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epistle_n ad_fw-la smyrnenses_n often_o cite_v by_o eusebius_n athanasius_n s._n jerome_n theodoret_n and_o other_o ancients_n speak_v of_o the_o saturnian_a heretic_n say_v they_o admit_v not_o of_o eucharist_n and_o oblation_n because_o they_o do_v not_o confess_v the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v our_o saviour_n flesh_n which_o suffer_v for_o our_o sin_n and_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n i_o do_v not_o delight_v in_o any_o corruptible_a food_n nor_o in_o the_o pleasure_n of_o this_o life_n i_o desire_v the_o bread_n of_o god_n the_o heavenly_a bread_n which_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n s._n denis_n areop_n l._n de_fw-fr eccl._n hierarch_n c._n 3._o o_o most_o divine_a and_o holy_a sacrament_n vouchsafe_v merciful_o to_o open_v the_o veil_n of_o those_o signify_v sign_n wherein_o thou_o hide_v thyself_o and_o appear_v plain_o unto_o we_o in_o the_o second_o age_n s._n irenaeus_n l._n 4._o c._n 34._o dispute_v against_o the_o heretic_n who_o deny_v 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