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A53955 A fourth letter to a person of quality, being an historical account of the doctrine of the Sacrament, from the primitive times to the Council of Trent shewing the novelty of transubstantiation. Pelling, Edward, d. 1718. 1688 (1688) Wing P1081; ESTC R274 51,690 83

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