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A91468 Goliahs head cut off with his own sword; in a combat betwixt little David, the young stripling, who stands in the power and strength of his God, and great Goliah the proud boaster, who stands in his own strength, glorifying in the arm of flesh, and contemning and despising little David, because of his youth. In a reply to a book, set forth by an un-named author, under pretence of an answer to thirty six queries, propounded by James Parnell, whom he in scorn calls, the young Quaker. And also an answer to severall counter-queries, propounded by the same unnamed authour, whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton, a teacher of the world, at Abbey Rippon, in Huntingtonshire, ... and also he that takes his part, who writes himself W.P. who knowes not the power of God, and therefore glories in the length of time, and the multitude of years. ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the armies of the aliens, who muster up themselves against the Lord, and his authority: by a friend to the common-wealth of Israel, who is known to the world, by the name James Parnel. Who is a sufferer in outward bonds, for the testimony of the everlasting truth, in Colchester Castle. 1655. Parnell, James, 1637?-1656. 1655 (1655) Wing P531; Thomason E861_1; ESTC R203310 65,568 94

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confusion of face and thus thy heart is adulterated from God into the earth 1 John 2.15 and the love of God abides not in thee who art in love with the world and thus thou loves thy Neighbour as thy selfe when for selfes-sake thou wouldst destroy him both body and soul and thus I need no other weapon to cut off thy head then what thou thy selfe bringest What is the difference betwixt the Jew outwardly 35. Qu. and the Jew inwardly and how shall we know the one from the other And in thy Answer thou sayst the Jew outwardly desires to make a faire shew in the flesh P. Ans or externall man with his outward Circumcision or Reformation Gal. 6.12.13 in voluntary worship and not sparing the body Col. 2.23 he observes the lesser Commands leaves the greater undone Mat. 23.23 in one poynt he goes beyond as thou sayst he payes Tithes exactly he makes clean the outside of the Cup and Platter Reply and makes all foul within Mat. 23.15 26. c. and so here is enough to manifest that thou art the man for here thou hast plainly read thy selfe and out of thy own mouth shalt thou be judged without contending or reviling as thou accusest us for thou hast been striving all along hitherto to set out thy selfe and make a faire out-side like a Reformation though the hypocrisie of thy heart thou couldest not thereby hide from the light and who are more strict in voluntary worship but you can pamper your bodies which showes your zeal is not so hot and instead of observing the lesser Commands and leaving the greater undone you leave all undone that will not stand for Selfe and preach up and uphold these things for Commands for which you have no Scripture and so preach for Doctrine the Commandements of man Mat. 15.9 as the outward Jew did but if one aske you for your proof for these things thou sayst it sufficeth you that there is no Command to the contrary yea for thy selfe covetous ends thou art not ashamed to fetch up old Commands that were fulfilled and so ended for a cover for thy deceipt as here also thou wouldst seem to do in accusing us for not paying Tithes exactly as the Pharisee did which I know is the great grief of thee and thy Brethren because we put not into your mouths Mich. 3.5 and therefore ye even prepare Warre against us but when the Pharisee said he payd Tithes they was then due for the Priesthood to which Tithes belonged was not yet fulfilled and therefore not changed and therefore it was his duty so to do but you Priests have so blinded the Pharisees and professors of these times that they are so exact in paying you Tithes and putting into your mouthes because you daub them up Ezek. 22.28 crying peace to them though they have no Command from God for it and you take it as exactly but you have but few such that you dare trust without a Law for as thou sayst the greatest part of them are earthly minded like their Teachers and how hast thou been cleansing thy outside of the Cup as if thou wast unblameable in this outward righteousness and so holy in thine own eyes that in words thou professest perfection and as if thou knewest the highest estate of Christianity and wast in the pure Religion without spots guided by Gods spirit usualy speaking by the motion of the Holy Ghost but even condemned thy Brethren and wouldst not answer for them but said thou was none of these Hirelings nor greedy Doggs c. but yet could not keep thy tongue for uttering forth the foulness of thy heart which hath overwhelmed thee all along and out of thy own mouth hast been proved a lyer and thus thou art plainly dealt with and judged out of thy own mouth and the Scriptures aforesaid which thou hast quoted shall stand and witness against thee But the Jew inwardly thou sayst trusts in the Lord Christ P. Ans and hath no confidence in the flesh but this thou dost not for then thou would'st trust him for thy maintenance and not stand in need of the arm of flesh upon which thou relyest neither dost thou first make clean the inside of the Cup that the outside may be fair also as thou sayst the inward Jew doth but though thou hast been much labouring with feigned words of thy own wisdom and selfe-justification to deck and adorn the outside painting it with Scripture-words and expressions yet thy inside is so foul that it defiles the outside also so that it makes thee odious to all but the blinde and manifests thy heart to be yet uncircumcised from sin and a stranger to the inward Crosse by which thou art not crucified to the world nor the world to thee for then it would not suffice thee to take the tenth part of the increase of the labour of the Labourers by the will of man without any Command from God as thou dost living at ease like a Droan upon the same and therefore thy heart is far off uprightness all which the Jew inwardly thou sayst doth witness and thus in a word thou seest there is as much difference betwixt the one and the other as betwixt Saul and Paul a persecutor and an executor of Christs Doctrine and way and thus in a word thou hast marked out thy selfe and art found out of the way and Doctrine of Christ persecuting despising and gain saying those that abide in it and thus by thy fruits art thou known as thou sayst the one may be known from the other And thus proud Goliah thy head is cut off with thy own sword Whether they that profess themselves the Ministers of Christ Que. 36. and cannot give account of their Ministry and faith but acts contrary to the Scripture the Doctrine and practise of the Ministers of Christ and teacheth people so be not such as abides not in the Doctrine of Christ but brings another Doctrine and so are the Witches Magicians and deceivers Antichrists and false Teachers who are not to be received but denyed And in thy Answer thou confessest P. Ans that they which are truly such in Doctrine and life as this Query describes may be truly termed spirituall Witches and Magicians and must be rejected as false Teachers and Antichrists Here thou hast passed the sentence unto thy own condemnation Reply for thou art the man as sufficiently is proved both out of thy own mouth and the Scriptures which thou thy selfe hast quoted as aforesaid and so henceforward let all people take notice that thou Thomas Draton of King Rippon in Huntingtonshire art a spirituall Witch and Magician and they are to reject thee as a false Teacher and an Antichrist as here out of thy own mouth is plainly proved and this him thou callest James Parnell doth testifie and deny thee with thy Sorcery Ribbonds Stones Waters Glasses Powders Charms and other like Enchantments
or the Church in their dayes who were men that coveted no mans Silver nor Gold nor apparrell but had forsaked all for the Gospels sake and many of the Church suffered the spoiling of their goods willingly by your fore-Fathers the cheife Priests and Scribes and Pharises who was their persecutors as you are now of them who the Gospel do own Act. 20.33 Heb. 10.34 and your professors also who as thou saist doth not rightly value spirituall things such as are holden forth by the true Ministers and Messengers of God neither can because by such blind guides as thou art they are kept in blindnesse and darknesse least their eies should be opened and they come to see you and decline from you who was never tied to you by any command of God and therefore you are glad to make use of a law of man contrary to the practise of Christ and his Apostles and as for the expresse provision which the Lord made for his Ministers and Messengers in the new Testament I reply When Christ gave them their Commission he said also in whatsoever house they entered they was to eate such as was set before them for saith he the workman is worthy of his meate and this is all the expresse provision that thou canst find allotted to them in the new Testament and this was without any law of man too for there was no need of any for if they did not willingly receive them they was not to eate with them but to shake of the dust of their feete against them and that was all the law they was to take against such which was earthly minded and regardlesse of them but this will not serve you because your selves are earthly minded and therefore will have it of every one whether they receive you yea or nay or else you have a law of man to take treble damage and instead of eating such as they will set before you you will have the tenth part of what they have by compulsion you are such greedy devouring Woolvs and what was before allotted to the Priests in the old Testament is before sufficiently proved to be nothing concerning you who professe your selves Ministers of the New Testament and as for those Scriptures which thou quotes in 2 Chron. 31.5 6. c are also as nothing to my Query but are before answered in my last reply but yet these shall stand to witnesse against thee to be a liar for let any who reades these verses see if there the Isralites did shew any earthly mindednesse or stood in need of a law to compel them after they knew the Kings mind as thou accusest them and thus thou canst find nothing either in the Old or New Testament that will cover thy deceipt but altogether witnesse against thee and therefore againe thou flees into thy old shelter which is the will of man by which thou art set up and upheld therefore a false Prophet and a deceiver who abides not in the doctrine of Christ and it is no Pious nor Just act for them as I said before to take away the fruits of their subjects labours by a compulsive law to give unto such Earth-wormes as thee who cares not how you get it so you get it as thy own mouth confessest for thou saist it is a competent though not a liberall maintenance and yet thou canst take it and plead for it too yea and of worldly minded people which is altogether contrary to the Apostles practise and so thou fullfills the wordes which before I have spoken of thee and whosoever denies you of Tithes do not unjustly detaine them as thou saist they do being you have no right to them by any law or command from God or example in the Scripture as before is proved but only claimes a Title by the unjust supremacy of the Pope by which your fore-Fathers the persecuting Bishops was upheld and therefore we called Quakers do teach people them you to deny which is not contrary to the practice of Christ or his Apostles as thou accusest us for saith Christ Beware of false-Prophets that appeare in sheeps clothing Mat. 7.15.16 but inwardly ravening Woolves by their fruits they are knowne and by which sufficiently you are here marked our and the Apostles bids from such turne away as in 2 Tim. 3.5 and againe the Apostle John forbids to receive such as abides not in the doctrine of Christ or to bid them God speed 2 Joh. 9.10 and here both Christ and his Apostles sufficiently taught people to deny you and here thou art proved a lier who thus falsely accusest us called Quakers in this to act contrary to the practice of Christ or his Apostles and so here thou and the rest of the professed Ministers of this Nation are sufficiently manifest what you are so that all men may see your folly and deceipt but those who are blind and love to have it so and so the Scripture is fulfilled upon you Jer. 5.30.31 Whether ever the Ministers of the Gospel tooke any necessaries of the world 12 Que. as thou and such as thou doth all your Tithes and maintenance yea or nay And in thy Answer thou saist yea they have P. Ans which to prove thou quotes Ast. 28.1.9 where thou saist Paul tooke necessaries of the Barbarians yet this not serving thy turne thou runs to old Histories which thou calls Ecclesiasticall records and saith they for 1500 yeares doe testify the same but yet doubting of this thou saist as thou said before it sufficeth you that there is no law nor command of God to the contrary nor are examples thou saist needfull for every thing as to prove that Christ called any shooemaker or cobler to be a Prophet Reply But here againe thou hast marked out thy selfe to be a false Prophet who runs and the Lord never sent thee and therefore thou teachest for Doctrine the traditions of men for the which thou hast no Scripture therefore runs to old stories to which I am not to give any credit be they never so old being they are not according to Scripture and therefore not Ecclesiasticall for the oldnesse of the thing doth not make it truth though you haue long thereby deceived the ignorant And as for that Scripture which thou quotest in Acts 28.1.9 then Paul was a Prisoner and he and the Souldiers that kept him and the rest of the people was driven there by storm upon the Sea so that in that cause the Barbarians took pitty of them and received them but there was many besides Paul and the Centurion to whom Paul was committed was to take care of him and also that which the Barbarians did was freely and that which nature bound them to being they was in that strait which was done to many besides Paul who were heathen so that this doth not at all stand for thee who art in thy own Country and yet takes all thy Tithes and maintenance of the World by compulsion neither will
will deny the profitableness of your teaching for like people like Priest Hos 4.9 2 Tim. 4.3 as the Prophet said and you are the heaps of teachers that deceive the world and draw itching eares after you who cannot endure sound Doctrine with your fained entising words of mens wisdom but the Teacher of the true Church is but one which is its head even Christ who speaks with Power and Authority and not as you Scribes whose teaching is a profitable teaching as is much witnessed in these latter dayes Mat. 7.29 to your great shame and grief who have been the professed Teachers of the Church of England this many years neither doth any of these Scritpures prove that ever Christ or his Apostles took a Text of Scripture and by humane art and study did raise Uses Points Trialls and Motives as you do which is a commendable teaching 1 Cor. 1.18 1 Cor. 2.4 by the wise ones of the world who know not the wisdom of God but to them the preaching of the Crosse is foolishness as was accounted amongst the Greeks because the Apostle came not with entising words of mens wisdom as you do to please men but in plainness of speech spoke the word of the Lord faithfully and also said If he yet sought to please men he should not be the Servant of Christ Gal. 1.10 but this is all your care whose trust is in man and not in Christ and in all those Scriptures when Christ or his Apostles spoke of a Text of Scripture out of the old Testament it was to shew the fulfilling thereof or to witness to what they had said but you will take these Scriptures for to give your carnall meanings and interpretations of them and so from them speak a divination of your own brain for gain and lucre and this is the use you make of these points as thou calles them which the Scriptures before mentioned will not at all maintain and yet thou canst impudently quote this Scripture in Mat. 6.25.34 which forbids taking thought what to eat what to drink and wherewithall to be cloathed when it is so publickly known that it is your greatest care and that which thou hast been here much labouring to maintain all along to prove it lawful for thee to take nigh 200. or 300. pounds by the year of the world yea and for a Law to compell them if they refuse to give it and yet thou art not ashamed to say that thou dost not go in the way of Balaam for gifts and rewards and the chiefest Scripture which thou hast here quoted will witness against thee as 2 Tim. 3.16 17. which saith the Scripture was given by inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine for reproof for correction and instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfected throughly furnished unto every good work but thou hates to be reproved and calles them foul-mouthed currs and the like that do reprove thee and thou teachest for Doctrine the traditions of men as to call a house of Lime and Stone a Church and the like as is before proved And how have you by all your Doctrines reproof correction and instruction this many years perfected any when as the professors therein are earthly minded as thou sayst P. Ans and you that are therefore Teachers the most of all and most of you denies perfection in this life and though thou with thy tongue profess it yet in life denies it which is worst of all and so I take thee and though thou hast been so pleading for thy way yet thou sayst you would change it for a better if any can shew it you and make your hearers beleive that it would be more advantages for them but thou saist this trade of interpreting the Scripture is an old and a good trade which to prove thou quotes Iob. 33.23 Psal 10.2 3. Pro. 1.6 Act. 8.3 Here thou blind guide Reply thy nakednesse is open to the world and thy hearers may consider it who have looked upon thee as their Teacher this many yeares and yet thou thy selfe still to learne which is the best way when as there is but one true way then thou who art ignorant of this true way must needs be in a false way then how hast thou deluded thy hearets this many yeares Jer. 32.39 and also belyed thy selfe in thy Booke And if the Teacher be ever learning then what must the herers of such a one be let the wise-hearted judge and I beleive and know that your hearers would soone beleive the same if the Preachers of truth might have liberty to speake when they come amongst you but if any come in that intent you are ready to set your people upon them to hale them out with force and also you have a law to cast them into Prison as many of us do witnesse at this day and therefore thou liar the convincing of your hearers of a better way is not your greatest care but rather your greatest feare least any should be drawne from you and so your trade come to faile as thou callest it but this I know is your greatest care that any body would shew you a better way to get mony by and also perswade your hearers into it or else thou thinks you are never the better and then you would leave interpreting the Scripture which now thou calles a good trade but thou Marchant of Babylon where doth any of these Scriptures which thou hast quoted prove or terme interpreting the Scripture a trade though you Marchants of Babylon make a trade of it to get lucre by and so call it a trade who think gaine is godliness but well may others accuse you for making a trade and a gaine of the Scriptures while you your selves confesse it and thus thou wrests the Scripture for thine own ends and paints thy work with Scripture for to make the ignorant believe it is grounded upon Scripture oh be ashamed to take it into thy mouth to make a trade of it which was freely spoken forth by the holy men of God as they was moved by the Holy-Ghost and thou makes the people believe it is of some private interpretation and so thou makes Marchandize of the people and so out of thy own mouth art judged to be a lier who before denied it Whether thou dost speake as thou art moved by the Holy-Ghost Que. 20 as they did who spoke forth the Scripture And in thy Answer thou sai'st that thou hast answered to this allready P. Ans that thou usually dost speake at the motion or assistance of the Holy-Ghost thou praises God for it But thou hypocrite I have also in this already proved thee a lier Reply 2 Cor. 4.4 and thy God to be the Father of lies who is the God of the blind world in which thou art a blind guide and an enemy to the Holy-Ghost where he is witnessed to rule and this James Parnel and those thou
thy ignorance of the true spirit and therefore thou and such false Prophets as thou thus smites at and persecutes us that are called Quakers because the Lord is pleased to bestow his spirit upon us whereby we are able to declare your deceipt and manifest your lying spirits who have professed your selves the Ministers of Christ yet strangers to his spirit and opposers of his truth like Jannes and Jambres who are men of corrupt mindes and Reprobates concerning the faith 2 Tim. 3.8 And to the second part of the Query thou sayst P. Ans that the wind doth blow where it listeth if it be not stopped yet are there many false windes which blow likewise from a deceiptful spirit which to prove thou quotest Eph. 4.14 that we henceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro with every winde of Doctrine and sayst Minde this James This I do minde and still sees how thou markest out thy selfe with thy deceiptfull spirit Rep. for if the winde do blowe where it listeth which thou acknowledgest then what is that in you professed Ministers which goes about to stop it with gainsaying and persecution and would limit the spirit of God unto a Text or Theme from which you with your deceitful spirits do raise uses points tryalls and motives c. whereby many poore Creatures are tossed to and fro and carried about with your airy spirits with the slight and cunning craftiness of your brains whereby you study to deceive as thou mayst read in the latter end of the verse which thou hast quoted Ephes 4.14 which here shall stand against thee and so many are the Children which are tossed to and fro by you although they have both beards and age as thou sayst yea some are 30. some 40 some 50 some 60 yea 80. and never yet come to the knowledge of the truth and thus with feigned words through covetousness you make Marchandize of the people beguiling unstable souls but think not that all you false Prophets with the beast that upholds you can stop or quench this spirit which now bloweth where it listeth for with all the slight and craftiness that you can use you shall be made to fall before it and the fruits of your labours shall be given you Whether thou wilt own immediate Revelation now Query 7. yea or nay And in thy Answer thou sayst P. Ans the Apostle teacheth you to pray for the spirit of wisdom and Revelation in the acknowledgement of God which to prove thou quotes Ephes 1.17 but sayst there are many false lights and delusions of Sathan who too often transforms himselfe as an Angel of Light 2 Cor. 11.14 which thou sayst are entertained by unwary men for the Illuminations and Revelations of Gods spirit as appears in Zedekiah aforesaid which to prove thou quotes Ezek. 13.6 2 Thes 2.11 Here again thou hast marked out thy selfe Reply and also belies the Apostle for that Scripture in Ephes 1.17 onely makes mention how the Apostle prayed for the Ephesians that believed but it doth not at all prove that the Apostle taught you that are of the world to pray for the prayers of the wicked are abhominable Prov. 15 8. and the Apostle would not teach such to pray and though in thy Answer the substance of my Query is confessed yet it doth not serve to prove that thou dost witness it in thy selfe or own it where it is possessed who would barre it from youth and limit it to time and age and so shewes thy ignorance of it and that by the false lights and delusions of Satan thou art deceived who in thee rules as an Angel of Light and so thou art one of those unwary men who takes a lying spirit for an infallible spirit as is both here and often before proved who art found in Zedekiahs steps and so art one of those false Prophets which the Prophet speaks of who saith the Lord saith when he never spoke to thee as is before proved and how long have you professed Ministers of this Nation fed the people with expectations and hopes that you would confirm what you have spoken unto them which is not yet come to passe neither likely and thus you have deceived them by your lying divinations for your dishonest gain and therefore for this cause God hath given you up to strong delusions that you should believe a lie that you all might be damned who believe not the truth now it is come unto you but still take pleasure in unrighteousness as in those Scriptures aforesaid which thou hast quoted against thy selfe and so they shall stand What is the Gospel which thou art a Minister of Qu 8. and whether thy Gospel be free and without charge And in thy Answer thou sayst to the first part P. Ans that the Gospel which thou preachest is the same which Christ and his Apostles taught which thou sayst is summarily contained in these four verses Tit. 2.11 12 13 14. wherein the Apostle speaks of the grace of God to be their Teacher to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live soberly justly and godlily in this present World c. And to the second part thou sayst the Apostles Gospel was not every way without charge which to prove thou quotes 2 Cor. 11.8 and again thou sayst Nor hath Christ or any of his Apostles imposed it upon you that the Gospel should be altogether without charge unto them which have it taught which to prove thou quotes Rom. 15.27 And again thou sayst nor is James Parnells Gospel be it right or wrong without charge If he do not take more then it is worth if duly examined it is well Thy Spirit is much against James Parnell Rep. as Zedekia's was against Michajah yet here he can prove thee to be a lier and not onely against him but of his Lord also and therefore if thou beliest the Lord how much more the servant Joh. 1.29 for Christ Jesus the Lambe of God was the Gospel which the Apostles preached which was free and not chargeable to any though he was and is a burdensom stone to them that beleive not in him yet not chargeable And therefore thou blasphemer how darest thou to open thy mouth thus against the Lord and his anointed who art still in thy ungodlinesse and worldly lustes who art pleading for the earth and art a stranger to the free grace of God and therefore these verses which thou hast set downe shall stand to witnesse against thee which thou saist containeth the Gospel which thou preachest but the Apostles Gospel could not be contained in Paper Inke for the heavens could not containe him for he ascended far above all Heavens that he might fill all things and also of thy Gospel thou makest a trade and a gaine Eph. 4.10 being many yeares at an University as thou calest it to learn to preach it all which the Apostles did not and so thou bringest another
as well as of the rich and thou quotest Mark 7.21.22 23. The Scripture which thou hast quoted Answ doth answer thy Question where pride lieth but Apparel is a dead thing and no pride in it but the vanity and wastfulness which thou confessest is committed therein figures forth the pride of the heart and where riches is this is showne therefore you Priests look at home and judge your selves though poor and rich be both in one nature before the Regeneration Eph. 2 3. Whether one of the greatest things that puffs up the hearts of men be not knowledge Qu 34. whether it be true or false and imagined only and thou quotest 1 Cor. 8.1 2. You that are carnall and fleshly Ans are puffed up with your fleshly notionall knowledge and in that yo usteal from others experiences but the true knowledge of the spirit puffs not up but judges down that which would be exalted but this unto thee is a mystery because thy knowledge hath blinded thy eye who art confused in thine Imaginations so read thy selfe in the Scripture aforesaid which thou hast quoted Whether another thing that exalts a man in pride Qu 35. and makes him despise his Brethren and perhaps those that are better then himself be not a Conceited selfe-chosen holiness seeing such a proud Saint is brought in Isay 65.5 which thing also thou sayst is verified in the Pharisee and the Publican Luke 18.15 Thou hast here answered thy selfe with these Scriptures wherein thou mayst read thy selfe Answ who thinkest thy selfe more holy then thy Brethren and would only answer for thy selfe and not for thy Brethren though thou art found in the same practices but thou blinde Pharisee he was not a Saint which was spoken of in Isay 65.5 but he was a Saint which said We are of God and the whole world lieth in wickedness 1 John 5.19 and here also thy 36. Question is answered with the Scripture which thou hast quoted 1 Tim. 3.6 who art a false Teacher doting about Questions And here thou askest whether a young man be not the pronest of all other Que. 31. to be thus seduced and puffed up and thou quotest 1 Tim. 3.6 Thy spite is much against youth but him thou shootes at Ans thou canst not hit because thou art blinde and canst not divide the word aright but thou mayst plainly have readthy selfe in that Chapter aforesaid and finde that thou art the novice who knowes not the truth but despisest the young man because of his youth which is contrary to Paul 1 Tim. 4.12 And thy next is to maintain Swearing And thy first Query of this is whether it be lawfull now Qu. 31. in the new Testament to take an Oath before lawful Authority to put an end to controversies and thou quotest Heb. 6.16 This which thou goest about now to uphold manifests thee an enemy to Christ and his Doctrine Ans who saith Swear not at all for saith he it hath been said in the old time thou shalt not forsweare thy selfe but shalt perform unto the Lord thine Oath but I say unto you Swear not at all but let your yea be yea and your nay be nay for what is more is evill now here he doth not only forbid false swearing but also all swearing Mat. 5.33.34 c. and also the Apostle James doth the same in James 5.12 both which Scriptures thou hast quoted in thy 39. Query and so here out of the Doctrine of Christ again thou art found in the evill and all you that cannot believe one another without swearing and so are more then yea and nay and what is more is evill saith Christ now read your condemnation and as for that in Heb. 6. there the Apostle was speaking by way of comparison how the Lord made a Covenant and confirmed it with an oath which is Christ Jesus the everlasting Oath who saith swear not at all and the Apostle brought a comparison from men in strife and controversie but this doth not at all maintain swearing now for strife and controversie is out of the Doctrine of Christ and such runs into the swearing and into the evill amongst whom thou art found upholding the evill and opposing Christs Doctrine and so art found in the condemnation of the Devil James 5.12 this was not the Saints practise for in the new Covenant neither strife nor swearer is and thus you leaders cause men to erre by upholding that which Christ is against here thy 39. Query is answered Here thou askest whether Paul himself did not swear Que. 40. in these words 2. Cor. 11.10 as the truth of Christ is in me c. Oh thou enemy of truth that would heare scandall and accuse Paul for swearing that so thou might uphold swearing but by what doth he here swear this is plain Language And thy next is concerning outward materiall Churches and the publick exercises therein Most of these Queries are answered in my Reply to thy Answer to my 17th Query Answ wherein I have declared why I object against your Steeple-houses which thou callest Churches Here thou askest if such meetings may not be mixt Assemblies Qu. 44. of learned unlearned of believers and unbelievers and thou quotes 1 Cor. 14.23 But the un-believers are not owned by the believers Answ though he come amongst the believers as in 2 Cor. 6.14 15 16 17 18. then the Ministers are far off being maintained by unbelievers as thou art for though thou confessest the greatest part are earthly minded and worldly minded thou yet art maintained by them and I am sure they that come into the true faith which purifieth the heart come out from amongst you so that you are not much mixed for you are all one nature like Priest like people And in thy 47. 48. Query thou askest if Christ and his Apostles did not frequent the Synagogues Yea they did Answ and so do we your Idoll-Temples but therein the Jews will condemn you who suffered them to speak as in that Scripture which thou hast quoted in Acts 13 14 15. which shall stand and witness against you who will not suffer us to speak in your Steeple-houses but suffers your flocks to hale us forth and fall upon us like Wolves and your Magistrates to hale us to prison therefore read your condemnation you persecuters and thy 49. Query is answered already with the other aforesaid Here thou askest Qu. 50. if the Prophet did not complain to God against the profaners and destroyers of the Synagogues in Psal 74.4 5 6 7. This Scripture which thou hast quoted doth answer thee but it doth not uphold your Idolls Temples Answ who worship you know not what wherein you teach for Doctrine the traditions of men and there are found in the steps of the Pharisees offering up your abominations as Christ marked you out in Mat. 6.5 where he meant as he spoke and all you do
was himselfe but a youth as Paul writes 1 Tim. 4.11.12 and there read thy rebuke Where did Christ or his Apostles send forth women to be publique prophetesses as you have don many and some of them not long since infamous for lewdnesse of life Qu. 86. Oh thou impudent one Answ how dost thou provoke the Lord to indignation against thee that darst lay any such thing to the Charge of Gods elect oh thou lier whom dost thou accuse of lewdnesse we abhor thy words for all lewdnesse and prophanesse we testify against wheresoever it doth appeare or any thing contrary to the pure divine light which now in thy conscience and many other consciences doth here witnesse for us against thee who art given up to beleivelies and report them therefore read thy portion in Rev. 21.8 and read an answer to thy Querie in Joel 2.28 where the Lord saith the sons and Daughters shall prophesy Rom. 16.1.2.3.4 and none other do we own but who immediately are caried forth by the Spirit of the Lord without the commission of man therefore thou falsly accusest us who saist we send forth any If you be extraordinary Prophets immediatly inspired as many of you pretend to be Qu. 87. where are the miracles which such inspired men wrought in times past But that we are so inspired thou dost not beleive Ans as may easily be discerned by thy Querying and therefore unto thee no signe shall be given who art in the adulterous generation who cannot see the signes that follow the truth Math. 16.4 What have you foretold by way of praediction Qu. 88. which hath accordingly come to passe as the Prophets Apostles and inspired men were wont to do If thou canst tax us to the contrary thou maist Answ we beare not witnesse of our selves but he that beleives hath the witnesse within himself And as for thy 89.90.91 and 92. Queries they are answered in my reply to thy answer to my 16. Querie and thy 93. Querie is answered in my answer to thy Query concerning Salutations Whether is a multitude of disciples and followers Que. 94. sure figne that his doctrine is from heaven who is followed seeing the way is broad that leads to destruction and many there be that find it and thou quotest Math. 7.13 and 2 Pet. 2.22 Many are called but few chofen Answ and many for a time followed Christ so that the ruler said if we let this fellow alone all men will goe after him which is the cry of you and your rulers now against the messengers of truth and hast thou never read of the multitudes that followed Christ but few there be that enter Iohn 11.48 Mat. 7.14 because strate is the Gate but devide England into parts and see if the greatest number belong not unto you who are in the broad way your lives preach you forth therefore now thou should have first asked thy self this Query and said Is it I and so have laid thy hand upon thy mouth Seeing this age is earthly-minded and willing to serve God Qu. 95. with that which costs them nothing contrary to the pious and noble spirit of David 2 Sam. 24.24 is it any great wonder that your doctrine against Tithes should find so many willing yea greedy entertayners of it as it hath done since it was first broached The more is your shame who are teachers in this age that are so earthly-minded Answ who have so long taken their monies for that which is not bread and their labour for that which profiteth not Isa 55.2 do you not herein manifest your selves to be such as run and the Lord never sent you Ier. 23.21.22.32 and therefore you profit not the people at all but they are still earthly-minded how have you then sowne spirituall things but I shall prove that the earthly-minded ones still stick unto you for you have a law made by the will of man so that if they refuse to pay you and forsake you then by it you cast them into prison and by your law take treble damage and this they know and therefore consult with their earthly mindes that it is better to pay the lesser then the greater there is much difference betwixt servings God and your bellies though the lesser is a greater oppression and thus mank deny the truth though they are convinced in their consciences thereof therefore that which leads any from you to take up this crosse to own the truth and deny you of Tithes the same crucifies the earthly mind and leade to suffer for conscience And the noble Spirit of David condemnes you for whereas he refused upon gift you will take upon gift and if they will not give it you you will take it by force therefore this Scripture affords witnesses against you but hereby thou confessest our doctrine costs them nothing then how said'st thou before that James Parnels Gospel was not without charge and thus out of thy own mouth art thou proved a liar Did ever Christ or the Apostles disturb the Priests and Ministers of these times Qu. 96. while they were teaching the people as many of you and yours have done Both the Prophets Christ and the Apostles Answ declared against the deceivers false Prophets Mat. 24.24 Ier. 23. Ezek. 34. Ioh. 10. Ier. 5.31 false Priests and Hirelings and the Apostles was haled out of the Synagogues and out of the Temple as Christ told them John 16.2 as we by the same spirit do now against you whom we finde in the same steps and here thou art answered if this be it thou callest disturbance but it is because you would bear rule by your means and suffer nothing to be published that is against you or strikes at your Diana Doth the Gospel ordinarily call any man from his lawful Calling Qu 97. whereby he should maintain himself and his Family and thou quotest 1 Cor. 7 20. Eph. 4.28 Yea it doth and the Scripture holds forth the same that they was ordinarily called from their outward Callings Answ to preach the Gospel to every Creature Amos. 7.14.15 Mark 16.15 Math. 4.18.19.20.21.22.23 neither doth either of these Scriptures which thou hast quoted prove to the contrary how many Scriptures didst thou quote in thy Answer to my 15th Query to prove that the Ministers of the Gospel might forbear working and not to entangle themselves with the affairs of this life yet in all could not prove thy selfe a Minister of the Gospel and now thou questions the truth of the Scripture because neither thou nor thy Brethren was called according to Scripture but whomsoever the Lord calls unto his work he doth take care both for him and his Family but you that are not called by him dare not trust him without a Law of man And in thy 98. 99. Query 2. Thes 3. Mat. ●8 7 thou seems to accuse us with some that turned from the truth
and yielded to the deceipt of their heares and so gave occasion to such as thee who wait for occasion to blaspheme the truth but it is no new thing 1 Tim. 14.15 but the same which the Scripture declares of in divers places therefore saith Christ offences must come but woe unto them by whom they do come Mat. 26 Mat. 27.5 for there was then many such as thee in that age who as thou dost waited for occasion to blaspheme the truth but if thou hadst been then how would'st thou have accused Christ who had but twelve Apostles and one of them betrayed him and then hanged himselfe and another denied him therefore let this stop thy mouth for speaking evil of the things thou knowest not and as for Spencer and Gilpin whom thou here nominates the truth is sufficiently cleared of them in other Books and the Priests have owned them as they did Judas which is the name of all that turn from the truth after they have received it Have so many fallen into distraction or madness in any Sect Qu 100. or under any Doctrine as there hath done amongst your hearers especially where the number of Disciples was no more Look at home and answer thy selfe witness your Universities Ans as you call them for it is the fruit of your studies who would finde out that by your wit and wisdom which the Lord hath hid from you and all that you cannot settle in security and blindness you lead them into madness confusion and distraction if they do not in time forsake you as many will witness at this day that they are led by you into such a Wildernesse that they know not which way to get out neither do you know how to direct them for you are in confusion your selves Mat. 15 14. and so the blinde leads the blinde into the ditch therefore this might have stopped thy mouth from falsly accusing us but I remember truth was ever accounted madness and folly by the blinde World who know not that Godliness is great gain And in thy 94. Query thou wast questioning the truth of our Doctrine because of the multitude of Disciples and now by the fewness and thus thou contradicts thy selfe and then after much of thy filthy stuffe which all along thou hast vented forth of thy old bottle against us which upon thee I have returned again from whence it came thou seemest to accuse our book but dost not shew wherein and therefore I passe it by as knowing thy lying spirit and then thou stealest the Apostles words for a Cloak for the deceipt of thy heart 2 Cor. 13.7 8 9. which the Apostle spoke from a true and upright heart but thou from a false deceiptful heart as all along hath been sufficiently proved and thy prayers to be abomination and that thou hast nothing to do to name the name of God in thy mouth who art a worker of iniquity and a stranger unto God who art found out of his Doctrine 2 Tim. 2 19. 2 Ioh. 9. and therefore with this Scripture I shall mark thee 2 John 9.10 that all may know thee and turn away their eares from thee who art not to be received but denied and therefore whosoever receives thee or thy Doctrine the same departs from the Doctrine of Christ and therefore let this be a Caveat to all people to whom it shall come and look upon thee to be as Anathema Maranatha 1 Cor. 16.22 This from a friend to all souls witnessed in all consciences by the eternall Light of God by which I am known and received I. P. THE END