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A27032 A second admonition to Mr. Edward Bagshaw written to call him to repentance for many false doctrines, crimes, and specially fourscore palpable untruths in matter of fact ... : with a confutation of his reasons for separation ... / by Richard Baxter ... Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1671 (1671) Wing B1400; ESTC R16242 98,253 234

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know_v it_o if_o indeed_o you_o think_v that_o all_o their_o church_n be_v to_o be_v separate_v from_o as_o well_o as_o the_o parish_n church_n if_o this_o be_v your_o mind_n i_o suppose_v you_o be_v but_o a_o preacher_n to_o auditor_n yourself_o and_o not_o a_o pastor_n to_o any_o church_n he_o that_o think_v no_o truth_n shall_v be_v conceal_v for_o fear_n of_o suffering_n shall_v not_o carry_v it_o in_o darkness_n and_o dissimulation_n to_o the_o pastor_n and_o church_n about_o he_o if_o real_o he_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v no_o pastor_n or_o church_n or_o not_o to_o be_v communicate_v with_o but_o i_o think_v that_o you_o better_o deserve_v to_o be_v disow_v by_o they_o than_o they_o by_o you_o certain_o few_o or_o no_o protestant_a church_n that_o i_o have_v know_v will_v say_v that_o it_o be_v restore_v to_o the_o primitive_a pattern_n and_o purity_n in_o degree_n if_o that_o therefore_o be_v your_o meaning_n you_o do_v separate_v from_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o world_n 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