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A95782 An information for Mr. William Dell the (right reformer) as he is pleased to stile himself: (being the first to our best remembrance that ever assumed that title.) Or, An answer to his reply upon Mr. Loves contradictions. Together with the answer unto his epistle dedicatory to the Parliament. / By Umfrevile. Umfrevile, William. 1646 (1646) Wing U26; Thomason E367_10; ESTC R201269 16,565 31

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