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A26961 Much in a little, or, An abstract of Mr. Baxters plain Scripture-proof for infants church-membership or baptism with a few notes upon the anti-queries of T.G. / by the same hand that wrote the Fifty queries. Barret, John, 1631-1713.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism.; Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. Quaeries examined. 1678 (1678) Wing B1314; ESTC R14073 29,895 84

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nor yet of the Law of Works as such how can you say that it is repealed seeing no other Laws are repealed Will you say it was part of the Law of Works which knows no mercy to those who have once offended Was not Church-membership a mercy And if it was part of the Ceremonial Law what was it a type of What is the Antitype that hath succeeded it And how could this be part of the meerly Judicial Law seeing Infants were Church-members long before the time of Moses when the Jews were formed into a Common-wealth and the Judicial Laws given them And can you say that this was proper to the Jews Was it given to them only that is only to Isaac and his Seed on whom the Jewish priviledges were entailed Were not many hundreds circumcised as Church-members and among them many Infants in Abrahams family before Isaac was born and so all the Proselites with their Infants afterwards that would come in 13. Is it not clear that there is an Universal Church visible And that every one that is a Member of a particular Church is also a Member of the Universal And that the Jews Infants were Members of the Universal And that this Universal Church is not dissolved Now must not he that will affirm the whole species of Infants are cast out of the Universal visible Church prove it well And since we find that they were once in it what need we any more proof that they remain in till it can be shewn where it is revoked And is it any good consequence that is fetcht from the removal of a particular Church or of the Jews particular Church to breaking off from the Universal If a Jew had been forced into a strange Country yet had not both he and his children there been Members of the Universal Church 14. Is not that false Doctrine which makes the children of the Faithful to be in as bad or a worse condition than the Curse Deut. 28. 32 41. doth make the children of Covenant-breakers to be in Is it not said v. 4. that those that keep the Covenant are blessed in the fruit of their Body And of Covenant-breakers v. 18. 32 41. Cursed shalt thou be in the Fruit of thy Body Thy Sons and thy Daughters shall be given to another people They shall go into Captivity Now is it not a sorer curse to be put out of the whole Visible Church of Christ than to go into Captivity To be in Captivity is but a Bodily judgment directly but is it not directly a Spiritual judgment to be out of the Church 15. Doth not the Doctrine which puts Infants out of the visible Church of Christ leave them in the visible Kingdom of the Devil Doth not the World and the Church contain all mankind according to the ordinary Scripture-distribution If you say Infants may be of the invisible Church is not the visible Church wider than the invisible That ordinarily we may not judg any to be of the invisible Church who are not of the visible 16. And will you leave us no sound grounded hope of the justification or salvation of any dying Infants in the world Can we have any true ground of Christian hope that they shall be saved who are not so much as seemingly or visibly in a state of Salvation and so die To judge a thing to be what it doth not any way seem or appear to be is it not likely actually but alway virtually and interpretatively a false judgment And if they that are not of the true Church are not in a state of Salvation then will it not follow that they that seem not to be of that Church do not so much as seem to be in a state of Salvation 17. What a full plain Text is that 1 Cor. 7. 14. Are the children of Believers holy in state then ought they not to be admitted visible Church-members Are not all Divines agreed in the definition of the Church That it is a Society of persons separated from the world to God Will not this Text prove children holy by a stated separation to God Is not the constant sense of the word holy a separation to God And were not the Infants of the faithful Church-members and so holy before Christs time And is it not most probable that the Apostle speaks of the same kind of holiness which was the ordinary priviledge of the faithful before But utterly improbable that he should speak of no other holiness here but legitimation which is common to the children of Pagans And if to be holy in the Apostles sense here be no more than to be lawfully begotten then may we not call all persons holy that are not Bastards Then is not almost all the world holy Because Bastards are called clean will it therefore follow that the legitimate may be called holy The Beasts that chewed the Cud and had cloven feet were clean will you therefore say they were holy 18. When it is said Mark 10. 14. Of such is the Kingdom of God whether this be not more than they may be visible Church-Members And whether these which Christ took up in his Armes and Blessed were not Members of his visible Church Are any visibly Blest without the visible Church And is it not considerable that all the three former Evangelists make full mention of these passages of Christ Is it not evident that they were taken for Doctrines of moment for the Churches information And whether those words of Christ so plain and earnest suffer little Children to come unto me and forbid them not be not a better Plea at Judgment for our admitting Infants than any that ever yet you have brought for refusing them Turn over your Bible and see if you can find where Christ or his Apostles have said as much against our admitting Infants Church-members and then consider which way is safest Now to the Common Objections 1. If these Texts be objected Rom. 9. 8. They that are the Children of the flesh these are not the Children of God but the Children of the Promise are accounted for the Seed Eph. 2. 3. We are by Nature the Children of Wrath. To the first Text what is it the Apostle mainly drives at but that Men are not therefore saved because they are Abraham's carnal seed and consequently not because they are the carnal seed of any other And is it their certain Salvation or their Church-Membership that we dispute for in regard of Individuals And further doth the Apostle speak one word against the priviledge of those Infants whose Parents violated not Gods Covenant nor fell away If a man should affirm That all the Infants of the faithful so dying are certainly saved is there a syllable in the Text against him Were they not aged unbelievers that the Apostle excludeth here And to Eph. 2. 3. What though we are by nature the children of wrath Doth it follow that we may not
as to plead for their priviledges or would be a propagater of Christs Kingdom and forward to engage and bring in Subjects and Disciples to him Q. 2. Whereas we tell sinners of the hainous aggravation of their sins as being committed after Baptism and after their solemn Vow and Covenant made to God whether you that make Infant-Baptism a nullity dare undertake to bear the burthen of this Aggravation for them And whether you may tell sinners that we do but serve them as some serve foolish children Fright them with Bug-bears that there is no such matter they were never Baptized and therefore never sinned against their Baptism they were never so engaged to God and therefore never sinned against that engagement Will you warrant them that they never need to repent for their sinning against their Baptism and the Covenant then made Or will you bear the blame for them Q. 3. Whether it should not lie heavy on any tender conscience to add to Gods Word holding the repeal of the Ordinance of Infants Church-membership which no Scripture affirmeth to be guilty of the Churches doleful Divisions and the great grief that hereby oppresseth the hearts of so many of Gods people to censure if not unchurch all the Churches of Christ since the Apostles times or almost all And all this in contending that your own children are out of Christs visible Church How doleful is it that any Christians should be so zealous to dispute their own children out of Christs Church and to plead that they have no right to be admitted Members that they are no Disciples of Christ no Christians And whether they that are zealous in solliciting men not to engage their Children in Covenant with God may not have as many thanks from Christ as the Disciples had for keeping such from him FINIS Books Printed for and are to be sold by Tho. Parkhurst at the Bible and three Crowns in Cheapside SErmons on the whole Epistle of Saint Paul to the Colossians by Mr. I. Daille translated into English by F. S. with Dr. Thomas Goodwins and Dr. John Owens Epistles Recommendatory An Exposition of Christs Temptation on Matth. 4. and Peters Sermon to Cornelius and circumspect walking By Dr. Tho. Taylor Books 4 to The Door of Salvation opened by the Key of Regeneration by George Swinnock M. A. An Antidote against Quakerism by Steph. Scandret An Exposition on the five first Chapters of Ezekiel with useful observations thereupon by William Greenhil The Gospel-Covenant opened by Peter Bulkley Gods holy-Mind touching matters Moral which he uttered in Ten Commandments Also an Exposition on the Lords Prayer by Edward Eston B. D. The Fiery Jesuit or an Historical-Collection of the rise encrease doctrines and deeds of the Jesuits Horologiographia optica Dyaling universal and particular speculative and practical together with a description of the Court of Arts by a new Method by Silvanus Morgan The Practical Divinity of the Papist discovered to be destructive to true Religion and Mens Souls by J. Clarkson The Creatures goodness as they came out of Gods hand and the good Mans mercy to the Bruit-creatures in two Sermons by Tho. Hodges B. D. Certain considerations tending to promote Peace and Unity amongst Protestants Mediocria or the most plain and natural apprehensions which the Scripture offers concerning the great Doctrines of the Christian Religion of Election Redemption the Covenant the Law and Gospel and Perfection The Morning-Lectures against Popery or the principal Errours of the Church of Rome detected and confuted in a Morning-Lecture Preached by several Ministers of the Gospel in or near London Four useful Discourses 1. The Art of improving a full and prosperous condition for the glory of God being an 〈…〉 the Art of Contentment in three Sermons on Philip. 4. 12. 2. Christian submission on 1 Sam. 3. 18. 3. Christ a Christians life and death is gain on Philip. 1. 21. 4. The Gospel of Peace sent to the Sons of Peace in six Sermons on Luke 10. 5 6. By Jeremiah Burroughs A new Copy-Book of all sorts of useful hands The Saints Priviledge by dying by Mr. Soot The Unity and Essence of the Catholick Church-visible by Mr. Hudson The intercourse of Divine Love between Christ and the Church or the particular Believing Soul in several Lectures on the whole second Chapter of Cant. by John Collins D. D. Large 8 vo Heart-Treasure or a Treatise tending to fill and furnish the Head and Heart of every Christian with Soul enriching treasure of truths graces experiences and comforts The sure mercies of David or a second part of Heart-treasure by Oliver Heywood Heaven or Hell here in a Good or Bad Conscience by Nath. Vincent Aesop's Fables with Morals thereupon in English-Verse The Young-Mans Instructor and the Old-Mans Remembrancer being an Explanation of the Assemblies Catechism Captives bound in Chains made free by Christ their Surety both by Tho. Doolittle Eighteen Sermons Preached upon several Texts of Scripture by William Whitaker Sin the Plague of plagues or sinful sin the worst of Evils by Ralph Venning M. A. Speculum Sherlockianum or a Looking-glass in which the admirers of Mr. Sherlock may behold the Man as to his Acuracy Judgment Orthodoxy Small 8 vo A defence against the fear of Death by Zach. Crofton Gods Soveraignty displayed by W. Gearing The godly mans Ark or a City of Refuge in the day of his distress in five Sermons with Mr. Moors evidences for Heaven by Ed. Calamy The Almost-Christian discovered or the false-Professor tried and cast by M. Mead. In small 12 s. The Duty of Parents towards their Children A little Book for little Children A method and Instruction for the Art of Divine Meditation All three by Tho. White The Prisoners Prayers FINIS * In your Title page you say Fifty Queries gathered out of the works of Mr. Rich. Baxter * In Serm. on 1 Cor. 12. 1. p. 95. To which see something in my Treatise of the Covenants p 430 c. And more in Mr. Whistons Priv. Doct. of Bapt. Some Queries out of Mr. Baxters Plain Scripture-Proof for Infant-Baptism v. p. 3. v. p. 4. v. p. 5. v. p. 6. v. p. 125. v. p. 2. v. p. 6. v. p. 7. v. p. 8. v. p. 9 10. v. p. 244. v. p. 11. v. p. 12. v. p. 15. v. p. 14. v. p. 15 v. p. 16. v. p. 18. v. p. 19. v. p. 20. v. p. 21. v. p. 22. v. p. 23. v. p. 24. v. p. 26. v. p. 27. v. p. 38. v. p. 99. v. p. 40. v. p. 42. v. epistle to Bewdly p. 7. v. p. 43. v. p. 44. v. p. 45. v. p. 46. v. p. 48. v. p. 49. v. p. 50. v. p. 51. v. p. 52. v. p. 53. v. p. 55. v. p. 56. v. p. 57. v. p. 251. v. p. 58. v. p. 59. v. p. 60. v. p. 61. v. p. 70. v. p. 71. v. p. 72. v. p. 74. v. p. 82. v. p. 83. v. p. 84. v. p. 105. v. p. 106. Epistle to Bewdley pag. 7. v. p. 110. v. p. III. v. Preface p. 2 3. v. p. III. v. p. 112. v. p. 253. v. p. 178 179. v. p. 113. v. p. 250. v. p. 115. v. p. 243. v. p. 115. v. p. 116. v. p. 117. v. p. 117 118. v. p. 118. v. p. 119. v. p. 124. v. p. 125. v. p. 126. v. p. 127. v. p. 341. v. p. 128. v. p. 130. v. p. 131. v. p. 132. v. p. 290. v. p. 133. v. p. 134. v. p. 136. v. p. 135. v. p. 136. v. p. 137. v. p. 138. v. p. 144. v. p. 146. v. p. 144. v. p. 145. v. p. 146. v. p. 149. v. p. 177. v. p. 174. v. p. 160. v. p. 161. v. p. 177.
Much in a Little OR An Abstract of Mr. Baxters plain Scripture-Proof for INFANTS Church-Membership OR BAPTISM VVith a few Notes upon the Anti-queries of T. G. By the same hand that wrote the Fifty Queries LONDON Printed for Tho. Parkhurst at the Bible and three Crowns the lower end of Cheapside near Mercers-Chappel 1678. Reader WHat Artifices and assaults the Devil hath made and used to supplant the weightiest Principles to darken the most clear and comfortable Truths and to break the Peace and Concord of the Church is grown too evident to require proof And how he hath perplexed this present Doctrine of the Church-Membership and Baptism of Infants with Controversies we need not now insist upon But surely were not our little ones as well concerned and interested in the Covenant of Grace as their Parents are your strange and deep compassions towards them so rooted in Nature and cultivated and enlarged by Grace would become their dreadful torment and distress And why Infants should feel the smart 〈◊〉 dreadful punishments of the violated Law 〈◊〉 Covenant of innocent nature as is evident in their early diseases pains and death and not be capable of redress and pardon by a gracious Covenant I am yet to learn And what their capacity should be for if not to be answerably treated and regarded supposing what God by his Son and in his Gospel hath prepared and tendred to us I cannot understand All Laws consider Infants at in their Parents until maturity make them capable of chusing and acting for themselves And why we should exclude them from Covenant redresses seeing God once took them in by an Act or Law of Grace not yet repealed I am not able to conjecture Were they excluded from Gospel-Grace their Parents would want 1. That Cogent Argument which now they have to be devoted unto God themselves and to be true to such a Dedication as ever they regard the present and eternal welfare of their Infant-Seed And 2. A Soveraign Antidote against their griefs and fears when their children are removed in their Infancy For if God hath no-where promised to save our little ones by his Son to pardon them and to adopt them into his Family what can perswade us that they belong not to the Devil and that they are not gone to dwell with him when they are dead And then with what dejected hearts and looks must mournful Parents follow their deceased Infants to their Graves But I shall and need not say any more seeing this Abstract of Mr. Baxters larger and elaborate Treatise comes on this Errand to its Reader who is desired to take notice that it was ready many Months agone soon after the publication of the Anti-Queries though its own publication hath been obstructed until now Peruse and judge impartially A few Notes upon the Querist Examined YOur Anti-Queries very lately sent me by one of your party as A full Answer to the Fifty Queries I have considered impartially I hope and cannot think them worthy of a Book in Answer Yet that you might not take my Silence either for consent or for a contempt I have written these few pages here Now in the first place I must tell you Those Fifty Queries will remain unanswered until that Book of Mr. Baxters be answered to which every Query refers which for ought I know you never yet lookt into And whether your Anti-Queries so far as they concern the main point in Question be not cut off and answered again and again in that Book and divers other extant and common I leave to the judgment of indifferent Readers Further I might tell you of your playing upon the word Church Antiq. 1. p. 1. which is immediately explained in my first Query by Kingdom of God which prevents your exception And I might take notice of your newcovn'd Term Practical Ordinance which you have so often as if there were some other Ordinances speculative or not practical I might take notice of your Illogical distinction of being a Member of the Church Essentially and being a Member Formally Anti. 18. p. 14. And your not allowing an universal Visible Church Antiq. 16. p. 12. I might take notice how you misunderstand or misapply those Texts Except ye eat the Flesh of Joh. 6. 53. And Except a man be born of water Joh. 3. 5. As if the former spake of the Lords Supper and the latter of Baptism vid. Antiq. p. 5. Again I might take notice of your shooting short in many of your Antiqueries As because there was a time when Infants within the Church were not devoted to God by any such engaging sign as Circumcision or Baptism no such engaging sign being then instituted therefore Infants are not to be so solemnly devoted to God when such an engaging sin is instituted and belongeth to all within the Church And your shooting wide is plain in some others I might tell you how you have the same things over and over again Though you accuse me of continual tautologizing Antiq. 38. p. 30. I am willing the Impartial Reader should judge whether of us be most guilty here Turpe est Doctori c. I take notice of your citing Mr. Baxters Cure of Church-Divisions p. 7. no less than thrice soil in Preface and p. 10. and p. 32. yet a man may turn thrice to p. 7. in that book of Mr. Baxter for that which you refer unto and lose his labour So I take notice of your vain flourishing and braving it with Mr. T 's confident challenge both in the end of your Preface And know this c. and again Antiq. 49 p. 38 39. when also you shoot wide not one word to my Query As concerning Mr. Baxter I may say Know this that others that are sober and judicious tell him he hath clear'd those points sufficiently that any further debate concerning them is needless Further I might take notice of the many Et caetera's you have put to my Queries sometimes leaving out what was most lively to pinch yea you cut off the chief part of fiftieth and last Query without so much as an c. unless it was the Printers fault Again I might take notice where you are not very consistent with but rather contradict your self One or two places I may have occasion to observe But I must take notice of your fair concessions and I thank you for them I will not dispute it with you whether these of yours be properly called Antiqueries Let the preposition 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 be either pro or con with you I should not spend time in criticising on the word But whether in composition the word of an Apostle or Messenger of the Churches as I have heard some do call you should be both yea and nay may be a question Now what do these following Queries o● yours imply Antiq. 5. p. 4. Whether the Baptists do not as clearly assert Infants right to the grace of God in the first Edition of the Covenant made with Adam
Christianity hath not God appointed another primary more ordinary way of making Disciples of the children of the Godly viz. godly education Hath not God commanded the use of this means to all Parents that they teach them the Law of God and bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord from their childhood And may we not conclude that God appoints no means to be used from which he will ordinarily withdraw his Grace or to which he will deny his Blessing if it be used aright though the Word convert many that have neglected their Parents or have been neglected by them And further doth not experience confirm it that God frequently blesseth this means Now according to you how many thousands are there that should never be Baptized because they were not first made Disciples by Teaching according to the sense of Mat. 28. 19. which is Ministerial Teaching 5 Your ordinary practice of Baptizing by Dipping over head in cold water which you use as necessary is it not a breach of the Sixt Commandment Thou shalt not kill Being ordinarily and generally used doth it not tend directly to overthrow peoples health and lives How vain is it to say that many are appointed the use of Bathing as a Remedy against Diseases Is it an Universal Remedy yea how few Diseases have cold Baths appointed them And how many that have been tenderly brought up and take but little of the cold Air that dipping in cold weather in cold water in the course of nature would kill either presently or by casting them into some Chronical Disease Will you say if it be Gods way he will prevent the danger how great soever But hath God appointed any Ordinance contradictory to his great Moral Commands Hath he appointed any Ordinance in his Church which will destroy men except they be preserved by Miracle Will you say he hath tied himself to a constant working of Miracles which he hath not done except the Doctrine of Transubstantiation be true May we tempt God And have you duly considered what our Saviour saith Mat. 12. 7. If you had learned what this meaneth I will have Mercy and not Sacrifice ye would not have condemned the guiltless If in case of danger you should have and allow of a warm Bath should not you that are wont to call for express Scripture for Infant-Baptism be required to bring express Scripture for this warm Bath If you say they may stay till the heat of Summer where have you any Scripture for that Farther is it yet proved by any of you that Dipping was constantly used in the Scripture-times Is it plain or so much as probable that the Jaylor was dipt over head who was Baptized in the night in his house And does not the Greek word signifie to Wash as well as to Dip Is it not so taken when applied to other things as Mar. 7. 4 8 c. And is not the thing signified set forth by the phrase of Washing or Sprinkling and need the Sign exceed the thing signified See Isa 44. 3. Ezek. 36. 25. Joel 2. 28. 1 Cor. 6. 11. Tit. 3. 5. Heb. 10. 22. and 12. 24. 1 Pet. 1. 2. And if it was otherwise might it not be only occasional from a Reason proper to those hot Countries Where hath Christ appointed the measure of water or the manner of washing any more than he hath appointed in the Lords Supper what quantity of Bread and Wine each must take May not a little signifie as well as much as a clod of Earth doth in giving possession of much Lands c. 6. Is it not a breach of the seventh Commandment Thou shalt not commit Adultery to Dip persons naked or next to naked Doth not the seventh Commandment forbid all incitements to uncleanness and all immodest actions And is it not such to Baptize Women naked or next to naked Can that practice be of God which would turn Gods worship into contempt and make it ridiculous and bring a general reproach upon the Christian profession among all the Enemies of it yea among the most sober and discreet and that upon so probable grounds And to Dip persons cloathed will it not overthrow the Argument usually brought for the necessity of washing the whole Body Though the garment be washed yet may it not hinder the washing of some parts of the Body 7. What fruit of these things How many of you that instead of labouring after the winning of Souls from sin to God make it the main scope of your endeavours in publick and private to propagate your opinions How many of you make a great stir till you have brought poor Souls which is too easily done to place their Religion in being of your opinion here and being re-baptized How many of you are great hinderers of the Gospel and of the work of converting Souls making it your business to bring the Ministers of the Gospel into contempt Whether may not this be one thing that greatly confirmeth men in their enmity to the Doctrine of the Gospel and the Preachers thereof when they hear those despise the Ministry that once were constant hearors yea hear them perswading people that Ministers are Seducers false Prophets c. As if the first thing they had to learn was to sco●n their Teachers What way could be found out more effectual to make people disregard and despise the Gospel and so to ruin their own Souls than thus to teach them to vilifie the Messengers of the Gospel and perswade them that it is a vertue to reproach and forsake their Guides And whether the most of you do well that have made your Doctrine a ground of separation And that perswade people that it is a sin to hear our pretended Ministers as they have been called because they were never Baptized If you can make them believe that the Ministers are Seducers and that it is a Sin to hear them what good are they likely to receive by that Ministry And what a case was the Land in if all did believe as some of you teach And where the Gospel before prospered and Christians spent their time and conference in the edifying of each others Souls and in heavenly duties and lived together in unity and love according to the great command of Christ have not many of you when you have come turned this to vain janglings and unprofitable disputes and turned their Unity into Factions and Divisions and their Amity into Jealousies and Contentions yea how many a distracted family is there in England upon this account where one will pray and the other will not pray with him because he is unbaptized who were wont to Worship God in unity And here I would have ended Only there are two or three Queries more which offer themselves that I commend to your serious consideration Q. 1. Whether it be at all credible that Satan would be so charitable to Believers Infants