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error_n in_o doctrine_n and_o abuse_n in_o practice_n for_o the_o most_o part_n steal_v in_o secret_o and_o by_o degree_n sensim_fw-la sine_fw-la sensu_fw-la and_o be_v therefore_o seldom_o discern_v and_o open_o oppose_v before_o they_o get_v head_n and_o strength_n this_o 15._o observation_n i_o owe_v to_o vincentius_n lyranensis_fw-la lâ—tenter_fw-la superinducunt_fw-la errores_fw-la quos_fw-la nec_fw-la cito_fw-la deprehendere_fw-la valeas_fw-la nec_fw-la facilè_fw-la damnare_fw-la they_o bring_v in_o error_n secret_o which_o a_o man_n can_v soon_o find_v out_o nor_o easy_o condemn_v and_o vincentius_n seem_v to_o have_v borrow_v it_o of_o 1._o tertullian_n nihil_fw-la magis_fw-la curant_fw-la quâ—m_fw-la ut_fw-la occultent_fw-la quod_fw-la praedicant_fw-la sitamen_fw-la praedicant_fw-la quod_fw-la occultant_fw-la they_o seek_v nothing_o more_o then_o to_o hide_v that_o which_o they_o preach_v if_o yet_o they_o may_v be_v say_v to_o preach_v that_o they_o hide_v and_o again_o 3._o 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