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not_o in_o supposition_n that_o she_o shall_v command_v great_a error_n but_o you_o will_v not_o object_n that_o if_o the_o article_n command_v by_o the_o church_n be_v in_o themselves_o true_a yet_o if_o i_o can_v perceive_v their_o truth_n after_o all_o diligence_n use_v to_o that_o end_n it_o be_v hypocrisy_n in_o i_o and_o therefore_o unlawful_a to_o adhere_v to_o that_o church_n i_o conceive_v though_o false_o teach_v and_o command_v false_a doctrine_n and_o extraordinary_a practice_n upon_o those_o ground_n this_o true_o be_v most_o serious_o object_v by_o some_o but_o without_o all_o solidity_n for_o sure_o christian_n be_v oblige_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o reason_n to_o depose_v their_o own_o false_a judgement_n in_o obedience_n to_o god_n &_o his_o church_n else_o this_o will_v open_v a_o gap_n to_o all_o itch_a ear_n of_o who_o we_o be_v premonish_v to_o introduce_v each_o man_n his_o fancy_n and_o prefer_v it_o before_o the_o wholesome_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n 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believe_a and_o do_v what_o she_o propound_v and_o prescribe_v shall_v attain_v unto_o eternal_a salvation_n which_o sufficient_o follow_v out_o of_o what_o have_v be_v say_v in_o the_o first_o chapter_n if_o well_o attend_v much_o more_o also_o may_v be_v produce_v from_o christian_a discourse_v upon_o principle_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o consent_n of_o old_a and_o modern_a doctor_n but_o to_o bring_v our_o doctor_n here_o be_v superfluous_a labour_n see_v protestant_n with_o who_o i_o have_v deal_v sincere_o acknowledge_v and_o ingenious_o confess_v so_o much_o and_o many_o of_o they_o of_o no_o small_a account_n have_v deliver_v in_o book_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o that_o the_o error_n in_o she_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o do_v overthrow_v the_o foundation_n of_o salvation_n and_o therefore_o with_o they_o many_o have_v and_o may_v now_o be_v save_v so_o morton_n regn._n jer._n page_n 94._o the_o papist_n be_v to_o be_v think_v 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we_o right_o say_v he_o confess_v that_o many_o papist_n especial_o our_o progenitor_n put_v their_o only_a trust_n in_o jesus_n christ_n and_o his_o merit_n may_v and_o be_v frequent_o save_v detest_a according_o to_o that_o and_o judge_v the_o cruelty_n of_o the_o puritan_n worthy_a of_o fire_n who_o will_v grant_v no_o salvation_n to_o any_o papist_n yea_o d._n potter_n in_o his_o book_n set_v forth_o by_o the_o command_n of_o king_n charles_n pag._n 76._o &_o 77._o confess_v that_o those_o thing_n which_o protestant_n think_v erroneous_a in_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o in_o themselves_o damnable_a to_o those_o who_o believe_v as_o they_o profess_v and_o that_o all_o may_v be_v save_v with_o they_o who_o bona_fw-la fide_fw-la believe_v and_o profess_v the_o roman_a religion_n as_o long_o as_o they_o find_v no_o motive_n sufficient_a whereby_o their_o judgement_n be_v convince_v that_o they_o be_v in_o error_n to_o conclude_v all_o protestant_n of_o any_o moderation_n who_o 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