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s._n augustine_n commend_v cyprian_n 16._o cyprian_n quod_fw-la autem_fw-la nâ—â—_n admonet_fw-la ut_fw-la ad_fw-la fonâ—â—m_fw-la recurramus_fw-la id_fw-la optimum_fw-la est_fw-la aug_n l._n 5._o de_fw-fr bapt._n cont_n donat._n c._n 16._o because_o he_o will_v have_v recourse_n in_o this_o unto_o the_o fountain_n etc._n etc._n for_o that_o be_v the_o best_a course_n and_o by_o this_o authority_n draw_v out_o of_o the_o fountain_n 5â—_n fountain_n ephes_n 4._o 5â—_n there_o be_v one_o lord_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n he_o confute_v his_o opinion_n and_o not_o only_o by_o one_o but_o 1._o but_o adjunctis_fw-la scripturaâ—m_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la ostendimus_fw-la aug._n l._n 6._o c._n 1._o we_o prove_v it_o by_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n heap_v together_o say_v s._n augustine_n and_o in_o the_o chapter_n allege_v by_o the_o jesuite_n thus_o he_o write_v â—3_n write_v contra_fw-la mandatum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la veniâ—ntes_fw-la ab_fw-la haereticis_fw-la si_fw-la jam_fw-la ab_fw-la illis_fw-la baptismum_fw-la christi_fw-la acceperint_fw-la baptiâ—antur_fw-la quia_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la sanctarum_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la ostenditur_fw-la sed_fw-la planè_fw-la ostenditur_fw-la mulâ—os_fw-la pseudo-christianos_a quamvis_fw-la non_fw-la habeant_fw-la â—andem_fw-la charitatem_fw-la cum_fw-la sanctis_fw-la sine_fw-la quâ_fw-la nihil_fw-la prosunt_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la sancta_fw-la habere_fw-la potuerint_fw-la baptismum_fw-la tamen_fw-la â—omâ—uâ—â—â—_n habere_fw-la cum_fw-la â—anctiâ—_n aug._n l._n 5._o c._n â—3_n it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o commandment_n that_o those_o shall_v be_v rebaptise_v which_o return_v from_o the_o heretic_n if_o they_o have_v the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n because_o it_o be_v not_o only_o prove_v but_o plain_o prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o holy_a scripture_n that_o many_o false_a christian_n may_v have_v the_o same_o baptism_n with_o they_o although_o they_o have_v not_o the_o same_o charity_n with_o 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5._o quaest_n 5._o be_v 1._o there_o be_v principle_n plain_o lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o many_o other_o article_n as_o of_o two_o nature_n and_o one_o person_n in_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o child_n &c_n &c_n and_o of_o many_o other_o doctrine_n not_o express_o write_v and_o yet_o firm_o draw_v from_o scripture_n such_o aâ—e_n many_o other_o point_n as_o that_o of_o the_o consubstantiality_n 126_o reply_v pag._n 126_o of_o the_o son_n with_o the_o father_n the_o proceed_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n as_o from_o one_o beginning_n that_o the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a 12._o these_o three_o point_n which_o concern_v the_o glorious_a trinity_n father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n we_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v article_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o to_o be_v write_v though_o not_o formal_o yet_o virtual_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o it_o may_v be_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o 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the_o discovery_n of_o truth_n by_o have_v the_o help_n of_o unwritten_a tradition_n join_v with_o they_o but_o as_o lambine_v in_o his_o note_n upon_o aristotle_n ethic_n observe_v 7._o observe_v plurâ—bus_fw-la verâ—â—is_fw-la haec_fw-la vox_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cvi_fw-la nulla_fw-la respondet_fw-la latina_n est_fw-la de_fw-la claranda_fw-la est_fw-la autem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v qui_fw-la â—â—s_o bonis_fw-la contentur_fw-la satisque_fw-la copiosè_fw-la instructus_fw-la est_fw-la quique_fw-la nullas_fw-la externas_fw-la opes_fw-la desiderat_fw-la lamb._n in_o arislot_n ethic._n â—â—_o c._n 7._o this_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v be_v express_v by_o more_o word_n for_o there_o be_v no_o one_o latin_a word_n that_o can_v full_o declare_v it_o he_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v conâ—ent_v with_o his_o own_o store_n and_o be_v furnish_v with_o enough_o and_o with_o abundant_a and_o desit_v no_o other_o helpâ—_n it_o be_v 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contradict_v any_o of_o these_o for_o if_o we_o go_v about_o to_o reject_v such_o custom_n as_o be_v not_o deliver_v by_o writing_n account_v they_o to_o be_v of_o little_a force_n we_o shall_v unaware_o damnage_v the_o gospel_n very_o much_o and_o bring_v the_o preach_v thereof_o unto_o a_o bare_a name_n of_o word_n neither_o be_v we_o content_v with_o such_o thing_n only_o as_o the_o apostle_n or_o the_o gospel_n do_v express_v but_o we_o say_v many_o thing_n both_o before_o consecration_n and_o after_o of_o great_a avayle_n for_o that_o mystery_n which_o we_o have_v receive_v by_o tradition_n without_o writing_n what_o a_o bullhead_n be_v this_o to_o confound_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d constitution_n and_o doctrine_n as_o if_o they_o be_v the_o same_o whereas_o they_o differ_v very_o much_o s._n basil_n in_o the_o subsequent_a word_n distinguish_v they_o say_v ibid._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d idem_fw-la ibid._n constitution_n be_v 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a_o babel_n of_o confusion_n quot_fw-la capita_fw-la tot_fw-la placita_fw-la the_o jesuite_n in_o favour_n of_o his_o cause_n corrupt_o translath_v s._n basil_n in_o this_o manner_n etc._n manner_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n the_o doctrine_n and_o institution_n which_o be_v preach_v in_o the_o church_n some_o of_o they_o we_o have_v out_o of_o the_o write_a word_n and_o some_o out_o of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereas_o s._n basil_n be_v thus_o to_o be_v translate_v the_o institution_n and_o doctrine_n which_o be_v preserve_v in_o the_o church_n these_o that_o be_v the_o doctrine_n we_o have_v out_o of_o the_o write_a word_n those_o that_o be_v the_o institution_n we_o have_v by_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n so_o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o s._n basâ—l_a in_o this_o differ_v nothing_o from_o our_o doctrine_n that_o the_o unwritten_a thing_n which_o come_v by_o tradition_n be_v the_o rite_n ceremony_n or_o institution_n which_o be_v preserve_v in_o the_o church_n of_o which_o sort_n he_o reckon_v these_o signe_v with_o the_o cross_n pray_v towards_o the_o east_n stand_v in_o prayer_n between_o easter_n and_o pentecost_n thriâ—e_o dip_v of_o the_o party_n baptize_v a_o certain_a form_n of_o prayer_n both_o before_o and_o after_o consecration_n these_o we_o confess_v be_v not_o write_v but_o they_o all_o be_v ritual_a tradition_n and_o belong_v not_o to_o our_o controversy_n the_o doctrine_n of_o which_o we_o dispute_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o write_a word_n this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o s._n baâ—il_n to_o which_o we_o subscribe_v there_o be_v one_o thing_n in_o that_o of_o s._n baâ—il_n which_o he_o utter_v unadvised_o that_o both_o the_o institution_n and_o doctrine_n have_v equal_a force_n unto_o godliness_n but_o we_o must_v consider_v that_o s._n baâ—il_n be_v in_o the_o heat_n of_o disputation_n in_o defence_n of_o these_o order_n of_o the_o church_n speak_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o after_o be_v in_o more_o cool_a blood_n he_o speak_v like_o himself_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o have_v show_v that_o some_o thing_n be_v give_v by_o word_n of_o mouth_n he_o show_v that_o those_o be_v not_o necessary_a thing_n say_v 1._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n idem_fw-la in_o râ—â—ul_n contract_n can_v 1._o concern_v thâ—se_a thing_n which_o be_v give_v without_o writing_n the_o apostle_n paul_n have_v give_v â—â—_o this_o rule_v all_o thing_n be_v lawful_a but_o all_o thing_n be_v not_o expedient_a we_o deny_v not_o the_o lawful_a use_n of_o ecclesiastical_a ordinance_n but_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v so_o expedient_a as_o to_o be_v of_o equal_a force_n unto_o godliness_n with_o the_o write_v doctrine_n this_o be_v deny_v not_o only_o by_o we_o but_o even_o by_o the_o wise_a papist_n themselves_o and_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n many_o of_o the_o unwritten_a constitution_n of_o which_o basil_n speak_v be_v not_o observe_v as_o 3._o as_o durand_n the_o ritib._n eccl._n l._n 1._o cap._n 3._o pray_v stand_v to_o the_o east_n and_o baptis_n and_o catech_v rom._n de_fw-fr baptis_n the_o thrice_o dip_v of_o the_o party_n baptize_v this_o omission_n 7._o omission_n bellat_fw-la de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la non_fw-la script_n l._n 4._o c._n 7._o bellarâ—â—â—â—_n excuse_v by_o distinguish_v the_o observation_n of_o they_o from_o the_o first_o institution_n of_o they_o and_o if_o they_o be_v not_o necessary_a for_o our_o observation_n how_o can_v they_o be_v of_o equal_a force_n unto_o godliness_n at_o last_o s._n baâ—il_n conclude_v thus_o ibid._n thus_o idem_fw-la ibid._n the_o day_n will_v fail_v 144._o reply_v p._n 144._o i_o if_o i_o shall_v take_v upon_o i_o to_o number_v up_o all_o the_o unwritten_a mystery_n of_o the_o church_n i_o ommit_v the_o rest_n only_o i_o demand_v in_o what_o write_a word_n have_v we_o the_o very_a profession_n of_o our_o faith_n to_o belâ—eve_v in_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o for_o the_o rest_n we_o have_v answer_v and_o for_o the_o profession_n of_o our_o faith_n we_o profess_v this_o faith_n that_o all_o the_o point_n of_o faith_n contain_v in_o the_o creed_n be_v teach_v we_o in_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v the_o confession_n of_o the_o jesuite_n in_o another_o 146._o another_o pag._n 146._o place_n as_o for_o example_n the_o creed_n the_o scripture_n declare_v plain_a enough_o unto_o who_o confession_n i_o may_v add_v that_o of_o cyrill_n 5â—_n cyrill_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n cyril_n catech._n 5â—_n the_o choice_n thing_n of_o the_o whole_a scripture_n be_v knit_v together_o make_v up_o the_o form_n of_o our_o creed_n and_o that_o of_o s._n augustine_n symbol_n augustine_n aug._n l._n 1._o ad_fw-la catechum_fw-la de_fw-fr symbol_n the_o word_n of_o the_o symbol_n be_v seatteâ—ed_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o from_o they_o collect_v into_o one_o so_o that_o by_o the_o profession_n of_o our_o faith_n s._n baâ—â—l_o do_v not_o mean_v the_o article_n of_o faith_n contain_v in_o the_o creed_n but_o that_o profession_n or_o manner_n of_o recite_v it_o which_o the_o church_n require_v of_o those_o that_o be_v baptize_v when_o they_o come_v to_o the_o year_n of_o discretion_n as_o we_o require_v in_o confirmation_n or_o else_o the_o whole_a frame_n syntaxe_n and_o form_n of_o word_n as_o they_o be_v kâ—it_v together_o in_o the_o creed_n and_o this_o we_o confess_v be_v not_o write_v verbatim_o altogether_o in_o any_o one_o part_n of_o scripture_n but_o it_o be_v take_v out_o of_o diverse_a part_n of_o scripture_n and_o collect_v into_o one_o form_n of_o word_n clement_n of_o alexandria_n upon_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o 144_o reply_v pag._n 144_o the_o roman_n c._n 1._o i_o deâ—ire_v to_o see_v you_o that_o i_o may_v impart_v unto_o you_o some_o spiritual_a gift_n for_o your_o confirmation_n 5._o confirmation_n clem_n alex_n stro_n l._n 5._o such_o gift_n aâ—_n these_o say_v 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already_o 14._o already_o rom._n 15._o 14._o fill_v with_o all_o knowledge_n what_o paul_n desire_v to_o impart_v unto_o they_o he_o desire_v to_o receive_v the_o same_o from_o they_o but_o i_o hope_v you_o will_v not_o say_v that_o paul_n desire_v to_o be_v teach_v any_o unwritten_a tradition_n by_o they_o eusebius_n also_o tell_v we_o â—_o we_o euseb_n â—_o 1._o de_fw-fr demoâ—str_n evang_v c._n â—_o that_o the_o disciple_n of_o our_o lord_n 14â—_n reply_v pag._n 14â—_n commend_v unto_o the_o faithful_a such_o thing_n as_o they_o learn_v of_o their_o master_n partly_o by_o writing_n and_o partly_o without_o writing_n and_o therefore_o ancyran_n therefore_o idem_fw-la coâ—t_fw-la marâ—_n episâ—_n ancyran_n the_o church_n from_o one_o end_n of_o the_o world_n unto_o a_o other_o confirm_v her_o doctrine_n by_o testimony_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o by_o unwritten_a tradition_n 12._o i_o tell_v you_o that_o eusebius_n by_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v deliver_v without_o writing_n mean_v not_o sâ—ch_a thing_n as_o be_v doctrinal_a for_o he_o commend_v 3._o commend_v 〈…〉_o in_o 1._o tiâ—_n 3._o constaâ—tine_n his_o good_a admonition_n give_v to_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a among_o which_o theodâ—ret_n relate_v this_o for_o one_o 7._o one_o theodâ—r_n l._n 1._o cap._n 7._o consult_v only_o with_o the_o scripture_n which_o do_v full_o instruct_v â—â—_o in_o such_o thing_n other_o thing_n such_o as_o be_v ritual_a may_v be_v commend_v without_o writing_n neither_o do_v eâ—sâ—bius_n say_v that_o such_o thing_n be_v deliver_v to_o the_o faithful_a without_o write_v ibid._n write_v illis_fw-la autem_fw-la qui_fw-la animas_fw-la adhuc_fw-la affectibus_fw-la obnoxias_fw-la gerebant_fw-la curationisque_fw-la indigentes_fw-la tradidisse_fw-la quae_fw-la ijs_fw-la conâ—enire_fw-la aâ—bitrabantur_fw-la idque_fw-la partim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d partim_fw-la sine_fw-la literis_fw-la euseb_n ibid._n but_o unto_o those_o who_o soul_n be_v as_o yet_o mislead_v by_o their_o affection_n 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116_o pag._n 118._o father_n be_v unbegotten_a that_o the_o sâ—nne_n be_v â—onsubst_v anâ—iall_a with_o the_o father_n and_o that_o the_o holy_a guest_n be_v to_o be_v â—â—â—red_a and_o worship_v â—â—_o 143._o pag._n 143._o god_n be_v not_o these_o thing_n general_o necessary_a for_o all_o to_o know_v again_o 11._o again_o august_n l._n de_fw-fr pastor_n c._n 11._o whatsoever_o you_o he_o be_v from_o the_o holy_a scripture_n answer_n answer_n let_v that_o savour_n well_o unto_o you_o whatsâ—ever_o be_v without_o they_o reâ—â—se_n lâ—st_v you_o wander_v in_o a_o cloud_n your_o meaning_n be_v not_o sure_a to_o hurt_v as_o by_o these_o saying_n 14â—_n reply_v p._n 14â—_n of_o s._n augustine_n see_v you_o bring_v they_o to_o so_o little_a purpose_n for_o s._n augustine_n be_v so_o far_o from_o think_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v without_o scripture_n that_o he_o assuâ—eth_v â—â—_o to_o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—try_a truth_n of_o scripture_n when_o we_o do_v that_o which_o 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thing_n our_o adversary_n be_v not_o like_o thâ—se_a heretickâ—s_n they_o confess_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v ignorant_a of_o nothing_o but_o our_o adversary_n hold_v this_o that_o there_o be_v more_o reveal_v unto_o the_o church_n which_o now_o be_v than_o be_v reveal_v unto_o the_o apostle_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v from_o hosius_n the_o cardinal_n set_v aside_o that_o part_n of_o the_o testimony_n in_o all_o thing_n elf_n they_o be_v as_o like_v those_o heretic_n as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v spit_v out_o of_o their_o mouth_n and_o therefore_o lest_o their_o agreement_n shall_v be_v discover_v the_o jesuite_n in_o his_o wisdom_n think_v it_o the_o best_a way_n not_o to_o lay_v down_o these_o word_n of_o the_o answerer_n but_o only_o to_o return_v a_o blind_a answer_n unto_o they_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o tertullian_n be_v a_o maintainer_n of_o unwritten_a 154_o reply_v pag._n
154_o tradition_n neither_o do_v he_o find_v fault_n with_o heretic_n for_o maintain_v unwritten_a tradition_n but_o only_o because_o they_o â—â—aintained_v such_o tradition_n as_o be_v unknown_a to_o the_o church_n and_o only_o know_v to_o themselves_o and_o be_v different_a or_o repugnant_a to_o the_o faith_n deliver_v in_o the_o scripture_n as_o tertullian_n ibid._n tertullian_n ibid._n confess_v that_o although_o the_o apostle_n deliver_v some_o thing_n to_o their_o domestical_a friend_n as_o i_o may_v call_v yet_o we_o â—â—â—sh_v believe_v that_o they_o do_v not_o deliver_v such_o thing_n as_o shall_v bring_v in_o another_o rule_n of_o faith_n different_a and_o repugnant_a to_o that_o which_o they_o general_o propound_v iâ—_n public_a 4._o it_o be_v confess_v that_o when_o tertullian_n be_v a_o heretic_n than_o he_o maintain_v unwritten_a tradition_n against_o the_o catholic_a doctrine_n but_o now_o write_v against_o heretic_n he_o be_v a_o bitter_a enemy_n of_o they_o and_o of_o 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sacramenti_fw-la ipse_fw-la praeceperat_fw-la si_fw-la quid_fw-la in_o tenebris_fw-la &_o in_fw-la abscondito_fw-la audissent_fw-la in_o luceâ—_n &_o in_o tectis_fw-la prâ—â—dicarent_fw-la etc._n etc._n ipse_fw-la docebat_fw-la luceâ—am_fw-la 〈◊〉_d sub_fw-la modiâ—_n abstruâ—_n liceâ—â—_n â—ed_v in_o candelaâ—_n brum_fw-la constitue_a ut_fw-la luceat_fw-la oâ—nibus_fw-la qui_fw-la â—unt_fw-la in_o domo_fw-la tertulâ—_n ibid._n the_o lord_n speak_v open_o and_o not_o in_o hide_a mystery_n he_o command_v that_o whatsoever_o they_o have_v hear_v in_o darkness_n and_o in_o secret_a they_o shall_v preach_v it_o in_o the_o light_n and_o on_o the_o housetop_n and_o again_o he_o teach_v they_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o put_v a_o candle_n under_o a_o bushel_n but_o in_o a_o candlestick_n that_o it_o may_v give_v light_n unto_o all_o that_o be_v in_o the_o house_n so_o we_o condemn_v not_o all_o unwritten_a tradition_n we_o use_v some_o and_o allow_v of_o they_o these_o we_o account_v to_o 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the_o scripture_n and_o to_o the_o tredition_n of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o maintain_v many_o hide_a mystery_n deliver_v and_o keep_v in_o tenebris_fw-la unknown_a to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o only_o make_v know_v to_o the_o papal_a faction_n final_o we_o parallel_v you_o with_o those_o heretic_n in_o this_o they_o allege_v these_o text_n we_o speak_v wisdom_n among_o they_o that_o be_v perfect_a o_o timothy_n keep_v that_o which_o be_v commit_v to_o thy_o trust_n and_o again_o that_o good_a thing_n which_o be_v commit_v unto_o thou_o keep_v the_o very_a same_o text_n do_v our_o adversary_n as_o â—_o as_o bellarm_n de_fw-fr verb._n dei_fw-la l_o 4._o c._n 5._o &_o â—_o bellarmin_n and_o this_o 158._o this_o pag_n 125._o &_o 158._o jesuite_n usual_o allege_v against_o we_o even_o unto_o the_o same_o purpose_n to_o prove_v the_o dignity_n of_o many_o mystery_n to_o be_v such_o that_o they_o require_v silence_n and_o that_o it_o be_v unmeete_a they_o shall_v be_v open_v in_o 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