Selected quad for the lemma: doctrine_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
doctrine_n	church_n	particular_a	universal_a	3,369	5	9.3348	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90624	A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk.	Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711.	1659 (1659)	Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138	152,808	253

answer_v they_o can_v not_o partly_o because_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v a_o act_n of_o many_o especial_o when_o in_o a_o assembly_n partly_o because_o whatsoever_o be_v put_v to_o suffrage_n may_v be_v determine_v by_o the_o major_a voice_n in_o case_n of_o dissent_n but_o this_o be_v impossible_a where_o there_o be_v but_o two_o for_o paul_n can_v not_o out-vote_n barnabas_n nor_o barnabas_n out-vote_n paul_n if_o paul_n have_v give_v his_o voice_n for_o one_o and_o barnabas_n have_v dissent_v and_o have_v give_v his_o voice_n for_o another_o against_o paul_n we_o ask_v who_o shall_v have_v carry_v it_o when_o the_o word_n denote_v the_o act_n of_o the_o indivisible_a god_n act_v 10_o v._o 41._o it_o be_v not_o take_v proper_o as_o it_o be_v in_o act_n 14._o 23._o but_o figurative_o as_o god_n be_v say_v to_o have_v eye_n ear_n hand_n etc._n etc._n so_o by_o a_o metaphor_n he_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o this_o answer_v his_o second_o particular_a vind._n revind_n pag._n 129._o 130._o 3._o the_o greek_n be_v as_o strong_a for_o we_o as_o the_o english_a translation_n for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d denote_v the_o people_n election_n by_o suffrage_n and_o be_v not_o so_o clear_o in_o apposition_n with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o suppose_v but_o rather_o in_o di-junction_a it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o article_n 〈◊〉_d habet_fw-la locum_fw-la in_o divisienibus_fw-la according_a to_o grammar_n and_o if_o the_o pray_n and_o fast_v relate_v not_o to_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o elder_n as_o the_o dr._n say_v pag._n 130._o but_o to_o the_o apostle_n departure_n than_o the_o whole_a verse_n may_v refer_v to_o the_o people_n for_o it_o be_v the_o usual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n to_o commend_v the_o apostle_n unto_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n by_o solemn_a prayer_n in_o such_o part_n be_v acts._n 14._o 26._o act_n 15._o 40._o and_o paul_n choose_v silas_n and_o depart_v be_v recommend_v by_o the_o brethren_n unto_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n 4._o we_o have_v prove_v that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v be_v take_v for_o election_n or_o choose_n by_o suffrage_n and_o not_o for_o ordination_n and_o thence_o infer_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n can_v not_o be_v the_o only_a person_n that_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d our_o argument_n for_o that_o inferrence_n be_v this_o that_o which_o be_v never_o in_o scripture_n give_v to_o the_o officer_n and_o be_v undoubted_o give_v to_o the_o people_n can_v be_v the_o act_n of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n only_o but_o the_o power_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o choose_v officer_n by_o suffrage_n be_v never_o in_o scripture_n give_v to_o the_o officer_n and_o be_v undoubted_o give_v to_o the_o people_n act_v 6._o ergo_fw-la the_o powe_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o choose_v officer_n by_o suffrage_n can_v be_v the_o act_n of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n only_o and_o whether_o this_o be_v a_o beg_v the_o question_n or_o a_o prove_v what_o we_o assert_v let_v the_o reader_n judge_n he_o bid_v we_o vind._n revind_n pag._n 131._o see_v if_o there_o be_v one_o word_n in_o the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n or_o titus_n for_o the_o people_n choice_n we_o turn_v it_o upon_o himself_o let_v he_o see_v if_o there_o be_v one_o word_n in_o those_o epistle_n for_o the_o officer_n choice_n or_o for_o the_o give_v the_o power_n of_o election_n unto_o officer_n what_o he_o add_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 132_o 133._o be_v to_o deny_v that_o every_o particular_a church_n be_v able_a to_o judge_v of_o the_o ability_n of_o a_o minister_n we_o have_v prove_v their_o ability_n from_o john_n 10._o v._o 4._o 5._o see_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 225._o 237._o ob._n 1._o how_o can_v they_o judge_v if_o a_o minister_n be_v able_a to_o convince_v againsay_v socinian_n or_o arminian_n or_o papist_n who_o know_v not_o what_o any_o of_o they_o hold_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 132._o answ_n 1._o it_o be_v possible_a for_o those_o to_o judge_v whether_o a_o man_n be_v able_a to_o convince_v gainsayer_n who_o know_v not_o what_o many_o of_o they_o hold_v the_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n who_o be_v administrator_n of_o ordination_n in_o england_n 10._o 20._o 30._o or_o 40_o year_n ago_o can_v not_o know_v what_o quaker_n and_o other_o blasphemer_n will_v hold_v yet_o sure_o he_o will_v not_o say_v that_o they_o can_v not_o judge_v whether_o those_o which_o they_o ordain_v be_v able_a to_o convince_v gainsayer_n and_o why_o may_v not_o a_o church_n as_o well_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v of_o a_o minister_n ability_n to_o convince_v gainsayer_n though_o it_o know_v not_o what_o socinian_n or_o arminian_o hold_v 2._o although_o some_o church_n member_n know_v not_o error_n by_o the_o name_n of_o socinian_o etc._n etc._n yet_o if_o they_o hear_v they_o broach_v they_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v that_o they_o be_v contrary_a to_o sound_v dostrine_n as_o for_o those_o which_o turn_v from_o the_o faithful_a word_n in_o matter_n fundamental_a as_o they_o be_v unfit_a to_o judge_v of_o a_o minister_n qualification_n so_o they_o be_v not_o due_o qualify_v to_o be_v church_n member_n ob._n 2._o what_o belong_v to_o christ_n sheep_n as_o christ_n sheep_n belong_v to_o every_o sheep_n but_o this_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o every_o sheep_n of_o christ._n ergo_fw-la i_o hope_v our_o brother_n will_v not_o say_v this_o belong_v to_o the_o woman_n yet_o be_v they_o christ_n sheep_n too_o nor_o that_o every_o man_n have_v ability_n if_o they_o do_v and_o will_v give_v we_o leave_v we_o will_v pick_v they_o out_o twenty_o out_o of_o every_o hundred_o etc._n etc._n vind._n revind_n pag._n 133._o answ_n 1._o if_o it_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o every_o sheep_n of_o christ_n to_o judge_v of_o ministerial_a ability_n yet_o the_o reason_n may_v be_v because_o some_o want_v a_o word_n or_o institution_n of_o christ_n to_o empower-them_a thereunto_o as_o in_o the_o case_n of_o woman_n not_o because_o they_o want_v ability_n about_o which_o the_o present_a question_n be_v 2._o it_o must_v belong_v to_o every_o sheep_n of_o christ_n if_o john_n 10._o v._o 5._o reach_v so_o far_o as_o he_o conclude_v it_o do_v pag._n 133._o for_o such_o sheep_n as_o be_v hearer_n be_v there_o assert_v to_o have_v both_o ability_n and_o liberty_n to_o judge_v what_o teacher_n they_o be_v to_o follow_v and_o who_o they_o be_v to_o avoid_v that_o one_o sell_v v._o 16._o be_v one_o specifical_o jew_n and_o gentile_n have_v one_o kind_n of_o church_n order_n not_o one_o numerical_o all_o do_v not_o make_v up_o one_o church_n of_o church_n but_o how_o he_o can_v reconcile_v his_o own_o expression_n upon_o this_o text_n and_o make_v they_o agree_v in_o one_o we_o know_v not_o for_o he_o tell_v we_o the_o text_n say_v my_o sheep_n not_o my_o fold_n what_o be_v here_o make_v to_o belong_v to_o sheep_n belong_v to_o every_o sheep_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 133._o if_o our_o brethren_n say_v the_o text_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o christ_n sheep_n as_o fold_v together_o in_o the_o church_n we_o grant_v what_o they_o say_v but_o say_v it_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o one_o fold_n ver_fw-la 16._o do_v not_o one_o of_o the_o expression_n deny_v it_o to_o be_v christ_n fold_n and_o the_o other_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v his_o fold_n that_o be_v there_o intend_a 3._o although_o this_o or_o that_o church-member_n take_v single_o may_v want_v ability_n to_o judge_v of_o ministerial_a qualification_n yet_o all_o the_o member_n of_o a_o church_n form_v according_a to_o christ_n institution_n be_v gather_v together_o in_o christ_n name_n to_o wait_v for_o counsel_n at_o his_o mouth_n in_o such_o a_o matter_n will_v be_v able_a and_o so_o it_o may_v well_o belong_v to_o they_o to_o judge_v whether_o a_o man_n hold_v fast_o the_o faithful_a word_n be_v apt_a to_o teach_v and_o be_v able_a by_o sound_a doctrine_n to_o exhort_v and_o convince_v gainsayers_a chap._n vi_o show_v that_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a church_n in_o way_n of_o reply_n to_o mr._n pool_n exception_n in_o the_o three_o first_o chapter_n of_o his_o book_n there_o come_v late_o to_o our_o hand_n a_o book_n entitle_v a_o moderate_a enquiry_n into_o the_o warrantableness_n of_o the_o preach_n of_o gift_a and_o unordained_a person_n write_v by_o mr._n poole_n at_o the_o desire_n and_o appointment_n of_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n of_o london_n in_o way_n of_o reply_n to_o some_o part_n of_o our_o book_n entitle_v the_o preacher_n sent._n we_o shall_v give_v some_o brief_a animadversion_n upon_o the_o most_o considerable_a passage_n of_o his_o book_n and_o

body_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o strange_a paradox_n for_o all_o the_o elect_a and_o call_v once_o which_o live_v before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o flesh_n and_o all_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n and_o all_o the_o elect_v unborn_a as_o well_o as_o those_o live_n in_o this_o or_o that_o age_n of_o the_o world_n belong_v to_o this_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o now_o we_o shall_v turn_v his_o argument_n upon_o himself_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o its_o latitude_n be_v the_o correlatum_fw-la or_o the_o object_n of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n but_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n include_v all_o the_o elect_a which_o live_v before_o christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o so_o before_o the_o pastoral_n office_n be_v institute_v and_o all_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n yea_o heathen_n even_o all_o the_o elect_v unborn_a ergo_fw-la all_o the_o elect_a which_o live_v before_o christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o so_o before_o the_o pastoral_n office_n be_v institute_v and_o all_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n yea_o heathen_n and_o all_o the_o elect_v unborn_a be_v the_o object_n and_o correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n who_o will_v not_o easy_o see_v the_o weakness_n of_o this_o argument_n for_o many_o member_n of_o this_o body_n be_v in_o heaven_n thousand_o of_o year_n before_o any_o be_v invest_v with_o the_o pastoral_n office_n on_o earth_n and_o sure_o they_o be_v not_o officer_n to_o those_o who_o be_v in_o heaven_n they_o have_v no_o need_n of_o their_o officr_n if_o body_n be_v take_v in_o this_o sense_n his_o major_n be_v apparent_o false_a the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o its_o latitude_n be_v not_o the_o correlatum_fw-la or_o object_n of_o the_o pastoral_a office_n 2._o if_o it_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o visible_a body_n of_o chr._n then_o his_o minor_a be_v false_a the_o body_n of_o christ_n i._n e._n his_o visible_a church_n or_o body_n do_v not_o include_v heathen_n to_o be_v convert_v even_o the_o text_n he_o allege_v evidence_v so_o much_o john_n 10._o v._o 16._o other_o sheep_n i_o have_v its_o true_a those_o be_v gentile_n heathen_n sheep_n by_o election_n but_o it_o be_v add_v which_v be_v not_o of_o this_o fold_n which_o witness_v that_o heathen_n though_o sheep_n by_o predestination_n yet_o be_v not_o fold_v into_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n it_o will_v be_v a_o unscriptural_a and_o a_o abominable_a assertion_n to_o say_v that_o heathen_n be_v member_n or_o a_o part_n of_o christ_n visible_a body_n or_o church_n which_o only_o be_v the_o correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_a office_n arg._n 2._o the_o second_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o 2_o corin._n 5._o 20._o where_o the_o reconcilable_a 13._o mr._n pool_n p._n 13._o world_n which_o consist_v of_o such_o as_o be_v yet_o without_o and_o no_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v make_v the_o chief_a object_n and_o correlatum_fw-la of_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o who_o minister_n act_n as_o ambassador_n to_o they_o they_o act_n as_o officer_n but_o minister_n preach_v as_o ambassador_n to_o heathen_n convertible_a and_o to_o be_v convert_v ergo_fw-la his_o assumption_n he_o say_v be_v evident_a for_o the_o term_n to_o be_v a_o ambassador_n be_v nothing_o el●e_v but_o to_o be_v a_o officer_n etc._n etc._n his_o assumption_n he_o will_v prove_v thus_o 1._o first_o the_o scripture_n make_v no_o difference_n between_o a_o minister_n preach_v to_o his_o own_o church_n and_o to_o other_o ergo_fw-la there_o be_v no_o difference_n 2._o even_o heathen_n be_v bind_v to_o hear_v minister_n preach_v to_o they_o and_o that_o not_o only_a ex_fw-la vi_fw-la materiae_fw-la because_o of_o the_o matter_n they_o treat_v of_o but_o virtute_fw-la muneris_fw-la by_o virtue_n of_o their_o office_n luke_n 10._o 16._o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o we_o deny_v his_o major_n minister_n may_v act_v as_o ambassador_n to_o they_o they_o do_v not_o act_v as_o officer_n towards_o in_o a_o special_a sense_n and_o it_o be_v observable_a that_o as_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v 1_o corin._n 5._o 20._o for_o we_o be_v ambassador_n so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o the_o work_n of_o a_o ambassador_n from_o a_o king_n luke_n 14._o 22._o he_o send_v a_o embassage_n and_o yet_o the_o same_o word_n be_v use_v to_o express_v the_o wicked_a act_n of_o those_o citizen_n against_o their_o king_n luke_n 19_o 4._o ●is_fw-la citizen_n hate_v he_o and_o send_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o embassage_n after_o he_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o those_o who_o be_v send_v by_o these_o citizen_n be_v officer_n or_o act_v as_o officer_n in_o a_o special_a sense_n in_o this_o message_n yet_o they_o act_v as_o ambassador_n herein_o so_o if_o gift_a man_n or_o other_o minister_n carry_v the_o message_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o heathen_n and_o the_o reconcilable_a world_n upon_o a_o command_n of_o christ_n to_o go_v with_o it_o they_o act_n as_o ambassador_n yet_o not_o as_o officer_n therein_o 2._o as_o to_o his_o minor_a in_o a_o general_a sense_n we_o grant_v that_o minister_n preach_v as_o ambassador_n to_o heathen_n i._n e._n as_o those_o that_o be_v warrant_v or_o command_v by_o christ_n to_o do_v a_o message_n of_o peace_n to_o they_o but_o in_o a_o strict_a sense_n they_o do_v not_o act_v as_o offfcer_n unto_o heathen_n as_o to_o his_o proof_n of_o his_o minor_a we_o say_v 1._o the_o scripture_n conclude_v that_o a_o officer_n do_v preach_v as_o a_o pastor_n bishop_n or_o overseer_n to_o his_o own_o church_n act_v 20._o 28._o as_o over_o it_o in_o the_o lord_n 1_o thes_n 5._o v._n 12._o it_o no_o where_o say_v that_o he_o preach_v under_o any_o such_o relation_n to_o other_o it_o lie_v upon_o mr._n pool_n to_o prove_v it_o if_o he_o will_v assert_v it_o it_o be_v strange_a unscriptural_a language_n to_o say_v that_o god_n have_v make_v officer_n overseer_n to_o heathen_n or_o set_v they_o over_o they_o where_o be_v heathen_n call_v a_o man_n flock_n if_o they_o be_v the_o object_n or_o correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_a office_n they_o must_v be_v so_o for_o pastor_n and_o flock_n be_v relative_n and_o ambassador_n if_o in_o office_n be_v the_o same_o officer_n under_o a_o other_o name_n and_o this_o answer_v his_o first_o particular_a pag._n 14._o and_o prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n make_v a_o difference_n between_o a_o minister_n preach_v to_o his_o own_o church_n and_o to_o other_o for_o it_o conclude_v his_o be_v in_o such_o a_o relation_n to_o his_o own_o church_n as_o he_o stand_v not_o in_o to_o other_o and_o thence_o must_v needs_o arise_v a_o difference_n in_o act_n 2._o heathen_n be_v bind_v to_o hear_v minister_n preach_v not_o only_o for_o their_o doctrine_n nor_o for_o their_o office_n sake_n but_o for_o christ_n sake_n who_o send_v they_o with_o that_o doctrine_n if_o they_o preach_v only_o as_o gift_a person_n not_o as_o officer_n yet_o it_o may_v apt_o be_v say_v as_o luke_n 10._o 16._o he_o that_o hear_v you_o hear_v i_o etc._n etc._n because_o they_o be_v warrant_v or_o command_v by_o christ_n to_o do_v the_o message_n and_o so_o it_o be_v not_o their_o own_o but_o christ_n he_o speak_v by_o they_o they_o be_v his_o word_n not_o they_o as_o in_o this_o instance_n a_o master_n of_o a_o family_n be_v from_o home_n may_v send_v a_o message_n by_o some_o friend_n or_o neighbour_n to_o his_o servant_n command_v some_o work_n from_o they_o if_o these_o servant_n do_v not_o hear_v those_o messenger_n they_o do_v not_o hear_v their_o master_n yet_o these_o friend_n or_o neighbour_n be_v no_o officer_n nor_o can_v act_v as_o officer_n over_o they_o either_o in_o do_v the_o message_n or_o in_o case_n of_o disobedience_n by_o inflict_v any_o punishment_n etc._n etc._n so_o if_o a_o preacher_n message_n be_v not_o hear_v christ_n be_v disobey_v therein_o concern_v maintenance_n we_o have_v speak_v in_o answer_n to_o dr._n collings_n and_o also_o elsewhere_o in_o way_n of_o reply_n to_o mr._n pool_n the_o pronounce_v of_o pardon_n and_o denounce_v of_o wrath_n upon_o believe_v or_o disobey_v in_o preach_v be_v act_n as_o we_o have_v sufficient_o prove_v that_o gift_a man_n may_v do_v without_o a_o office-relation_n arg._n 3._o if_o conversion_n of_o heathen_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o principal_a ground_n and_o end_n why_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v institute_v and_o the_o principal_a work_n of_o the_o ministry_n than_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v relate_v to_o heathen_n but_o the_o conversion_n of_o heathen_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o principal_a end_n why_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v institute_v and_o the_o principal_a work_n of_o the_o ministry_n so_o institute_v therefore_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v relate_v to_o heathen_n

etc._n the_o apostle_n be_v set_v in_o corinth_n though_o not_o limit_v or_o confine_v to_o that_o church_n all_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o depend_v upon_o the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n have_v it_o be_v say_v god_n have_v set_v in_o the_o churches_n etc._n etc._n there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o shadow_n of_o a_o argument_n hence_o for_o their_o be_v officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n and_o see_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n ver_fw-la 12._o 14._o 17._o etc._n etc._n he_o speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o body_n the_o body_n and_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o yet_o all_o natural_a body_n do_v not_o make_v one_o body_n and_o ver_fw-la 18._o god_n set_v the_o member_n in_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n yet_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_n body_n how_o can_v his_o speak_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n for_o 28._o and_o that_o in_o the_o application_n of_o the_o same_o similitude_n prove_v a_o catholic_n church_n make_v up_o of_o all_o church_n to_o evidence_n that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o they_o deny_v jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 146_o we_o ask_v whether_o if_o they_o murder_v he_o will_v not_o this_o nullify_v his_o office_n and_o if_o so_o why_o may_v not_o their_o sin_n other_o way_n make_v void_a the_o office_n also_o object_n mr._n poole_n say_v we_o confound_v the_o nullify_n of_o the_o office_n and_o the_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o 2._o he_o demand_v whether_o this_o hold_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o no_o whether_o if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n and_o that_o prove_v heretical_a and_o vote_v down_o the_o apostle_n will_v this_o make_v their_o office_n null_n or_o no_o he_o say_v this_o follow_v upon_o our_o principle_n for_o the_o church_n the_o correlate_n cease_v they_o must_v needs_o cease_v also_o &_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la and_o we_o allow_v the_o institution_n and_o constitution_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o people_n in_o the_o same_o page_n he_o tell_v the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act_v 1_o he_o add_v that_o this_o doctrine_n render_v it_o in_o the_o power_n of_o man_n lust_n and_o humour_n to_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n &_o the_o authority_n end_n and_o use_v of_o christ_n ambassador_n for_o now_o there_o be_v none_o but_o ordinary_a minister_n and_o he_o suppose_v but_o twenty_o congregation_n in_o the_o world_n and_o each_o of_o these_o may_v resolve_v several_o to_o eject_v their_o minister_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o what_o he_o express_v in_o many_o word_n mr._n poole_n pag._n 32._o 33._o ans_fw-fr 1._o we_o have_v not_o confound_v but_o clear_o distinguish_v between_o nullify_a the_o office_n and_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o as_o he_o that_o shall_v impartial_o read_v our_o book_n may_v see_v 2._o the_o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n the_o apostle_n be_v neither_o of_o man_n nor_o by_o man_n but_o be_v make_v by_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o it_o do_v belong_v only_o to_o christ_n to_o null_n their_o office_n because_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la but_o we_o can_v but_o complain_v that_o mr._n poole_n have_v here_o offer_v abundance_n of_o wrong_n to_o we_o in_o report_v to_o the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act._n 1._o and_o not_o content_v himself_o with_o sayit_n once_o he_o come_v over_o with_o it_o again_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o pag._n 32._o of_o his_o book_n whereas_o we_o have_v express_v the_o contrary_a and_o that_o in_o express_a term_n in_o speak_v to_o act_v 1._o which_o he_o say_v we_o allege_v for_o it_o let_v any_o one_o read_v our_o book_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 268._o where_o we_o use_v these_o word_n this_o be_v but_o half_a a_o election_n and_o that_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o it_o do_v not_o constitute_v mathias_n a_o apostle_n as_o appear_v because_o the_o choose_n of_o the_o one_o which_o be_v by_o god_n be_v the_o constitute_v act_n act_n 1._o 24._o etc._n etc._n by_o which_o any_o one_o may_v see_v that_o we_o deny_v the_o apostle_n to_o be_v constitute_v by_o the_o church_n and_o assert_v it_o to_o be_v by_o god_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v do_v we_o much_o injury_n in_o this_o report_n 3._o suppose_v a_o church_n murther_v its_o officer_n either_o he_o must_v say_v that_o they_o be_v officer_n after_o they_o be_v dead_a which_o be_v absurd_a or_o else_o he_o must_v grant_v that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n deny_v 4._o no_o supposition_n may_v be_v allow_v which_o impli_v a_o contradiction_n to_o any_o divine_a promise_n for_o god_n be_v faithful_a and_o therefore_o will_v restrain_v from_o every_o act_n that_o will_v render_v any_o promise_n void_a some_o supposition_n may_v be_v admit_v of_o but_o not_o such_o as_o be_v against_o promise_n otherwise_o we_o may_v answer_v he_o with_o a_o other_o himself_o suppose_v p._n 32._o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n may_v be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n if_o the_o elder_n possible_o but_o two_o or_o three_o shall_v excommunicate_v that_o whole_a church_n they_o shall_v by_o this_o juridical_a act_n how_o un_fw-we just_a soever_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o church_n mat._n 16._o 18._o as_o much_o as_o by_o his_o supposition_n the_o people_n shall_v nullify_v the_o promise_n about_o officer_n in_o such_o a_o case_n two_o or_o three_o elder_n can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v the_o universal_a church_n and_o officer_n to_o it_o also_o and_o if_o there_o be_v not_o a_o church_n &_o officer_n set_v in_o it_o either_o the_o promise_n about_o officer_n or_o the_o church_n must_v fail_v if_o supposition_n against_o promise_n be_v allow_v and_o in_o what_o a_o sad_a condition_n than_o will_v the_o church_n be_v in_o for_o there_o will_v be_v none_o to_o appeal_v to_o and_o thus_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o word_n pag._n 34_o 35._o upon_o himself_o or_o we_o may_v suppose_v that_o persecutor_n be_v most_o of_o the_o world_n may_v murder_v that_o one_o congregation_n which_o he_o improper_o call_v the_o catholic_a church_n be_v but_o few_o its_o true_a the_o act_n will_v differ_v one_o be_v a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n the_o other_o a_o juridical_a act_n but_o both_o be_v equal_o possible_a and_o so_o a_o supposition_n may_v be_v take_v from_o one_o as_o well_o as_o from_o the_o other_o and_o therefore_o he_o can_v get_v nothing_o from_o such_o supposal_n the_o monstrous_a opinion_n follow_v upon_o his_o own_o principle_n suppose_v but_o twenty_o minister_n in_o the_o world_n who_o only_o have_v power_n according_a to_o he_o to_o ordain_v and_o they_o through_o treachery_n and_o frowardness_n shall_v refuse_v to_o put_v forth_o their_o power_n for_o a_o succession_n they_o die_v and_o so_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n be_v nullify_v neither_o do_v his_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n pag._n 33._o 34._o take_v off_o this_o for_o here_o the_o case_n be_v not_o whole_o different_a here_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v as_o great_a a_o inconvenience_n to_o assert_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v give_v to_o minister_n a_o juridical_a power_n as_o they_o judge_v that_o of_o ordination_n to_o be_v by_o the_o abuse_n of_o which_o they_o may_v if_o they_o please_v disannul_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n chap._n vii_o wherein_o our_o argument_n for_o man_n being_n officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a be_v vindicate_v from_o the_o exception_n which_o mr._n pool_n bring_v against_o they_o some_o argument_n we_o use_v to_o prove_v that_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a church_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 35._o den_n yes_o the_o major_a of_o our_o first_o syllogism_n but_o meddle_v not_o with_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o and_o so_o it_o remain_v firm_a still_o to_o prove_v our_o minor_a we_o use_v this_o argument_n arg._n 1._o all_o that_o flock_n or_o church_n over_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v a_o man_n a_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n he_o be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o and_o sin_v if_o he_o do_v not_o but_o no_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o universal_a church_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la ob._n mr._n pool_n