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A86328 The foundation of the font discovered to the view of all that desire to behold it. And, the baptizing of men and women when they believe (in rivers and fountains) proved to be a standing ordinance in the Church of Cchrist to the end of the world; by plain Scripture-proof. In answer to Mr. Cook's Font uncovered, for infant-baptism; and Mr. Baxter's Plain Scripture-proof for infants church-membership and baptism. With a word sometimes upon occasion to Mr. Hall's Font-guarded; which is more fully answered by Thomas Collyer. By Henry Haggar, a servant of Christ, and the congregations of his saints. Haggar, Henry. 1653 (1653) Wing H186; Thomason E711_1; ESTC R207114 109,478 143

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they_o come_v to_o year_n of_o discretion_n be_v sinful_a i_o further_o prove_v because_o they_o by_o their_o tradition_n of_o rantize_v or_o sprinkle_v babe_n before_o they_o understand_v and_o believe_v the_o gospel_n do_v make_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v to_o baptize_v man_n and_o woman_n when_o they_o believe_v and_o understand_v of_o none_o effect_n and_o so_o in_o vain_a they_o worship_v god_n and_o they_o which_o take_v his_o name_n in_o vain_a he_o will_v not_o hold_v they_o guiltless_a see_v mar._n 7.7_o 8_o 9_o matth._n 15.8_o 9_o and_o thus_o they_o bind_v two_o sin_n together_o and_o in_o the_o one_o they_o shall_v not_o go_v unpunished_a now_o to_o his_o three_o argument_n which_o be_v draw_v from_o that_o which_o he_o have_v speak_v already_o as_o he_o himself_o confess_v which_o he_o lay_v down_o thus_o that_o practice_n which_o go_v upon_o mere_a uncertainty_n and_o have_v no_o scripture-rule_n to_o guide_v it_o be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n but_o the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v of_o child_n of_o christian_n at_o age_n go_v upon_o mere_a uncertainty_n and_o have_v no_o scripture-rule_a to_o guide_v it_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n answ_n who_o will_v think_v mr._n baxter_n can_v have_v chap_v one_o argument_n into_o so_o many_o piece_n to_o multiply_v word_n for_o this_o argument_n be_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n with_o the_o two_o former_a only_o put_v down_o in_o other_o word_n but_o i_o further_o answer_v thus_o 1._o that_o to_o baptize_v man_n and_o woman_n when_o they_o believe_v be_v not_o a_o uncertain_a rule_n but_o very_o certain_a both_o from_o the_o command_n of_o christ_n and_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o mar._n 16.16_o he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v and_o act_v 2.41_o they_o that_o glad_o receive_v the_o word_n be_v baptize_v and_o add_v etc._n etc._n chap._n 8.12_o when_o they_o believe_v philip_n preach_v 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thus_o be_v mr._n baxters_n sword_n turn_v with_o the_o edge_n against_o himself_o to_o mr._n baxters_n six_o argument_n which_o be_v against_o the_o manner_n of_o baptise_v by_o dip_v the_o which_o he_o make_v a_o breach_n of_o the_o six_o commandment_n thou_o shall_v not_o kill_v and_o therefore_o no_o ordinance_n of_o god_n but_o a_o heinous_a sin_n and_o so_o exhort_v the_o magistrate_n pag._n 134._o and_o pag._n 136._o in_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o argument_n to_o destroy_v the_o anabaptist_n as_o well_o as_o highway-murderer_n to_o which_o i_o shall_v answer_v in_o order_n as_o follow_v first_o observe_v how_o mr._n baxter_n prove_v it_o murder_n he_o use_v not_o one_o scripture_n therefore_o none_o can_v believe_v he_o that_o desire_v to_o make_v the_o word_n of_o god_n a_o ground_n of_o their_o faith_n but_o he_o labour_v to_o prove_v it_o thus_o by_o affirm_v out_o of_o his_o own_o mouth_n only_o that_o its_o flat_a murder_n be_v ordinary_o use_v and_o then_o insinuate_v 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