MOTIVES AND REASONS For Dissevering from the Church of Rome And her DOCTRINE By Chr. Musgrave after he had lived a Carthusian MONK for Twenty Years Wherein after the Declaration of his Conversion he openeth divers Absurdities practised in that Church being not Matters of Report but such things whereof he was an Eye and Ear Witness LONDON Printed for John Harefinch in Mountague-Court in Little-Britain 1688. Licensed March 28 th 1687. To the Most Reverend FATHER in GOD HIS GRACE The Lord Arch-Bishop of Canterbury Primate and Metropolitan of all England MOst Reverend and Gracious Father in God Notwithstanding that in a Publick Audience I have renounced the Church of Rome and her Doctrine and declared my self most willing to imbrace all and every Article of the Church of England because I could not at that time so fully open and lay down the Motives and Grounds of my Conversion as I intended I promised to explain my self more amply not only to that Audience but also unto the whole World by putting my Motives forth in Print Having therefore in some sort discharged my Promise by collecting though not all yet the chiefest of my Motives and fore-seeing not only what sharp Censures but also what great Opposition these my poor Endeavours must sustain and considering that a weak Body hath need of a strong support presuming upon your Grace's favour I thought it most convenient to dedicate these my first Fruits unto the High-Priest Not only to the end that this small Treatise might with more security present it self both to Foes and Friends under your Grace's Protection but also that the oblation of this small Mite might satisfie for some part of the great Obligation and Duty I owe unto your Grace and moreover be a Testimony of my most humble Affection and dearest Respect Thus most humbly desiring your Grace's gracious and favourable Countenance and beseeching the Lord of Heaven long to protect and preserve your Grace in all Health and Happiness to his Honour and the Comfort of his Church I rest Your Grace's most humble Servant Christopher Musgrave THE CONTENTS CHAP. I. COntaining the manner of his Conversion CHAP. II. Containing the first Motive of dislike of the Church of Rome and her Doctrine CHAP. III. Concerning the Oppression of Inferiour Religious Men by Superiour amongst Carthusians CHAP. IV. Containing the dislike taken from the Point of Transubstantiation CHAP. V. Concerning abuses committed in Auricular Confession CHAP. VI. Concerning divers other Points as of Prayer for the Souls in Purgatory of Purgatory it self Tradition and such like MOTIVES and REASONS For Dissevering from the CHURCH of ROME And her DOCTRINE CHAP. I. Containing the manner of his Conversion WE read in the ninth of Saint John's Gospel that when Christ by his Omnipotency had open'd the Eyes of a Man that was born blind not only his Neighbours and the Vulgar sort but also the Pharisees themselves were very desirous to know in what manner or by what means Christ did open the blind mans Eyes And therefore they asked him that was restored to his sight How were thine Eyes opened And again in the 26 verse How opened he thine Eyes It being indeed a most strange and admirable thing yea a Miracle the like whereof was never heard since the beginning of the World that any Man opened the Eyes of one that was born blind The man who was restored to his sight answered and said that a man called Jesus made Clay and anointed his Eyes and bad him go to the Pool of Syloam and wash and he went and washed and received his sight This was a very strange Miracle and worthy not only of admiration but also of all thanksgiving love and adoration being indeed a most evident argument and testimony both of our Saviours Love and Omnipotency But far more admirable far more worthy of Thanks Love and Adoration are the Love and Power which Christ manifesteth in opening the Eyes of our Souls and illuminating them with the light of his grace he being sent as the Prophet Zachary doth testifie To give Light to them that sit in darkness to wit of sin and error And therefore whensoever it pleaseth him out of his great mercy and goodness to illuminate the eyes of a mans Soul who hath a long time been blinded with superstitious Errors and bring him unto the true Light and Understanding of his Word all such as have known and been acquainted with such a man may not only admire congratulate and praise God for such a mans Conversion but also may justly demand of him the manner and means of his spiritual illumination And because a mans Friends and Neighbours may be of the vulgar and unlearned sort for their better satisfaction they may refer such a man unto the examination of the Pharisees whereby the Clergy and most learned may be understood that they also may inquire and know how and by what means the Eyes of his Soul were opened And therefore since it hath pleased Almighty God of his infinite Love and by the powerful operation of his grace after a long time spent in blind Superstition at length to dissipate the dark Cloud of Error wherewith the Eyes of my Soul were darkned with the bright-shining Beams of his Grace to give satisfaction to all true Protestants which I doubt not do congratulate with me and give God thanks for my Conversion and moreover to defend my self from the Calumniations of Papists whose envy is so great that they deem me rather perverted then converted and to obscure the powerful operation of Gods Grace impute my leaving of them and their Doctrine unto want of Wit or a touch of Frensie or unto desire and hope of Preferment I will sincerely and briefly set down the means and manner of my Conversion Thus I answer to such as out of love desire to know how and in what manner the Eyes of my Soul were opened and also unto such as think and say out of envy that the Eyes of my Soul are rather obscured then any way illuminated That a man called Jesus made Clay and anointed mine Eyes and said unto me Go unto the Pool of Syloam and wash and thou shalt see and I went and washed and do see And because men may ask of me what Jesus did unto me I must confess how that after the liking and affection which through the weakness of my Understanding and Judgment at that time I did take towards the Church of Rome and her Doctrine and also that particular Affection and liking unto the Order of Carthusians wherein I put my self first to probation and afterwards tyed my self by profession After some years spent with as great Zeal and Industry as I could being always desirous according to my little Understanding and penury of time to search and find out the Grounds and Reasons of all Ceremonies and Observations it being a thing not permitted in a mans Noviship lest perhaps coming to understand things aright he
Prior. But they were not accepted by the Visitors and both the Vicar and the other two religious men were censured by the Visitors to be imprisoned for defaming of their Prior and the Vicar and one of the two were both put in Prison but the third was not because a Canon of Gant who was his Kinsman did write a very threatning Letter unto the chief Visitor warning him not to meddle with his Cousin nor to punish him any way because if so be that he should do it he would easily prove that business whereof the Prior was accused to be true both to the Visitors and Priors shame and ignominy of the whole Order Notwithstanding the Prior was borne out by the Visitor and the poor Vicar being innocent was cast into Prison and lost his place and the Visitor whom otherwise I did know to be a very honest man yet at that time and in that business dealing not honestly being demanded by a Friend wherefore he did so much oppress the Vicar his answer was Propter honorem Ordinis to save the Honour and Reputation of their Order Thinking it better to offend God by violently oppressing a poor honest man then that the abuses and absurdities of that Order which indeed is accounted most strict and holy in outward shew howbeit full of secret and hidden sins from the sight of men though not from the Eyes of God should be manifested and made known unto the World. And thus much I can say and justifie upon my Conscience that Father Anthony à Fine who had been twenty years Prior of the Carthusian Monastery of Lyre and died Vicar of the same House did tell me the Womans Name to wit Petronilla which had that Child by the Prior of Martins Busse Again Johannes Briall being instituted Prior of the Carthusians of Liege after a year or two of his Residency gave himself unto all lasciviousness of living and especially to continual Feastings and Banquetings in so much that many complaints were made of him unto the Visitors and also unto the General of the whole Order And I being then at Liege and seeing his bad and irreligious Life was much offended and scandalized and so much the more in respect that the Prior having been professed in great Carthusia which is the chiefest House of the whole Order and where regular Discipline is most strictly observed was expected to be most exemplar and proved most debauch'd and irregular making no more scruple of Drunkenness then as if it had been no sin at all He continuing in this course and presuming altogether upon the favour of the General had danted all the Monks of that House that except one few there were that durst write or complain against him because they had no hope to obtain Justice At length I my self did inform against him unto the General and did urge the business so far that the General sent a Commission unto the Prior of Gant being then newly instituted Visitor of that Province that he should come to examine the business and do Justice But Jacobus Dionysii for that was his Name being a most corrupt man both in Body and Mind and being himself in danger to lose his place because he had been accused by his Vicar for frequenting of Bawdy-houses at Midnight when as he should have been at Mattens with his Monks to get favour at the Generals hands by favouring the Prior of Liege whom he knew very well to be much respected by the General coming to Liege to examine the business would not examin any such as he thought would truly and justly give Testimony against the Prior but by his own Authority would give sentence for the Prior against me howbeit both my self and others had been Eye-witnesses of the Priors often Drunkenness and that great notice was taken in the City of the Priors misbehaviour in that point as a Proctor of Liege Brother-in-Law unto Father Henry Christian a Monk of that Monastery did with great grief of Mind certifie and tell him of Besides the Popes Nuntio having heard of that Priors bad Life was ready by the Popes Authority to have deposed the Prior from his Office notwithstanding the General and the Visitor did so much and so long support him that he became shameless quia peccator cum in profundum venerit contemnit and in fine did fall into such gross and enormous yea indicibilia peccata sins not to be nominated that he was glad to fly and leave both the Monastery of Liege and also his Priorship Howbeit that before not only my self but also Johannes Aucelinus and Peter Latermius both Priests and Monks of that House had been much oppressed and punished for writing and complaining of his wicked and most unchristian Life These are the proceedings of that holy Order wherewithal the Eyes of the whole are blinded the Superiours being for the most part both Licentious and Covetous and the Inferiours Envious and Contentious CHAP. IV. Containing the dislike taken from the point of Transubstantiation FOrasmuch as the things before mentioned spectant mores non fidem are matters of Manners and not of Faith to give and manifest the reasons and motives that moved me to alter my Opinion in matters of Faith I must acknowledge that finding such deformity of Manners and Conversation even in the first-born and fairest Flowers of the Church of Rome I was much afraid and not a little danted fearing that I had built my House upon the Sand and not upon a Rock and that the Tree that bears such rotten fruit must of necessity be rotten at the root I mean that the Doctrine of the Church of Rome could hardly be Authentical seeing that the Conversation of her holiest Children was so Diabolical And upon this fourth Consideration I began to reflect upon those points of Controversie wherein we and the Church of Rome do most differ and dissent And beginning with the point of Transubstantiation howbeit the Papists are not ashamed to affirm that the true Church hath always taught that as soon as the Priest hath pronounced the words of Consecration that the former substance of Bread and Wine is changed into the Body and Blood of Christ so that no other substance remains but only Christs Body and Blood the accidents remaining without a Subject both Scripture it self and also the use of the Primitive Church and Opinion of the most ancient Fathers do contradict this Opinion for in Scriptures we find that even after that blessing which Christ himself gave over the Bread and Wine he termed it the Cup of the New Testament And also it is most different from the Doctrine of antient Fathers for St. Augustine in his Book de Doctrina Christiana Liber tertius cap. 16. saith that these words Except you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood c. are a Figure commanding us to partake of the Passion of Christ and profitably to remember that his flesh was crucified for us
according as Christ himself warned his Disciples saying Do this in remembrance of me And St. Chrysostome ad Cesarium Monachum saith Bread before it be sanctified we call Bread but when the Divine Grace sanctifies it it is delivered from the name of Bread and it is thought worthy the name of the Lords Body though the Nature of Bread remain still This is Theodorets Opinion who saith that the mystical signs after Consecration do not depart from their Nature but abide in their former substance figure and form and may be seen and touched as before And moreover this Opinion is so far dissonant and differing from the Opinion of the Primitive Church that it is generally confessed that before the Lateran Council about four hundred years ago no man was bound to believe it as Tonstall in his Book de Veritate Corporis Sanguinis Christi saith that before that time it was free for all men to follow their own conjecture as concerning the manner of the real presence And also Byel and Scotus two ancient Schoolmen as Swarez doth affirm in his 3. Tom. distinct 5. and also Sotus in his 4. book distinct 9. q. 2. art 4. doth affirm did hold this Opinion to be very new and lately brought into the Church and believed only upon the Authority of the Laterane Council And Peter Lumbard was so far from being of this Opinion which the Church of Rome now holdeth that in his fourth Book of Sentences distinct 2. he saith of himself If it be demanded what manner of Conversion this is whether it be formal or substantial or of another kind I am not able to define Finding therefore this difference betwixt the Church of Rome and the Primitive Church yea betwixt the Church of Rome and Christ himself in this point I thought it more secure for my Souls health to adhere unto the Opinion of him that cannot err then unto the Opinion of Pope Innocent the third upon whose Shoulders our new Opinionists in this point are glad to lay their Burden having no other warrant for their novelty but a poor sinful mans Authority who to make himself great is not ashamed to derogate from Christs Authority and Exposition in this point who telleth us that so often as we eat or drink of this Bread or Wine we shall do it in remembrance only of him feeding on him in our Hearts by Faith with Thanksgiving telling us in the sixth of John verse 36. The Flesh profiteth nothing it is the Spirit that quickeneth And under correction I would demand of a Papist whether the Sacrament of the Lords Supper was instituted for the feeding of our Souls or of our Bodies or of both Now if they answer That it was instituted for feeding and nourishing of both or of the Soul especially then they must confess a thing most contrary to their own Tenents that is That the Body and Blood of Christ is spiritually in the Sacrament to feed the Soul and not substantially to feed the Body because the Soul of man being a Spiritual substance cannot feed upon corporal food which must needs follow if so be that the Body and Blood of Christ be corporally in the Sacrament Now again that it is only a Spiritual and not a Corporal food to feed the Soul and not the Body Christ himself insinuateth in the sixth of John verse 51. saying I am the Bread of Life which came down from Heaven if any man eat of this Bread he shall live for ever which is meant of the Life of the Soul we being almost certain that this our corruptible Body must be dissolved and cannot live for ever but so far as at the day of Judgment it shall participate with the Soul of perpetual Joy or of perpetual misery sustaining in the interim a dissolution because according to our Bodies Earth we are and into Earth we must return again And therefore to preserve our corporal Life we need not the Food of the Body and Blood of Christ we have other material and natural Food sufficient And to feed our Souls therewith we cannot eat it corporally but only spiritually by Faith the Soul of man being incapable of any corporal Food And again if so be that the Body and Blood of Christ be corporally in the Sacrament we cut off one Article from our Creed wherein we Confess that Christ sitteth at the right Hand of God for he being with a true natural Body upon the Altar as the Papists hold is not sitting at the right hand of his Father in his Humanity But because we believe that he is ascended into Heaven and sitteth at the right Hand of his Father in his Humanity we must also believe that he is only spiritually in the Sacrament by his Omnipotency And out of one absurdity they infer another for by holding that Christs Body and Blood is corporally in the Sacrament they make that which is no Sin to be Sin defining that if so be that by any accident or misfortune a Priest should let a consecrated Host fall or shed any of the consecrated Wine it is a mortal Sin be it never so much against your will. Now how absurd this is I refer both my self and others unto the Judgment of Saint Augustine who saith that Omne Peccatum est voluntarium adeo voluntarium quod nisi esset voluntarium non esset peccatum that is that every sin understanding actual sin must be voluntarily that is committed This consideration concerning this point of Transubstantiation was a great motive unto the alteration of my Profession CHAP. V. Concerning Abuses committed in Auricular Confession ANother motive of dislike of the Church of Rome and her Doctrine did arise from the consideration of those manifold absurdities and abuses committed under the colour of Auricular Confession It being a thing which the Church of Rome without any warrant of Gods Word and quite contrary to the practice of the Primitive Church hath taken up at her own hand For first of all to prove that they have no warrant of Scripture for it their own Canon-Law in the 5. distinct de poenitentia in the Gloss saith that Auricular Confession was taken up only by a certain Tradition of the Church and not by any Authority of the Old or New Testament And Petrus Oximensis sometime Divinity-Reader at Salamanca many years ago publickly taught that Auricular Confession had the beginning from a positive Law of the Church and not from the Law of God of the same mind was Bonaventure Medina and others And to prove that the Primitive Church did not use it both Erasmus in his Annotations ad Hieron de obitu Fabiol and Rhenanus in his Annotations ad Tertul. de poeniten being both at that time learned Papists did affirm that neither Christ did ordain Auricular Confession neither the ancient Church used it which is confirmed by the act of Nectarius Bishop of Constantinople who as the three-fold History doth testifie when as auricular
should alter his mind and if it were permitted yet the obligation a Novice hath to learn the Ceremonies and Observations of the Order which are both many and very difficult will not afford a Novice to do any thing else but only to dedicate himself wholly to the practice of them which to do well will require three or four years Labour and Industry Being freed from that Inconvenience and stealing time even from that little time which was limited for rest to wit the space of six hours in a Night I betook my self to earnest consideration of every thing wishing and desiring that it might please Almighty God to shew me the means and way how to attain unto such knowledge And he that is always most ready to help such as fly unto him for Aid to wit Jesus who according to the Interpretation of his Name is the true Shepherd and Saviour of our Souls vouchsafed to make Clay and anoint mine Eyes by laying a great number of serious Observations before the Eyes of my Soul wherewithal my Eyes were not a little dazeled at the first until it pleased the same Jesus by the Inspiration of his Spirit to bid me go to Syloam indeed a two-fold Syloam one of the Holy Scripture and the other of Ancient Fathers and there to wash my Eyes and undoubtedly I should by practice of them be restored to my sight and understand aright those doubts and difficulties wherewithal I was perplexed and be able to discern Light from Darkness and Truth from Falshood And betaking my self to the reading of the Scriptures and ancient Fathers and comparing the State of the Primitive Church with the present State and Government of the Church of England and of the Church of Rome I soon perceived how far the Church of Rome had plunged her self into that noisome puddle of Superstition and was quite faln from her wonted Purity and as I may term it Innocency and now polluted with a multitude of Deformities which have sprung from out the roots of Ambition Avarice and Hypocrisie On the other part I considered how that our Church of England howbeit for many years past our sins having deserved that scourge it had adhered unto the Church of Rome had now not only shaken off the Yoke of Superstition but also lymphed her self of all those Deformities which any way did stain her ancient Beauty and was restored to her former Purity and Splendor of the Primitive Church Mine Eyes being opened I saw an infinite number of Absurdities and how far I my self had been deceived and into what great danger both of Soul and Body I had cast my self by undertaking that course of Life wherein great Piety is pretended and prescribed but great Dissimulation and Hypocrisie practised as I shall briefly with Examples whereof I have been an eye Witness justifie CHAP. II. Containing the first Motive of dislike of the Church of Rome and her Doctrine THE first thing that moved me to search and look into the Errors of the Church of Rome was the consideration of the great Insufficiency and want of Learning in many Persons of the Order of Carthusians there being indeed in most Monasteries of that Order divers admitted not only to that Order but also unto the dignity of Priesthood which can hardly read much less understand their Mass but to speak or write Latine altogether unable I could nominate divers both English-men and Strangers of this stamp whose Names for their honours sake I conceal But wondring with my self what should cause Superiors of that Order to admit such insufficient men and asking familiarly of some grave and wise men what might be the reason they gave me a twofold reason The first that Carthusians living a solitary and retired course of Life and not going abroad to Preach and converse amongst Seculars had not need of any great Learning But I answered that they were bound both by the Canons of the Church and also by their Statutes to admit none but such as were sufficienter docti sufficiently learned The second Answer was that it was the policy of many Priors in that Order to admit simple and unlearned Men to be Monks to that end that the Priors themselves might keep their places of Superiority the longer and with more security whilst there were no Persons sufficiently qualified for to supply such Places This gave me a great distaste for howbeit I my self was too too presumptuous in taking the Dignity of Priesthood upon me nevertheless I could never endure that Men more unfit than my self should be admitted howbeit divers by shifts and sleights were admitted which are not only in respect of their ignorance burdensom both to themselves and others but also according to that saying that Learning hath no greater enemy than Ignorance So no men are more envioâ—… more full of spite more malicious and more troublesome than such blind Buzzards which cannot give the definition of a Priest nor construe three lines of their Mass. CHAP. III. Concerning the Oppression of Inferiour Religious Men by Superiours amongst Carthusians ANother dislike that I did take both of the Order of Carthusians and of the Church of Rome did arise from the ordinary Oppression of poor honest-hearted and zealously-minded Men howbeit not according to knowledge I mean of such as out of a true desire to observe regular Discipline being also bound by their Statutes thereunto did at any time inform against the dissolute and debaucht living of their Superiours such Men as in respect of their true fervour and earnest desire to keep their Order and Statutes deserved both Love and Commendations amongst Men of their own Profession were sure to find all bitterness and persecution vsque ad internecionem And howbeit their complaints were clariora Luce meridiana clearer than the Sun notwithstanding Supâ—â—â—ours of that Order one to support another would make them more obscure than Darkness it self and so devise all means possible to oppress their Inferiours And hereof I will put down one or two Examples Johannes de Sancto Huberto sometime Vicar of the Carthusian Monastery of Martins Busse in Flanders being most certainly informed of many irreligious actions of his Prior and amongst other matters that his Prior had got a Maid with Child he being Vicar thought himself bound in Conscience as he was indeed to inform against his Prior unto the Superiours of that Order and being desirous to have the Advice of Father Brullot who had sometime been the Proctor of Martins Busse and was dwelling at Lyre did write unto him and his Letter being intercepted and opened by the Prior of Martins Busse who perceived that his Vicar intended to prosecute that business against him the Prior sent for the Visitors of that Province to complain against his Vicar how that he had defamed him by writing such a Letter unto Father Brullot The matter came to scanning and Joannes de Sancto Huberto did produce two Priests of the same Monastery that gave witness against the
Confession did first begin to creep in put it down in his Church and all the Bishops of the East did the like in theirs as being not only a Novelty but also in their Judgments so far from being a sovereign Medicine for Sin as some men hold it that it was found rather to be a Nurse of sin Churches being converted into Stews Confession playing the Pander unto the Priest and his Penitents there to parle and consult I mean under Confession how to effect and practise their carnal Affections and Designs which indeed was the chiefest thing that moved Bishop Nectarius to thrust it out of Constanâ—inople to prevent such wickedness as by a woful experience of a Gentlewoman that was ravished he â—und to be practised And I can speak upon my own knowledge thus much That I have not noted any thing that hath opened a wider gate or way unto sin than Auricular Confession My Reason is this First that many care not what they do or say think it sufficient be they never so great swearers slanderers or blasphemers or whatsoever actual sins they commit to go once a year to Confession and moreover most Villanies and Conspiracies which are either intended or practised against either Princes or Countries some whereof I could specifie in particular if so it might be well taken are for the most part opened and consulted upon in Confession for Men not daring to open such things out of Confession and being desirous to have advice and direction in them propound such businesses in Confession and then under pretence of confessing their sins they maliciously consult how to effect and practise their sinful purposes And besides that experience which I my self have had of these things in that time that I heard Confessions but only amongst a handful of primest râ—ligious Men so reputed amongst whom in their daily Confessions I found continual plotting and practising of Inferiours against their Superiours and such as were in any office and of Superiours against their Inferiours how to quit and rid themselves of such religious Men as they found to be zealous Biel in his Canon lect 77. saith of his time that it was an usual thing for Men and Women to turn their Confessions into Babblings and Curiosities mingling profane talk concerning vile things Now besides these absurdities and notwithstanding that there is no warrant of Scripture for it neither was any use of it in the Primitive Church there be divers and those very Learned that hold it not necessary at all And amongst others Michael Bonon in his Exposition upon the 29 th Psalm saith that seeing Justification is the infusion of Grace whereupon sin is remitted it followeth that Confession is not necessary either for the obtaining of Pardon for our sins or for our Justification for according to the true order of things Confession in time followeth Contrition and therefore seeing Contrition it self is not without Justification the said Justification may be had without Confession of this mind is Cajetan Tom. 3. q. 8. art 4. saying That a man truly contrite and sorrowful for his sins standeth clean in the Judgment of God and is a formed member of the Church Militant And Peter Lumbard in his fourth Book Distinct. 18. and divers others with him hold that the Priest hath no power to forgive sin or to work any spiritual effect by vertue of the Keys which is the Tenent of our Church of England which not disallowing Confession upon just occasion notwithstanding holdeth that the Priest cannot give the penitent any spiritual Grace neither absolve him otherwise then declare the penitent upon his true Contrition to be absolved through the Mercies and Merits of Jesus Christ. This Consideration of the little necessity men have of auricular Confession and likewise of the great Abuses and Absurdities committed under Confession was a great motive to withdraw my Affection from the Church of Rome CHAP. VI. Concerning divers other Points as of Prayer for the Souls in Purgatory of Purgatory it self Tradition and such like MAny other Motives to dislike the Doctrine of the Church of Rome did offer themselves unto the Eyes of my Soul the which I will only briefly set down without any long Discourse lest I should offend the Reader with Prolixity Another Motive did arise from the absurdity of that Tenent of the Church of Rome which teacheth and commandeth to pray for the Souls in Purgatory having no warrant of Scripture for it neither being able to prove by Scripture or by Tradition that there is any Purgatory at all for Baronius in the first Volume of his late written History going about to patronize Prayer for the Souls in Purgatory out of the second Book of Maccabees chap. 12. vers 43. which is Apocrypha he inferreth to prove Purgatory saying that since the Church hath admitted Prayer for the Dead there must of necessity be a Purgatory otherwise it were to no end to pray for the Dead But to warrant this Doctrine either of Purgatory or Prayer for the Dead he hath only this to say Pie creditur traditum esse ab Apostolis that is it is a charitable belief that the Church hath this Doctrine by Tradition from the Apostles And after that I began to reflect upon Tradition especially finding in the fourth Session of the first Councel of Trent chap. 1. that the Church of Rome doth equalize Tradition with Holy Scripture and that Baronius in his late written History is not ashamed to prefer it before Scripture saying Videas quanti ponderis sit ipsa Traditio ut ex ipsa Novi Testamenti scripta omnia Authoritatem acceperint Consider saith he of what force and authority Tradition is seeing that the New Testament is authorized by it And it followeth Traditio fundamentum Scripturarum in eoque istas excellunt quod illae nisi Traditione firmentur non subsistant hae vero etiam sine scriptis suam obtineant firmitatem that is the ground or foundation of Scripture is Tradition and herein doth excell it because Scripture cannot stand without Tradition but Tradition can stand without Scripture Looking upon the Opinion of Ancient Fathers touching this point I found that Basil the Great an Ancient Greek Author writeth to this effect It is necessary and consonant to Reason that every man learn that which is needful out of Scripture both for the fulness of Godliness and lest they be inured to humane Tradition Where out of this one mans Opinion a man may sufficiently gather that Tradition in the Primitive Church was of small Reputation but rather suspected as an Invention to subvert true Religion for when as the Church of Rome began to vary from the Doctrine of the Primitive Church and to bring in these Points of Purgatory Prayer for the Dead Auricular Confession Pardons Plenary Indulgences Praying to Saints Hallowing of Beads Medals Crosses Agnus Deis and such like Fooleries which are meer humane subtil Inventions arising from the avarice and