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A07694	The second parte of the co[n]futacion of Tyndals answere in whyche is also confuted the chyrche that Tyndale deuyseth. And the chyrche also that frere Barns deuyseth. Made by syr Thomas More knyght.; Confutacyon of Tyndales answere. Part 2	More, Thomas, Sir, Saint, 1478-1535.	1533 (1533)	STC 18080; ESTC S104273	495,165	594

it Now yf Tyndale wolde wynk at these letters lyke a wanton ladde that no man coulde make hym loke vp yet shall I shew you that he hath redde them all redy spyed full well that Peter synned dedely lyke a shrewed wyly lad hath scraped it out of hys boke For ye wote well that in those wordes of our sauyoure vnto saynt Peter he sayth vnto hym And thou after that thou shalt be conuerted conferme thou and make stronge thy bretherne As though he myght say I haue prayed for the that thy fayth shall not fynally fayle But though it ●ayle for a tyme by forsakynge of me as I tell the tru●ly thou shalt thryes do ere the cocke crow yet shall it come in to the agayne by the meane of my prayour And therfore when thou shalt be conuerted agayn that is to wytte after that thy lyuely fayth fallen and faylynge for the tyme and thou therby turned fro me to my enemy thorow forsakyng forswerynge me for dedely synfull drede of bodyly deth after this ●●en thou shalt I say by myne helpe and meane of my prayour wyth applyenge of thyne owne wyll therewyth haue gotten grace and repented and attayned they fayth agayne and be thy sel●e conuerted and turned from myne enemye vnto me agayne then do thou conferme and strength thy bretherne Now se for goddes sake where Tyndale hath scraped out and altered one worde in whyche one worde standeth the makynge and marrynge of all the hole mater For where as our sauyour sayed when thou arte onys conuerted then strength thou thy bretherne Tyndale putteth out cūuerted and maketh our sauyour say when thou art come to thy self agayn then strength thou thy brethern And ●here as he in hys translacyon hadde put in thys worde conuerted yet bycause he sayed here before in thys chapyt●r that the apostles we●e not by faylynge of theyr fayth nor by any dede●y synne turned in any wyse at any tyme from god but were onely a●●sed and astonyed and paste all remembraunce therfore he ●●w hath put out here thys worde conuerted whyche syg●yfyeth a turny●ge to god and therin doth euer imply a turnynge awaye fro god before hath putt● in the stede ther●f these wordes comen agayn to thy selfe to make it agre wyth his other wordes ama●ed astonyed an● forgettynge of them selfe whyche hym selfe sayed of them before Now thys ye s● good reders very well that though we g●aun●● vnto Tyndale that a man may be turned to good turned to be bad and turned to vertue turned to vice turned to god and turned t● the deuyl to yet where so euer in the scrypture that worde turned standeth so alone it is euer taken for turnynge vnto god And specyally the word conuerted whyche is the worde y t he hath chaunged wher so euer in scrypture it so standeth a lone is neuer taken for turnynge of a man vnto hym s●lfe but vnto god For in turnynge to hym selfe he maye turne from god vnto y ● deuyll as Lucyfer by turnynge to hym selfe turned to the deuyll And now ye se that Tyndale to make the gospell seme to agre wyth hys heresye chaungeth in his exposycyon the very chyefe effectuall worde wherupon the pyth of all the mater hangeth I wyll not therfore aske ye now y ● question that Tyndale doth whyther ye thynke not as myche wytte in the hed of madde Colyns as in the bray●es of suche an exposytour But oat of questyon I wene ●●●wyse men thynke that the same deuyll or his mate that made Colyns madde hath sucked out the bray●● of thys exposytoure blowen hys empty scalpe full of bysy frantyke heresyes For elles wolde he neuer for shame speke of that folyshe heresye that none electe at any tyme dothe dedely synne whyche thynge he seeth so playnely reproued by the scrypture and excepte a very ●ew heretykes ellys by the agrement I wene of all the hole people of the worlde both chrysten and hethen to as many as byleue the soule to be immort●●●● And yet is it a better sporte to se howe in the very point in whyche he weneth hym selfe to deale the mooste wylyly therein vttereth he hys foly moste folysshely For where as all hys purpose of thys chapyter of the ordre of our eleccyon is onely to proue that none electe at any tyme synneth dedely euen in the very laste ende there of● where he weneth leste where he weneth him selfe to sytte surest in the chayre of his gloryous tryumphe and mooste merely mocketh and scoffeth at hys aduersary euen there in his false exposicyō of this text of scrypture And thou beynge ones conuerted confirme and strength thy bretherne by hys vnwyse wyly chaunge of this worde conuerted in to comen to hym selfe he is fallen from hym selfe and perceyued nat that he that chaunge hath made euery man wel perceyue that hym selfe whan he so chaunged that worde perceyued very well that the worde conuerted that is to god turned agayne proued clerely that saynte Peter was o●es from god auerted and synfully turned away And therfore hathe he by that wylye chaunge euen in the very laste ende of hys chapyter with hys owne wytnes agaynst his owne purpose all his whole matter peruerted quyte ouer turned and ouer throwen hys tryumphant charyotte and with the very wordes of his mery mocke layed all his matter in the myre ¶ The recapitilacyon of all Tyndalles processe concernynge the churche from the begynnynge hytherto FOr nowe shall you good reders vnderstande that as concernynge hys declaracyon what is the churche here hys whole processe endeth And wyllynge that we shulde nowe wene that he had well declared and proued vs whyche is the very churche he nowe begynneth after this chapiter another newe mater that is to wytte to proue that the comen knowen catholyke churche is nat the churche And therfore sythe here is an ende of his owne part it is necessary that we brefely gather to gether and consyder what thynge he hath proued vs therein or at the leste for proued hathe he nothynge what thynge he hathe tolde vs therein from the begy●nynge hytherto Remembre fyrste good reders that the occasyon of hys boke is for answere of my dyaloge wherein I speke of the churche by whiche we be and muste be taught and enformed And I shewe there that it is the comen knowen catholyke churche of all christen people neyther gone out nor put out and that the doctryne of this churche is sure can nat erre in any thynge necessary to saluacyon whyche thynge I there sufficyently do proue Nowe commeth Tyndall to teche vs that the churche is another churche whiche he wyll shewe you and nat the churche that● I tolde yo● And whether the churche that he sheweth you can erre or nat he wyll tell you And therfore he maketh the tytle of thys boke what is the churche and whether it may erre or nat wherein harken well nowe what he hathe hytherto taught you Fyrste he

the scrybes and pharysees Cayphas Anna and thelders whyche were as Tyndale sayth crepte vp into the seate of Moyses Aaron and the holy prophetes and patryarche agaynst the commyng of Chryste and whom Chryste for theyr false doctryne dyd rebuke yet confesseth Tyndale hym selfe that they kepte the people frome outwarde idolatrye of worshyppynge of idols wyth the hethen And Tyndale muste confesse ferther that neyther scrybes nor pharysees nor preste nor elders as he calleth them no nor yongers neyther yf he wyll haue all the temporalty called yōgers as he wyll haue all the clergy called elders were not euyn at y ● tyme all of one sorte but as there were many naughte of euery sorte so was there of euery sorte ryght good folke also And as for theyr tradycyons and doctryne of whyche was many vayne some euyll some superstycyouse wherby the people amonge them toke harme in the folowynge suche as were euyll thynges were not so fully determyned but that some were of one mynde some of other and therin men myghte folowe the beste doctryne yf they wolde wher in they had doctours and teachers to and myghte yf they were desyrouse of the beste very well decerne them concernynge the glosyng of scrypture by the olde vertuouse doctours that had in sondry ages longe before the false exposicions and false doctrine of the phariseis or false scribes began truely constred and expowned bothe the law the prohetes by whose exposicions they myght trye and controll the false doctrine of the noughty scribes euyll phariseis for good scribes were there and good phariseis to as by the newe testament appereth And that there were of olde in euery age suche trewe doctours and expositours amonge the Iewis maye well appere to euery man that considereth variaunce in the exposicions of the scripture by the Iewis that were of olde before the byrthe of Christ and theym that expowned it after And also Tyndale saith hym selfe that betwen the tyme of Moyses and the cummynge of Christe god styred vppe an hundred prophetes And therfore I am sure of the remenaunt besyde the .xii. that we haue he meneth for some that kinde of doctours and expositours that I speke of or elles I wene he wyll cum shorte of his whole summe and lacke fyue of his hundred And thus thoughe god dyd nat prouide so fully for the chyrche of the Iewis as for the chyrche of Christe as in whiche he hathe prouided and promised to dwell hym selfe for euer yet prouided he for it so sufficiently that they myght therin be saued and entre heuen when it were after open and that in euyll doctrine and supersticiouse traditions they coulde nat be dampned if they were desirouse diligent about theyr owne soule helthe And al be it that bycause the thynge had than so great difficultie that many for lacke of sufficient diligence perisshed god of his great mercy suffred not those noughty scribes false phariseis to continue long but to make an easy way in which no man coulde be deceiued excepte suche as were ouer necligent or maliciouse but shulde sone be lerned the sure truthe and vndoubted way to heuyn sent his owne sonne to begynne a new chyrche of a new fasshion of a nother maner of perfection in whiche he wolde so be present and assistent for euer hym selfe and his owne holy spirite and so teche it and so lede it into euery trouthe that no man coulde be deceiued but he that wold nat byleue his chi●ch and he wolde make his chirche so open and so well knowē that no man coulde but know hit excepte suche as of malice wolde nat knowe hit And yet as I say tyll hym selfe dyd set vp his chyrche the sinagoge was the very chyrch and with suche as were nat wyllyngly blynde was knowen for the very chyrche of god diuided from all the world byside by goddes law by gouernours of his assignement by trewe prophetes trewe precheours and miracles for all the false prophetes and false precheours that were therein byside And the right faithe was lerned no where els A●d who so had gone out of that chyrch except onely into Christes hadde gone wronge And thus it appereth lo that concernyng the synagoge euyn at the comynge of Chryst Tyndale hath here wonne lytell grounde to buylde hys purpose vppon but that euen there was yet at that tyme the very chyrche and a chyrche also knowen And therfore when he goth now ferther and resembleth it vnto the knowen catholyke chyrch of Chryst though they were lyke yet were Tyndale ouerthrowen But now when ye shall here the remanaūt ye shall se Tyndale fall euer deper and deper in the myre For lo thus crepeth he forwarde lyke a crabbe Tyndale In lyke maner is the clergye crepte vp in to the sete of Chr●ste and his ●p●stles by succession not to do the dedes of Chryste and his apostles but ●or lucre onely as the nature of the wyly f●●●e is to gete hym an hole made with an other bestes labour and to make merchaūdyse of the people ●yth fayned wordes as Peter warned vs before and to do accordynge as Chryste and all his apost●es prophecyed how they sholde begy●e and ●ede out of the ryghtewaye all them that dyd not loue to folow and lyue a●ter the treuth More Tyndale here good reader playnely cōfesseth hym selfe that the clergye be those whiche though he call it crepyng be by succe●syon here in erth comen into the seate of Chryst and hys apostles Now can not Tyndale nor wyll not I wote well saye naye but that whyle Chryste entended not that hym selfe and hys apostles sholde for euer personally dwell styll here in erth conuersaunt wyth vs in lyke maner as they were whyle they lyued here among vs and yet entended that hys chyrche here in erthe sholde alwaye haue amonge them techers and prechers syth he entended that hys chyrche sholde as Tyndale agreeth as longe laste in erthe as the worlde sholde endure none other hath there ben had synnys Chrystes dayes and hys apostles in chrystendome but the clergye by contynuall successyon then hath euer the clergye of euery age bene that parte of Chrystes very chyrche to whome Chryste specyally spake speketh and euer shall speke these wordes Go ye and preche the gospell to all creaturs And also these wordes who so hereth you hereth me and who so dyspyseth you dyspyseth me And these wordes also who so receyue you receyueth me and what so euer cytye receyue you not Sodome and Gomorre shall be more easely delt wyth then that cytye in the daye of iugement And also sithe they must be the techers it foloweth that they be must be that parte of his chyrche to which parte these wordes were also specyally spoken I shal sende you the holy goost whiche shall teche you all trewthe and lede you into euery trouthe and I am with you my selfe vnto the worldes ende For though god in these wordes promised to sende