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their_o testimony_n and_o for_o any_o reader_n papist_n or_o protestant_n that_o will_v have_v more_o testimony_n to_o this_o end_n to_o see_v whether_o it_o be_v rome_n authority_n or_o infallibility_n or_o rather_o the_o scripture_n that_o be_v the_o testimony_n which_o must_v support_v our_o faith_n and_o be_v first_o to_o be_v know_v i_o desire_v they_o to_o read_v they_o already_o collect_v in_o chamier_n in_o doctor_n sutlive_n in_o sibrandus_fw-la lubbertus_n de_fw-fr princip_n christ_n dogmat_n in_o chemuitius_n and_o bellarmine_n himself_o who_o recite_v they_o out_o of_o chemnitius_n and_o pretend_v and_o vain_o pretend_v to_o answer_v they_o to_o who_o lubbertus_n and_o many_o more_o of_o we_o have_v therein_o reply_v but_o special_o read_v that_o excellent_a treatise_n of_o philip_n mornay_n lord_n du_fw-fr plessis_n of_o the_o church_n corinth_n clemens_n romanus_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n use_v not_o once_o to_o they_o any_o argument_n from_o his_o authority_n and_o infallibility_n which_o sure_o he_o will_v have_v do_v for_o the_o heal_n of_o so_o great_a a_o schism_n if_o it_o have_v be_v true_a nay_o when_o he_o do_v earnest_o press_v they_o to_o submit_v to_o and_o obey_v their_o own_o presbyter_n he_o never_o require_v any_o obedience_n to_o himself_o or_o to_o the_o roman_a church_n nay_o so_o far_o be_v he_o from_o take_v any_o notice_n of_o any_o universal_a monarchy_n or_o infallibility_n in_o himself_o that_o he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o take_v notice_n of_o any_o bishop_n distinct_a from_o a_o presbyter_n in_o their_o own_o church_n nor_o once_o call_v they_o to_o be_v determine_v by_o any_o single_a or_o supereminent_a bishop_n at_o all_o but_o only_o to_o obey_v their_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n rom._n ignatius_n write_v to_o the_o roman_n call_v they_o only_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quae_fw-la &_o praesidet_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la regionis_fw-la romanorum_fw-la or_o as_o bishop_n usher_v ancient_a version_n have_v it_o quae_fw-la &_o praesidet_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la chori_fw-la romanorum_fw-la which_o be_v not_o a_o presidency_n over_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o towards_o the_o end_n he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n memores_fw-la estote_fw-la in_o precibus_fw-la vestris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la in_o syria_n quae_fw-la prome_fw-la jam_fw-la christo_fw-la pastore_n utitur_fw-la as_o hier._n vairlenius_n silvius_n interprete_v it_o in_o his_o edit_n pag._n 69._o i_o know_v that_o the_o old_a vulgar_a latin_a edition_n which_o be_v in_o joachimus_n perionius_n his_o edition_n pag_n 494._o and_o in_o bishop_n usher_v pag._n 89._o translate_v it_o mementote_n in_o orationibus_fw-la vesiris_n illius_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o recturus_fw-la est_fw-la ecelesiam_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la in_o syria_n as_o if_o it_o be_v his_o successor_n that_o he_o will_v have_v they_o pray_v for_o but_o as_o vairlenius_n so_o vedelius_fw-la also_o better_a translate_v it_o ecclesiae_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la in_o syria_n quae_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o jam_fw-la domino_fw-la pastore_fw-la utitur_fw-la edit_fw-la vedel_n pag._n 250._o and_o bishop_n usher_v old_a latin_a translation_n be_v ecclesiae_fw-la quae_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o pastore_fw-la dei_fw-la utitur_fw-la and_o the_o next_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n &_o solus_fw-la â—am_fw-la visitahit_fw-la &_o sit_fw-la vestra_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la dilectio_fw-la as_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a version_n or_o solus_fw-la ipsam_fw-la curabit_fw-la visitabitque_fw-la as_o vairlenius_n and_o vedelius_fw-la or_o rather_o as_o bishop_n usher_v old_a latin_a version_n solus_fw-la ipse_fw-la jesus_n christus_fw-la vice_n episcopi_fw-la sit_fw-la from_o whence_o i_o gather_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o bishop_n universal_a of_o that_o syrian_a church_n or_o else_o ignatius_n 1_o will_v have_v sure_o commend_v it_o to_o his_o care_n 2._o or_o at_o least_o 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