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A19142 A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part Ames, William, 1576-1633. 1633 (1633) STC 555; ESTC S100154 485,880 929

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25._o sect_n 10._o and_o after_o that_o for_o many_o hundred_o year_n it_o mend_v for_o the_o common_a course_n of_o error_n as_o sour_a ale_n do_v in_o summer_n 5._o the_o rej._n can_v name_v any_o church_n in_o all_o that_o time_n free_a from_o error_n neither_o can_v he_o deny_v but_o the_o church_n that_o err_v in_o doctrine_n may_v err_v in_o ceremony_n ergo._n 6._o he_o be_v unhappy_a in_o mention_v montanus_n his_o spirit_n which_o breathe_v and_o broach_v so_o many_o humane_a ceremony_n that_o the_o church_n have_v ever_o since_o be_v more_o wrong_v thereby_o in_o ceremony_n then_o in_o any_o other_o respect_n or_o by_o any_o other_o spirit_n of_o that_o time_n as_o all_o man_n know_v that_o have_v read_v those_o writing_n of_o tertullian_n which_o be_v dictate_v by_o a_o piece_n of_o montanus_n his_o spirit_n montanus_n will_v have_v three_o lent_n in_o stead_n of_o one_o montanus_n advance_v the_o cross_n unto_o more_o honour_n then_o ever_o it_o have_v before_o montanus_n 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