o the_o abuse_n and_o error_n thereof_o and_o when_o his_o doctrine_n and_o conclusion_n be_v undoubted_o agreeable_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n may_v he_o not_o justly_o affirm_v that_o they_o be_v from_o heaven_n and_o that_o he_o be_v send_v from_o heaven_n to_o teach_v the_o germane_a the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o of_o long_a time_n have_v be_v hide_v from_o they_o for_o that_o he_o be_v their_o first_o apostle_n or_o that_o before_o his_o day_n they_o never_o have_v any_o true_a religion_n or_o christian_a doctrine_n he_o never_o say_v neither_o do_v he_o make_v more_o account_n of_o himself_o then_o of_o saint_n augustine_n and_o all_o other_o father_n of_o the_o church_n although_o in_o the_o book_n quote_v by_o frarine_n he_o prefer_v that_o doctrine_n which_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n before_o the_o judgement_n of_o augustine_n and_o all_o man_n that_o ever_o be_v as_o for_o the_o familiar_a conference_n and_o talk_n with_o the_o devil_n which_o frarine_n affirm_v that_o he_o repori_v of_o himself_o and_o that_o cocleus_n and_o all_o his_o enemy_n do_v gnaw_v so_o much_o upon_o to_o prove_v that_o he_o be_v set_v on_o by_o the_o devil_n to_o gainsay_v the_o mass_n be_v nothing_o but_o a_o ridiculous_a cavil_n for_o luther_n speak_v of_o a_o spiritual_a conflict_n that_o he_o have_v with_o satan_n for_o say_v mass_n so_o long_o which_o at_o length_n he_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v blasphemous_a against_o the_o death_n of_o christ._n not_o of_o any_o bodelie_a appeerance_n of_o the_o devil_n or_o familiar_a talk_n with_o he_o as_o the_o malice_n of_o the_o papist_n do_v expound_v he_o next_o luther_n our_o orator_n will_v examine_v caluins_n vocation_n caluine_v say_v he_o be_v bear_v at_o noviodunum_n in_o picardy_n what_o of_o that_o he_o be_v banish_v from_o his_o country_n for_o his_o wicked_a behaviour_n that_o be_v false_a for_o he_o live_v in_o his_o country_n in_o good_a credit_n both_o of_o learning_n and_o honesty_n till_o the_o cruelty_n of_o the_o papist_n cause_v he_o to_o seek_v the_o liberty_n and_o profession_n of_o religion_n abroad_o which_o he_o can_v not_o have_v at_o home_n that_o he_o be_v the_o very_a unthrist_n &_o naughty_a varlet_n of_o all_o his_o companion_n when_o he_o be_v in_o his_o country_n be_v a_o impudent_a slander_n for_o at_o orleans_n caluini_fw-la he_o read_v the_o law_n lecture_n oftentimes_o in_o the_o place_n of_o petrus_n stella_n the_o public_a reader_n and_o be_v so_o well_o account_v both_o for_o his_o learning_n and_o virtue_n that_o the_o degree_n of_o doctorship_n in_o that_o faculty_n with_o full_a consent_n of_o all_o the_o teacher_n be_v offer_v he_o without_o any_o expense_n as_o one_o that_o have_v very_o well_o deserve_v of_o the_o university_n afterward_o at_o paris_n he_o set_v forth_o that_o notable_a commentary_n of_o he_o of_o seneca_n de_fw-fr clementia_n he_o be_v of_o great_a familiarity_n with_o nicolaus_n copus_n rector_n of_o the_o university_n of_o paris_n and_o in_o good_a credit_n with_o the_o queen_n of_o navarre_n sister_n unto_o king_n francis_n he_o have_v conference_n with_o jacobus_n faber_n stapulensis_n in_o aquitane_n and_o after_o he_o have_v set_v forth_o that_o worthy_a book_n of_o he_o call_v psychopanuchia_n at_o orleans_n against_o they_o which_o teach_v that_o the_o soul_n depart_v do_v sleep_n until_o the_o resurrection_n without_o sense_n of_o good_a or_o evil_n he_o come_v to_o the_o city_n of_o basill_n this_o course_n of_o his_o life_n as_o it_o be_v write_v in_o his_o story_n with_o much_o more_o to_o this_o effect_n do_v witness_n that_o he_o be_v even_o from_o his_o youth_n a_o man_n endue_v with_o singular_a modesty_n temperance_n and_o godliness_n whatsoever_o his_o adversary_n without_o all_o proof_n or_o show_v of_o truth_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o invent_v and_o brute_n against_o he_o when_o he_o be_v at_o basill_n he_o do_v not_o hide_v his_o head_n as_o the_o slanderer_n say_v but_o desire_v in_o deed_n to_o be_v private_a that_o he_o may_v better_o apply_v his_o study_n and_o especial_o the_o hebrew_n tongue_n but_o such_o be_v his_o excellency_n that_o he_o can_v not_o be_v hide_v from_o the_o principal_a learned_a man_n of_o that_o university_n and_o so_o little_o be_v he_o hide_v that_o there_o he_o first_o set_v forth_o his_o institution_n dedicate_v to_o king_n francis_n our_o declaimer_n say_v that_o from_o basile_n he_o pass_v to_o strasburg_n and_o there_o begin_v to_o show_v his_o head_n and_o preach_v to_o the_o runnagat_n but_o that_o be_v false_a for_o from_o basill_n he_o go_v into_o italy_n to_o visit_v the_o duchess_n of_o ferrara_n from_o whence_o he_o return_v into_o france_n where_o have_v set_v all_o his_o affair_n in_o order_n he_o bring_v away_o his_o only_a brother_n antoniecaluine_n intend_v to_o settle_v himself_o either_o at_o basill_n or_o at_o strasburg_n but_o all_o other_o passage_n be_v stop_v he_o be_v force_v to_o travail_v through_o savoye_n and_o come_v to_o geneva_n only_o to_o visit_v farellus_n and_o viretus_fw-la by_o who_o zealous_a &_o earnest_a labour_n popery_n be_v banish_v and_o the_o church_n there_o reform_v he_o be_v stay_v by_o the_o terrible_a obtestation_n of_o farellus_n and_o by_o the_o presbytery_n and_o magistrate_n choose_v to_o be_v a_o teacher_n and_o intepreter_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o that_o church_n but_o that_o he_o put_v out_o the_o deputy_n of_o the_o city_n expel_v the_o bishop_n and_o popish_a clergy_n reign_v there_o like_o a_o conqueror_n by_o the_o law_n of_o ireason_n and_o force_v of_o arm_n as_o frarine_n say_v it_o be_v a_o most_o impudent_a lie_n though_o a_o hundred_o lindanes_n have_v swear_v that_o it_o be_v true_a for_o the_o bishop_n with_o his_o popish_a clergy_n be_v depart_v out_o of_o the_o city_n and_o the_o religion_n reform_v by_o public_a authority_n receive_v long_a time_n before_o caluine_n first_o arrival_n thither_o of_o like_a truth_n it_o be_v that_o beza_n in_o his_o bawdy_a and_o filthy_a epigram_n as_o it_o please_v frarine_n to_o call_v they_o far_o pass_v the_o wanton_a pagan_a poete_n marshal_n and_o tibullus_n for_o in_o the_o most_o licentious_a of_o these_o epigram_n first_o condemn_v by_o beza_n himself_o there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n of_o obscenity_n although_o they_o be_v make_v in_o a_o feign_a argument_n after_o the_o imitation_n of_o those_o poet_n and_o if_o they_o have_v be_v as_o full_a of_o bawdy_a term_n and_o matter_n as_o marshal_n himself_o yet_o so_o long_o as_o beza_n continue_v in_o popery_n where_o they_o be_v free_o print_v &_o seld_o they_o be_v catholic_a enough_o what_o shall_v i_o speak_v say_v he_o of_o bernardinus_fw-la ochinus_n the_o preacher_n of_o polygamy_n very_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n why_o he_o shall_v speak_v of_o he_o see_v both_o the_o man_n and_o the_o doctrine_n be_v detest_v in_o our_o church_n and_o by_o our_o writing_n confute_v he_o name_v also_o bernard_n rotman_n and_o john_n of_o leyd_n author_n of_o the_o anabaptisticall_a sedition_n at_o monster_n as_o though_o we_o have_v any_o thing_n to_o do_v with_o they_o yes_o say_v he_o they_o conquer_v the_o field_n against_o the_o lutheran_n by_o pretence_n of_o scripture_n only_o as_o rotman_n before_o vanquish_v the_o papist_n the_o story_n be_v write_v who_o listen_v to_o read_v wherein_o may_v be_v find_v they_o use_v other_o craft_n beside_o force_n of_o arm_n than_o pretence_n of_o scripture_n only_o to_o compass_v their_o devilish_a attempt_n and_o what_o if_o they_o have_v use_v the_o pretence_n of_o scripture_n only_o as_o the_o devil_n do_v in_o tempt_v our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v the_o scripture_n only_o of_o less_o force_n to_o confute_v their_o false_a pretence_n then_o when_o it_o be_v use_v by_o our_o saviour_n christ_n against_o the_o devil_n he_o tell_v we_o of_o hosiander_n reproove_v of_o we_o for_o heresy_n &_o of_o carolostadius_fw-la who_o through_o folly_n &_o madness_n become_v a_o ploughnian_n the_o name_n also_o of_o peter_n martyr_n illiricus_fw-la musculus_fw-la farellus_n viretus_fw-la and_o bucer_n a_o against_o who_o he_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v beside_o i_o know_v not_o what_o marote_n &_o malote_n and_o that_o these_o shall_v usurp_v