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A47331 The judgment of private discretion in matters of religion defended in a sermon on I Thessal. v. 21, preached at St. Pauls Covent-Garden, Feb. xxiii, 1686 [ie. 1687] / by Richard Kidder. Kidder, Richard, 1633-1703. 1687 (1687) Wing K406; ESTC R16673 16,256 40

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ought not to be taken upon trust because their salvation depends upon it If this chance to be false they may blindly give themselves up to a guide who may lead them to the regions of darkness 3. Supposing there were any truth in this principle yet it would be of no use to us unless we were also directed to the Church and guides to whom we are to surrender our selves Supposing we were bound to believe as the Church believes and blindly to follow our Priests yet if we do not know what Church is to be thus trusted and what Priests thus to be confided in and under what profession we are to doe it we shall be at as great a loss as ever For it cannot be supposed that it is the duty of all people in every Countrey and under every Profession to doe this For Jews Christians and Infidels cannot be all under an equal obligation It is then to be considered to what Church this belongs If the Church of Rome put in she must shew a better plea than any other that may pretend and a better than any she hath produced as yet For Antiquity Succession Miracles Amplitude Prosperity Success c. these are things that may be pleaded in behalf of Jews Pagans and Infidels They will at least severally share in these pretences Let the pretence be what it will before I can admit the pretender I must judge his title good and that will destroy the principle 4. This principle invades the prerogative of God and usurps upon his peculiar He onely hath a direct dominion over the Consciences of men Jam. 4.12 He is the one lawgiver who is able to save and to destroy We are obliged to believe a verity because he saith it There must be a revelation before a divine faith Men have not power to make articles of faith or to require our assent upon presumption of such power 5. Many things in Religion are so plain that a man of ordinary capacity and competently instructed in the principles of Religion is able to judge of them But this principle destroys that power and supposeth men unable to judge in the plainest cases whatsoever From the Writers of the Romish Church we hear much of the obscurity of the Scriptures I grant that there are some things in them hard to be understood and every man therefore is not fit to interpret them God hath appointed an order of men to doe this Eph. 4.11 He hath given some Apostles some Prophets Evangelists Pastors and Teachers not to hoodwink the people and lead them out of the way but for the perfecting of the Saints and for the edifying of the body of Christ and preserving the people from the sleight of men and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive This is the great purpose of the institution 'T is for the instruction and building up of the faithfull But our way is generally plain and there we need no guide if we use our eyes and mind our rule Matters of faith as well as manners are plainly revealed Such are all the Articles of our most ancient Creed They are so plainly taught in the H. Scriptures that he who runs may reade them there That we love God and our Neighbour are the weightier things of Religion and easie to be understood Justice and Mercy and Peaceableness are plain That we obey the King be charitable to the poor just to all men and doe as we would be done by That we use no craft or equivocations but be sincere in all our actions and professions are things not hard to be understood But if men should undertake to be guides to the people and teach them rebellion injustice cruelty dissembling and equivocation to kill their King and destroy their enemies a man of mean understanding may discern that these are not the gifts which Christ gave unto men but that they are a company of false people or rather ravenous wolves To judge of these things no man needs a guide who hath eyes in his head I shall now answer the Objections which may be brought against what I have said Obj. 1 'T is pretended that this Doctrine will introduce Heresies and Schisms into the Church And we are upbraided with Schisms and Heresies as the effect of our Doctrine On the other hand that the people who confide in their Pastors and believe as the Church believes are kept in unity and at peace To this I answer Answ 1. 'T is a fond thing to imagine that there shall be no Heresies or Schisms and that we have found a way to prevent them This is like the boast of a Mountebank who pretends to a Panacea or universal remedy for all diseases who gains small credit with wise men I grant that Heresies and Schisms are great evils and that we ought to prevent them what we can And much might be done towards it if the Ministers of Religion could as easily secure the practice as inform the minds of men But Scandals or Offences are great evils as well as Heresies Matt. 18.7 And yet Christ tells us that it must needs be that offences come And St. Paul tells us as plainly 1 Cor. 11.19 There must be also heresies among you that they which are approved may be made manifest among you God hath foretold that there should come a falling away 2 Thess 2. and that some should be under strong delusions and believe a lye It is a vain thing to pretend a remedy against that evil against which God himself hath provided none 2. To believe without examining as the present Church believes is so far from preventing Heresies that it secures men under them without any hope of emerging A blind obedience may as well detain men in Heresie as keep them in the Faith. This principle shuts men up and is so far from preventing the disease that whenever men are overtaken with it all that it does is that it hinders all remedy 3. That the principle which I have exposed being not self-evident but contestable may well be supposed to divide men about the main question It ought to be examined because it does not carry its Evidence along with it And then who can tell but that the principle which is devised to unite may chance to divide men when they go about to examine it 4. We will suppose this principle self-evident and that it hath been anciently and universally received which is by no means to be granted yet we know that it was not effectual The Gnosticks Arians and other Hereticks did infest the Primitive Church This principle then was received in the Church from the beginning or it was not If it were not it is then a new Doctrine and we are not obliged to receive it now If it were received in the ancient Church I would then know how Heresies and Schisms got into the Church Was this principle then ineffectual and shall it not now fail to be effectual Obj. 2 This
The Judgment of Private Discretion IN Matters of Religion DEFENDED IN A SERMON On 1 Thessal V. 21. Preached at St. Pauls Covent-Garden Feb. XXIII 1686. By RICHARD KIDDER IMPRIMATUR March 19 1686. Guil. Needham LONDON Printed for Brabazon Aylmer at the Three Pigeons against the Royal-Exchange in Cornhill MDCLXXXVII TO THE READER NOthing concerns us so much as the Salvation of our Souls and in order to that the choice of our Religion Here it well becomes us to use great care and strictly to examine things This we doe in matters of less moment when we purchase and when we trade when we are concerned for our Health our Estates and Properties The H. Scriptures frequently put us upon this care and the man who is diligent herein will be able to give the best account of himself hereafter and find the greatest satisfaction here Such a man will have steady Principles and have this comfort that 't is not by mere chance but choice that he is what he is This is the way to be certain that we are in the right which no man can be without understanding We may be confident indeed but can never be certain without knowledge and diligent examination of things The Church of England does not require a blind Obedience She is content Her Doctrines should be examined by the clearest light Simplicity and Truth seek not corners The H. Scriptures are allowed to the people and no means of instruction wanting among us She does not indeed vaunt of what she hath not She pretends not to any absolute Infallibility She is modest and contains Herself within due bounds and with-holds not from Her Children either the liberty or means of examining Her Doctrines But so it is that She suffers very greatly in the mean time Because She claims not Infallibility there are those who would infer that there is no certainty where the other is not But this is a wild and extravagant conclusion for the certaint● of a Thing does not depend upon the infallibility of a Person but ariseth from the evidence or clear grounds which evict its truth It does not follow that because I am fallible that I can be certain of nothing or that because I am liable to err I can never be sure I am in the right or that because I am ignorant of some things therefore I know nothing at all And yet we find it frequently pretended that Protestants want certainty and that they build upon an unsure foundation and that because they claim not that infallibility which others pretend to The best way to shew the uncertainty of our Faith would be to prove that we build on false grounds but those men who are most forward to traduce us have no great inclination to consider with due application the merits of our cause Instead of this they would have us rest upon the Authority of their Church as if the way to be more certain than we are were for us to see with other mens eyes and not with our own A man might justly expect from these men who thus declaim against Protestants that when they attempt to shew the uncertainty of their Faith they should at least prove the certainty of their own 'T will be worth our while to see if they have any better grounds for their Faith or safer way to Salvation than we have who examine our Doctrines by the H. Scriptures The best way to know this 〈…〉 Examen du livre qui porte pour ●●tre ●●●ngez ●●●●tunes 〈…〉 will be to compare them one with another They say that the desinition of the Church is our Rule where before we can be certain we must be sure of two things 1. That there is an infallible Church 2. That their Church is that infallible Church We on the other hand make the H. Scriptures our Rule and believe what they teach and here are two things also of which we must be sure 1. That what God says is true 2. That what the Scriptures reveal is from God. This is the true state of the question between us And now let any man consider impartially who builds upon the surest grounds They who build upon the Veracity of God and upon the H. Scriptures which are by all Christians owned to be the declaration of his will or they who build upon a pretence that there is an infallible Church and that their own is it The Principles on which they build are neither so evident in themselves nor yet so generally owned as ours for theirs are not so much as owned by the generality of Christians whereas ours cannot be denied by themselves And 't will appear that our way is as Easie and more Safe than theirs 'T is as easie to know what the Scripture teaches as what their Church does God intended it for the use of the people and surely then he fitted it for their use And we have great reason to believe that God can deliver his mind as plainly as a Council that he did it in all things necessary to the guidance salvation of the people for whom he wrot it This is so very evident that some of the Church of Rome have owned it Pref. part 1. pag 7. Celuy qui ne cherche dans l'Ecriture que son salut l'y trouvera The Authors of the Preface to the Testament printed at Mons declare That he who in the Scripture seeks nothing but his own Salvation shall find it there And presently afterwards speaking of some obscurity in the Scripture they add these words But that which may comfort us in this obscurity is this that according to St. Augustin the H. Scripture does propose to us after an easie and intelligible manner all that is necessary for the conduct of our life That it does explain and clear it self in expressing clearly in some places that which in others it expressed obscurely For the Doctrine of the Church 't is not very easie to know it We find at this day several representations of it from those who are all of the Communion of the Roman Church How shall the simple and unlearned man know what this Doctrine is His Curate may not be rely'd upon nor can he be secure from the judgment of any private Doctor What must he doe How shall he distinguish between the Doctrine of private Doctors and that of the Church Must he read the ancient Canons and Councils and Fathers He 'll find this an harder task than the searching of the Scriptures As our way is as easie so ' t is More safe than theirs There is danger indeed lest our lasts and worldly interests should put a byass upon us and turn us aside from the Truth but this lies on both sides But then on our side the great danger is this lest we mistake the sense of the H. Scripture here 's the great fear But then on the other side they who govern themselves by the authority of the Church are under a double danger
1. Lest they take that Church for infallible which is not 2. Lest they take that for the Doctrine of this Church which indeed is not her Doctrine We are sure that the Scriptures are God's Word and were written for our instruction and that upon our diligent search into them and humble addresses to God we shall find Salvation if we seek nothing more For the infallibility of the Church which is so much talked of it must be made good before I can be obliged to receive it and when 't is I shall readily submit to it But in the mean time I find great difficulties attending upon that Doctrine both as to the Subject of that Infallibility as to the Thing it self and as to the Grounds on which it stands As to the Subject of it I find our Adversaries are not as yet agreed where it is to be placed and therefore I know not where to sind it and then 't is all one as if there were no such thing at all That which I cannot come at will stand me in no stead Let our Adversaries tell us in whom 't is lodged Is it in the Bishop of Rome Or is it in Him and the Conclave Or in Him and a General Council Or is it in a Council without Him If in a Council must that be oecumenical only or does it reside in National and Provincial also As to the Infallibility it self I would be informed how far it reacheth Does it extend to questions of Fact as well as of Law and Right Does it take in not only necessary things but also things that are of less moment Is this Church infallible not only in her Conclusions but in the premisses too from whence those Conclusions are drawn Does this Infallibility require that the question should be examined before the matter be decided or not Is it a natural gift or is it by Grace By immediate Revelation or not Let us suppose it in a General Council yet in this case I would know whether or not this Council will be infallible in their decisions however things are carried Are there no Rules the Council is to go by Must not questions be strictly examined and the suffrages be free and the Council be Canonically indicted Or will the Council be infallible tho' it observe none of these rules and forms Let them tell us what these forms are that are necessary and let them after this make it appear that they have been duly observed or let them say if any form or rule be needfull or not How comes it to pass that the Divines in a General Council have differed from one another How comes it that one Council hath determined against another Why are some of these Councils in part received and in part rejected What sure marks have we to distinguish one from another What assurance can they give that the major part is always the better and have used the greatest care For the Grounds and proofs of this Infallibility I desire to see those that are solid and weighty such as are evident and clear and will render me infallibly certain of the thing This had need be well proved it not being self-evident If I must believe the Church in all other things yet 't is fit this should be strongly proved These proofs must be taken from the H. Scriptures and not from the authority of the Church which lays claim to it And then they must be such proofs as determine it to that very Church and as do evidently prove that such an Infallibility does belong to it as she pretends to Till these things are cleared I know not any better advice I can give the Reader than to continue stedfast in the Communion of our Church as the safest way to Heaven For tho' we ought not to want charity for others yet we are bound in conscience and as we will answer it at the great Day to choose wisely and to be constant to such a choice There are some things controverted between Vs and the Church of Rome wherein we are manifestly of the safer side To worship no Image hath no danger nor is there any hazard in receiving the Sacrament in both kinds 'T were easie to give other instances in which we are on the safer side In the mean time let it be our care to live up to our Principles and we shall not miscarry The best Church is no security to the careless and the profane We shall know the Will of God best when we doe it with great care 'T is not enough that we prove all things we must also hold fast that which is good A SERMON PREACHED At Saint Paul's Covent-Garden Feb. 23. 1686. 1 THESSAL V. 21. Prove all things hold fast that which is good IN these words the Apostle commends to those to whom he writes two things the one in order to the other First That they should prove all things Secondly That they should hold fast that which is good I begin with the first Prove all things And here I think my self obliged before I proceed any farther to consider 1. The Persons to whom the advice is given And 2. The importance of the advice it self Ch. 1. v. 1. 1. The Persons to whom this advice is given viz. to the Church of the Thess alonians Not to the Bishops and Governors of the Church only but to the People also This appears from the words v. 12. We beseech you brethren to know them which labour among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you It cannot be supposed that St. Paul does here direct himself to the head and not unto the members He does generally address himself to the Church in the most diffusive sense of that word E. G. To all that be in Rome Rom. 1.7 beloved of God called to be Saints 1 Cor. 1.2 And Vnto the Church of God which is at Corinth 2 Cor. 1.1 to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus called to be Saints with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ the Lord. Again Vnto the Church of God which is in Corinth with all the Saints which are in all Achaia Gal. 1.2 Again Vnto the Church of Galatia And Eph. 1.1 To the Saints which are at Ephesus and to the faithfull in Christ Jesus And where the Bishops and other Ministers of the Church are named the body of the faithfull are not forgotten Thus To all the Saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi with the Bishops and Deacons Phil. 1.1 Colos 1.2 Again To the Saints and faithfull brethren in Christ which are at Colosse And 1 Thes 1.1 2 Thes 1.1 Jam. 1.1 To the Church of the Thessalonians And thus also St. James To the twelve Tribes scattered abroad Thus St. Peter 1 Pet. 1.1 To the strangers scattered c. And 2 Pet. 1.1 To them that have obtained like pretious faith with us And St. John as a learned man hath observed
Deut 4. Psal 1. 2 Tim. 3. Luke 16. Act 17.11 And those men are commended who searched the Scriptures and examined the Doctrine of the primitive Preachers by them If the blind lead the blind says Christ both shall fall into the ditch Mat. 15.14 Men will not be excused because they have been misled by their guides and believed as their Church believed Ezek. 3.17 18. Ezekiel tells us that where the people are not warned they shall dye in their iniquity Religion is every man's concernment and every man is obliged to take care of his Soul and not blindly to give himself up to him that pretends to be an infallible guide Be ready always says St. Peter to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you 1 Pet. 3 15. We must then judge of the grounds of our Faith and not take it upon trust 2. I shall represent to you for the better confirming my Proposition the just Exceptions against the contrary belief viz. That the people are bound to lay aside their own discretion and intirely to give themselves up without examining to be led as their guides please I shall shew the dangerous consequences the inconsistency and vanity the impiety and unreasonableness of this principle and that in the following particulars 1. This principle is of the most dangerous consequence It would justifie the Idolatry of the Israelites which was at any time introduced upon them by their H. Priests or false Prophets or evil Kings We reade of their sacrificing in high places their worship of the golden Calf and the Calves of Dan and Bethel of their brazen Serpent and their false Gods. It was not a just excuse for them that the golden Calf was made by Aaron 2 King. 10. They were not without blame for offering upon that Altar which resembled that which was at Damascus because Vriah their H. Priest set it up and Ahaz their King commanded the use of it But we know that God was angry with them when they followed their blind guides which he would not have been had they done well in it This principle would have justified the Jews in rejecting our Saviour For who could blame them for doing that which their H. Priest and Sanhedrim their Priests and Elders had done before It is true he wrought many Miracles But to this they might reply that their Church did not believe them effected by the power of God. Indeed Jesus appeals often to the Scripture but according to this principle to this they might have pleaded that it was not for private men to understand Scripture and that their Church did understand it otherwise They might have pleaded moreover that the interpreting of Scripture did not belong to private men as they were and that they were to be governed by Tradition or the Oral Law and not by the written one onely That they had among them an H. Priest and Sanhedrim Scribes or men learned in the Law and Traditions which latter they received with equal reverence with the Written Word Joh. 7.48 Have any of the Rulers and the Pharisees believed on him say they They were so far from it that they agreed that he who confessed him to be the Christ should be put out of the Synagogue Joh. 9. Would such pretences think ye have served the turn of the Jews By no means They ought to have read the Scriptures to which Jesus appealed to have compared events with prophecies This our Lord puts them upon Joh. 5.39.45 46 47. Act. 17.11 and it was at once their duty and interest to have done it They are commended who took this course This principle might afterwards have justified the Jews in their rejecting the Christian doctrine and the Apostles and first Preachers thereof The Jews might have pleaded against the Apostles many things e. g. The undoubted antiquity of the Jewish Church and novelty of the Christian doctrine The necessity of giving themselves up to the conduct of their Priests whose lips were to preserve knowledge and they were to seek the Law at their mouth They might have pleaded that they were in the safest way to salvation for though they denied the possibility of it to the Christians yet Jesus himself owned that salvation was of the Jews They might have urged the 17th of Deuteronomy to prove the infallibility of their Church with a far greater shew than ever Thou art Peter c. was produced to prove that of the Bishop of Rome It being expresly required Deut. 17.8 10. That in matters of Controversie men should abide by the Sentence of the law pronounced by the Priest or Judge of that time whereas no such thing is said of the Bishop of Rome in the New Testament This principle would effectually have hindred the propagation of the Christian Religion among the Gentil or Pagan part of the world They had their Priests and H. Priests too as well as the Jews they had antiquity to plead and great success and prosperity under their way of worship Sequendi sunt nobis parentes qui feliciter sequuti sunt suos saith Symmachus If this principle might be allowed there could be no way left to spread the faith among them This one principle where ever admitted would have put a perpetual bar to the conversion of Jews and Infidels to the Christian Faith. For what method can we take to bring them over if we cannot convince them that we are in the right and they in the wrong And how can they be made sensible of this if we allow them not the liberty of judging And sure if they be fit to judge of the whole matter they are not unfit to judge of the severals If we allow them the liberty to judge of Christianity before they embrace it it is not reasonable to deny them a judgment of discretion when they are received into the Christian Faith. This principle admitted would have excused the people that should have continued in Arianism when the Bishops and Priests and generally the whole Church was infected with it The Arians once filled the Church called themselves Orthodox and Catholicks and others Hereticks According to this principle the people ought to have continued thus always for they were to be governed by their Bishops and Priests And why should they think themselves obliged to hearken to what you had to offer from Scripture or Reason or the Council of Nice when it was against the sense of the present Church 2. This principle not being self-evident is inconsistent and manifestly destroys it self For 't is liable to be examined and ought to be strictly examined because very much depends upon it If it may be examined by the people they who maintain it have lost their question For then the people are not obliged to despoil themselves of their faculties and wiser powers but may judge in matters of Religion this being of the most principal concernment of all This
kept from the people And they must be allowed their rule when they are obliged to prove all things If they are obliged to give a reason of their hope they must be allowed to examine its grounds 2. This serves for the reproof of those among our selves who do not use that liberty of examining which is allowed them who neither know nor will understand That are crafty and diligent in worldly affairs but supinely negligent in their truest and greatest interest Too many are wedded to their faction and fond opinions and both practice and prescribe that which they condemn in the Ch. of Rome Did they ingenuously examine things and sincerely seek the truth they might easily avoid the Errors Schisms they are now justly charged with 3. Let us then examine the grounds of our faith especially in the points controverted among us at this time then will your Communion with the Ch. of England not be the result of Chance but of Judgment and of choice I know no mark of a true Church wanting here and am sure that many things greatly commend to us her Communion First This Church does not void the necessity of an holy life It cancels none of our obligations to God or man but teacheth the absolute necessity of contrition and repentance and mortification of our lusts And does by no means indulge a liberty of living as we list Secondly She fairly proposeth her Doctrines and does not refuse to have them examined nor deprive her Children of the means of doing it by the clearest light Thirdly Nor are her Doctrines fitted to advance a secular interest or glory Religion is an holy institution heavenly in its principle and pure in its aim and disdains to stoop to mean arts for wealth and worldly dignities Fourthly This Church teacheth nothing that is manifestly false nor puts us upon any practice which is a direct violation of any divine institution Fifthly Nor does this Church want the excellent badge of charity which is indeed the bond of perfectness Religion was designed as the greatest blessing to mankind and the author of the Christian was a great lover of humane race Its precepts are full of kindness and benignity and commend the highest pitch of civility and compassion and the highest flights of friendship Sixthly As obedience to Kings and Governors is a great part of the Christian Religion and an ornament to it and was in an eminent degree practised by the first and best Christians so it is the doctrine of our Church and hath always been the practice of the members of it In a word we pray for our enemies and teach men to give both God and Caesar their due We think it safe to worship no Image and are sure we are right when we pray to God through the mediation of Jesus Christ We know that God hears but cannot say so of Saints and Angels We receive the Sacrament in both kinds as given by Christ and received by the ancient Church And do believe the Sacramental bread after consecration to be what the Apostle calls it more than once For the Doctrine of Concomitance we leave it to them who understand it We pray in a tongue we understand We follow the H. Scriptures believe the ancient Creeds nor do we reject the first general Councils We press men to piety loyalty humility and charity and earnestly desire the salvation of mankind We press men to all manner of good works but place our hope in the mercy of God and merits of his Son. If we live up to our rule we are safe If not 't is not the fault of our Religion 't is our own If we live up to our Religion we shall never be miserable in this world and in the next shall be unspeakably happy Which God of his mercy grant for the sake of Jesus Christ to whom with the Father and H. Ghost be all honour and glory now and for ever Amen FINIS
Doctrine which I maintain it may be objected will destroy that reverence which is due from the people to their Pastors and make them their Judges Answ 1 Thess 5.13 He. 13.17 1 Cor. 9.11 2 Tim. 5.17 Gal. 6.6 Matt. 104. 1. There is a great honour due from the People to their Pastors This cannot be denied They are bound to pay it by all instances of regard and kindness He that receiveth a Prophet in the name of a Prophet shall receive a Prophet's reward 1 Tim. 5.17 2. This honour hath its bounds and measures It is due for the sake of their Master and their Work and in proportion to their faithfulness and labours Let the Elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour especially they who labour in the word and doctrine But we need not put out our eyes that they may lead us whither they please nor are bound to pay that honour to the Servants and Stewards which is onely due to their Lord and Master 3. That we may give them all due honour though we do not think them infallible This the Apostle supposeth in my Text. For though he had required this esteem from the people towards their Pastors v. 13. yet he commands them to prove all things We are obliged to honour our Judges and Civil Magistrates and may truly doe it though we do not believe every sentence and determination of theirs to be according to exact truth and equity For our Judges in civil matters we are obliged to sit down by their sentence when we do not think it just we are to suffer wrong and not resist It does not hence follow that we must follow our spiritual guides without examining The Civil Magistrate determines onely our outward actions or disposeth of some of our goods and properties which we have power to alienate but he does not prescribe upon our inward sense nor touch upon our Conscience as our spiritual guides do in their commands And though we do not appeal from the Civil Magistrate it cannot hence be inferred that we think him infallible Obj. 3 But this Doctrine some will say will leave us at great uncertainty and our Salvation will be very contingent and hazardous unless we be provided of an Infallible guide without whom we cannot be safe And that God hath made a slender provision for our Souls if we be not thus provided for Answ 1. We are not fit judges of what God ought to doe but ought to thank him for what he hath done We discourse at random and very inconsequently when we undertake to say what is fit for God to doe and then infer he hath done what we judged fit for him to doe At this rate we may as well infer that God hath established a Sovereign Vmpire to decide all civil controversies about meum and tuum For since these things divide the world and are occasions of feuds and wars it may be as fairly said that this is for the interest of the world as an infallible Judge is for that of the Church Shall we then conclude that God hath appointed such an one or else he had been wanting to his Creatures 'T is for the interest of the Church that the Members of it should be free from possibility of sinning as well as of erring and yet we know God hath made no such provision An infallible guide of manners is as necessary as such a guide of controversies and yet we cannot say there is any such And then we have no cause to make such a conclusion 2. That supposing it necessary there should be an Infallible Judge yet this would doe us no good unless we could be infallibly sure of this Infallible Judge And there are two things in this case we must be infallibly certain of viz. 1. That there is some Infallible Judge 2. Who that Judge is Both these are necessary We must be sure of a treasure first and then know where it lies before we can have cause to boast of our wealth 3. That supposing the present Church of Rome were the infallible Church yet the more simple sort of people would not be for all this at any greater certainty For they would have another task upon them viz. to inquire what is the faith and what is the worship of this Church And how will they doe to find that out must they be ruled by what the ignorant and common people doe Perhaps the Church does not allow of all their practices Or shall they be governed by their Parish Priest But that Priest for what they know may err though a Pope or Council cannot Shall they be governed by common consent But there are differing customs and usages in France and Spain and other Countries to which of these shall they adhere Must they be taught by a Pope ex cathedra But how shall they know if this be a true Pope or whether he speak ex cathedra or not Or will you send these people to the Council of Trent Alas 't is a thing well known that the words of that Councils Decrees are sometime general and ambiguous and not fit to direct plain and simple people And yet Pope Pius IV. commanded that without his authority no man should explain them That no man should presume Vllos commentarios glossas annotationes Scholia ullúmve omnino interpretationis genus super ipsius Concilii decretis quocunque modo edere That is By any way to publish any Commentaries Glosses Annotations Scholia or any sort of interpretation whatsoever upon the Decrees of that Council And this under the pain of Excommunication as appears by his Bull for the confirmation of that Council For instance That Council tells us that Images are to be had in Churches and to have due honour given them What this due honour is which they allow how shall the simple man know Whether it be negative or positive honour Whether he give too much or too little Whether he divide it aright between the Image and the Prototype How can he know how to govern himself in this affair Indeed the Council says afterwards that all Superstition must be avoided But what the Superstition is which the Council disallows it does not define And therefore the plain and simple man will be at a loss how to govern himself I shall now make some application of what hath been said 1. This serves for the reproof of those who would deprive the people of that liberty which God hath given them This is to despoil them of the great prerogative of their nature and degrade them into a lower rank of being which is the greatest tyranny imaginable There is nothing so much concerns mankind as Religion and the interest of their immortal Souls We are here put upon trying or proving all things 1 Joh. 4.1 Believe not every spirit says St. John but try the spirits whether they are of God. Christ bids the Jews search the Scriptures Surely then the Scriptures are not to be