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A14656 Fishers folly unfolded: or The vaunting Iesuites vanity discovered in a challenge of his (by him proudly made, but on his part poorely performed.) Vndertaken and answered by George Walker pastor of S. Iohn Euangelist in Watlingstreet London Walker, George, 1581?-1651.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. aut 1624 (1624) STC 24959; ESTC S101731 26,612 52

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