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A46991 A collection of the works of that holy man and profound divine, Thomas Iackson ... containing his comments upon the Apostles Creed, &c. : with the life of the author and an index annexed.; Selections. 1653 Jackson, Thomas, 1579-1640.; Oley, Barnabas, 1602-1686.; Vaughan, Edmund. 1653 (1653) Wing J88; Wing J91; ESTC R10327 823,194 586

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with other stand mutually affected how both subordinate to the absolute immutability of that one everlasting decree Want of resolution in these points as far as my observation serves me hath continually bred an universal threefold want of care and vigilancie for preventing dangers in themselves avoidable of alacrious indeavors to redeem time in part surprized by them of patience of hearty submission to Gods will and constant expectation of his providence after all hope of redemption from temporal plagues long threatned by his messengers is past For here we suppose what out of the fundamental principles of Christian religion shall in good time be made evident that in all ruinated states or forepast alterations of religion from better to worse there was a time wherein the possibility of misfortunes which afterwards befel them might have been prevented a time wherein they might have been recovered from eminent dangers wherewith they were encompast a time after which there was no possibility left them of avoyding the day of visitation never brought forth but by the precedent fulness of iniquity but alwaies necessarily by it In the discussion of these and other points of like nature because more depending upon strict examination of consequences deduced from the undoubted rules of Scripture then upon authorities of antiquitie skill in the tongues or any other learning that required long experience or observation I laboured most whilest those Arts and Sciences which are most conducible to this search were freshest in my memory And could I hope to satisfie others in all or most of these as fully as I have long since done my self I should take greatest pleasure in my pains addressed to this purpose But would it please the Lord in mercy to raise up some English writer that could in such sort handle these points as their use and consequence or necessity of present times requires succeeding ages I am perswaded should have more cause to bless the day of his nativity then of the greatest States-mens or stoutest Warriors this land hath yielded since the birth of our Fathers this day living It shall suffice he to begin the offering with my mite in hope some learned Academicks for unto them belongs the conquest of this golden fleece will employ their Talents to like publick use What I conceive shall be by Gods assistance unfolded in as plain and unoffensive terms as the nature of the subject will bear or my faculties reach unto partly in the Article of Gods providence partly in other discourses directly subordinate unto it Lastly for the full and perfect growth at least for the sweet and pleasant flourishing of lively Faith one of the most effectual means our industry that can but plant or water attains unto would be to unfold the harmony betwixt Prophetical predictions and Historical events concerning the Kingdom of Christ and time of the Gospel a point for ought I know not purposely handled by any modern writer except those whose success cannot be great until their delight in contention and contradiction be less Notwithstanding whatsoever I shall find good in them or any other without all respect of persons much more without all desire of opposition or occasion of contention a matter alwaies undecent in a Christian but most odious and lothsom in a subject so melodious and pleasant I will not be afraid to follow intending a full Treatise of the divers kindes of Prophecies with the manner of their interpretations before the Articles of Christs Incarnation Passion and Ascension These are the especial points which for the better confirmation of true Christian faith and rectifying perswasions in matters of manners or good life are principally aimed at in these meditations The main obstacle the Atheist stumbles at is the Article of the bodies resurrection Whose passive possibility shall by Gods assistance be evidently demonstrated against him by the undoubted rules of nature whose Priest or Minister he professeth himself to be That de facto it shall be the Scriptures whose truth ere then will appear Divine must assure us Nature cannot though thus much were in some sort known and believed by many natural men from traditions of the ancient or suspected from some notions of the law of nature not quite obliterated in all sorts of the heathen as shall in that Article God willing be observed But why our Assent unto this and all other Articles in this Creed being in good measure established the momentary hopes or transitory pleasures of this world should with most in their whole course of life with all of us in many particular actions in private and secret temptations more prevail then that exceeding weight of glory which Christian hope would fasten on our souls to keep unruly affections under hath often enforced me to wonder and wonderment hereat first moved me to untertake these labors if by any means I may attain unto the causes of this so grievous an infirmity or find out some part of a remedy for it Doubtless had the heathen Philosophers but known or suspected such joyes as we profess we believe and hope for or such a death or more then deadly torments as after this life ended we fear their lives and manners would as far have surpassed the best Christians now living as their knowledge in supernatural mysteries came short of the most learned that are or have been in that profession and yet whatsoever helps any Christian or heathen had for encreasing knowledge or bettering manners are more plentiful in this then any precedent age so that the fault is wholly in our selves that will not apply medicines already prepared as shall God prospering these proceedings be declared in the last Article of this Creed For controversies betwixt us and the Romish Church besides such are directly opposite to the end and method proposed I purposely meddle with none of that rank some as that of the Churches infallibility undermine the very foundation others as the doctrine of merit and justification the propitiation of the Mass unroof the edifice and deface the walls of Christian faith leaving nothing thereof but altarstones for their idolatrous sacrifices For this reason have I built with one hand used my weapon with the other laying the positive or general grounds of Faith against the Infidel or Atheist in the first Book and gaurding them in the second by the sword of the Spirit against all attempts of Romish Sanballats or Tobiahs who still labor to perswade our people the walls of Christs Church here erected since our fore-fathers redemption from captivity unless supported by their supposed infallibility are so weak That if a Fox should go upon them he should break them down In the third which was at this time intended but must stay a while to bring forth a fourth I batter those painted walls whose shallow foundations are discovered in the second The other controversies about the propitiatory sacrifices of the Mass Merits and Justification I prosecute in the Articles of Christs Passion and
Sectaries so he terms us contend about and for proof of this Blasphemous Assertion to bring the forecited place Ere their allegations of this or like places brought to prove the Scriptures Difficultie or Obscurity can be pertinent they must according to the state of the Question already proposed first prove this Obscurity or Difficultie to be perpetuall and ordinarie not inflicted as a punishment upon Hypocrites or such as love Darknesse more than Light And this they never shall be able this one place alledged by Valentian most evidently proves the contrarie For this was an extraordinarie and miraculous Judgement vpon these Jews for their Hypocrisie as appears Verses the thirteen and fourteen And unto such as they were weacknowledge the Scriptures by the just Judgement of God to be most Difficult still but denie such Difficulties to be any Bar why they should not be the complete Rule of Faith If the Jesuites will avouch the contrarie Let them tell us whether any other Rule could in this case supply their defect be it unwritten Tradition or viva vox infallibilis authoritatis the infallible teaching or preaching of the visible Church or Pope This I presume they will be ashamed to affirm For this Prophecie was fulfilled of the Pharisees which lived in our Saviours time and heard him preach the Doctrine of Salvation as plainly as the Pope can do yet neither could his Doctrine nor Miracles win them to his Father Why could they not Because they had as the Papists now have though not so openly disclaimed the Scriptures for the Rule of their Faith and did follow the Precepts or Traditions of Men and God as we said before hath so de reed that such as neglect the Truth known or love Darknesse more than Light should be given over to this reprobate sense that the more evident the Truth is the more hatefull it should be to them as the hate of these Scribe and Pharisees to our Saviour was greater then their fore-elders had been to the Prophets because the light of his Doctrine was greater his Reprehensions more sharp and their deeds and Hypocrisie worse than their Fathers No marvail then if it be so hard a matter to recover a learned Papist or make a Jesuite recant his errour in this Point seeing they are farther gone in this Jewish disease of contemning Gods Word following Traditions and Precepts of Men for the Rule of their Faith than these Jews themselves were not likely therefore they would have yeelded to our Saviour himself if they had lived in his time Nor should the ingenious Reader think we Hyperbolize or over-lash when we charge them with deeper Blasphemie in this Point than these Jews were guiltie of as if this were strange seeing they are such great Scholers and professe that they love Christ as well as we for so would these Jews boast of their Antiquitie and skill in Scriptures and thought that they loved God and his Servant Moses as well as Christ and his Apostles did But it was Gods purpose to confound the Wisdom of the worldly-wise of the Scribes and Pharisees then and of the learned Priests and Jesuites now CAP. XIV How men must be Qualified ere they can understand Scriptures aright that the Pope is not so Qualified 1 OUt of the forementioned places it is Evident that Gods Word otherwise plain and perspicuous was hidden from this Peoples eyes for their Hypocrisie and the same Blindnesse continues still in their Posteritie for continuing in like sin But can it be proved as evidently by any other place of Scripture that unto such as do the Will of God and Practise according to his Precepts the same Word shall be plain and easie so far as is necessarie for their Salvation Yes Infinite places may be brought to this Purpose And lest any man should except against the Extent of such bountifull promises as if they included some condition of Learning great dexteritie of Wit or the like whereof many men are not capable Our Saviour Christ addes the universall Note If any man will do his Will he shall know of the Doctrine whether it be of God or whether I speak of my self If Any Man will do his Will Not if any man will learn the learned Tongues or studie the Scribes and Pharisees Comments which this people supposed to have been the onely as they were good Means for understanding Scriptures aright whilest subordinate to this principall Condition here mentioned by our Saviour The occasion of the Multitudes admiring his Doctrine was that He who had never been Scholar to their Rabbins should be so expert in Scriptures as it is Verse the fifteenth Our Saviours replie to this their Doubt conceived by way of admiration in the sixteenth Verse is that he had his Learning from God and not from Man My Doctrine is not mine but his that sent me And as he was taught by his Father to deliver and teach the heavenly Doctrine so might the simplest and most unlearned amongst them be likewise taught of God to discern whether his Doctrine were of God or whether he spake of himself If they would do the Will of God and seek his Glory not their own as Christ did not seek his own Glory but his that sent him Yet might these Jews have brought the same Exceptions against our Saviours Rule for discerning Doctrines which the Papists now bring against the Scriptures why they should not be the infallible Rule of Faith as shall appear hereafter In the mean time whom shall we beleeve the Modern Jesuite who will swear one thing sitting and the contrary standing or Christ Jesus whose Word as he himself remains yesterday to day the same for ever Even at this day as well as at that time when he spake this Oracle if any man will do the Will of God which sent him he amidst the Varietie of mens Opinions concerning matters of Faith shall know of the Doctrine whether it be of God or whether Men speak of themselves without recourse unto the infallible Authority of such as sit in Peters Chair who are to Peter but as unto Moses the Scribes and Pharisees were unto whom Gods Church in Jewrie about our Saviours time was not much beholden for Doctrines of Faith or Decisions of Doubts concerning the Truth of Scriptures or principal Mysteries taught by Moses 2 Will you hear what Bellarmine the only Champion that ever Rome had for eluding evident Authorities of Scripture could answer unto this place Our Lord and Saviour did not intena in this speech to shew us that all honest minded men might understand every place of Scripture by themselves but to teach us that good men are free from diverse such Impediments as dis-enable others for understanding the true Doctrine of Faith either by themselves or by others help For some became uncapable of true Faith by pride and desire of worldly honour others by covetousnesse All these things heard the Pharisees also which were covetous and they
annexed to any peculiar Men or Company of Men distinct from others by Prerogative of Place Preheminence of Succession and from him or them to be derived unto all others set apart for this Ministerie or whether the Ministerie of any men of what Place or Societie soever whom God hath called to this Function and enabled for the same be sufficient for the begetting of true Faith without any others Confirmation or Approbation of their Doctrine 9 Secondly it is questioned how this Ministery of Man which is necessarily supposed ordinarily both for knowing the Word of God and the true Meaning of it becomes available for the begetting of true Belief in either point In whomsoever the Authoritie of this Ministerial Function be the Question is whether it perform thus much only by Proposing or Expounding the Word which is Infallible or by their Infallible Proposal or Exposition of it that is whether for the attaining of true Belief in both Points mentioned we must relie infallibly upon the Infallible VVord of God only or partly upon it and partly upon the Infallibility of such as expound it unto us Or in other words thus whether the Authoritie or Infallibilitie of any Mans Doctrine or Asseveration concerning these Scriptures or their true Sense be as infallibly to be Believed as those Scriptures themselves are or that Sense of them which the spirit of God hath wrought in our Hearts by sure and undoubted Experience 10 These are the principal Roots and Fountains of Difference between us concerning our present Controversie whence issue and spring these following First Whether Christ whose Authoritie both acknowledge for Infallible hath left any Publick Judge of these Scriptures which both receive or of their right Sense and Meaning from whose Sentence we may not appeal or whether all to whom this Ministrie of Faith is committed be but Expositors of Divine Scriptures so as their Expositions may by all faithful Christians be examined Hence ariseth that other Question whether the Scriptures be the Infallible Rule of Faith If Scripture admit any Judge then is it no Rule of Faith If all Doctrines are to be examined by Scripture then is it a perfect Rule 11 Our Adversaries especially later Jesuites Positions are these The Infallible Authoritie of the present Church that is of some visible Companie of living Men must be as absolutely Believed of all Christians as any Oracle of God and hence would they bind all such as pro●esse the Catholick Faith in all Causes concerning the Oracles or Word of God to yield the same Obedience unto Decrees and Constitutions of the Church which is due unto these Oracles themselves even to such of them as all Faithful Hearts do undoubtedly know to be Gods written Word 12 The Reasons pretended for this absolute Obedience to be performed unto the Church or visible Company of Men are drawn from the Insufficiency of Scripture either for notifying it self to be the Word of God or the true Sense and Meaning of it self Consequently to these Objections they stifly maintain That the Infallible Authority of the present Church is the mos● sure most safe undoubted Rule in all Doubts or Controversies of Faith or in all Points concerning these Oracles of God by which we may certainly know Both without which we cannot possibly know either which are the Oracles of God which not or what is the true Sense and Meaning of such as are received for his Oracles one of the especial Consequents of these Assertions is That this Churches Decisions or Decrees may not be examined by Scriptures 13 Our Churches Assertions concerning the knowledge of Gods Word in general is thus As Gods Word is in it self Infallible so it may be infallibly apprehended and Believed by every Christian unto whom he vouchsafeth to speak after what manner soever he speak unto him Yea whatsoever is necessary for any man to Believe the same must be infallibly written in his heart and on it once written there he must immediately relie not upon any other Authoritie concerning it 14 Or if we speak of Gods written Word our former general Assertion may be restrained thus 15 We are not bound to Believe the Authority of the Church or visible Compani● of any living men either concerning the Truth or true Sense of Divine Oracles written so stedfastly and absolutely as we are bound to Believe the Divine written Oracles themselves Consequently to this Assertion we affirm 16. The the In●allible Rule whereupon every Christian in matters of written Verities absolutely and finally without all appeal condition or reservation is to relie must be the Divine written Oracles themselves some of which every Christian hath written in his Heart by the finger of Gods Spirit and Believes immediately In and For themselves not for any Authoritie of Men and these to him must be the Rule for examining all other Doctrines and trying any Masters of Faith But because most in our daies in Matters of Faith and Christian Obedience misse the Celestial Mean and fall into one of the two extreams It shall not be amisse while we seek to divert their course from Sylla to admonish lest they make shipwrack in Charybdis CAP. IV. Shewing the Mean betwixt the two Extremities the one in Excesse proper to the Papists the other in Defect proper to the Anti-papist 1 IT is a Rule in Logick that Two contrary Propositions for their form may be both False And hence it is that many Controversers of our times either in love to the Cause they defend or heat of contention not content only to Contradict but desirous to be most Contrarie to their Adversaries fal into Errour with them No Controversie almost of greater moment this day extant but yields Experiments of this Observation though none more plentiful then this in hand concerning the visible Churches Authoritie or Obedience due to Spiritual Pastours 2 The Papists on the one side demand Infallible Assent and illimited Obedience unto whatsoever the Church shall propose without examination of her Doctrine or appeal which is indeed as we shall afterwards prove to takeaway all the Authority of Gods Word and to erect the present Churches Consistorie above Moses and S. Peters Chair On the other side sundrie by profession Protestants in eagernesse of opposition to the Papists affirm that the Church or Spiritual Pastors must then only be Believed then only be Obeyed when they give Sentence according to the Evident and Expresse Law of God made evident to the Hearts and Consciences of such as must Believe and Obey them And this in one word is to take away all Authoritie of Spiritual Pastors and to deprive them of all Obedience unto whom doubtlesse God by his written Word hath given some special Authoritie and Right to exact some peculiar Obedience of their Flock Now if the Pastor be then only to be Obeyed when he brings evident Commission out of Scripture for those particulars unto which he demands Belief or Obedience
men in all points They would judge it damnable presumption for the most learned amongst their Laitie to professe as great skil in the Canons of their Church as their Cardinals Bishops Abbats or other principal Members of it either have or make shew of a great presumption of Heresie in any of their Flock to discusse the Meaning of their Decretals as accurately as their Canonists or sift other Mysteries of their Religion as narrowly as the Casuists do Should one of their greatest Philosophers that were no Clergy-man or profest Divine professe he knew the Meaning of that Canon in the Trent-Councel Sacramenta conferunt gratiam ex opere operato as wel as Soto Valentian or Vasques did Suarez or other their greatest School-men in Spain or Italy now living do it would breed as dangerous a Quarrel in their Inquisition as if he had entred comparison with a Rabbin in a Jewish Synagogue for skil in expounding Moses Law 9 That the Scriptures therefore may be said a sufficient Rule of Faith and Christian Carriage to all sorts or Conditions of Men it is sufficient that every Christian man of what sort or Condition soever may have the general and necessary Points of Catholick Faith and such Particulars as belong unto a Christian and Religious Carriage in his own Vocation perspicuously and plainly set down in them And no doubt but it was Gods Wil to have them in matters concerning one calling not so facile unto such as were of another Profession that every man might hence learn Sobriety and be occasioned to seek if not only yet principally after the true Sense and Meaning of those Scriptures which either necessarily concern all or must direct him in that Christian Course of life whereunto his God hath called him But shal this Difficulty of some Parts which ariseth from the Diversitie of Vocations be thought any hinderance why the whole Canon of Scripture should not be a perfect Rule to all in their several Vocations Suppose some universal Artist or compleat Cyclopedian should set out an absolute System or Rule for all secular sciences it would be ridiculous exception to say his Works could be no perfect Rule for young Grammarians Rhetoricians Logicians or Moralists because he had some difficult Mathematical Questions or abstruse Metaphysical discourses which would require a grounded schollers serious Pains and long search to understand them throughly and if he should admonish young students to begin first with those common and easie Arts and not to meddle with the other until they had made good trial of their Wit and Industrie in the former this would be a good token of a perfect Teacher and one sit to rule our Course in all those studies which he professeth And yet the Scriptures which the Jesuites would not have acknowledged for the rule of Christian Life besides all the infallible rules of Life and salvation common to all admonish every man to seek after the Knowledge of such things as are most for Edifying or most besitting his particular Calling 10 And even in S. Pauls Epistles which are the Common Places of our Adversaries invention in this Argument after he comes to direct his speeches as in the later end of them usualy he doth unto Masters of Families servants or the like or generally where he speaks of any Christian dutie either private or publick his Rules are as plain and easie to all men in this Age as they were to those Housholders or servants or the like unto whom they were first directed So plain and easie they are unto all Ages and so familiar especially to men of meaner Place that I much doubt whether the Pope himself and all his Cardinals were able in this present Age to speak so plainly unto the Capacitie or so familiarly to the Experience of men of their Qualitie unto whom he wrote For setting aside the absolute Truth and Infallibilitie of his Doctrines his manner of delivering them is so familiar so lowly so heartily humble so natural and so wel befitting such mens disposition in their sober thoughts as were impossible for the Pope to attain unto or imitate unlesse he would abjure his triple Crown and abstract himself from all Court state or solace unlesse he would for seven years addict himself unto Familiaritie with such men in a Pastoral Charge It was was an excellent Admonition of one of their Cardinals if I mistake not and would to God our Church would herein be admonished by him to begin alwayes with the later end of S. Pauls Epistles For once well experienced in them we should easily attain unto the true sense and meaning of the former Parts which usually are doctrinal and therefore more difficult then the later Yet the true reason of those difficulties in the former Parts containing doctrine is because he wrote them against the disputers of that Age especially the Jews Even in this Age they are only seen in matters that concern learned Expositors of Scriptures not necessary for private and unlearned persons to know And the especial reason why his doctrine in some Epistles as in the Epistle to the Romans seems obscure difficult and intricate is because learned men of later Times have too much followed the Authorities of men in former Ages who had examined S. Pauls doctrine according to the rule or Phrase of those Arts or Faculties with which they were best acquainted or else had measured his Controversie with the Jews by the Oppositions or Contentions of the Age wherein they lived Were this Partialitie unto some famous mens Authoritie which indeed is made a chief rule in expounding Scriptures even by many such as in words are most earnest to have Scriptures the only rule of Faith once laid aside and the rules of Faith else-where most perspicuously and plainly set down by S. Paul unpartially scan ned his Doctrine in that Epistle would be so perspicuous and easie unto the Learned as it might by them be made plain enough and unoffensive to the Unlearned For the light of Truth elsewhere delivered by this Lamp of the Gentiles might it be admitted as a Rule against some Expositions of that Epistle would direct mens steps to avoid those stumbling Blocks which many have fallen upon But to conclude this Assertion their Difficultie take them as they are is no just Exception against this Part of Scripture because it remains difficult stil even for this reason that it is held generally for difficult and is not made a rule indeed for our directions but other mens Opinions or Conjectures concerning it are taken for an Authentick Rubrick by whose level only we must aim at our Apostles Meaning from which we may not without imputations of Irregularitie swerve in the decision of Points to say no worse as now they are made hard and knottie 11 Thirdly from the diversitie of Capacities or different Measure of Gods Gifts in men of the same Profession we may safely conclude that the difficulty of the same Portion
brest He may by his own followers Consession be as incorrigible for bad Life and Manners as infallible for matters of Doctrine Seeing then their supposed Rule cannot remove those Impediments which detain the Jews with other Infidels and Hereticks from the Truth can it make men Believe aright whilest They remain If it can it is of greater force then either our Saviours Authority or skil in Scriptures Neither of which not all his travels and best endeavours here on earth though infinitely surpassing any pains the Pope is willing to take could instruct the Jews in the Doctrine of Faith whilest their carnal Affections remained in strength How can ye Believe saith he who spake as never man spake and had wrought those Works none other could which receive honour one of another and seek not the honour that cometh 〈◊〉 God alone 14 To conclude then If the Infidelity of the Jews be any just exception why Scriptures cannot be the perfect Rule of Faith this Exception will disinable the Roman Churches infallible Authoritie for being such a Rule But if the general Error of the Jews in the very main Foundation of Religion be no just Exception why either the Scripture according to us or the Churches Authority according to them should not be the Rule of Faith then cannot the Errors of Hereticks or varietie of Opinions about the sense and Meaning of particular places of lesse moment impeach the sufficiencie of Scripture for performing all that is required by either Partie in their supposed absolute Rule For it shall God willing be made evident in due place that the self same Affections onely different in degree sometimes not so much which caused the Jews Insidelitie in our Saviours time are the onely roots and fountains of Heresies and Dissentions throughout all Ages 15 And as elsewhere is already proved wheresoever the habitual Affection for degree and qualitie is the Heresie or Insidelitie is likewise the same even in such as hold contrary Opinions and would perhaps maintain their contrarietie unto death for as many strongly perswaded of their Belief in Christ shall go for Infidels in that last day so may such as think themselves Orthodoxes be tainted with the contrarie Heresie which they impugne if subject to the same Affections which did breed it But for us to account such as make profession of Christianitie Insidels or such as subscribe to Orthodoxal Doctrine Hereticks would be injurious and unlawfull not because the former Assertion indesinitely taken is not warrantable but because no man can precisely discern the Indentitie of inward Affection save he alone that knoweth the secrets of all hearts Thus all the Blasts of vain Doctrine they can oppose unto the Truth we maintain do in the issue fasten the roots of Faith once rightly planted howsoever they may shake the timerous or faint-hearted Christian or cause the weak in Faith not cleaving to Scripture as their onely infallible Rule and sure Supporter dangerously to reel and stagger But though they fall yet Gods Word shall never fail to approve it self a most perfect Rule besides others in these Two respects First in that none can fail in that course which it prescribes or fall away from Faith but by such means as the Jew hath done the true Causes of whose Apostacie and incredulitie it hath expresly foretold and fully registred to Posterity Secondly because such as it doth not no other Rule Means or Authority possible either in the earth or in the region below the earth shall ever win to true Christian Faith CAP. XXIII The Suffficiencie of Scriptures for Final Determination of Controversies in Religion proved by our Saviours and his Apostles Authority and Practise 1 NOr will They be ruled by an Angel from Heaven That will not obey the live Voice of the Son of God whose Miracles whilest he lived here on earth joyned with his Doctrine we will suppose were of as much force if the Jesuite will grant no more as the Popes Proposal of Scriptures to beget Faith or convince gain-sayers of Truth The Jews were of diverse Opinions about his Doctrine Some said he was a good man Others said No but he deceiveth the People he gives them a Rule as you heard before how to discern it If any man will do his will he shall know of the Doctrine c. This contents them not albeit he had done many and good works amongst them sufficient to have manifested his Divine Authority unto such as had never heard of Moses or a Messias to come Nay they go about to kill him for those works which bare Testimonie of his Worth and as they thought had Warrant of Scripture for so doing because he did them on the Sabbath day Here Christ is of one Opinion the Jews of another concerning the Sense of Scripture Who shall judge or by what Rule must their contrary Doctrine be tried By Christs infallible Authoritie they admit it not By extraordinary and miraculous Works they persecute him for his Miracles already wrought for their peoples good Doth Christ here leave them because destitute of a Rule to recall them If he had none how shall the Pope by his own challenge but his Vicar have any to convince his Adversaries It Christ submit his Divine Doctrine to any other Rule how dare the Pope deny submission of his to the same What Rule then was left Onely the Scripture which both 〈◊〉 acknowledge They pretend Moses Law concerning Sabbath-breach why he should die unto their false interpretation of this our Saviour opposed the true meaning of another Mosaical Scripture Moses forbad Murther as well as Sabbath-day-breaking and yet they seek to kill Christ only for Fealing a man upon the Sabbath-day so forgetfull are they of the One and so partially addicted to the Other But how shall they know that to make a man whole upon the Sabbath was not to break it and violate Moses Law This our Saviour makes evident unto them by exposition of that Law and their own Custom which continued from the first promulgation was a good interpretation of it Moses saith our Saviour gave unto you Circumcision not because it is of Moses but of the Fathers and ye on the Sabbath-day circumcise a man If a man on the Sabbath-day receive Circumcision that the Law of Moses should not be broken be ye angrie with me because I have made a man every whit whole 〈◊〉 the Sabbath-day Judge not according to the appearance but judge righteous judgement Thus was Scripture applied to their Conscience the last and finall Rule by which they stand or fall and is alwayes a Light either bringing men to see their own Salvation or putting out their wonted sight in token of their Condemnation to utter darknesse And Christs last words in that Controversie Judge not according to the appearance are likewise a written Rule of Scripture so absolute a Rule is this Sacred Word of God by our Saviours consent and practise both to inform the
such as dissented from your Church as a ●opting or pruning to cause ours flourish and hath at length set the Israel of God at libertie from Aegyptian Slavery 3 But supposing this violent Course upon great exigence of circumstances either in the Matter Manner or Times of Contentions to be both lawfull and expedient yet could not the ordinarie Practise of it be more effectuall to restrain men from contradicting then it might be to enforce them to oppugne the Truth It might according to the diverse dispositions of such as manage it be a Means one way or other alike forcible either to retain men in Heresie Idolatrie and Infidelitie or in the Unitie of true and livelie Faith albeit Fear alone may make men perfect Hereticks or Infidels but not inwardly or sincerely Faithfull 4 And as for our Church albeit she search not so narrowly into the secrets of every mans conscience nor be so tyrannically jealous of every Word that might be ill interpreted nor so outragiously cruel in punishing known dissention from her or discovered Errour yet God be praised she hath Pauls Sword as well as yours which our Magistrate bears not in vain but can unsheath it when need requires against such as are open and evident abetters of Contentions unlesse perhaps you will except that it hath not been so much exercised in cutting you off from amongst us who are the Ringleaders of all division debate and Trouble in our Church as it might be according to your Doctrine If in the Practise of this coactive Authoritie over contentious Spirits there be any fault God amend it for in our Churches Doctrine concerning this Point there is none and God grant our Magistrates may Practise as our faithfull Pastors teach whose Doctrine is that this External as well as the Internal Power is given for Edification not for destruction and must be directed by the same Rule that the Use and Practise of it must be limited by the End that the End of it is by Injunction of things Good and Prohibition of Evil to proportion mens Actions and Conversations to the Rule of Faith and Law of God that so every member of the Common-wealth thus wrought and fashioned by the coactive Power may be more easily transformed into a member of Christ as being more apt and pliable for the Word of Life to work upon Nor are we so precisely wedded to any determinate course for quelling or preventing contentious Schismes or Heresies but we may admit what other soever time shall detect more effectual for attaining the former End unto which our love is such as will not suffer us dislike any Means allied to it though having affinitie with your Church Part of whose external discipline we are not ashamed to use unto good because by you abused to bad and wicked Purposes But for your Churches Practise in the use of your best Means for avoiding all Contentions you plead no Infallibilitie therein you may fail as well as we and the Question now is about our Doctrine 5 Out of that which hath been said our Means for punishing such as we know to be contentious appears as good as yours whose use so far as we like it is as free for us as for your selves let us now see whether we have Means as good or as infallible as yours to discerne who are contentious 6 For the Popes Infallibilitie whether it be any or no we are anone to enquire and we may not in this place give you leave to prejudice our Church with the supposal of it Nor do your selves make this discretion of conten●ous Spirits any essential part thereof 7 None of you that I have read doth attribute any Prophetical Spirit to the Pope in this Case as if he could descrie the storms of Contentions which might cause shipwrack of Faith before they arise as far off as E●… did the Rain when it first began to gather into a cloud like a mans hand The excellencie of his Infallibilitie by your own Positions if I mistake not consists in the decisions of Controversies brought unto him not in the discovery or finding out of such as breed Contention But doth he vouch safe to decide all Controversies that arise in his Dominions albeit brought unto him Vix vacat exiguis rebus adesse Jovi The exercise of this Dominus Deus vester plenarie Power is much like the use of the Heathen Gods upon the old Roman Stage Nec Deus intersit nisi nodus vindice dignus Inciderit Unlesse it be to loose some Gordian knot The Popes decision is not eas'ly got And where it is got it goes no farther then to the just and infallible censure of the Opinion it self in punishing the Authors or abetters of adjudged Heresies or Schismes he may erre as well as we because herein he goes but by the Information of private men who neither are so absolute●y Holy but they may prove partial nor so Wise and skilfull alwayes but they may erre in their Information especially where it goes successively from ear to ear and from one Countrey Dialect to another as drink from vessel to vessel always losing some part of its proper and native Sapor so that it may relish otherwise to his Holinesse mouth then it did at the first setting abroach by the Authour 8 And seeing the best Means to avoid Contention is the just punishment of them that causelesly cause them your Churches Authority being herein so much more obnoxious to Errour and Misinformation as her Diocesse is larger lesse uniforme or more remote is liable to many Exceptions from which such little ones as she out of her greatnesse contemns are free Nor is the Question as you bear the simple in hand betwixt Publick and Private Spirits but between your private men and ours as whether yours can better disc●●● who are contentious thorowout your vast Precincts then ours who are such amongst us at home That no man should dissent from the Doctrine of the Catholick Church you all agree Some of you dissent from it as most of their fellows think who yet will not professe but rather seek to cloak their dissent either with colours of Consonance or pretended reasons of no Repugnance unto Catholick Tenents Catharinus will defend the Councel of Trent and yet hold Certainty of Salvation Soto and Bellarmin reprove him but how could either of them discern whether Catharinus had the true Meaning of the Trent Councel or not Catharinus I take it had a Suffrage in making those Decrees whereof neither Soto nor Bellarmin were allowed much lesse Authentick Interpreters for the Popes Bull confirming that Councel prohibits all private Interpretations of it yet hath not the Pope or any Publick Authoritie since that time condemned Catharinus for this dissention How knew Maldonate that Jansenius Hesselius and others which deny that Christs Words in the sixth of John are to be understood of Sacramental eating did varie from the received Doctrine of your Church and jump
affirm he may be an Heretick or a Son of Satan although it were true he could not propose an Heresie to be Believed yet is there no shew of Truth why he may not be so maliciously bent as he wil not vouchsafe actually to determin that for Heresie in others which in his judgement as he is a Doctor or private man is very orthodoxal thus doing he should go against his own Conscience to give Sentence Gods Spirit as they say wil guide his Tongue when or whilest he speaks ex cathedra But an evil Spirit may so work upon his Affections that he shal not come in good time so to speak especially against that Opinion which in his private Conscience he holds for true This I think none of them can deny 4 Now whilest these doubts stand unsatisfied and ye without further assurance of his Infallibility in deciding Controversies then only this Hypothetical or conditional if he speaks ex cathedra all the comfort which the Christian World perplexed with the variety of Opinions and diversities of Sects can reap from these fair promises of the Jesuites concerning their Church or Popes infallible Authority is but as if a man should say unto a Husbandman doubtful upon the uncertaintie of Weather when to sow or reap tush be of good cheer you shall certainly know what season is good what not for Seed-time and Harvest when the man in the Moon sets forth an Almanack Veritas hypotheticae propositionis saith old Javel nihil ponit in crumena Many die with fewer pounds in their purses then Arguments in their heads sufficient to prove the Truth of this conditional Proposition If I had five thousand pounds I should be a wealthy man In like manner if this be all the assurance their infallible Rule can afford us That a general Councel if lawfully assembled or the Pope if he speak ex cathedra cannot possibly erre The most pestiferous and noisome Heresies that now infect the Church may perhaps be quelled some hundred years after all now alive be dead When the Pope wil call a Councel or consult his Chair GOD knows what manner of Resolutions were to be expected if either should happen we may conjecture by their wonted Practise which is thus 5 After a Councel is called the Major part being made to serve their Makers turn for of Bishops the most must be the Popes new creatures the rest must subscribe to their Decrees usually set forth in the weather Wizards language and their sceptick School-men appointed to riddle out some good meaning that may save their Prelates Credit In the mean time the Pope and his Cardinals may follow their pleasures take their ease and with it the dreaming Captains Motto Tot urbes capio dormiens ac vigilans We take up as many Controversies we edifie the Church as much sleeping as waking If no tolerable interpretation of their doubtful Decisions can be found yet a good sense must be Believed and private Spirits may not peremptorily avouch that the Councel meant this or that but only it meant the best and this we take to be the best and therefore we think it meant thus but with humble submission to their infallible Authority All this while the Sectaries so they term us must be set to prove Negatives as that there can be no true Meaning in those speeches which may have twenty But if out of their School-mens Wranglings who can better seek out then follow the truth found any interpretation or manner of Tenet can be found which may yield advantage to them or prejudice to their Adversaries about some hundred years after perhaps when they have light on a Pope and Cardinals whose wits and they once in their life-times meet a Decision may be had upon this Opportunity of seeming advantage And yet the Catholick Church during this hundred or perhaps two hundred years of her silence must be supposed to have held perpetually the self-same Tenet which this private man hath bolted out of late albeit neither he nor any particular member thereof did know as much yea though five heads of the Church and as many principal members five successions of Popes Cardinals and Bishops have died in the mean time no one of which in all their lives did trouble their thoughts with any such matter and whilest both their Schoolmens private speculations and their publick Practise have witnessed the contrary Was the Doctrine of Justification and Merits held by any of their Doctors heretofore as the later Jesuites have refined them Did any of their Popes and Councels determin of their manner of Worshipping Images as Vasquez hath of late And yet I think if the Pope should be driven to a Decision of this Question he would define as Vasquez hath done so extraordinary is the Approbation of his Apologie for Imagery as if It likewise were worthy of Adoration And if this Pope should so determin it you must think that all his Predecessours were of the same Opinion if they had been asked cundem sensum tenuit semper mater Ecclesia 6 But what is most strange That Church may for five six or twelve hundred years and more use a Translation justly suspicious as for many other Reasons so for this That of the divers Authors thereof some we know not others we know too wel and yet when a Councel after so long time shal meet every mans work found very authentick Some learned Papists have been perswaded that their vulgar Translators were docti à Deo omnes all assisted by the Holy Ghost in their Translations But Bellarmin thinks this Opinion too charitable for so they must grant that Theodotion the Heretick the undoubted Author of some parts of that Edition was infallibly assisted by the Holy Ghost If he were not how is that part of their Vulgar which they have from him authentick and true Though erre he might as being a private man or rather a publick Heretick Dicimus tamen eum non errasse in ea translatione quam approbavit Ecclesia yet we say saith Bellarmin but I hope no wise man wil so think that he did not erre in that Translation which the Church hath approved I see then it is all one whether the Holy Ghost do assist the Translatour whilest he is about his work or the Pope his Translation after it be finished and He dead nor doth it skil how he were Qualified whilest he lived either for Integrity Wit or Learning the Cause is all one as in the Pope himself who may as freely bestow this particular gift of not erring in Translations upon whom he please without all respect of good Qualities as Saint Peter did that transcendent donative of absolute Infallibility upon him and his Successors Saint Jeroms Translation had laudable Testimonies of Antiquity yet not generally received in his time onely prejudiced by the Newnesse of it and Antiquity of the Italick But whose is the Vulgar or how first came it in request It is saith Bellarmine
with the corrupt remainder of former heresies for these thousand years and more And unto many grosse errours in Romish religion which this imperfect translation did not first occasion It yet affords that countenance which the pure Fountains of the Greek and Hebrew do not but rather would scour and wipe away were they current in that Church Finally though it yield not nutriment to enlarge or feed yet it serves as a cloak to hide or cover most parts of the great mysterie of iniquity 6 Yet besides the favourable construction that may be made for that religion out of the plain and literal sense of this erroneous translation the Church wil be absolute Judge of all controversies concerning the right interpretation thereof So as not what our consciences upon diligent search and just examination shall witnesse to us but what the Church shall declare to them must be absolutely acknowledged for the true intent and meaning of Gods word as it is rendred by the vulgar interpreter To this purpose is the very next decree 7 Moreover for brideling petulant dispositions it is decreed That no man in confidence of his own wisdom or skill in matters of faith and manners making for the edification of Christian doctrine shall dare to interpret Scriptures wresting them to his own conceipt or sense against that sense or meaning which the holy Church our mother to whom it belongs to judge of the true sense and interpretation of sacred writ heretofore hath held or now doth hold albeit he never purpose to publish such interpretations 8 It is further added in the same place because I take it had been specified in a Synod before that no man shall dare to interpret Scriptures against the unanimous consent of Fathers Which I think were impossible for any man to do though were it possible few or none would attempt besides the Papists For neither can it be known what all of them hold in most places whereupon are grounded controversies of greatest moment and in such as we have best plenty of their interpretations albeit they do not contentiously dissent yet absolutely agree each with other they do not Even one and the same Father oft-times thinks of many interpretations sundry alike probable most of them unwilling by their peremptory determinations one way or other to prejudice the industrious search of others though their far inferiours for finding out some more commodious then any they bring oftentimes intimating their doubts or imperfect conjectures in such manner as if they would purposely incourage their successours to seek out some better resolution then they could find Whence it is evident That we should not alwayes interpret Scriptures against the joynt consent of Fathers albeit we went against all the particular interpretations which they have brought because they were more desirous to have the truth fully sifted then their conjectural probabilities infallibly believed Nor were it possible more to contradict most of them then by following their interpretations upon such strict terms as the Romanists would bind all men to do when they seem to make for their advantage Not the least surmise or conjecture of any one Father but if it please them must suffice against the joynt authority of all the rest For in all the three points above mentioned they admit the Church as may appear from the decrees cited for a Judge so absolute That no man may imbrace any opinion upon what grounds or probabilities soever but with humble submission to her censure Whatsoever she shall injoyn in all or any of these points albeit we have reasons many and strong not to hold it to hold not one besides her bare authority yet must all believe it alone as absolutely as if we had the apparent unanimous consent of Fathers yea of Prophets Apostles or Evangelists and all good writers in every age 9 Hence Bellarmin rejects as dissonant to the former decree this resolution of Luther That albeit the Pope and Councel conclude points of Faith yet have private men a free arbitrement so far as it concerns themselves whether they may safely believe their conclusions or no. Luther gives two reasons for his assertion both most forcible The one because the Pope shall not answer for private men at the hour of their death The other because none are competent Judges of false Doctrines but men spiritually minded when as it often fals out that in their Councels there cannot the found one man much lesse a major part of men without which how many soever there were all were as none that hath any the least relish of the Divine Spirit The like assertion doth the Jesuit condemn in Brentius 10 It is not lawful saith Brentius for any man in a point of salvation so to rely upon anothers sentence as to imbrace it without interposition of his own judgement The reason is there intimated because every man is to be immediately judged by his own conscience and may for avoiding the just censure of condemnation by it safely disclaim their opinions the execution of whose sentence or bodily punishment he may not decline seeing they are as was observed before publick and lawful yet Fallible Judges of controversies in Religion And Bellarmin bewrayes either grosse ignorance or great skil in wrangling when he exclaims against this position of Brentius as absurd and repugnant to it self That the Supream Magistrate or publick Judge may be bound to command where the subject or inferiour is not bound to obey For as well the Prince in commanding as the people in obeying must follow whither their consciences lead them Both may and in case they disagree the one or other cannot but erre in the precedent information of their consciences and herein properly doth their sin consist not in doing what erroneous conscience upon so strict terms as penalty of eternal death doth unnecessarily urge them to 11 The people saith Canus did absolutely not upon condition believe God and his servant Moses and unlesse men So believe the Church they make it of no authority Nor is it enough to believe it to be Infallible in points of Moment or such as might overthrow Faith unlesse it be acknowledged so absolutely inerrable in all as it cannot either believe or teach amisse in any question of Faith for if in any seeing there is one and the same reason of all it might as wel fail in receiving some books indeed not such for Canonical and Divine Whereupon it would follow that this argument would not follow The Church acknowledgeth Saint Matthews Gospel for Canonical therefore it is Canonical The denial of which consequence is most impious and absurd in this mans censure fully consonant to Valentian before cited That Scripture which is commended unto us and expounded by the Authority of the Church is now even in this respect because the Church commends it most authentick 12 Unto these and far more grosse conclusions all their modern Writers for ought
the true Papists are wise enough to slip the third or last so as it shall not pinch them and have a trick withall to make the First yeeld what way they please who are resolved to follow what way soever it shall please the Popes Authority whereunto their souls indeed are onely tied to lead them But of such as ever had or hope to have any tast or relish of Gods Spirit if any should resolve absolutely to believe his interpretation of any place of Scripture contrary to that life-working sence which must be in every heart endued with hope of seeing God that mans disloyalty towards God and his Holy Spirit is as impudent as if a poor subject should replie unto his Prince commanding him in expresse termes to do thus or so I will not believe your words have any such meaning as they naturally import but a contrary such as one of my fellow-servants hath already acquainted me withall whatsoever you say I know your meaning is I should believe him in all things concerning your will and pleasure and whatsoever he shall enjoyn that will I do 8 That neither the Church can prove the Scriptures nor the Scriptures the Churches Authoritie was proved in the fourth Section of the former Book That such as hold this damnable Doctrine against which we dispute do not at all believe God speaking in the Scriptures shall be evinced in the third Section of this The present inconvenience which now will they nill they we are to wrest from their resolutions of faith is That in deed and conscience they either acknowledge no Authoritie in the Church or Scriptures or else greater in the Church then in Scriptures CAP. III. Inferring the general conclusion proposed in the Title of this Section from Bellarmines Resolution of faith 1 ASwell to occasion the learned Readers further consideration of their ill-grounded and worse builded faith as for deducing thence the proposed inconvenience it will not be amisse to propose Bellarmines resolution of a Roman Catholicks faith One especial Objection of our Writers as he frameth it is That Faith if depending on the Churches judgement is grounded but upon the word of man a weake foundation for such an Edifice that the Scripture was given by the Spirit of God and must therefore be understood by the same not by the Churches Spirit Hereunto Bellarmine answereth The word of the Church 〈◊〉 of the Councel or the Pope speaking ex Cathedra is not the bare word of man He means no word obnoxious to errour but in some sort the Word of God in as much as it is uttered by the assistance and Government of the Holy Ghost I adde saith he that Hereticks are they which indeed do lean upon a brokenreed For we must know that a proposition of Faith must be concluded in this or the like S●llogisme Whatsoever God hath revealed in Scripture is true but God hath revealed this or that in Scriptures Ergo this or that is true The first proposition in this Syllogisme is certain amongst all the second likewise amongst Catholicks is most firm as being supported by the testimonie of the Church Councel or Pope of whose immunity from possibilitie of erring we have expresse promises in the Scriptures as It hath seemed good to the Holy Ghost and us I have prayed for thee thy faith should not fail But amongst Hereticks the second or minor proposition is grounded onely on conjecture or judgement of a private Spirit which usually seems but is not good Whence seeing the conclusion must follow the weaker part it necessarily followes that all the faith of Hereticks such in his language are all that will not relie upon the Church is but conjectural and uncertain 2 A dreadfull imputation could it be as substantially proved as it is confidently avouched And the consequence of his resolution generally held by all his fellows is of no lesse importance then this That no man can be infallibly assured either of the truth or true sence of any particular proposition in the whole Canon of Scriptures received by us and them unlesse he have the Churches Authority for confirmation of both For unto us that onely which the Church avoucheth is certain and unfallible that sence of it which the Church gives onely sound if we speak of any particular or determinate truths 3 How certain and unfallible Assent unto all or any Scriptures may be wrought in mens hearts without any infallible teacher already hath been and hereafter shal be God willing in more particular sort exemplified In this place it stood the Jesuite upon to have given a better solution to the doubt objected which he is so far from unloosing that he rather knits it faster as shal appear if the Reader wil first cal to mind That for the establishing of firm and undoubted assent to any truth proposed it skils not how infallible the truth in it self or the proposer be unlesse they whose Relief or Assent is demanded be as infallibly perswaded of this Infallibility in the truth or the proposer In this respect our adversaries plead their immunity from errour as an Article necessary to be infallibly Believed for confirmation of Gods Word alwayes most infallible as all grant in it self but not so as they affirm to us until it be avouched by Infallible authority 4 Herein they concur with us Both with the truth That if we believe it only as probable that God spake all those words which we acknowledge to be most infallible because his our belief notwithstanding is not infallible but probable or conjectural For as a man may have bad desires of things essentially good so may he have uncertain perswasions of truthes in themselves most certain It is not therefore the supposed Infallibility of the Church or Pope howsoever but infallibly apprehended and believed that must strengthen our faith which otherwise as is pretended would be but conjectural And by the former principle acknowledged as wel by them as us it necessarily follows that if we be only probably not infallibly perswaded the Pope or Church cannot erre our assent unto the minor proposition i. unto any determinate part of Gods Word is only probable not Infallible For by the Jesuites Doctrine we cannot be certainly perswaded that God spake this or that but by the Churches testimony The immediate consequence of which two assertions compared together is we cannot be more certain that God hath spoken this or that then we are of the Churches Infallibility If then we be only probably not infallibly perswaded that the Church is infallible our Belief of the minor proposition that is of any determinate truth which men suppose God hath spoken must be only probable or conjectural not infallible Consequently to these collections the learned Papists generaly hold that the Churches Infallibility must be absolutely and infallibly believed as you heard before out of Canus Bellarmin and Valentian otherwise as Bellarmin would infer our Belief of the Minor in any
Evangelist and led him to Caiaphas the High Priest where the Scribes and Elders were gathered together And lest a Jesuite should have picked a quarrel at the time of their assembly as if they had met at some unlawful hour Saint Luke saith as soon as it was day the Elders of the people and the High Priests and the Scribes came together and led him into their Councel and examined him upon the very fundamental point of faith Saying art thou The Christ tell us For affirming this which is open infidelity to deny the High Priest himself not missed by any witnesses but from Christs own words which he himself had heard pronounceth sentence against him And if this were not enough he proposed the matter to the rest of his associates What think ye and they answered and said He is worthy to die After all this they urged the people to approve of this their Sentence perswading them to ask Barrabas and to destroy Jesus And so strongly had they conjured the multitude by their pretended authority that they apprehend this their choice as a point of faith or good service to God and his Church For when Pilate laieth his bloud unto their charge All the people as the Text saith all such as relied upon the Scribes Pharisees or their high Priests answered and said His bloud be upon us and our children One of your lay Papists could not have been more throughly perswaded of your Churches authority nor more violently bent against John Hus or any other of Christs Martyrs for the like reasons then this whole multitude was against Christ being condemned by the High Priest speaking ex Cathedra Here were more conditions and more solemnities observed in this proceeding of theirs then you require in the Pope speaking ex Cathedra Theirs was a publick assembly and sentence was given by joynt consent in the Consistory and in the morning you hold it sufficient for the Pope to give his desinitive sentence alone without evidence of the fact it self whereunto he ties mens faith as shal appear by your own confessions Nor do you limit him any time as wel in the afternoon as in the forenoon as wel for ought we can gather when drink is in and his wits out of his head as when he is sober For you hold it not necessary for him to use any long deliberation But if it be his wil to bind all Christians to believe him the whole Church must believe that he was herein directed by the Holy Ghost for the Church is bound to hear their chief Pastor And if he bind all men to believe him then must all of necessity believe that he was infallibly assisted by the Holy Ghost in shewing that which he binds them to believe for otherwise the whole Church might erre nay were bound to erre because it is bound to believe the Pope These consequents are your own not mine as may in part appear from what hath been already more fully from what shal be said hereafter Besides the whole multitude of the Jewish people heard the Priests and Elders utter their opinions concerning Christ and his doctrine viva voce we have the Popes decrees but by hear-say Either was this sentence pronounced ex Cathedra or else it wil be hard for you to prove that any sentence in your Church hath been so pronounced or can be although the Pope himself be present in the Councel and be an eye witnesse of all proceedings 8 Yet if any of you should here shufle as ye usually do at the last pinch and say Howsoever Valentia or some others of our learned but private spirits may define what it is to speak ex Cathedra yet we know not whether our Church hath so desined it or no and therefore although these High Priests and Elders did observe all the circumstances which these doctors require in a sentence given ex Cathedra yet for ought we know they might ●ay sure they did fail in some circumstance which we know not and did not indeed speak ex Cathedra albeit they seemed so to do wherefore this doth not conclude against the Popes infallible authority when he speaks ex Cathedra if any of you shall take this last hold as I cannot imagin any other left you we shal quickly beat you out of it For let it be granted for disputations sake that the Pope hath as ye suppose these Jews had an infallible authority when he speaks ex Cathedra yet seeing it is a matter so hard to be known even by these that hear him whether he observe all circumstances required to the exercise and true use of such infallible authority and whether he speak ex Cathedra or no when he may seem to sundry so to speak it would be the only safe course for all Christian Churches utterly to renounce all obedience to him but upon examination of his doctrine to stand continually upon their guard lest under pretence of this his infallible authority when he speaks ex Cathedra he may work some such inestimable mischief unto the Scriptures or Christs chosen here on earth as these High Priests did unto Christ himself by his seeming to speak ex Cathedra when he doth not If by abusing this his infallible authority he should either make away these Scriptures or animate the people to imbrue their hands in the bloud of Christs dearest Saints it is not his speaking ex Cathedra that can redeem their souls from hell nor restore Gods word again for these are matters of an higher price then that they should be purchased with two or three words of his Holinesse unhallowed mouth 9 To conclude if this authority of your Church be but such as the ancient Church of the Jews had you cannot expect any faithful people should otherwise esteem of your decrees then the faithful in our Saviours time were bound to esteem of the Jewish High Priests and Elders whom surely they did not take for Christs only nor best friends If the Popes infallibility be but such as these High Priests had you may be as guilty of the bloud of Christs Saints as they were If you wil challenge as indeed you do greater authority then they had ye must of necessity renounce your principal arguments brought to prove it CAP. XVI That Moses had no such absolute authority as is now ascribed unto the Pope That the manner of Moses his attaining to such as he had excludes all besides our saviour from just challenge of the like 1 WHether Moses were a Magistrate as the Papists think spiritual or as others meerly civil or whereunto upon grounds in due places to be discussed I most incline actually neither and virtually both it wil suffice for proof of our conclusion that the Pope is no servant of God but an adversary in that he exalts himself above Moses whom none besides the High Priest and sole Mediator of the new covenant was to equalize in soveraignty over Gods people