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not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d word_n species_n but_o effigy_n say_v panis_n non_fw-fr effigy_n sed_fw-la 〈◊〉_d mutatus_fw-la etc._n etc._n bread_n change_v not_o in_o the_o effigy_n 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o nature_n be_v by_o the_o omnipotency_n of_o his_o word_n 〈◊〉_d his_o flesh_n now_o though_o we_o shall_v grant_v your_o 〈◊〉_d
send_v unto_o protestant_n and_o by_o they_o print_v respon_n 2._o de_fw-fr inuocatione_n sanctorum_fw-la they_o defend_v transubstantiation_n ibid._n resp_n 1._o c._n 13._o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n for_o the_o sick_a gilbert_n genebrard_n de_fw-fr ritibus_fw-la graecorum_n second_o concern_v primacy_n of_o jurisdiction_n they_o hold_v that_o christ_n do_v institute_v monarchical_a primacy_n in_o peter_n theophilact_n in_o cap._n 21._o joan._n that_o the_o roman_a bistop_n for_o many_o age_n lawful_o succeed_v peter_n in_o this_o primacy_n ignatius_n constantinopolitan_n epist._n ad_fw-la nicolaum_n primum_fw-la that_o the_o roman_a bishop_n lose_v this_o primacy_n for_o hold_v the_o procession_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o god_n the_o son_n &_o that_o therefore_o this_o primacy_n be_v now_o in_o the_o patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n michael_n constant._n apud_fw-la sigeb_n in_o chron._n a_o 1064._o be_v this_o protestancy_n in_o substance_n three_o it_o be_v great_a 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they_o hold_v all_o minister_n to_o be_v damn_v that_o have_v rent_n and_o possession_n and_o that_o the_o church_n perish_v under_o sylvester_n and_o constantine_n through_o the_o poison_n of_o temporal_a good_n which_o cleargyman_n then_o begin_v to_o enjoy_v as_o they_o say_v against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n i_o be_o sure_a none_o that_o know_v protestant_n will_v think_v this_o doctrine_n of_o poverty_n and_o give_v away_o all_o to_o the_o poor_a to_o be_v the_o essence_n or_o so_o much_o as_o a_o accidence_n of_o their_o religion_n in_o respect_n of_o this_o their_o head-heresy_n about_o poverty_n the_o waldense_n be_v name_v the_o poorman_n of_o lion_n and_o be_v say_v by_o reynerius_n cite_v by_o the_o minister_n pag._n 130._o to_o have_v be_v ever_o since_o silvester_n or_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o they_o be_v much_o applaud_v in_o the_o world_n to_o wit_n as_o i_o say_v only_o in_o regard_n of_o this_o heresy_n about_o poverty_n hold_v ancient_o by_o the_o heretic_n term_v apostolici_fw-la not_o in_o respect_n of_o other_o error_n or_o doctrine_n wherein_o they_o agree_v with_o protestant_n and_o so_o protestant_n labour_v in_o vain_a by_o waldensian_o and_o the_o apostolici_fw-la to_o bring_v their_o pedigree_n from_o the_o apostle_n beside_o the_o waldensian_o hold_v these_o anabaptisticall_a error_n which_o be_v set_v down_o by_o illyricus_n in_o catalogo_fw-la testium_fw-la pag._n 1502._o &_o seq_fw-la out_o of_o reynerius_n a_o author_n of_o those_o time_n who_o he_o term_n candidum_fw-la &_o sincerum_fw-la sincere_a and_o unpartial_a that_o child_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v baptism_n be_v of_o no_o use_n for_o they_o see_v they_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o bishopp_n and_o priest_n nor_o betwixt_o layman_n and_o priest_n that_o the_o apostle_n be_v mere_a layman_n that_o every_o layman_n that_o be_v virtuous_a be_v priest_n may_v consecrate_v preach_v administer_v sacrament_n that_o a_o woman_n pronounce_v the_o word_n in_o the_o vulgar_a tongue_n do_v consecrate_v yea_o transubstantiate_a bread_n into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n that_o it_o be_v mortal_a sin_n to_o swear_v in_o any_o case_n that_o the_o magistrate_n secular_a and_o ecclesiastical_a be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n lose_v their_o office_n and_o that_o no_o man_n be_v to_o obey_v they_o indeed_o illyricus_n pag._n 1514._o &_o 1525._o in_o fine_a say_v that_o this_o last_o error_n be_v false_o lay_v to_o the_o charge_n of_o the_o waldensians_n by_o reynerius_n which_o he_o prove_v because_o aeneas_n silvius_n in_o his_o catalogue_n of_o their_o doctrine_n make_v no_o mention_n of_o this_o but_o he_o be_v gross_o deceive_v two_o way_n first_o because_o reynerius_n live_v in_o that_o time_n and_o be_v inquisitor_n can_v know_v their_o error_n better_a than_o silvius_n nor_o can_v we_o suspect_v his_o fidelity_n be_v as_o illyricus_n do_v acknowledge_v sincerus_fw-la &_o candidus_fw-la sincere_a and_o unpartial_a towards_o waldensian_o second_o aeneas_n silvius_n in_o his_o catalogue_n set_v down_o by_o illyricus_n even_o in_o that_o very_a pag._n 1525._o a_o little_a before_o the_o middle_n charge_v the_o waldensians_n express_o with_o this_o doctrine_n against_o magistracy_n qui_fw-la mortalis_fw-la culpae_fw-la reus_fw-la sit_fw-la eum_fw-la neque_fw-la saeculari_fw-la neque_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la dignitate_fw-la potiri_fw-la nec_fw-la parendum_fw-la ei_fw-la esse_fw-la final_o the_o waldensian_o hold_v it_o not_o necessary_a to_o profess_v their_o faith_n yea_o that_o they_o may_v deny_v it_o go_v to_o mass_n celebrate_v and_o do_v outward_a act_n of_o idolatry_n this_o even_a illyricus_n pag._n 1508._o do_v acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v a_o fault_n in_o they_o but_o he_o say_v they_o may_v have_v be_v save_v by_o repentance_n this_o be_v a_o idle_a shift_n for_o how_o can_v they_o repent_v themselves_o of_o that_o which_o they_o hold_v not_o to_o be_v sin_n how_o can_v they_o be_v the_o true_a church_n wherein_o salvation_n be_v find_v who_o hold_v such_o damnable_a doctrine_n as_o if_o they_o do_v not_o repent_v themselves_o thereof_o they_o be_v certain_o damn_v so_o that_o it_o be_v extreme_a beggary_n in_o protestant_n to_o beg_v of_o these_o beggar_n of_o lion_n to_o be_v their_o professor_n for_o the_o time_n before_o luther_n who_o be_v even_o by_o protestant_a acknowledgement_n much_o more_o poor_a and_o void_a of_o true_a religion_n then_o of_o temporal_a wealth_n that_o protestant_n not_o be_v able_a to_o clear_v themselves_o to_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n do_v vain_o appeal_v unto_o scripture_n for_o their_o doctrine_n the_o minister_n not_o trust_v to_o the_o former_a answer_n and_o feel_v in_o conscience_n that_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o protestant_n shall_v show_v their_o church_n to_o have_v be_v visible_a before_o luther_n say_v pag._n 105._o that_o this_o notwithstanding_o if_o protestant_n be_v able_a to_o demonstrate_v by_o 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be_v prove_v that_o she_o depart_v from_o herself_o that_o be_v from_o the_o mother_n &_o original_a doctrine_n deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n but_o she_o can_v apostle_n can_v here_o the_o minister_n pag._n 128._o again_o repeat_v his_o say_n that_o negative_a argument_n from_o humane_a history_n be_v unconsequent_a which_o his_o say_n as_o have_v be_v show_v be_v against_o the_o consent_n of_o mankind_n his_o argument_n against_o this_o ground_n of_o perpetual_a ecclesiastical_a tradition_n know_v by_o notorious_a fame_n of_o history_n be_v by_o he_o name_v four_o but_o the_o four_o contain_v four_o branch_n and_o so_o they_o be_v eight_o which_o i_o will_v set_v down_o &_o answer_v first_o it_o be_v not_o absolute_o necessary_a that_o the_o humane_a history_n of_o all_o matter_n shall_v be_v compose_v answer_n there_o be_v a_o clear_a lineal_a succession_n of_o prince_n and_o prelate_n from_o the_o apostle_n famous_o &_o particulre_o know_v it_o be_v impossible_a but_o that_o 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