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censure_n and_o be_v sorry_a when_o our_o adversary_n make_v such_o property_n of_o they_o as_o by_o their_o mean_n to_o beget_v in_o some_o a_o disaffection_n to_o our_o church_n but_o to_o come_v to_o those_o protestant_n 34._o disc_n 2._o §._o 30._o p._n 33_o 34._o who_o our_o author_n tell_v we_o neither_o out_o of_o singularity_n nor_o charity_n but_o pure_a conviction_n be_v of_o late_a so_o kind_a to_o popery_n the_o first_o he_o quote_v be_v mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o epilogue_n wherein_o he_o be_v not_o only_o a_o conciliator_n and_o so_o oblige_v by_o his_o very_a design_n to_o strain_v his_o charity_n but_o his_o term_n of_o reconciliation_n be_v by_o his_o own_o confession_n peculiar_a notion_n of_o his_o own_o which_o he_o seem_v to_o have_v propose_v as_o not_o think_v that_o other_o reconciler_n have_v sufficient_o clear_v the_o papist_n from_o idolatry_n for_o it_o must_v be_v confess_v that_o this_o pious_a and_o learned_a man_n be_v zealous_a to_o his_o last_o 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