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therefore_o do_v as_o he_o say_v ibid._n p._n 18_o we_o for_o our_o part_n dare_v not_o abridge_v this_o graâ—t_n and_o limit_v this_o great_a lordship_n as_o we_o conceive_v it_o may_v best_o fit_v our_o own_o turn_n but_o â—â—ave_v it_o to_o his_o own_o latitude_n and_o seek_v for_o the_o catholic_n church_n neither_o in_o this_o part_n nor_o in_o that_o pâ—ece_n but_o among_o all_o that_o in_o every_o place_n call_v upon_o the_o nâ—mâ—_n of_o jesus_n christ_n our_o lord_n both_o they_o and_o we_o and_o if_o a_o zeal_n for_o such_o a_o general_a comprehension_n and_o happy_a union_n of_o christian_n will_v to_o use_v the_o word_n of_o mr._n de_fw-fr l'_fw-mi angâ—e_fw-mi p._n 424._o briâ—g_v down_o a_o thousand_o blessing_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n upon_o those_o that_o shall_v contribute_v the_o most_o unto_o it_o resolve_v now_o and_o hence_o forward_o to_o put_v forth_o yourself_o this_o â—ay_n put_v in_o for_o your_o share_n of_o blessing_n i_o remember_v i_o conclude_v my_o 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that_o of_o these_o sad_a controversy_n here_o will_v be_v the_o end_n proper_a material_n draw_v from_o the_o true_a and_o only_a way_n of_o concord_n etc._n etc._n query_n 1._o whether_o the_o apostle_n paul_n have_v not_o clear_o and_o full_o decide_v the_o case_n against_o censure_v or_o despise_v one_o another_o for_o thing_n indifferent_a rom._n 14_o &_o 15._o and_o if_o man_n wiâ—â—_n not_o understand_v nor_o stand_v to_o that_o decision_n whether_o it_o shall_v be_v any_o wonder_n if_o they_o will_v not_o understand_v or_o be_v satisfy_v with_o our_o most_o cogent_a argument_n second_v plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 169._o §_o 75._o whether_o they_o that_o say_v the_o apostle_n do_v not_o forbid_v such_o imposition_n there_o can_v see_v day_n for_o light_n 1._o do_v he_o not_o forbid_v censure_v despise_a and_o not_o receive_v one_o another_o and_o command_v dissenter_n to_o receive_v one_o another_o and_o then_o must_v he_o not_o forbid_v such_o imposition_n as_o be_v 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that_o will_v uphold_v such_o 7._o because_o what_o man_n do_v as_o to_o please_v god_n must_v not_o be_v condemn_v without_o necessity_n but_o a_o holy_a intention_n cherish_v so_o it_o be_v not_o in_o forbid_a thing_n 8._o because_o man_n must_v not_o go_v against_o conscience_n in_o indifferent_a thing_n 9_o from_o christ_n dreadful_a judgement_n which_o be_v near_o and_o which_o we_o ourselves_o must_v undergo_v 10._o from_o the_o sin_n of_o lay_v stumbling-block_n and_o occasion_n of_o offence_n 11._o from_o the_o danger_n of_o cross_v the_o end_n of_o christ_n death_n destroy_v soul_n for_o who_o he_o die_v 12._o because_o it_o will_v make_v our_o good_a to_o be_v ill_o speak_v of_o 13._o because_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n or_o constitution_n of_o christianity_n and_o the_o church_n lie_v in_o
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our_o silence_n or_o banishment_n rather_o than_o trouble_v man_n with_o needless_a work_n ib._n p._n 134._o q._n 61._o whether_o be_v it_o the_o paucity_n of_o ignorant_a and_o ungodly_a soul_n or_o the_o great_a number_n ability_n zeal_n and_o diligence_n of_o the_o conformist_n that_o make_v the_o labour_n of_o other_o needless_a or_o what_o be_v their_o thought_n of_o soul_n of_o sin_n of_o repentance_n of_o holiness_n and_o of_o their_o own_o sufficiency_n and_o labour_n ib._n p._n 57_o as_o of_o old_a every_o single_a church_n have_v usual_o many_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n with_o the_o bishop_n so_o be_v it_o not_o undeniable_a that_o many_o of_o our_o parish_n have_v work_n enough_o for_o many_o minister_n and_o whether_o the_o only_a thing_n pretend_v for_o our_o present_a paucity_n be_v not_o the_o want_n of_o maintenance_n with_o the_o want_n of_o worthy_a man_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 227._o q._n 62._o whether_o then_o may_v it_o not_o have_v be_v expect_v of_o such_o as_o need_v and_o desire_v the_o help_n of_o their_o brethren_n that_o long_o ere_o this_o they_o shall_v have_v petition_v ruler_n for_o the_o liberty_n of_o their_o ministry_n when_o all_o know_v that_o there_o be_v no_o hope_n their_o own_o petition_v shall_v have_v success_n whether_o may_v they_o not_o have_v humble_o acquaint_v our_o ruler_n that_o all_o our_o labour_n conjoin_v be_v too_o little_a that_o they_o need_v our_o help_n and_o the_o ignorant_a our_o teach_v that_o their_o judgement_n be_v our_o ministry_n be_v more_o necessary_a than_o our_o personal_a conformity_n and_o whether_o shall_v not_o minister_n of_o all_o man_n have_v be_v most_o sensible_a of_o the_o church_n breach_n loss_n and_o danger_n and_o most_o compassionate_a over_o people_n soul_n sacril_n desert_n p._n 135._o and_o whether_o have_v they_o not_o heal_v all_o our_o breach_n if_o they_o have_v petion_v and_o prevail_v but_o for_o these_o two_o thing_n viz._n 1._o that_o the_o door_n of_o entrance_n may_v not_o have_v be_v bar_v by_o any_o other_o subscription_n profession_n or_o oath_n than_o what_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n till_o the_o exaltation_n of_o the_o papacy_n for_o 600_o year_n beside_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n and_o supremacy_n and_o the_o subscribe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o 39_o article_n according_a to_o the_o 13_o of_o queen_n elizabeth_n 2._o that_o those_o so_o subscribe_v who_o dare_v not_o use_v the_o liturgy_n and_o ceremony_n may_v have_v leave_n to_o preach_v in_o the_o church_n which_o use_v they_o under_o law_n which_o shall_v restrain_v they_o from_o all_o unpeaceable_a opposition_n to_o what_o they_o dare_v not_o use_v or_o to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n ibid._n p._n 136_o 137._o and_o what_o but_o a_o spirit_n of_o envy_n or_o a_o carnal_a interest_n cross_n to_o the_o interest_n of_o christ_n and_o man_n salvation_n shall_v grudge_v at_o their_o preach_v while_o they_o be_v responsible_a for_o all_o they_o say_v or_o do_v amiss_o first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 249._o q._n 63._o whether_o the_o accuser_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n who_o feign_v strange_a thing_n of_o they_o relate_v to_o doctrine_n and_o government_n which_o they_o do_v not_o own_o do_v not_o 1._o hereby_o render_v they_o contemptible_a and_o odious_a as_o brainsick_a person_n who_o keep_v up_o a_o divide_v faction_n in_o spite_n of_o the_o light_n and_o obligation_n of_o the_o common_a principle_n of_o humanity_n and_o society_n 2._o and_o do_v they_o not_o hereby_o imprint_v the_o stamp_n of_o satan_n viz._n the_o hatred_n of_o their_o brethren_n on_o the_o mind_n of_o such_o hearer_n as_o will_v believe_v they_o and_o receive_v the_o impress_n 3._o and_o do_v they_o not_o hereby_o fill_v family_n city_n and_o country_n with_o all_o that_o spawn_n of_o ugly_a sin_n which_o be_v the_o genuine_a fruit_n of_o such_o hatred_n and_o contempt_n and_o keep_v man_n also_o from_o repentance_n for_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o have_v say_v or_o do_v how_o cruel_o soever_o against_o such_o minister_n and_o other_o that_o be_v represent_v as_o so_o odious_a to_o they_o 4._o and_o do_v they_o not_o hereby_o fortify_v the_o people_n soul_n against_o receive_v convert_v or_o edify_a instruction_n by_o such_o accuse_a minister_n 5._o and_o do_v they_o not_o thus_o furnish_v papist_n infidel_n and_o other_o adversary_n with_o matter_n of_o accusation_n against_o one_o part_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n judgement_n of_o nonconformist_n in_o second_o plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 21_o 22._o and_o whether_o be_v it_o not_o diabolical_a for_o any_o to_o be_v angry_a if_o as_o we_o have_v opportunity_n we_o so_o fâ—r_v undeceive_v the_o people_n as_o to_o acquaint_v they_o with_o our_o
whether_o be_v any_o bind_v to_o obey_v they_o at_o least_o when_o they_o over-rule_v christ_n own_o institution_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 111._o §_o 15._o and_o whether_o to_o devise_v new_a species_n of_o church_n without_o god_n authority_n and_o impose_v they_o on_o the_o world_n in_o his_o name_n and_o call_v all_o dissenter_n schismatic_n be_v not_o a_o far_o worse_a usurpation_n than_o to_o make_v and_o impose_v new_a ceremony_n or_o liturgy_n ibid._n §_o 16._o q._n 74._o whether_o a_o society_n of_o neighbour-christians_a associate_v with_o a_o pastor_n or_o pastor_n for_o personal_a communion_n in_o holy_a doctrine_n discipline_n and_o worship_n be_v not_o a_o church_n form_n of_o divine_a institution_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 8._o and_o whether_o any_o proof_n have_v ever_o be_v produce_v that_o many_o church_n of_o this_o first_o rank_n must_v of_o duty_n make_v one_o fix_v great_a compound_v church_n by_o association_n as_o diocesan_n national_a etc._n etc._n and_o that_o god_n have_v institute_v any_o such_o form_n whether_o the_o great_a defender_n of_o prelacy_n do_v not_o affirm_v such_o to_o be_v but_o humane_a institution_n ib._n p._n 12_o 13._o whether_o ever_o any_o satisfactory_a proof_n have_v be_v bring_v that_o ever_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n do_v institute_v any_o particular_a church_n take_v in_o a_o political_a sense_n as_o organise_v and_o not_o mere_o for_o a_o community_n without_o a_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n who_o have_v the_o power_n of_o teach_v they_o rule_v they_o by_o the_o word_n and_o power_n of_o the_o church-key_n and_o lead_v they_o in_o public_a worship_n ibid._n p._n 13._o and_o whether_o have_v it_o yet_o be_v prove_v that_o any_o one_o church_n of_o this_o first_o rank_n which_o be_v not_o a_o association_n of_o church_n consist_v in_o scripture-time_n of_o many_o much_o less_o of_o many_o score_n or_o hundred_o such_o fix_a church_n or_o congregation_n or_o that_o any_o one_o bishop_n of_o the_o first_o rank_n that_o be_v not_o a_o apostle_n or_o bishop_n of_o bishop_n have_v more_o than_o one_o of_o such_o fix_a society_n or_o church_n under_o he_o or_o may_v have_v more_o state_v member_n of_o his_o church_n than_o be_v capable_a of_o personal_a communion_n and_o mutual_a assistance_n at_o due_a season_n in_o holy_a doctrine_n discipline_n and_o worship_n as_o now_o there_o be_v many_o chapel_n in_o some_o parish_n who_o proximity_n and_o relation_n to_o the_o parish-church_n make_v they_o capable_a of_o personal_a communion_n in_o due_a season_n with_o the_o whole_a parish_n at_o lest_o per_fw-la vice_n in_o those_o church_n and_o in_o their_o conversation_n and_o as_o a_o single_a congregation_n may_v prudent_o in_o persecution_n or_o foul_a wether_n meet_v ofttimes_o in_o several_a house_n so_o why_o may_v not_o the_o great_a church_n of_o jerusalem_n which_o yet_o can_v be_v prove_v a_o quarter_n so_o big_a as_o some_o of_o our_o parish_n hold_v their_o public_a meeting_n oft_o at_o the_o same_o time_n in_o divers_a house_n when_o they_o have_v no_o temple_n and_o yet_o be_v capable_a of_o personal_a communion_n as_o before_o describe_v ibid._n p._n 13_o 14._o and_o when_o the_o learned_a dr._n hammond_n on_o 1_o tim._n 3._o say_v the_o church_n of_o the_o live_a god_n be_v every_o such_o regular_a assembly_n of_o christian_n under_o a_o bishop_n such_o as_o timothy_n be_v and_o oeconomus_fw-la set_v over_o they_o by_o christ_n etc._n etc._n do_v he_o not_o here_o suppose_v as_o he_o elsewhere_o show_v that_o the_o facto_fw-la episcopal_a church_n be_v in_o scripture-time_n but_o single_a congregation_n then_o whether_o be_v the_o new_a form_n of_o congregation_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la when_o they_o become_v but_o part_n of_o a_o bishop_n church_n and_o may_v we_o not_o query_n the_o same_o of_o the_o new_a form_n of_o a_o diocesan_n church_n ibid._n p._n 5_o 6._o and_o do_v not_o ignatius_n express_o make_v one_o altar_n and_o one_o bishop_n with_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n to_o be_v the_o note_n of_o a_o church_n unity_n and_o individuation_n whence_o learned_a mr._n joseph_n mede_n do_v argue_v it_o as_o certain_z that_o then_o a_o bishop_n church_n be_v no_o other_o than_o such_o as_o usual_o communicate_v in_o one_o place_n ibid._n p._n 17._o and_o see_v answ._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 75._o or_o 69._o q._n 75._o and_o see_v it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o god_n have_v institute_v any_o other_o than_o congregational_a or_o parochial_a church_n as_o for_o present_a communion_n whether_o must_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o none_o of_o the_o rest_n institute_v by_o man_n have_v power_n to_o deprive_v such_o single_a church_n of_o any_o of_o the_o privilege_n grant_v they_o by_o christ_n and_o whereas_o christ_n have_v make_v the_o term_n of_o catholic_n communion_n himself_o and_o have_v command_v all_o such_o to_o worship_v he_o public_o in_o holy_a communion_n under_o faithful_a pastor_n choose_v or_o at_o least_o consent_v to_o by_o themselves_o which_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n many_o hundred_o year_n whether_o can_v any_o humane_a order_n or_o power_n deprive_v they_o of_o any_o of_o this_o benefit_n or_o disoblige_v they_o from_o any_o of_o this_o duty_n by_o just_a authority_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 111._o §_o 13._o q._n 76._o then_o if_o any_o prince_n will_v turn_v his_o kingdom_n or_o a_o whole_a province_n into_o one_o only_a church_n and_o thereby_o overthrow_v all_o the_o first_o order_n of_o church_n of_o christ_n institution_n which_o be_v associate_v for_o personal_a present_a communion_n allow_v they_o no_o pastor_n that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n or_o all_o essential_a to_o their_o office_n though_o he_o shall_v allow_v parochial_a oratory_n or_o chapel_n which_o shall_v be_v no_o true_a church_n but_o part_n of_o a_o church_n whether_o be_v it_o schism_n to_o gather_v church_n within_o such_o a_o church_n against_o the_o law_n of_o such_o a_o prince_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 52._o or_o whether_o have_v god_n make_v such_o proper_a judge_n whether_o christ_n shall_v have_v church_n according_a to_o his_o law_n or_o whether_o god_n shall_v be_v worship_v and_o soul_n save_v or_o his_o own_o institution_n of_o church_n be_v observe_v ibid._n p._n 53._o q._n 77._o and_o if_o any_o person_n shall_v pretend_v to_o have_v the_o power_n of_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o inferior_a pastor_n as_o their_o bishop_n who_o be_v obtrude_v on_o those_o church_n without_o the_o election_n or_o consent_v of_o the_o people_n or_o inferior_a pastor_n and_o these_o bishop_n shall_v by_o law_n or_o mandate_n forbid_v such_o assemble_v preach_a or_o worship_n as_o otherwise_o will_v be_v lawful_a and_o a_o duty_n whether_o be_v it_o schism_n to_o disobey_v such_o law_n or_o mandate_n as_o such_o ibid._n p._n 80._o bishop_n bilson_n of_o subject_a p._n 399._o grant_v the_o election_n of_o bishop_n in_o those_o day_n belong_v to_o the_o people_n and_o not_o to_o the_o prince_n and_o though_o valens_n by_o plain_a force_n place_v lucius_n there_o yet_o may_v the_o people_n lawful_o reject_v he_o as_o no_o bishop_n and_o cleave_v to_o peter_n their_o right_a pastor_n ibid._n p._n 79._o and_o however_o in_o some_o case_n the_o advantage_n of_o some_o impose_v person_n may_v make_v it_o a_o act_n of_o prudence_n and_o so_o a_o duty_n to_o consent_v yet_o whether_o be_v such_o true_o the_o bishop_n of_o such_o church_n till_o they_o do_v consent_n ibid._n p._n 80._o have_v not_o this_o be_v take_v for_o their_o right_n give_v they_o by_o god_n and_o do_v not_o dr._n blondel_n de_fw-la jure_fw-la plebis_fw-la in_o reg._n eccl._n beyond_o exception_n prove_v it_o with_o more_o ib._n p._n 81._o therefore_o if_o bishop_n that_o have_v no_o foundation_n of_o such_o relative_n power_n shall_v impose_v inferior_a pastor_n on_o the_o parish-church_n and_o command_v the_o people_n acceptance_n and_o obedience_n whether_o be_v the_o people_n bind_v to_o accept_v and_o obey_v they_o by_o any_o authority_n that_o be_v in_o that_o command_n as_o such_o or_o whether_o be_v it_o schism_n to_o disobey_v it_o ibid._n p._n 82._o q._n 78._o whether_o do_v it_o not_o follow_v from_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o diocesan_n that_o hold_v a_o bishop_n be_v essential_a to_o a_o church_n and_o consequent_o that_o we_o have_v no_o more_o church_n than_o diocese_n that_o he_o who_o separate_v from_o a_o parish-church_n separate_v from_o no_o church_n sacril_n desert_n p._n 24._o q_o 79._o whether_o we_o shall_v not_o more_o just_o deserve_v the_o term_n of_o schismatic_n if_o we_o renounce_v communion_n with_o all_o other_o church_n except_o parochial_a and_o conformist_n and_o who_o conscience_n shall_v soon_o accuse_v he_o of_o schism_n whether_o ouâ—s_v that_o resolve_v to_o hold_v communion_n seasonable_o with_o all_o true_a christian_a church_n among_o we_o that_o