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A81121 Lawles tythe-robbers discovered: who make tythe-revenue a mock-mayntenance, being encouraged thereunto by the defect of law and justice about ministers maintenance; and by the cavills and pretended objections against it. Which defect of law and justice is herein fully discovered, together with the frauds and wrongs occasioned by that defect, that they may be prevented by better laws, and more impartiall justice, now in Parliament-time, wherein remedies have always been most speedy and certain. Herein the many cavills and pretended objections made against tythes, and all setled maintenance of ministers are recited and confuted. Herein also, some motives to the higher powers for speedy relief of ministers, by better laws. Together with some humble proposals of means for the rooting out and preventing of those frauds and wrongs. Imprimature, Edm. Calamy. Culmer, Richard, d. 1662. 1651 (1651) Wing C7480; Thomason E829_18 47,813 43

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and sowre for sweet of purpose to draw men from light of truth into darkness of errour and to move them to distast the sweet wayes of godliness and to run into the bitter wayes of sin and death to fright people out of Christs wayes by calling Christs wayes Antichristian ways because the Pope and Papists teach and practice those wayes of Christ or mix them with Popish dross Superstition Idolatry should we not pay our debts because Turks and Papists pay their debts should we neglect Baptisme because Papists mix oil cream c. in the water of Baptism Master Hawks of Essex a Martyr to whom a maraculous testimony was given at his death did not refuse to let his childe be baptized with water he only refused to suffer the childe to be baptized in those Antichristian mixtures with the water should the mixt binding or Printing the Apocrypha with the Canonical Scripture in our Bibles c. cause us to reject the Scripture as Antichristian Yet upon this accompt most of the Principles and Duties of the true Christian Religion are in these days called Antichristian Doctrines and practices The Trinity of Persons in the God-head that there are two natures in Christ Infant Baptisme That there is a Heaven or a Hell all Antichristian forsooth The setled Ministers of England Their Ordination Maintenance Parochial Congregations all Antichristian Our Synagogues or Temples called Churches where we meet in publick to worship God though never so dedecent orderly kept where Christ is truly worshipped Christian Doctrine is truly taught Christs Sacraments rightly administred Christs Discipline duly executed where no Antichristian Idolarous Monuments no Antichristian doctrines or practices yet our Churches are called the Bawdyhouse of the Whore of Rome Antichristian Steeple-houses The Bels that are instrumental to call people together to serve Christ they are called Antichristian Bimbomes The use of the prayer which Christ hath taught us is called antichristian Schools of Learning Vniversities all antichristian Latin the language of the Beast The Magistracie antichristian Our New-lights despise Government and speak evil of dignities especially if they be zealous advancers of Religion as of Ministers maintenance c. By this Bugbear noise of antichristian many are scared into most antichristian wayes of Heresie and Prophaness Cavil 9 It is antichristian to do contrary to Christs comand when Christ sent his Apostles to preach he commanded them that they should preach freely Mat. 10.8.9 10. Freely ye have received freely give and take no scrip c. Answer 1 That command was to take no reward for miraculous Cures Heal the sick cleanse the Lepers c. Then comes in freely ye have received freely give But it is not spoken as to their ministeriall labour For Christ faith v. 10. The Labourer is worthy of his hire their maintenance is as due to them as the hire to the Labourer Luke 10.6.10 Christ resolves thrice together that the Labourers in the Gospel were worthy of comfortable Lively-hood and not obliged to preach the Gospel freely That recompence is called hire and wages not free benevolence as due to Ministers as servants Labourers and Souldiers wages which is not arbitrary They are worthy of double honour c. 1 Tim. 5.17 Answer 2. Those Apostles whom Christ sent to preach the Gospel could do Miracles miraculous bodily cures The Gospel as a precious plant being newly planted was watered by miracles but when plants are grown divers yeares men use not to water them ministers now seldom do miracles Their greatest Miracle is that they dare undertake the ministery in these times and be faithfull therein For if people will not believe the Scriptures and the miracles therein recorded They will not believe though one should rise from the dead Luke 16. they will not believe for miracles done And seeing those whom Christ sent could doe miracles and bodily cures the people that usually minde temporal and bodily things would certainly liberally provide for those that cured them Skin for skin and all that a man hath will he give for his life The miraculous Cures which Paul did brought in plentifull provision Acts 28. Answer 3. Suppose that command of Christ freely ye have received freely give did concern the Apostles preaching also yet it was but a personal and temporary comand which concerned the Apostles only not a general and perpetual command which concernes all Ministers and Preachers such a command as Abraham to sacrifice Isaac To the rich man in the Gospel to sell all and give to the poore If those commands were generall to all as that what I say unto you I say unto all watch then all should sinne that did not sacrifice their only sonne then all should sin that did not sell all they have and give it to the poore And if this command of Christ to the Apostles when he sent them to preach were general and perpetual and did concerne all Ministers then all Ministers should sinne that provided Gold or Silver or two coats or shoes or or staves because Christ forbade his Apostles to provide those when he sent them forth to preach Answer 4 Ministers now have not freely received their abilities to preach there liberal Education Learning Tongues Arts c. cost them labour and watching and it was not of free cost it cost their friends something Cavill 10. Christ and his Apostles did practise this command of Christ they had no tythes nor setled maintenance and Paul the Apostle had no tythes nor setled maintenance 1. Cor. 4.7 but laboured for his living Answer 1 We heard before in answer to the first Cavil That Christ and his Apostles Paul and others lived in times of persecution when people that were converted were few and poore not many rich 1 Cor. 1. The poore receive the Gospel c. And upon this accompt Paul would not be chargeable to the presecuted poore Saints and Churches And that he might not be a burden to them he wrought to get his living Answer 2 Christ and his Apostles lived while the Leviticall Sacrifice Altar and Temple were standing and living not dead or deadly and therefore would not burthen the people with double paying of tythes to pay tythes twice for one thing One to the Leviticall Priests and one to Christ and his Apostles Answer 3. Paul had extraordinary gifts he preached by inspiration he might labour and preach which other Ministers wanting those extraordinary gifts cannot ought not to do as Paul exhorts Timothy not to intangle himselfe in worldly imployments but to read c. Answer 4 Paul laboured for speciall ends one was to stop the mouthes of the false Apostles that they might not glory over him 1 Cor. 9.15 2 Cor. 11.12 The false Apostles gloried that they preached freely 2 Cor. 11.12 Answer 5 Saint Paul did it that he might not hinder the Gospel amongst the Corinthians 1 Cor. 9.12 they being most of them Pagans and some newly converted all covetous 1 Cor. 4.12 13. Chap.
to teach false doctrine and to utter lying prophecies to please and advantage those that hired them But our Ministers setled maintenance is not their hire from the State to preach false doctrine The Christian Magistrate alloweth not such doctrine to be preached by these Ministers but in joyneth them to preach true doctrine and punisheth not rewardeth false teachers Answer 2. Those texts of Scripture which Charles wresteth for his owne ends against the publique setled maintenance of Ministers may fitly be applyed to himself that wilfully depends upon the reward of particular persons upon their free benevolence such as he are likely to runne after the reward of Balaam to preach perverse things for filthy lucre sake to please and honour their benefactors in their opinions practices c. least they should give them nothing Cavil 15. The Apostles lived upon contribution upon what the people would give them of free good will Answer 1. This is answered before The Apostles times were times of persecution and of poverty amongst the Saints and therfore is no rule in times of peace and prosperity and plenty under a Christian Magistracie Answer 2. The Apostles had the estates of believers of ability laid at their feet to distribute them for the support of Ministers and people in those unsetled persecuting times If the Apostles practice in times of persecution must be a rule for Ministers maintenance in times of the peace and prosperity of the Churches then the peoples practice in those times of the Apostles should be a rule to the people now to sell their houses and lands c. and bring the price of them to the Ministers Answer 3. Will such as now with-hold the maintenance which is the propriety of godly Ministers by law and right Will such I say will such freely maintain godly Minister Answ 4. This maintenance by free contribution and almes as it were is in all likelihood and is found by experience an occasion for Ministers to comply with carnal wicked people in a man-pleasing way for livelihood It was Jeroboams policy to have Priests dependant on his contribution to be his Trencher-Chaplains these were ready to sacrifice to the golden Calves which the Priests and Levits having a setled maintenance refused to do though Jeroboam and his son persecuted them and put base ones in their rooms 2 Chron. 11.13 14 15. Answer 5. Will the Profane or Heretical Person freely maintain a godly Orthodox faithful Minister whose doctrine reproofs c. are very unpleasing to flesh and blood Answer 6. Experience shewes how godly Ministers are maintained by free benevolence where there is no setled publique maintenance in many places the godly are the poorest and fewest and we see many professors charity is but cold upon this accompt many able and godly Ministers that have members of their Sacramental Congregations from divers Parishes until the Parishes be fitted with a competent number of fit Communicants by the setled Preaching of the Gospel amongst them by able and painful Teachers I say upon this accompt many of those Congregational Ministers do not subsist onely by the contribution of their Congregations but have publique setled maintenance without which they could not comfortably subsist and provide for their families Answ 7. Those Ministers that have been necessitated to live upon contribution have and do finde That mans nature is variable and peoples mindes are aliened from them upon no occasion they become such Ministers enemies for Ministers telling them the truth they say Hail Christ too day and crucifie him to morrow Make a God of Paul to day and stone him to morrow willing to day to pull out their eyes to do him good and are ready to pull out his eyes to morrow The free contribution of such a variable nature is very uncertain and is so found by daily experience Cavil 16. I finde no precept in the Gospel for the paying of the tenth or any other certain rate therefore I le pay none If God had set down how much I should pay I would have paid it I may pay too much or too little and so sin Answer 1. The Gospel requires a liberal and certain maintenance of Gospel Ministers Gal. 5.6 1 Cor. 9.3 Answer 2. Gods Law for the maintenance of those that were his Ministers under the Law is set down in answer to this cavil Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the Temple And they which which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar Even so hath the Lord ordain'd that they which preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel 1 Cor. 9.13 14. This even so will satisfie this pretended Scruple or Objection It proves a liberal certain setled maintenance for Gospel Ministers by Tythes Glebes or otherwise Even so which even so Master Canne leaves out when he cites this Scripture in his lowd voice and cry against the godly setled Ministery of England and their maintenance although he could not but be convinced in conscience that this is the scope of the Apostle to shew that Gospel Ministers maintenance must be at a rate answerable to that which those injoyed that did minister about the holy things of the temple There is no commandement to vary or alter from the same certainty and proportion God shewing by this even so that he hath no lesse care of Evangelicall then Leviticall Ministers for their liberall certain setled maintenance not by the will bounty and pleasure of men but by a certaine tenure and establishment from God even so c. Cavill 17 Is printed expresly by Charles Nicholls if people do not heare the Parish Priest they need not pay him tythes or duties Hence the Caviller saith I do not hear the Priest therefore I will pay him no tythes if I reap none of his spiritual he shall not reap my temporalls and if he must be partaker of all my good things I must be instructed by him 1 Cor. 9. Gal. 6.6 Answer 1. This untrue and seditious position is not only vented by Charles Nicholls and some others to undo and ruine all the Godly setled Ministers of England but to serve his own belly to draw disciples after him Charles would have his stoln sheep fat and have good store of wooll on their backs such sheep are worth the drawing if they pay the setled Minister no maintenance they will be the better able to pay Charles This is worse then to rob Peter to pay Paul it is to rob Peter and Paul too to pay Charles to pay Alexander the Copper-smith to pay Diatrephes c. But this assertion is become very taking and prevails very much to overthrow the setled Godly Ministery Thus of old they that did runne before they were sent did steale Gods word every one from his Neighbour Jer. 14.14 23.30 Diodate expoundes it they fraudulently take upon them to preach the word and steale from the called Prophets all authority and credit As the false