Selected quad for the lemma: doctrine_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
doctrine_n	concern_v	faith_n	justification_n	2,843	5	9.2516	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85394	Hagiomastix, or The scourge of the saints displayed in his colours of ignorance & blood: or, a vindication of some printed queries published some moneths since by authority, in way of answer to certaine anti-papers of syllogismes, entituled a Vindication of a printed paper, &c. ... / By John Goodwin, pastor of a Church of Christ in Colemanstreet.	Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665.	1647 (1647)	Wing G1169; Thomason E374_1; ESTC R201334; ESTC R201335	139,798	168

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and_o importune_a confidence_n of_o a_o certain_a knewledge_n in_o the_o ordinance-maker_n and_o consequent_o in_o themselves_o that_o the_o opinion_n condemn_v in_o the_o ordinance_n be_v damnable_a heresy_n i_o be_o half_a jealous_a from_o the_o air_n of_o their_o confidence_n that_o 25._o sect._n 25._o they_o understand_v not_o what_o they_o say_v nor_o whereof_o they_o affirm_v 7._o affirm_v 1_o tim._n 1._o 7._o i_o mean_v that_o they_o know_v not_o or_o at_o least_o consider_v not_o what_o belong_v to_o a_o certainty_n of_o knowledge_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n it_o be_v a_o gracious_a and_o excellent_a degree_n of_o persuasion_n concern_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o much_o more_o concern_v the_o truth_n of_o particular_a doctrine_n in_o it_o when_o man_n be_v call_v to_o it_o by_o god_n be_v make_v able_a and_o willing_a thereby_o to_o lay_v down_o their_o life_n for_o they_o or_o in_o confirmation_n of_o they_o if_o themselves_o 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or_o confidence_n as_o this_o do_v no_o way_n import_v a_o certainty_n of_o knowledge_n six_o it_o be_v the_o common_a doctrine_n and_o opinion_n of_o those_o author_n 52._o sect._n 52._o which_o be_v general_o by_o protestant_n repute_v classic_a and_o orthodox_n though_o my_o own_o judgement_n i_o confess_v rather_o incline_v another_o way_n that_o all_o other_o argument_n and_o proof_n which_o 25._o sect._n 25._o be_v usual_o yea_o or_o which_o can_v be_v bring_v to_o prove_v the_o divinity_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o gospel_n be_v but_o dialecticall_a and_o probable_a not_o demonstrative_a or_o conclusive_a without_o all_o fear_n of_o truth_n on_o the_o other_o side_n or_o however_o not_o sufficient_a to_o persuade_v man_n to_o a_o firm_a assent_n unto_o they_o they_o only_o allow_v the_o supernatural_a and_o immediate_a work_n of_o the_o spirit_n aliquid_fw-la spirit_n atque_fw-la hoc_fw-la argumentum_fw-la nempe_fw-la testificatio_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la est_fw-la renatorum_fw-la proprium_fw-la ita_fw-la solum_fw-la corda_fw-la eorum_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la de_fw-fr veritate_fw-la &_o authoritate_fw-la scripturae_fw-la sacrae_fw-la convincit_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la persuadet_fw-la ut_fw-la assentiantur_fw-la &_o in_o eâ_fw-la firmiter_fw-la acquiescant_fw-la reliqua_fw-la omne_fw-la communia_fw-la sunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la non_fw-la conversis_fw-la quos_fw-la quidem_fw-la etiam_fw-la convincunt_fw-la atque_fw-la ora_fw-la contradicentibus_fw-la obturant_fw-la sed_fw-la sola_fw-la non_fw-fr persuadent_fw-la nec_fw-la movent_fw-la ad_fw-la assentiendum_fw-la nisi_fw-la intus_fw-la testimonium_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la accedat_fw-la ursimus_n catech._n proleg_n c._n 4._o sect._n 14._o haec_fw-la cer●è_fw-la à_fw-la legentibus_fw-la &_o audientibus_fw-la percipiuntur_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la cum_fw-la fructu_fw-la fiat_fw-la &_o verâ_fw-la fide_fw-la necessarium_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la suorum_fw-la uniuscujusque_fw-la afflatu_fw-la spiri●ls_n svi_fw-la cor_fw-la tangat_fw-la ut_fw-la veritatem_fw-la divinam_fw-la in_o his_o scriptis_fw-la elucentem_fw-la agnoscat_fw-la ad_fw-la quorum_fw-la lumen_fw-la alioqui_fw-la ambulare_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la qui_fw-la spirituali_fw-la caecitate_fw-la detin●ntur_fw-la donee_n deus_fw-la iis_fw-la quibus_fw-la verbum_fw-la illud_fw-la legitur_fw-la aut_fw-la praedicatur_fw-la corda_n illuminet_fw-la sine_fw-la quo_fw-la spiritûs_fw-la motu_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la verae_fw-la testimonium_fw-la quod_fw-la medium_n ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la utile_fw-la etiam_fw-la censemus_fw-la sed_fw-la neque_fw-la unicum_fw-la neque_fw-la sufficiens_fw-la prorsus_fw-la esset_fw-la inefficax_n andr._n rivet_n isag_n cap._n ●_o sect._n 8._o quare_fw-la quod_fw-la piis_fw-la hominibus_fw-la sole_a clarius_fw-la est_fw-la illis_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la mentibus_fw-la obtenebratis_fw-la quavis_fw-la est_fw-la caligine_fw-la obscurius_fw-la musc_n loc._n de_fw-fr sacris_fw-la scripture_n quare_fw-la si_fw-la nostrum_fw-la illud_fw-la credere_fw-la scripturae_fw-la pendet_fw-la à_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-it quid_fw-la obstat_fw-la quò_fw-la minùs_fw-la concl●damus_fw-la quod_fw-la proposuimus_fw-la scripturae_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la quoad_fw-la nos_fw-la pendere_fw-la à_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-it agente_fw-it in_o conscientiis_fw-la nostris_fw-la probatur_fw-la jam_fw-la minor_fw-la nemo_fw-la credit_n iis_fw-la quae_fw-la continentur_fw-la i●_n scripturâ_fw-la sanctâ_fw-la nisi_fw-la doctus_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la at_o quicunque_fw-la credit_n scripturae_fw-la credit_n iis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la quae_fw-la continentur_fw-la in_o eâ_fw-la ergo_fw-la nemo_fw-la credit_n scripturae_fw-la nisi_fw-la doctus_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la per_fw-la fidem_fw-la insusam_fw-la minor_n per_fw-la se_fw-la patet_fw-la quia_fw-la scripturae_fw-la credere_fw-la in_fw-la hac_fw-la saltem_fw-la controversiâ_fw-la est_fw-la 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one_o or_o the_o other_o be_v so_o or_o such_o as_o he_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v as_o to_o the_o two_o instance_n wherein_o they_o insist_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o 91._o sect._n 91._o trinity_n and_o the_o incarnation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n affirm_v that_o a_o man_n ought_v not_o to_o refuse_v to_o believe_v they_o although_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o they_o he_o can_v by_o his_o reason_n comprehend_v they_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o as_o by_o my_o reason_n i_o can_v and_o do_v comprehend_v and_o know_v they_o to_o be_v incomprehensible_a so_o i_o believe_v they_o according_o to_o be_v again_o second_o as_o by_o my_o reason_n i_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v comprehend_v or_o conceive_v the_o particular_a modus_fw-la or_o manner_n of_o either_o so_o neither_o do_v i_o or_o ought_v i_o nor_o indeed_o can_v i_o without_o run_v a_o extreme_a hazard_n of_o a_o erroneous_a belief_n believe_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o concern_v they_o save_v only_o their_o incomprehensiblenesse_n in_o the_o general_a or_o that_o they_o be_v incomprehensible_a which_o as_o be_v say_v i_o be_o able_a by_o my_o reason_n to_o comprehend_v so_o then_o these_o two_o assertion_n or_o doctrine_n well_o understand_v first_o that_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o what_o he_o have_v reason_n and_o ground_n for_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o second_o t●●●_n that_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o what_o he_o be_v able_a by_o his_o reason_n to_o comprehend_v be_v but_o of_o a_o equipollent_a import_n and_o there_o be_v nothing_o more_o much_o more_o nothing_o more_o erroneous_a in_o the_o one_o then_o in_o the_o other_o that_o towards_o the_o beginning_n of_o this_o answer_n yea_o there_o be_v a_o piece_n of_o a_o duplicate_v of_o it_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o answer_n too_o be_v extreme_o unreasonable_a and_o obnoxious_a wherein_o they_o suppose_v yea_o little_o less_o than_o in_o terminis_fw-la affirm_v that_o they_o that_o will_v be_v satisfy_v what_o the_o ordinance_n mean_v by_o make_v it_o a_o error_n to_o hold_v that_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o what_o by_o his_o reason_n he_o be_v able_a to_o comprehend_v must_v read_v the_o socinian_n book_n and_o there_o inform_v themselves_o what_o their_o proper_a opinion_n be_v for_o be_v it_o in_o any_o degree_n reasonable_a equal_a or_o just_a that_o such_o a_o ordinance_n or_o law_n shall_v be_v make_v and_o that_o for_o the_o imprisonment_n which_o be_v by_o interpretation_n the_o utter_a undo_n of_o man_n in_o case_n of_o delinquency_n the_o sense_n or_o meaning_n whereof_o they_o be_v in_o a_o utter_a incapacity_n to_o understand_v unless_o they_o read_v such_o book_n which_o first_o be_v only_o extant_a in_o such_o a_o language_n which_o not_o one_o of_o a_o hundred_o be_v able_a to_o 92._o sect._n 92._o understand_v and_o second_o be_v so_o rare_a and_o hard_o to_o be_v get_v that_o for_o the_o space_n of_o 13_o year_n and_o upward_o ever_o since_o my_o come_n to_o the_o city_n though_o i_o have_v from_o time_n to_o time_n make_v a_o narrow_a inquiry_n after_o they_o and_o lay_v out_o in_o several_a place_n where_o i_o conceive_v i_o shall_v be_v most_o likely_a to_o speed_v for_o some_o or_o other_o of_o they_o yet_o can_v i_o never_o to_o this_o day_n procure_v either_o for_o love_n or_o money_n as_o the_o say_n be_v so_o much_o as_o any_o one_o of_o they_o their_o groundless_a mistake_n about_o what_o the_o querist_n as_o they_o say_v will_v imply_v to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n in_o the_o ordinance_n and_o their_o turn_n of_o the_o querie_n with_o a_o wet_a finger_n as_o if_o there_o be_v nothing_o material_a in_o it_o but_o a_o heap●_n of_o word_n i_o pass_v by_o and_o pardon_v be_v content_a they_o shall_v be_v number_v among_o their_o infirmity_n quotidianae_fw-la incursionis_fw-la in_o their_o answer_n to_o the_o thirty_o querie_n they_o maintain_v that_o 92._o sect._n 92._o the_o ordinance_n do_v express_v what_o it_o mean_v by_o obstinacy_n when_o it_o threaten_v the_o publish_n of_o such_o and_o such_o doctrine_n with_o obstinacy_n their_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o ordinance_n appoint_v admonition_n to_o go_v before_o punishment_n but_o be_v this_o a_o explication_n of_o what_o it_o mean_v by_o obstinacy_n certain_o these_o grand_a assertor_n of_o the_o ordinance_n have_v quit_v themselves_o upon_o term_n of_o more_o wisdom_n for_o the_o honour_n of_o it_o if_o they_o have_v plain_o g●●●ted_v that_o it_o have_v not_o indeed_o make_v any_o sufficient_a explication_n of_o itself_o in_o that_o particular_a for_o be_v a_o man_n to_o be_v judge_v obstinate_a who_o shall_v do_v that_o though_o after_o admonition_n which_o his_o admonition_n notwithstanding_o he_o judge_v and_o that_o upon_o good_a ground_n to_o be_v his_o duty_n to_o do_v be_v the_o apostle_n obstinate_a for_o preach_v in_o the_o na●●_n of_o jesus_n after_o that_o the_o highpriest_n ruler_n and_o elder_n solemn_o meet_v in_o a_o council_n have_v admonish_v they_o yea_o and_o strait_o charge_v and_o command_v they_o that_o they_o shall_v in_o no_o wise_n speak_v or_o teach_v any_o more_o in_o that_o name_n 18._o name_n act._n 4._o 18._o oh_o england_n awake_a for_o i_o fear_v thou_o sleep_v look_v about_o thou_o and_o consider_v how_o easy_o and_o when_o thou_o least_o think_v of_o it_o thou_o may_v be_v a_o obstinate_a offender_n if_o man_n of_o this_o spirit_n shall_v be_v thy_o judge_n in_o their_o 31_o answer_n they_o tell_v a_o mystical_a or_o misty_a story_n of_o 93._o sect._n 93._o the_o sense_n or_o meaning_n whereof_o i_o be_o no_o way_n guilty_a yet_o i_o shall_v tell_v it_o after_o they_o because_o some_o possible_o may_v understand_v it_o though_o i_o can_v as_o some_o perhaps_o say_v they_o of_o the_o querist_n friend_n may_v be_v thank_v for_o it_o they_o speak_v of_o that_o strong_a opposition_n insinuate_v in_o 93._o sect._n 93._o the_o querie_n between_o the_o government_n establish_v by_o the_o parliament_n and_o that_o so_o importunate_o desire_v by_o the_o minister_n who_o have_v endeavour_v to_o bind_v heavy_a burden_n upon_o other_o ever_o persecute_v they_o for_o not_o yield_v to_o those_o thing_n which_o even_o the_o conscience_n of_o those_o that_o press_v they_o know_v they_o can_v and_o believe_v they_o may_v not_o yield_v unto_o so_o careful_a and_o tender_a be_v they_o of_o their_o brethren_n conscience_n so_o be_v it_o neither_o of_o that_o kind_n they_o will_v have_v it_o be_v no_o way_n in_o favour_n of_o there_o independency_n for_o first_o it_o be_v the_o strange_a news_n to_o i_o that_o i_o have_v hear_v many_o a_o day_n that_o any_o of_o my_o friend_n shall_v deserve_v thanks_n either_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o opposition_n they_o speak_v of_o between_o the_o two_o government_n i_o can_v believe_v that_o any_o person_n man_n or_o woman_n congregational_o incline_v do_v ever_o either_o persuade_v any_o of_o the_o minister_n they_o speak_v of_o to_o oppose_v that_o government_n by_o presbytery_n which_o be_v establish_v by_o the_o parliament_n nor_o yet_o distil_v into_o they_o any_o of_o that_o spirit_n or_o those_o principle_n out_o of_o which_o they_o oppose_v it_o how_o then_o shall_v they_o be_v accessary_a to_o the_o opposition_n second_o whereas_o they_o charge_v the_o friend_n of_o the_o querist_n yet_o further_o with_o endeavour_v to_o bind_v heavy_a burden_n upon_o other_o ever_o persecute_v they_o for_o not_o yield_v to_o etc._n etc._n this_o be_v tiding_n yet_o seven_o degree_n strange_a than_o the_o other_o if_o it_o be_v true_a then_o be_v the_o scandal_n of_o independency_n cease_v from_o among_o we_o for_o if_o independent_o also_o endeavour_v to_o bind_v heavy_a burden_n upon_o other_o and_o to_o persecute_v man_n for_o not_o yield_v unto_o those_o thing_n which_o in_o conscience_n they_o can_v yield_v unto_o then_o be_v we_o 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