church_n parallel_v to_o corinth_n in_o all_o thing_n because_o there_o be_v the_o form_n of_o that_o sin_n which_o be_v in_o corinth_n call_v schism_n then_o if_o canseless_a separation_n from_o a_o church_n be_v ecclesiastical_a union_n causeless_o dissolve_v there_o must_v needs_o by_o consequence_n be_v schism_n also_o for_o posita_fw-la forma_fw-la ponitur_fw-la formatum_fw-la 4._o the_o doctor_n tell_v we_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o use_v in_o the_o scripture_n for_o secession_n or_o separation_n into_o party_n division_n it_o do_v signify_v but_o do_v the_o propriety_n of_o the_o word_n forbid_v it_o to_o signify_v division_n into_o party_n in_o a_o ecclesiastical_a sense_n it_o be_v use_v only_o in_o this_o particular_a example_n he_o say_v therefore_o it_o can_v signify_v no_o other_o i_o suppose_v the_o syriack_n translator_n be_v not_o of_o the_o doctor_n be_v mind_n for_o he_o use_v that_o word_n in_o the_o 11._o ch_z 18._o &_o 12._o ch_z 25._o which_o come_v from_o the_o same_o root_n with_o peleg_n gen._n 10.25_o whence_o peleg_n have_v his_o name_n the_o text_n tell_v we_o and_o i_o think_v there_o be_v division_n into_o many_o party_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o its_o primitive_a signification_n will_v carry_v a_o division_n into_o part_n matth._n 27.51_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o grant_v the_o septuagint_n see_v septuagint_n other_o greek_a version_n i_o have_v not_o to_o see_v do_v not_o use_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o 1_o kin._n 11.11_o 31._o yet_o why_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v not_o be_v translate_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o signify_v what_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v i_o know_v not_o i_o conceive_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v of_o a_o large_a signification_n than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o comprehend_v what_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v this_o appear_v 1._o by_o the_o learned_a who_o as_o they_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o findo_fw-mi scindo_fw-mi so_o they_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d findere_fw-la scindere_fw-la qui_fw-la pannum_fw-la aut_fw-la aliquod_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la continuum_fw-la dirumpit_fw-la etc._n etc._n buxt_v schind_a pagn_n merc._n hence_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v render_v scissura_fw-la so_o the_o 70._o in_o v._o 30_o &_o 31_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d scissurae_fw-la so_o the_o vulgar_a render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 31._o nor_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d always_o signify_v the_o rend_n of_o a_o thing_n into_o part_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o doctor_n be_v notion_n more_o then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o among_o the_o physician_n a_o rapture_n in_o a_o membrane_n the_o rend_n of_o a_o muscle_n they_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o the_o part_n be_v not_o separate_v from_o the_o body_n so_o gorraeus_n 2._o because_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v use_v and_o apply_v to_o such_o thing_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o new_a testament_n as_o to_o the_o rend_n of_o clothes_n here_o and_o in_o divers_a other_o text_n so_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d john_n 19.24_o matth._n 27.51_o luke_n 5.36_o john_n 21.11_o so_o that_o though_o the_o hebrew_n have_v two_o other_o word_n which_o the_o learned_a render_v scindere_fw-la findere_fw-la yet_o none_o i_o conceive_v answer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o this_o do_v there_o may_v be_v something_o in_o this_o that_o the_o arabic_a in_o the_o 11._o v._o use_n that_o verb_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whence_o the_o noun_n in_o 1_o cor._n 12.25_o come_v whence_o i_o think_v we_o may_v proper_o say_v there_o be_v a_o great_a schism_n in_o the_o church_n and_o commonwealth_n of_o israel_n and_o here_o be_v separation_n with_o a_o witness_n to_o search_v over_o other_o divine_n to_o see_v what_o they_o have_v say_v about_o schism_n i_o think_v it_o in_o vain_a because_o the_o doctor_n have_v lay_v a_o bar_n against_o they_o all_o they_o be_v all_o mistake_v and_o so_o their_o authority_n be_v worth_a nothing_o but_o when_o i_o have_v do_v two_o man_n come_v into_o my_o mind_n who_o be_v near_o to_o the_o doctor_n be_v principle_n be_v congregational_a man_n and_o therefore_o have_v need_n to_o look_v to_o themselves_o in_o their_o definition_n of_o schism_n man_n of_o great_a renown_n for_o learning_n and_o piety_n dr._n ames_n and_o our_o mr._n norton_n in_o n._n e._n in_o answer_n to_o the_o q._n quid_fw-la est_fw-la schisma_fw-la i_o find_v ames_n thus_o answer_v schisma_fw-la dicitur_fw-la a_o scindendo_fw-la &_o est_fw-la scissio_fw-la separatio_fw-la disjunctio_fw-la aut_fw-la dissolutio_fw-la vnionis_fw-la illius_fw-la quae_fw-la debet_fw-la inter_fw-la christianos_n observari_fw-la i_o be_v near_a to_o the_o doctor_n be_v definition_n then_o i_o be_v aware_a of_o but_o then_o he_o add_v quia_fw-la autem_fw-la haec_fw-la scissio_fw-la maxim_n perficitur_fw-la &_o apparet_fw-la in_o debita_fw-la communione_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la recusanda_fw-la idcirco_fw-la illa_fw-la separatio_fw-la per_fw-la appropriationem_fw-la singularem_fw-la recte_fw-la voco_fw-la schisma_fw-la thus_o he_o mr._n norton_n thus_o schisma_fw-la est_fw-la illicita_fw-la separatio_fw-la a_o communione_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la semper_fw-la grande_fw-fr malum_fw-la i_o will_v look_v no_o further_o these_o be_v sufficient_a now_o for_o the_o catholick-church_n i_o be_o to_o prove_v there_o may_v be_v schism_n in_o it_o for_o my_o groundwork_n i_o lay_v that_o text_n 1_o cor._n 12.25_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o schism_n in_o the_o body_n if_o by_o the_o body_n in_o this_o text_n be_v mean_v the_o catholick-church_n visible_a than_o schism_n may_v be_v in_o the_o catholick-church_n visible_a but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o consequence_n can_v be_v deny_v the_o antecedent_n be_v to_o be_v prove_v that_o by_o the_o body_n be_v mean_v the_o church_n the_o doctor_n yield_v schis_fw-la p._n 147._o but_o what_o church_n he_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o evident_a the_o difference_n he_o speak_v of_o in_o the_o individual_a person_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o in_o respect_n of_o office_n power_n and_o authority_n but_o gift_n and_o grace_n and_o usefulness_n on_o that_o account_n thus_o he_o but_o i_o have_v think_v that_o by_o apostle_n prophet_n teacher_n help_n government_n v._o 28._o he_o have_v proper_o speak_v of_o office_n power_n and_o authority_n be_v gift_n and_o grace_n mean_v by_o these_o word_n very_o strange_a but_o to_o come_v to_o our_o text._n if_o the_o church_n be_v here_o mean_v than_o it_o be_v either_o the_o church_n invisible_a or_o visible_a but_o not_o the_o invisible_a that_o the_o chapter_n clear_v and_o the_o doctor_n say_v it_o be_v impossible_a schism_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o invisible_a church_n if_o visible_a then_o either_o the_o catholic_n or_o a_o particular_a church_n but_o not_o a_o particular_a ergo_fw-la this_n i_o grant_v that_o by_o body_n in_o one_o text_n v._o 27._o a_o particular_a church_n be_v mention_v because_o the_o apostle_n apply_v what_o he_o have_v be_v speak_v of_o before_o to_o this_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o similar_v part_n of_o the_o church-catholick_n as_o our_o mr._n norton_n and_o other_o divine_n in_o the_o definition_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thou_o some_o physician_n make_v different_a definition_n as_o we_o respect_v the_o matter_n or_o form_n of_o a_o similar_v part_n yet_o i_o content_v myself_o with_o that_o definition_n which_o be_v common_o give_v what_o duty_n be_v enjoin_v the_o catholick-church_n or_o what_o sin_n be_v forbid_v these_o concern_v every_o particular_a church_n for_o christ_n give_v his_o law_n to_o the_o catholick-church_n primary_o no_o particular_a church_n have_v a_o special_a law_n give_v to_o it_o as_o such_o whence_o well_o may_v the_o apostle_n apply_v his_o speech_n to_o this_o particular_a church_n but_o that_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o discourse_v of_o a_o particular_a church_n in_o view_v over_o the_o chapter_n these_o argument_n persuade_v i_o 1._o it_o be_v such_o a_o body_n into_o which_o we_o be_v all_o baptize_v v._o 13._o but_o be_v we_o baptize_v into_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v that_o the_o one_o body_n the_o apostle_n mean_v let_v the_o doctor_n speak_v rev._n p._n 134._o i_o be_o so_o far_o from_o confine_v baptism_n subjective_o to_o a_o particular_a congregation_n that_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o any_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v ever_o regular_o baptize_v as_o much_o he_o seem_v to_o intimate_v schis_fw-la p._n 133._o in_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o question_n wherein_o consist_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o catholick-church_n a._n it_o be_v summon_v up_o in_o eph._n 4.5_o one_o lord_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n it_o be_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n
nature_n of_o the_o sin_n as_o logician_n shall_v do_v and_o the_o true_a definition_n of_o the_o sin_n will_v fetch_v in_o all_o particular_a act_n but_o he_o look_v upon_o they_o all_o as_o not_o give_v the_o true_a nature_n of_o schism_n according_a to_o the_o precise_a notion_n of_o scripture_n what_o then_o the_o doctor_n mean_v by_o his_o word_n to_o mr._n ca._n i_o know_v not_o these_o ground_n i_o have_v lay_v down_o will_v clear_v that_o i_o be_o not_o mistake_v in_o what_o i_o gather_v from_o he_o i_o see_v in_o his_o rev._n p._n 85._o he_o find_v fault_n with_o mr._n ca._n because_o he_o have_v say_v that_o he_o deliver_v himself_o obscure_o but_o mr._n ca._n be_v not_o the_o first_o man_n who_o i_o have_v hear_v complain_v of_o obscurity_n in_o his_o book_n but_o divers_a other_o i_o can_v set_v down_o their_o expression_n but_o forbear_v in_o several_a place_n i_o observe_v thing_n be_v not_o clear_a and_o shall_v have_v take_v some_o thing_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n mr._n ca._n have_v do_v for_o which_o the_o doctor_n blame_v he_o the_o doctor_n then_o must_v pardon_v we_o though_o poor_a country-minister_n be_v not_o so_o quick_a of_o understanding_n to_o find_v out_o his_o meaning_n so_o far_o then_o as_o i_o understand_v the_o doctor_n i_o be_o not_o in_o divers_a thing_n satisfy_v and_o in_o particular_a not_o with_o his_o definition_n which_o i_o do_v not_o look_v upon_o as_o logical_a for_o one_o rule_n of_o definition_n be_v this_o definitio_fw-la nesit_a angustior_fw-la neve_fw-la latior_fw-la svo_fw-la definito_fw-la but_o the_o doctor_n definition_n be_v angustior_fw-la svo_fw-la definito_fw-la therefore_o not_o logical_a it_o be_v angustior_fw-la in_o two_o respect_n 1._o it_o take_v not_o in_o causeless_a separation_n from_o a_o church_n which_o i_o doubt_v not_o may_v be_v schism_n 2._o it_o take_v not_o in_o the_o schism_n in_o the_o catholic_n church_n the_o doctor_n say_v there_o can_v be_v none_o whether_o there_o can_v be_v no_o schism_n from_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v a_o hard_a question_n it_o will_v seem_v rather_o to_o be_v apostasy_n as_o say_v the_o doctor_n yet_o i_o do_v almost_o think_v we_o may_v suppose_v schism_n to_o be_v from_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o that_o there_o be_v schism_n in_o the_o catholic_n church_n i_o doubt_v not_o now_o if_o these_o two_o can_v be_v make_v good_a than_o the_o doctor_n definition_n be_v not_o logical_a every_o definition_n mus_fw-la exhaurire_fw-la totam_fw-la naturam_fw-la specificam_fw-la saltem_fw-la svi_fw-la definiti_fw-la else_o not_o adequate_a nor_o reciprocal_a which_o must_v be_v 1._o then_o causeless_a separation_n from_o a_o church_n may_v be_v schism_n why_o i_o put_v in_o the_o word_n may_n i_o shall_v give_v the_o reason_n afterward_o but_o it_o may_v be_v the_o doctor_n may_v say_v that_o definition_n of_o schism_n which_o only_o agree_v with_o scripture_n that_o and_o that_o only_a be_v the_o true_a definition_n of_o schism_n but_o such_o be_v i_o ergo_fw-la the_o minor_a which_o i_o shall_v deny_v he_o prove_v from_o this_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n in_o corinth_n where_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v of_o separation_n from_o a_o church_n there_o be_v only_a division_n in_o a_o church_n the_o word_n only_o i_o put_v into_o the_o proposition_n be_v the_o doctor_n himself_o speak_v as_o much_o here_o be_v the_o chief_a and_o only_a seat_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o schism_n p._n 42._o else_o though_o i_o yield_v such_o a_o definition_n agree_v with_o a_o particular_a instance_n yet_o it_o agree_v not_o with_o the_o whole_a specifical_a nature_n of_o the_o fin_n which_o we_o be_v inquire_v into_o and_o therefore_o not_o logical_a do_v every_o scripture-instance_n give_v a_o full_a definition_n of_o the_o fin_n forbid_v the_o command_n say_v thou_o shall_v not_o steal_v in_o exod._n 22.2_o i_o find_v mention_n make_v of_o a_o thief_n break_v in_o etc._n etc._n to_o which_o christ_n allude_v mat._n 24.43_o suppose_v there_o be_v no_o other_o instance_n of_o theft_n in_o all_o the_o scripture_n shall_v i_o now_o go_v set_v forth_o a_o book_n about_o the_o true_a nature_n of_o theft_n and_o go_v to_o this_o instance_n and_o there_o ground_n my_o definition_n and_o say_v theft_n be_v a_o illegal_a and_o violent_a break_n into_o a_o man_n house_n and_o take_v away_o good_n against_o the_o owner_n will_n and_o say_v nothing_o else_o can_v be_v theft_n in_o the_o precise_a notion_n of_o scripture_n because_o the_o scripture-instance_n call_v nothing_o else_o theft_n this_o be_v strange_a be_v not_o rob_v at_o sea_n theft_n though_o no_o such_o instance_n be_v find_v in_o scripture_n that_o definition_n give_v furtum_fw-la est_fw-la ablatio_fw-la injusta_fw-la rei_fw-la alienae_n invito_fw-la domino_fw-la will_v fetch_v in_o all_o theft_n it_o be_v true_a every_o particular_a act_n of_o any_o sin_n forbid_v have_v the_o specifical_a nature_n of_o that_o sin_n in_o it_o if_o a_o man_n take_v 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that_o ordinance_n if_o he_o have_v do_v it_o may_v be_v not_o do_v it_o still_o let_v he_o give_v i_o a_o reason_n nos_fw-la vero_fw-la non_fw-la negamus_fw-la gratiam_fw-la i_o e._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d conferri_fw-la in_o ordinatione_fw-la say_v great_a chamier_n then_o imposition_n need_v not_o be_v cast_v out_o for_o this_o for_o mr._n n._n must_v prove_v it_o be_v a_o extraordinary_a gift_n which_o timothy_n have_v nothing_o of_o before_o and_o which_o this_o presbytery_n by_o imposition_n confer_v which_o i_o think_v he_o will_v not_o easy_o do_v other_o understand_v by_o prophesy_v a_o revelation_n make_v to_o paul_n concern_v timothy_n so_o beliarmin_n with_o which_o the_o thought_n of_o most_o agree_v a_o revelation_n make_v by_o some_o prophet_n which_o then_o be_v in_o the_o church_n by_o which_o he_o be_v design_v to_o the_o ministry_n loc._n in_o loc._n &_o post_fw-la ea_fw-la per_fw-la impositionem_fw-la mannum_fw-la fuit_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la confirmatus_fw-la &_o quasi_fw-la investitus_fw-la say_v gerhard_n and_o this_o the_o apostle_n mention_n both_o for_o the_o commendation_n of_o timothy_n and_o for_o his_o excuse_n be_v yet_o so_o young_a and_o else_o in_o regard_n of_o year_n unfit_a for_o so_o great_a a_o office_n see_v gerh._n ib._n for_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o thought_n of_o divine_n be_v very_o various_a but_o the_o most_o probable_a fall_n under_o one_o of_o these_o two_o head_n 1._o either_o those_o gracious_a qualification_n by_o which_o he_o be_v fit_v for_o his_o work_n or_o 2._o the_o docendi_fw-la officium_fw-la the_o very_a office_n and_o place_n unto_o which_o man_n through_o grace_n be_v fit_v so_o rom._n 12.6_o this_o be_v most_o general_o receive_v gerhard_n take_v in_o both_o but_o do_v not_o reckon_v extraordinary_a gift_n he_o say_v gratiam_fw-la docendi_fw-la exhortandi_fw-la scripturas_fw-la interpretandi_fw-la contradictores_fw-la redarguendi_fw-la i_o think_v he_o say_v true_a yet_o as_o 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