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A03691 An ansvveare made by Rob. Bishoppe of VVynchester, to a booke entituled, The declaration of suche scruples, and staies of conscience, touchinge the Othe of the Supremacy, as M. Iohn Fekenham, by vvrytinge did deliuer vnto the L. Bishop of VVinchester vvith his resolutions made thereunto. Horne, Robert, 1519?-1580.; Feckenham, John de, 1518?-1585. 1566 (1566) STC 13818; ESTC S104234 173,274 272

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of euery forraine Prince and Prelate state or Potentate This is the proposition of that part of the othe to the whiche adioyne this proposition all true subiectes ought and must beleaue an holy catholique Churche of Christe the communion of Sainctes Espy nowe what opposition is betwixt these two propositiōs y ● they may not both matche together and be verified in one true and faithful subiecte The one say you is directly against the other Then saye I there is a direct opposition repugnancy betwixt them by due examination we shall finde out the oppositiō Trie the partes of these propositions seuerally without the verbe that coupleth them together and you shall not find any opposition either contrary relatiue priuatiue or disparate ioyne them together with the verbe that coupleth being propositions they are not one against the other contrary subcontrary subalterne nor contradictory and therfore vntruly no lesse vnskilfully babled of you that the one is directly against the other when a yong scholer that hath red but the rudimentes of his Logike could haue séen iudged that there is in them no opposition or repugnancy at all To renounce and forsake Antechrist his Churche by othe or otherwise and to beleue in Christe and rightfully to acknowledge his holy catholique Churche by all maner of wayes stādeth neither directly nor indirectly one against the other but are matched together agreeth iumpe one with the other Surely your eies were not matches neither were your wittes at home whan you spied cut this repugnancy if you had not published this learned piece of worke your friendes should neuer haue knowē what an huge heape of conning knowledge is hidden in that litle head of yours The demaunde in your issue is easely proued by the description or definition of Christes true Catholique Churche The catholique Churche of Christe is a multitude societie and communion of Sainctes and faithfull ones that haue been shalbe and are nowe on liue in the earth how and wheresoeuer they be deuided and dispersed in time and place the whiche multitude of Sainctes haue a participation in common amongst them selues of all good thinges geuen graunted and growing from God through Christ of spirite faith Sacramentes prayer remission of sinnes and heauenly blisse and are vnited to Christ their head by faith and fastened togeather amongest them selues as members of one body with the bond of loue To this catholike church euery Christiā man is bounde to bee subiecte and obedient as a member ought and may be subiect and obedient to the body And we doo teache and confesse in this Churche suche an attonemēt participation and communion among all the members in doctrine faith Religion and Sacramēts that neither this nor any other Realme may lawfully dissent from this Churche or renounce and refuse to haue communion therewith as God be praised we of this Realme doo nowe shewe our selues by al Christian meanes neuer more at any time to agree and consent in the vnitie of this catholike Churche in necessary doctrine right faith true Religion and the right vse of Christes Sacramentes The foule lies that you heape together wherewith shamefully to defoyle your owne neast and natiue countrey neadeth none other confutation than onely to make them playne to be seen and iudged of all men that the Realme may be sory that euer it nestled so vnnatural and filthy a byrde and your friendes ashamed of so malicious and impudent a L●ar This is a lewde Lie that this Realme dissenteth from the catholike Church in the forenamed pointes This is a shameful Lie that by corporal othe or any other wayes we renounce and refuse to haue communion with the catholike Churche of Christe And this is a monsterous Lye that the catholike Churche is a foraine authoritie and power out of this Realme Who was euer so madde as ones to thinke or so doltishe as to speake any thing against the catholike Churche but specially to forsake it and that bicause it is a foraine power and authoritie The Othe maketh no mention in any one woorde of the Catholique Churche it speaketh of a foraigne Prince Prelate and Potentate and so of the foraigne Power and Authoritie of suche a foraigne state Wherevpon M. Fekenham concludeth as it were by Reuelation in a Monkishe dreame without rime or reason that therfore the catholike Church is forsaken as though there were no difference betwixt a foreine Prince or prelate and the Catholique Churche or that the Catholique Churche might be called a foreine Power or a forine authoritie to a Christian Realme This is suche a newe kinde of Diuinitie as was neuer hearde or redde of in any writer no not in the Legende of Golden Lyes M. Fekenham The fourth and laste pointe is that I must svveare to the obseruation of this Othe not onely to the Queenes highnes and our soueraigne Lady that novv is but also vnto her heyers and successours Kinges and Queenes of this Realme And bicause euery Christian man ought to be carefull to auoide periury therein I vvoulde right gladly knovve that if any her highnes successours shoulde by the refusall of the saide title of supremacy binde her subiectes by the like statute lavve vnto the cleane contrary experience vvhereof vvas of late made here in this Realme that it is yet freshe in the memories of al men In this case I vvoulde right gladly knovve vvhat authoritie is hable to dispence againe vvith this Othe And if there be none at all then the subiectes of this Realme in this case are bounde and that by booke Othe to liue in a continuall disobedience to the Lavves of their soueraigne Lorde or Lady Kinge or Queene the case vvherof is very Lamētable And Christian charitie vvoulde that it should be foreseene and prouided for And for mine ovvne pa●te being further touched herein than I haue yet expressed my very trust and hope is that the charity of this our nevv refourmed church here in this realme shal not be foūde so colde and short as in prouiding so sharpe lavves ●nd paines of death to force men to take this Othe of the Q. Highnes Supremacie but that it vvil prouide also such meanes and vvaies vvhereby the subiectes may receiue the same vvith salfe conscience and vvithout all per●ury And in so doynge I shall moste vvillingly submitte my selfe and receiue also that parte of the Othe And shall further thereupon set foorth the Q. Highnesse Supremacy vvith all Titles and Praeroga●iues bothe by penne and vvoorde of mouth and that vvith as desirous harte and glad vvil as any subiect that is this day liuinge in hir highnesse Realme So that of the premises ye may vvell vnderstande that there is in me no other cause of sta●e touchinge the later parte of this Othe then very Conscience And that I vvoulde before right gladly knovve touching these forenamed pointes hovve I mighte svveare vnto them and not committee periury therein The B. of Wynchester As euery Christian
that dooth euill interpreting the mynd of the Apostle to bee that the authoritie and power of Prynces hath to deale in Ecclesiasticall causes so well as in Temporall And therefore sayth to Gaudentius and to you all Blotte out these saiynges of S. Paule 13. Rom. if you can or if you cannot then set naught by them as ye doo Reteyne a most wicked meaning of all these saiynges of the Apostle least you loose your freedome in iudging or elles truely for that as men yee are ashamed so to doo before men crie out if you dare Let murtherers be punished let adulteriers be punished let all other faultes be they neuer so heynous or full of mischiefe be punished by the Magistrate wee will that onely wicked faultes against Religion be exempt from punishment by the Lawes of Kinges or rulers c. Herken to the Apostle and thou shalte haue a great aduantage that the kingely power cannot hurt thee doo well and so shalt thou haue prayse of the same power c. That thinge that yee doo is not onely not good but it is a great euill to witte to cut in sund●e the vnity and peace of Christe to rebelle against the promises of the Ghospell and to beare the Christian armes or badges as in a ciuil warre against the true and highe Kinge of the Christianes Chrysostome sheweth this reason why S. Paule doth attribute this title of a minister woorthely vnto the Kinges or ciuill Magistrates bicause that thorough frayinge of the wicked men and commendinge the good he prepareth the mindes of many to be made more appliable to the doctrine of the woorde Eusebius alluding to the sentence of S. Paule where he calleth the ciuill Magistrate Goddes minister and vnderstanding that Ministery of the ciuill Magistrate to be about Religion Ecclesiasticall causes so well as Temporal doth call Constantine the Emperour The great light and moste shrill preacher or setter foorth of true godlines The one and onely God saith he hath appointed Constantine to be his mynister and the teacher of godlines to all countreis And this same Constātine like a faithfull and good mynister did thoroughly set forth this and he did confesse himselfe manifestly to be the seruaūt and mynister of the high Kinge He preached with his imperiall decrees or proclamations his God euen to the boundes of the whole worlde Yea Constantine him selfe affirmeth as Eusebius reporteth That by his mynisterie he did put away and ouerthrowe al the euilles that pressed the worlde ▪ meaninge all superstition Idolatry false Religion In so muche saith this godly Emperour that there withal I bothe called againe mankinde taught by my mynisterie to the Religion of the most holy Lawe meanyng the woorde of God and also caused that the most blessed Faithe shoulde encrease and growe vnder a better gouernour meanyng than had beene before for saithe he I woulde not be vnthankefull to neglect namely the best mynistery whiche is the thankes Iowe vnto God of duety This most Christian Emperour did rightly consider as he had beene truely taught of the moste Christian Bishoppes of that time that as the Princes haue in chardge the mynistery and gouernment in all manner causes either Temporall or Spirituall Euen so the chiefest or best parte of their Seruice or Mynistery to consist in the well ordering of Churche matters and their diligent rule and care therein to be the most thankeful acceptable and duetifull Seruice that they can doo or owe vnto God For this cause also Nicephorus in his Preface before his Ecclesiasticall history doth compare Emanuel Paleologus the Emperour to Constantine for that he did so neerely imitate his duetifulnes in rulinge procuringe and refourminge Religion to the purenesse thereof Whiche amonge all vertues belonginge to an Emperour is moste seemely for the imperiall dignitie and dothe expresse it moste truely as Nicephorus saithe who maketh protestacion that he saithe nothinge in the commendacion of this Emperour for fauour or to flatter but as it was true in deede in him And so reherseth his noble vertues exercised in dischardge of his imperiall duetie towardes God in Churche matters sayinge to the Emperour who hath glorified God more and shewed more feruente zele towardes him in pure Religion without feyninge than thou haste doone who hath with suche feruent zeale sought after the moste syncere faithe muche endaungered or clensed againe the holy Table VVhen thou sawest our true Religion broughte into perill with newe deuises brought in by conterfaict and naughty doctrines thou diddest defende it most painefully and wisely Thou diddest shewe thy selfe to be the mighty supreme and very holy anchour and staie in so horrible waueringe and errour in diuine matters beginninge to fainte ard to peris he as it were with shipwracke Thou arte the guide of the profession of our Faithe Thou hast restored the Catholique and Vniuersall Church beinge troubled with newe matters or opinions to the olde state Thou haste banished from the Churche all vnlawfull and impure doctrine Thou hast clensed againe with the woorde of trueth the Temple from choppers and chaungers of the diuine doctrine and from hereticall deprauers thereof Thou haste beene sette on fier with a Godly zeale for the diuine Table Thou haste established the doctrine thou haste made Constitutions for the same Thou haste entrenched the trewe Religion with myghtie defenses That whiche was pulled downe thou haste made vp agayne and haste made the same whole and sounde againe with a conuenient knittinge togeather of all the partes and members to be shorte thou haste saithe Nicephorus to the Emperour establissed true Religion and godlines with spirituall butiresses namely the doctrine and rules of the auncient Fathers These and suche like Christian Emperours are not thus muche commended of the Ecclesiasticall wryters for their notable dooinges in the maintenaunce and furtheraunce of Religion as for dooinges not necessarily appertayninge to their office or callynge But for that they were examples spectacles and glasses for others wherein to beholde what they are bounde vnto by the woorde of God and what their subiectes may looke for at their handes as matter of chardge and duetie both to God and his people Whiche S. Paule doth plainely expresse where he exhorteth the Christians to make earnest and continuall prayer for kynges and all that are in authoritie to this ende and purpose that by their rule mynistrie and seruice not onely peace and tranquilitie but also godlines and Religion should be furthered and continued amongst men attributing the furtherance and continuaunce of Religion and godlynes to the Magistrates as an especial fruite and effect of their dutie and seruice to God and his people Chrysostome expounding this place of the Apostle doth interprete his meaning to be vnderstanded not onely of the outward peace tranquilitie furthered mainteined defended by the Magistrates but chiefly of the inward peace of the mynde and conscience whiche can not be atteyned without pure Religion as
Electiōs reseruations expectatiues Annates vnfit pastours pardons tythes the spiritual courtes c. beseching him to haue some redresse herein Who being moued with the admonitions aduisementes and exhortatiōs of the learned Clergy the godly Princes at the length called a councel at Triers Colayn for the redresse of these and other enormities in the yere of the Lorde 1512. whiche was the fourth yere of the reigne of the moste renoumed kinge of England king Henry the eight In this councel amongest other thinges bicause there was a suspicion of a Schisme breedinge and of greuaunces in the Church it was necessarily decreed that the Emperour and Princes electours with other Princes and states of Thempire should loke about them and wel consult by what meanes these greeues might be taken away most commodiously and the Schisme remoued and euill thinges reformed to edification It was decreed also against blasphemours to paie either a somme of money limited or to suffer death And that all men should know this decree it was thought good to the Princes and states of the Empire that al preachers and persones should at all high feastes preache vnto the people thereof faithfully This being doon Maximilian set forth a decrée for y e takinge away of the forsaid Ecclesiastical greuaunces wherein he declareth that though of clemency he haue suffered the Pope the Clergy herein as did his father Frederik Yet not withstanding sith that by his liberalitie the worshippe and seruice of God hath fallen to decaie it apperteineth vnto his dutie whome God hath chosen vnto the Emperial throne of Rome that amongest all other moste great businesses of peace and warres that he also looke about him vigilantly that the Churche perishe not that Religion decaie not that the worship of the seruice of God be not diminished c. In consideration wherof he prouideth that a man hauing in any citie a Canonship or Vicarship enioy not any prehende of an other Churche in the same citie c. making other decrées against suing in the Ecclesiasticall courtes for benefices for defence of Lay mens patronages for pensions against bulles and cloked Symony c. After this the Emperour Lewes the French king concluded together to call a general coūcel at Pise to the whiche also agreed a great part of the Popes Cardinals Many saith Sabellicus began to abhorre the Popes Courtes saying that all thinges were there defiled with filthy lucre with monstruous and wicked lustes with poysoninges Sacrileges murders and Symoniacall fayers and that Pope Iulius him selfe was a Symoniake a dronkarde a beaste a worldling and vnworthely occupied the place to the distruction of Christendome and that there was no remedy but a generall Councell to be called to helpe these mischiefes to the whiche his Cardinalles accordinge to his othe desired him but they coulde not obteyne it of hym Maximilian the Emperour being the authour of it with Lewes the Frenche king bicause the histories doo beare recorde that in times past the Emperours of Rome had wont to appointe councels they appointe a councell to be holden at Pyse Maximilian the Emperour Lewes the French king and other Princes beyonde the seas were not more carefully bent and moued by their learned men to refourme by their authoritie the abuses about Church matters thā was king Henry the eight at the same time king of Englande of most famous memory who following the hūble suites and petitions of his learned Clergy agreynge thereupon by vniforme confent in their conuocation toke vpon him that authoritie and gouernement in all maner matters or causes Ecclesiasticall which they assured him to belonge vnto his estate both by the worde of God and by the auncient Lawes of the Churche and therfore promised vnto him in verbo sacerdotii by their priesthood not to do any thing in their councelles wiehout his assent c. And this Clergie was not onely of Diuines but also of the wysest moste expert and best learned in the Ciuil and Canon Lawes that was than or hath been sence as D. Tonstal Bishop of Duresme D. Stokesley B. of Londō D. Gardiner Bishop of Wynton D. Thirleby Bishop of Westminster and after of Norwiche your olde maister D. Bonner who succeded Stokesley in the sea of Londō and many others by whose aduise consent there was at that time also a learn●d booke made published De vera differentia Regiae potestatis Ecclesiasticae whiche I doubt not but yée haue séen longe sythen Neither was this a newe deuise of theirs to please the king with al or their opinion onely but it was and is the iudgement of the moste learned Cyuilians and Canonystes that when the Cleargie are faultie or negligent it apperteyneth to the Emperour to call generall councelles for the reformation of the Churche causes as Philippus Decius a famous Lawyer affirmeth And the Glossator vppon this Canon Principes affirmeth that the Princes haue iurisdiction in diuers sortes within the Churche ouer the Cleargie when they be stubbourne ambitious subuerters of the faith falsaries makers of Schismes contemners of excommunication yea also wherein so euer the Ecclesiasticall power faileth or is to weake as in this Decree He meaneth where the power of the Churche by the woorde of doctrine preuaileth not therein must the Princes authoritie and iurisdiction take order for that is the plaine prouiso in the decrée The woordes of the decree are as followe The seculer Princes haue oftentimes within the Churche the highest authoritie that they may fence by that power the Ecclesiasticall discipline But within the Churche the powers of Princes shoulde not be necessary sauinge that that thinge whiche the Priestes are not able to dooe by the woorde of doctrine the power of the Prince may commaunde or obtaine that by the terrour of discipline The heauenly kingedome dooth oftentimes preuaile or goo forwarde by the earthly kingedome that those whiche beinge within the Churche doo against the faith and discipline may be brought vnder by the rigour of Princes and that the power of the Princes may lay vppon the neckes of the proude that same discipline whiche the profite of the Churche is not hable to exercise and that he bestowe the force of his authoritie whereby to deserue woorship Let the Princes of the worlde well knowe that they of duety shall rendre an accompte to God for the Churche whiche they haue taken of Christe to preserue For whether the peace and discipline of the Churche be encreased by faithfull Princes or it be loosed He doth exact of them an accompt who hath deliuered his Churche to be committed to their power To this effect also writeth Petrus Ferrariensis a notable learned man in y e Lawes saying Thou ignorant man thou oughtest to know that the Empire the Emperour ones in times past had bothe the swoordes to witte bothe the Temporall and Spirituall in so much that the Emperours then bestowed all the Ecclesiasticall
contrariwyse godlynes can not be had without peace and tranquilite of mynde and conscience This would be noted with good aduisement that S. Paule him selfe sheweth playnely prosperitie amongest Gods people and true Religion to be the benefites and fruites in generall that by Goddes ordinance springeth from the rule and gouernement of kynges and Magistrates vnto the weale of the people The whiche two although dyuers in them selues yet are so combyned and knyt together as it were incorporated in this one office of the Magistrate that the nouryshinge of the one is the feeding of y e other the decay of the one destroyeth or at the least deadly weakeneth them both So that one can not be in perfect good estate without the other The whiche knot and fastening together of Religion prosperitie in common weales the moste Christian and godly Emperours Theodosius and Valentinianus dyd wysely ses as appeareth in this that they wrote vnto Cyrill saiyng The suertie of our common weale dependeth vpon Goddes Religion and there is great kinred and societie betwixt these tweyne for they cleane together and the one groweth with the increase of the other in suche sorte that true Religion holpen with the indeuour of Iustice and the common weale holpen of them bothe flourisheth ●eing therefore that we are constituted of God to be the kinges and are the knitting together or ioynture of godlines and prosperitie in the subiectes we kepe the societie of these tweyne neuer to be sondred and so farre forth as by our forsight we procure peace vnto our subiectes we minister vnto the augmenting of the common weale but as we might say being seruauntes to our subiectes in all thinges that they may liue godly and be of a Religious conuersation as it becommeth godly ones we garnis he the common weale with honour hauing care as it is conuenient for them bothe for it can not be that diligently prouiding for the one we should not care in like sorte also for the other But we trauayle earnestly in this thing aboue the rest that the Ecclesiastical state may remaine sure bothe in suche sorte as is seemely for Goddes honour and fit for our tymes that it may continue in tranquilitie by common consent without variāce that it may be quiete through agreement in Ecclesiasticall matters that the godly Religion may be preserued vnreprouable and that the life of suche as are chosen into the Clergie and the great priesthood may be cleere from al fault Hitherto I haue proued playnely by the holy Scriptures and by some suche Doctours as from age to age haue wytnessed the order of Ecclesiasticall gouernement in the Churche of Christe yea by the confession testimony and example of some of the moste godly Emperours them selues that suche lyke gouernement in Churche causes as the Queenes maiestie taketh vpon her doth of dutie belonge vnto the cyuill Magistrates and Rulers and therfore they may yea they oughte to clayme and take vpon them the same Nowe remayneth that I proue this same by the continuall practise of the lyke gouernenement in some one parte of Christendome and by the generall counsayles wherein as ye affirme the right order of Ecclesiasticall gouernemēt in Christ his Church hath been moste faithfully declared and shewed from tyme to tyme. The gouernement that the Queenes maiestie taketh moste iustly vpon her in Ecclesiasticall causes is the guydyng caringe prouidyng orderyng dyrectynge and ayding the Ecclesiasticall state within her dominions to the furtheraunce mayntenaunce and settyng foorth of the true Religion vnitie quietnes of Christes Churche ouerseyng vysiting refourmyng restrayninge amendinge and correctyng all maner persones with al manner errours superstitions Heresies Schismes abuses offences contemptes and enormities in or about Christes Religion whatsoeuer This same authoritie rule and gouernement was practised in the catholique Churche by the most Christian kynges and Emperours approued confirmed commended by the best counsailes both generall and nationall Constantinus of whose carefull gouernement in Churche causes I haue spoken somewhat before tooke vpon him and did exercise the supreme rule ▪ aund gouernement in repressing all maner Idolatry and false Religion in reforming and promoting the true Religion and in restreining correcting al maner Errours Schismes Heresies and other enormities in or about Religion and was moued hereunto of dutie euen by Gods worde as he him selfe reporteth in a vehement prayer that he maketh vnto God saying I haue taken vpon mee and haue broughte to passe healthfull thinges meanyng reformation of Religion Being persuaded therunto by thy worde And publishing to all Churches after the councell at Nice what was there doone He professeth that in his iudgement the chiefest ende and purpose of his Imperiall gouernement oughte to be the preseruation of true Religion and godly quietnes in all Churches I haue iudged saieth this godly Emperour this ought before all other thinges to be the ende or purpose whereunto I should addresse my power and authoritie in gouernemēt that the vnitie of faithe pure loue and agreemēt of Religion towards the almighty God myght be kepte and mainteined amongest all Congregations of the catholique Churche He did not only abolishe al superstitions and false Religions whiche had been amongest the gentiles but also he repressed by his authoritie Lawes Decrees all such Heresies as sprong vp amongest the Christians sharpely reprouing and correcting the authours or mainteinours of hereticall doctrines as the Nouatians Valentinians Paulianes and Cataphrygiās as Eusebius saith of him And Theodoret us dooth recite a part of an Epistle that Constantine wrote vnto the Nicomedians wherein the Emperour hath this saiyng If we haue chast Byshops of right opiniō of curteous behauiour we reioyce But if any be enflamed rashly and vnaduisedly to continue the memory and commendation of those pestilent Heresies his foolebardy presumtion shal forthwith be corrected and kept vnder by my correctiō which am gods minister Cōstantinus also gaue Iniuctions to the chiefe mynisters of the churches that they should make speciall supplication to God for him He enioyned all his subiectes that they should keepe holy certaine daies dedicated to Christ and the Saturday He gaue a Lawe vnto the Rulers of the nations that they should celebrate the Sonday in like sort after the appointment of the Emperour And so the daies dedicated to the memory of martyrs and other festiual times c. And al suche thinges sayth Eusebius were done according to the ordinance of the Emperour He cōmaunded Eusebius the bishop to draw certein Instructions lessons as it wer Homelies forth of the holy scriptures y t they might be red in y e churches Which was done incōtinēt according to Thēperours cōmaūdement When the Emperour herde of the great schisme mooued betwixt Arius and Alexander the Bishop of Alexandria wherwith the Churche was piteously tormented and as it were rente in sondre he tooke vpon him as one that had the care and authoritie ouer all to sende
bishop of Antioche Flauianus against the bishop of Rome and other byshoppes of the Weste who did falsely accuse him of many crymes and at the lengthe by his carefull endeuour in Churche matters and his Supreme authoritie therein this moste faythfull Emperour sayeth Thedoretus sette peace and quietnes amongest the Bishoppes and in the Churches He called a conuocation of the Bishops to the ende that by common consent all should agree in vnytie of doctrine confessed by the Nicen councell to reconcile the Macedodians vnto the catholique Churche and to electe and order a Byshop in the sea of Constantinople whiche was than vacant When the twoo fyrste pointes coulde not be brought to passe as the Emperour wished they went in hande with the third to consult amongest them selues touching a fitte Bishop for Constantinople The Emperour to whose iudgement many of the Synode consented thought Gregory of Nazianzene moste fit to be Byshop but he did vtterly refuse that charge Than the Emperour commaundeth them to make diligent inquisition for some godly man that myght be appointed to that rowme But when the Byshoppes could not agree vpon any one the Emperour commaundeth them to bringe to him the names of all suche as euery one of them thought moste apt to be Bishop wryten in a paper together He referued to him selfe saith Zozomenus to choose whome he lyked best When he had redde ouer once or twyse the sedule of names whiche was brought vnto hym after good deliberation had with him selfe he chose Nectarius although as yet he was not christened the Bishops maruailing at his iudgemēt in y e choise could not remoue him And so was Nectarius baptized made bishop of Constantinople who proued so godly a bishop that al mē déemed this election to be made by Themperour not w tout some miraculous inspiratiō of y e holy ghost This emperour perceiuing y t the church had ben long time molested drawē into partes by the Arianisme like to be more greuously torne in sonder w t the heresy of M●cedonius a B. of Cōstantinople knowing y t his supreme gouernemēt empire was geuen him of God to mainteine the cōmon peace of the Church confirmacion of the true faith summoneth a Synode at Constantinople in the thirde yéere of his reigne whiche is the seconde greate and generall councell of the fower notable and famous oecumenicall councelles and when all the Bishoppes whome he had cited were assembled he cometh into the councell house amongest them he made vnto them a graue exhortation to consulte diligently like graue Fathers of the matters propounded vnto them The Macedonians departe out of the Citie the Catholique Fathers agrée conclude a trueth sende the canons of their conclusion to the Emperour to be confirmed writinge vnto him in these woordes The holy counsaile of Bishops assembled at Constātinople to Theodosius Emperour the most reuerent obseruer of godlines Religion and loue towardes God VVee geue God thankes who hath appointed your Emperiall gouernment for the common tranquillitie of his Churches and to establishe the sounde faithe Sithe the time of our assembly at Constantinople by your godly commaundement wee haue renewed concorde amongest our selues and haue prescribed certaine Canons or rules whiche wee haue annexed vnto this our writinge wee beseche therefore your clemency to commaunde the Decree of the Counsaile to be stablished by the letters of your holines and that yee will confirme it and as you haue honoured the Churche by the letters where with you called vs together euen so that you will strengthen also the finall conclusion of the Decrees with your owne sentence and seale After this he calleth an other Councell of Bishoppes to Constantinople of what Religion so euer thinkinge that if they might assemble together in his presence and before him conferre touchinge the matters of Religion wherein they disagreed that thei might be reconciled and brought to vnitie of Faith He consulteth with Nectarius and sitteth downe in the councell house amongest them al and examineth those that were in Heresie in such sort that the Heretiques were not onely astonied at his questions but also beganne to fall out amongst them selues some likinge some mislikinge the Emperours purpose This done he cōmaundeth eche sect to declare their faithe in writinge and to bringe it vnto him he appointeth to them a day whereat thei came as the Emperour cōmaunded and deliuered vnto him the fourmes of their faithe in writinge when the Emperour had the sedules in his handes he maketh an ernest praier vnto God for the assistaunce of his holy spirite y t he may discerne the trueth iudge rightly And after he had redde them all he condemneth the Heresies of the Arians Eunomians rentinge their sedules in sundre alloweth onely and confirmeth the faithe of the Homousians and so the Heretiques departed ashamed and dasht out of countenaunce Theodosius left his twoo sonnes Emperours of the which I will say but litle yet wherein it may moste manifestly appeare that the supreme gouernment in causes Ecclesiasticall belonged to the Emperours Archadius the Emperour when Nectarius the Bishop of Constantinople was dead and so the sea vacant was certified thereof he causeth Iohn Chrysostome to be called from Antioche he commaundeth the other Bishoppes collected into a Synode y t they admonishe Chrysostome of Goddes graces and what belongeth to suche a chardge and that they choose and order him to be the Bishop of Constantinople In whiche dooinge saith Theodoretus the Emperour declared what carefull endeuour he had about the holy Churche matters But this supreme authoritie to care appoint and procure woorthy and good Pastours or Bishoppes when the seas were vacant appeareth more plainly in Honorius the Emperour brother to Archadius whome the Bishop of Rome him selfe in his decrées and his Glosars on the same confesse and acknowledge to haue the ouersight rule and gouernment in the elections orderinge of Bishops yea ouer the Bishoppe of Rome him selfe After the death of Pope Sozimus were twoo Popes choosen at ones in a great Schisme the one Bonifacius primus the other Eulalius whereof when the Emperour Honorius had notice beinge at Millayne he caused them bothe to be banished Rome But after seuen monethes Bonifacius was by the Emperours commaundement called againe and confirmed by his authoritie in the Apostolicall sea This Bonifacius beinge nowe settled in the Papacy by humble suite to y e Emperour prouideth a remedie against suche mischiefes in time to come The case was this saith the Glosator Boniface the firste did beseeche Honorius the Emperour to make a Lawe whereby it might appeare what were to be done when twoo Popes were chosen at ones by the vndiscreetnes of the Electours contendinge amongest them selues Honorius did than constitute that neither of those twaine shoulde be Pope but that in a newe Election a thirde shoulde be chosen by common consente If twoo saithe the Emperour in his Lawe made
at the humble sute of Bonifacius by chaunce againste righte be chosen thorough the vndiscreete contention of the Electours wee permitte neither of them to be Prieste or Pope but wee iudge him to remaine in the Apostolique sea whome the diuine iudgement and the common consente dothe appointe from amongest the Clergy in a newe Election Vppon this woorde where the Emperour saithe wee permitte the Glosar saith and so the Emperour dothe not onely abrogate the clayme of bothe those that be chosen in the contention but dothe make them bothe for that time vnable and dothe decree an other to be taken out of the Clergie for that time Againe the Glosar interpretinge this the diuine iudgement saithe this is the meaninge that the Emperours will and election muste stande the Clergy and the whole people acceptinge with thankefull minde whome the Emperour doth choose For the Emperours were called in those daies holy and their rescriptes and iudgementes Diuine Here you sée by the Popes decrées and Glosars that the Emperour had the supreme rule and gouernement in Churche causes and this was the continuall practise of the Churche for the most parte yea euen the Bishoppes of Rome before they were ordered and consecrated had their election ratified and confirmed by the Emperours their Lieutenaunt or other Princes Sabellicus speakinge of the contentious entraunce of Damasus the first into the Papacy whiche was not without great bloudshed as Volateranus saith dothe note the ambition of the Prelates to be the cause of suche contention about their atteininge of such roumes For now saith he the ambicious desire of honour had by litle and litle begon to entre into the mindes of the Bishoppes The whiche was proued ouer true not onely in the elections of the Bishoppes of old Rome but also in many Bishoppes of other Cities especially of newe Rome These diseases in the Churche mynisters and the disorders thereout springyng the Emperours from time to time studied to cure and refourme wherefore Theodosius and Valentinianus when they sawe the great hoouing and shoouinge at Constantinople about the election of a Bishop after the death of Sismius some speakinge to preferre Philippus other some Proclus both beinge mynisters of that Churche did prouide a remedy for this mischiefe to witte they them selues made a decrée that none of that Churche shoulde be Bishop there but some straunger from an other Churche and so the Emperours sent to Antioche for Nestorius who as yet was thought both for his doctrine and life to be a fitte pastor for the flocke and made him Bishop of Constantinople As Constantinus and Theodosius the elder euen so Theodosius the seconde a very godly Emperour hauing practisinge the supreme gouernment in Ecclesiasticall causes séeinge the horrible Heresies spronge vp deuidinge the Church but specially by Nestorius did by his authoritie call the thirde generall councell at Ephesus named the firste Ephesine councell geuinge streight commaundement to all Bishops wheresoeuer that they shoulde not faile to appeare at the time appointed and further vsed the same power and authoritie in the orderinge and gouerninge thereof by his Lieutenaunt Ioannes Comes Sacrensis that other Godly Emperours had béene accustomed to vse before him accordinge to the continuall practise of the Churche as it is plainely set foorth in the booke of generall Councelles In this councell there happened so gréeuous contention betwixt Cyrillus Bishop of Alexandria and Iohn Bishop of Antioche bothe beynge otherwise godly and learned men that the councell was deuided thereby into twoo partes the occasion of this Schisme was partely that Cyrillus and certaine other with him had procéeded to the condemnation of Nestorius before that Ioannes with his company coulde come and partely for that Ioannes of Antioche suspected Cyrillus of certaine Heresies misdéeminge that Cyrill had made the more haste to confirme them before his comminge He therefore with his associates complaineth and laieth to Cyrilles chardge that he did not tarie accordinge to the commaundement of the Emperour for the comminge of the Bishoppes of other Prouinces whiche were called thither from all partes by the commaundement of the Emperour That whan the noble Erle Candidianus commaunded him by writinge and without writinge that he shoulde presume no suche matter but that he and those that were with him shoulde abide the comminge of the other Bishoppes neuerthelesse he procéeded that he and his companie were the authours of dissention and discorde in the Churche and that they had geuen the occasion that the rules of the Fathers and the decrées of the Emperours were broken and troden vnder foote wherefore they iudge Cyrill of Alexandria with Memnon Bishop of Ephesus to be deposed frō their Bishoprikes and Ecclesiasticall mynistery the other their associates to be excommunicate The whiche their doynges they signifie to the Emperour Theodosius by their Sydonical letters to vnderstande his pleasure in allowing or disallowyng of their Synodicall actes After this came the Bishoppe of Romes legates before whome in the councell Cyrillus and Memnon offered vp their libelles deposinge a contestation againste Iohn and his partie to haue them cited and render the cause of their deposition The Bishoppe of Romes legates with the consent of the councel on that parte sendeth for Ioannes and his parties who returneth this answeare Neither sende you to vs nor wee to you bicause wee looke for an answeare from the Prince touchinge you Therefore saith Liberatus Cyrill and Memnon seekinge to reuenge them selues did condemne Iohn and all those that stoode with him who suffered many displeasures at Ephesus thorough the pride of these twaine The Emperour sendeth to the whole Councell his answeare in writinge on this sorte Wee allowe the condemnation of Nestorius Cyrillus and Memnon the other actes and condemnations whiche you haue made ▪ wee disallowe obseruinge the Christian Faithe and vprightnes whiche wee haue receiued of our Fathers and progenitours c. Certaine of the Bishoppes did satisfie the Emperour whome he commaunded to enter into the Churche and to ordeine an other Bishop for Constantinople in the place of Nestorius These thinges thus doone the Emperour dissolued the Councell and commaunded the Byshoppes to departe euery man to his owne countrey Within a while after the Emperour perceiuinge the dissention betwixte Cyrill and Iohn to continewe whiche he thought was not to be suffered called Maximianus and many other Bishoppes that were then at Constantinople with whome he consulted howe this Schisme of the Churches might be taken away Whose aduise had the Emperour sente a noble man named Aristolaus with his letters to Cyrill and Iohn commaundinge them to come to an agreement and vnitie betwixte them selues otherwise he woulde depose and banishe them bothe Whereuppon followed a reconciliation betwéene the twoo Bishops and muche quietnes to the Churches Eutyches stirred vp muche trouble in these daies wherefore he was cited to appeare before Flauianus Bishop of Constantinople and other Bishoppes assembled in a Synode
▪ Venetiae and Histria whiche woulde not obey him puttinge their affiaunce in the authoritie of the firste Councell of Constantinople In whiche Epistle amongest other thinges he writeth on this wise Your honour muste remember what God wrought by you at that time when as Totyla the tiraunt possessinge Histriam and Venetias the Frenche also wastinge all thinges you woulde not neuerthelesse suffer a Bisshoppe of Myllaine to bee made vntill yee had sente woorde from thence to the moste milde Prince meaninge the Emperour and had receiued answeare againe from him by writinge what shoulde be done and so bothe he that was ordeined Bisshoppe and he that was to be ordeined were broughte to Raūenna at the appointement of your highe authoritie Not longe after Pelagius 2. bicause he was chosen Iniussu Principis without the Emperours commaundement and coulde not sende vnto him by reason the Town was besieged and the huge risinge of the waters stopped the passage as soone as he mighte beynge elected Pope he sente Gregorie to craue the Emperours perdone and to obteyne his good will For in those daies saithe Platina the Clergy did nothinge in the Popes election except the election had beene allowed by the Emperour Aboute the time of Pelagius the firste his Papacy was there a Councell holden at Towers in Fraunce by the licence and consente of Arithbertus the Kinge for the reformacion of the Churche discipline wherein appeareth that the Kinges authoritie was necessarily required to confirme and strengthen the discipline For where they decrée of the maydes or widdowes that shall not be maried without the consent of the parentes which is an especiall matter Ecclesiasticall they declare the strength thereof to depende vppon the commaundement of the Prince Not onely say they the Kinges Childebert and Clotharius of honourable memory kepte and preserued the constitution of the Lawes touchinge this matter the whiche nowe the kinge Charibert their successour hath confirmed or strengthened by his praecept The Emperour Iustinianus calleth the Bishoppes of all Churches vnto a generall Councell at Constantinople the whiche is called the fifte oecumenicall Synode to represse the insolence of certayne Heretiques who taught and mainteined Heresies and Schismes to the great disquieting of the Churche against the doctrine established in the foure forenamed generall Councelles In the time of this councell Menna the Bishop of Constantinople departed out of this life in whose rowme the Emperour placed Eutychius The Emperour gouerneth and directeth all thinges in this Councell as the Emperours before him had doone in the other generall Synodes as appeareth by the writinge whiche he sente vnto the Bishoppes wherein he sheweth that the right beléeuinge godly Emperours his auncestours did alwaies labour to cut of the Heresies spronge vp in their time by callinge together into Synode the most religious Bishoppes and to preserue the holy Churche in peace and the right faithe to be sincerely preached and taught He alledgeth the examples of Constantinus Magnus Theodosius the elder Theodosius the yonger and Martianus the Emperours who saith he called the former generall councelles were present them selues in their owne persones did ayde and helpe the true confessours and tooke great trauaile vppon them that the right faith shoulde preuaile and be preached Our forenamed auncestours of godly memory saith he did strengthen and cōfirme by their Lawes those thinges which were decided in euery of those councelles and did expulse the Heretiques whiche wente about to gainesaie the determinations of the fower forenamed generall councelles and to vnquiet the Churches He protesteth that from his firste entraunce he made these the beginninges foundacion of his emperiall gouernment to wit the vnitie in Faith agreable to the fowre generall councelles amongest the churche ministers from the east to the weast the restraigninge of schismes and contentions stirred vp by the fautours of Eutyches and Nestorius against the Chalcedon councell the satisfiynge of many that gainesaide the holy Chalcedon councell and the expulsion of others that perseuered in their errours out of the holie Churches and Monasteries To the ende that concorde and peace of the holie Churches and their Priestes beinge firmely kepte one and the selfe same faithe whiche the fowre holie Synodes did confesse might be preached throughout Goddes holie Churches He declareth howe he had consulted with them by his letters and messengers aboute these matters and how they declared their iudgements vnto him by theyr writinges notwithstandinge séeinge certaine Heretiques continue in their heresies Therefore I haue called you saith he to the royall Citie meaninge Constantinople exhortinge you beynge assembled togeather to declare once againe your mindes touching these matters He showeth that he opened these controuersies to Vigilius the Pope at his beyng with him at Constantinople And we asked him saith he his opinion herein and he not once nor twise but oftentimes in writinge and without writinge did curse the three wicked articles c. VVe commaunded him also by our Iudges and by some of you to come vnto the Synode with you and to debate these three articles togeather with you to the ende that an agreeable fourme of the right faith might be set foorth and that we asked both of him and you in writinge touchinge this matter that eyther as wicked articles they mighte be condemned of all or elles if he thought them right he shoulde shewe his minde openly But he answeared vnto vs that he woulde dooe seuerly by him selfe concerninge these three pointes and deliuer it vnto vs He declareth his owne iudgement and beliefe to be agreeable with the faith set foorth in the fowre generall Councelles He prescribeth vnto them the speciall matters that they shoulde debate and decyde in this Synode whereof the finall ende is saithe he That the trueth in euery thinge maye be confirmed and wicked opinions condemned And at the laste he concludeth with an earnest and godly exhortacion to seeke Goddes glory onely to delare their iudgementes agréeable to the holye gospell touching the matters he propoundeth and to doe that with conuenient spéede Dat. 3. Nonas Maias Constant inopoli The Title prefixed to the first generall councell sommoned by the commandement of Iustinian telleth in effect generally both the matter and also who had the chiefe authoritie in the orderinge thereof for it is intituled The diuine ordinaunce and constitution of Iustinian the Emperour against Anthymus Seuerus Petrus and Zoaras Mennas the vniuersall Archebishop and Patriarche of Constantinople was present in this Councell who had adioyned vnto him placed on his right hande certaine Bishops coadiutours named and appoincted by the cōmaundement of the Emperour sent out of Italy from the sea of Rome When they were set thus in councell Themperour sent Theodorus one of the Maisters of the Requestes or his Secretarie a wise man vnto the Synode Bishoppes Abbottes many other of the cleargy with theyr billes of supplications whiche they had put vp vnto the Emperour for redresse of certaine matters Ecclesiasticall
part of recompence the title of most Christian king and further to augmēt his beneuolence towardes Charles desired him to sende for his Bishops into Fraunce to celebrate a Synode at Rome wherein were gathered together of Bishops Abbottes and other Prelates about 154. In whiche councell also Carolus him selfe was present as saith Martinus Gratianus maketh report hereof out of the Churche history on this wise Charles after he had vanquished Desiderius came to Rome and appointed a Synode to be holden there with Adrian the Pope Adrian with the whole Synode deliuered vnto Charles the right and power to elect the Pope and to dispose the Apostolique sea They graunted also vnto him the dignitie of the aunciēt bloud of Rome wherby he was made a Patrician so capable of y e emperial dignitie Furthermore he decreed that the Archbisshops and Bishops in euery prouince should receiue their inuestiture of him so that none should be consecrate onlesse he were cōmended and inuestured Bishop of the Kinge VVhoso euer woulde doo contrary to this decree shoulde be accursed and except he repented his goodes also shoulde be confiscate Platina addeth Charles and the Pope the Romaines and the Frenche sweare the one to the other to keepe a perpetuall amitie and that those should be enemies to them both that anoyed the one Not longe after Charles perceiuing the Churches to be muche molested and drawne into partes with the Heresie of Foelix calleth a councell of all the Bishoppes vnder his dominions in Italy Fraunce and Germany to consulte and conclude a truthe and to bring the Churches to an vnitie therein as he him selfe affirmeth in his Epistle written to Elepandus Bishop of Tolet and the other Bishoppes of Spaine VVee haue commaunded saith Charles a Synodall councell to be had of deuout Fathers from all the Churches thoroughout our signiouryes to the ende that with one accorde it might be decreed what is to be beleeued touching the opiniō wee know that you haue brought in with newe assertions suche as the holy Catholique Churche in olde time neuer herde of Sabellicus also maketh mention of this Synode whiche was conuocated to Frankeforth ad Caroli aedictum at the commaundement of Charles Carolus Magnus calleth by his commaundement the Bishoppes of Fraunce to a Synode at Arelatum appointeth the Archebishops of Arelatum and Narbon to be chiefe there They declare to the Synode assembled that Carolus Magnus of feruent zeale and loue towardes Christe doth vigilantly care to establishe good orders in Goddes Churche and therefore exhorte them in his name that they diligently instructe the people with godly doctrine and examples of life When this Synode had consulted and agreed of suche matters as they thought fit for that time They decree that their dooinges should be presented vnto Carolus Magnus beseching him that where any defectes are in their decrees that he supply the same by his wisedome Yf any thinge be otherwise than well that he will amende it by his iudgement And that which is well that he wil ratifie ayde and assist by his authoritie By his cōmaundement also was an other Synode celebrated at Cabellinum whereunto he called many Bishops Abbottes who as they confesse in the Preface did consult collect many matters thought fit and necessary for that time the whiche they agreed neuertheles to present vnto Charles to be examined by his iudgemēt to be allowed confirmed amended or disallowed As this councell referreth al y e Ecclesiastical matters to y e iudgement correctiō disallowinge or confirminge of the Prince so amongst other matters this is to be noted that it prohibiteth the couetousnes and cauteles wherewith the Cleargy enriched them selues persuadinge the simple people to geue their landes and goodes to the Churche for their soules health The Fathers in this Synode complaine that the auncient Churche order of excommunicacion dooing penaunce reconciliation is quite out of vse Therfore they agrée to craue y e Princes order after what sort he y t doth cōmitte a publique offence may be punished by publique penance This councell also enueigheth against condēpneth gaddinge on pilgremage in Churche Mynisters Laye men great men beggers all whiche abuses saith the Synode after what sorte thei may be amēded the Princes minde must be knowē The same Charles calleth an other councell at Moguntia In y ● beginning of their preface to the councel they salute Charles the moste Christian Emperour the authour of true Religion and mainteinour of Gods holy Church c. Shewyng vnto him y t they his most hūble seruauntes are come thyther according to his commaūdement that they geue God thankes Quia sanctae Ecclesia suae piū ac deuotum in seruitio suo concessit habere rectorē Bicause he hath geuen vnto his holy Churche a gouernour godly and deuoute in his seruice who in his times openinge the fountaine of godly wisedome doth cōtinually feede Christes sheepe with holy foode and instructeth thē with diuine knowledge farre passinge thorough his holy wisedome in moste deuout endeuour the other kinges of the earth c. And after they haue appointed in what order they deuide y e states in the councell the Bishops secular Priestes by them selues y e Abbottes religious by them selues the Lay nobilitie Iustices by them selues assigninge due honour to euery persone it followeth in their petition to y e Prince They desire his assistaunce ayde and cōfirmation of suche Articles as they haue agreed vppon so that he iudge them woorthy beseching him to cause that to be amended which is founde woorthy of amendement In like sorte did the Synode congregated at Rhemes by Charles more priscorū Imperatorū as the auncient Emperours were wonte to doo diuers other which he in his time called I would haue you to note besides y e authoritie of this noble Prince Charles y e great in these Church matters which was none other but the selfe same y e other Princes frō Constantine the great had vsed that the holy councell of Moguntia doth acknowledge confesse in plaine speach him to be the ruler of the Church in these Ecclesiasticall causes further that in all these councelles next to the confession of their faith to God without makinge any mention of the Pope they pray commaunde praier to be made for the Prince Pope Leo. 3. as the French Chronicles Nauclerus witnesseth sente foorth with after he was made Pope Peters keyes the Banner of the Citie and many other giftes vnto Charles requiring him y t he wold cause y e people of Rome to become subiect vnto the Pope that by Othe Charles mindinge to gratifie and pleasure Pope Leo there was a cause wherfore sente an Abbot on this busines assured the people of Rome to the Pope by othe This Leo his streight dealinges with the Romaynes was so hatefull vnto them was brought shortly into muche daungier of his life but farre more of his
permitted to speake That is as your owne doctour Nicol. de Lyra expoundeth it Women muste not teache and preache the doctrine in the Churche neyther dispute openly Therefore our Sauiour Christe did not committe to Kinges Quéenes and Princes the authoritie to haue and take vpon them any parte of gouernement in Ecclesiasticall causes As though a younge Nouice of your Munkishe order shoulde haue argued Nunnes muste kéepe silence and maye not speake in the Cloysture nor yet at dinner time in the fraytry therefore your deceyuer the Pope did not committe authoritie to his Prouincialles Abbottes Priors and Prioresses to haue and take vppon them the gouernement vnder him selfe in Munkishe and Nunnishe causes and matters What man woulde haue thought Maister Feckenham to haue had so litle consideration although vnlearned as to vouche the silence of women in the Churche for a reason to improue the authority of Princes in Churche causes M. Fekenham The thirde chiefe pointe is that I must not onely svveare vppon the Euangelistes that no forayne personne state or potentate hath or ought to haue any povver or authority Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall vvithin this Realme but also by vertue of the same Othe I must renounce all forrayne povver and authorities vvhiche for a Christian man to doo is directly againste these tvvoo Articles of our Crede Credo sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam I doo beleeue the holy catholique Churche Credo Sanctorum Communionem I doo beleeue the Communion of Sainctes And that there is a participation and communion amongest all the beleeuers of Christes Churche vvhiche of the Apostle Paule are called Sainctes Adiuro vos per Dominum vt legatur haec Epistola omnibus sanctis fratribus And herin I doo ioyne this issue vvith your L. that vvhan your L. shalbe hable to proue by Scripture Doctour Generall councell or by the continuall practise of any one Churche or parte of all Christendome that by the firste article I beleeue the holy catholique Churche is meante onely that there is a Catholique Churche of Christe and not so that by the same Article euery Christian man is bounde to be subiect and obedient to the catholique Churche like as euery member ought to haue obedience vnto the vvhole mysticall Body of Christe And further vvhen you shalbe hable to proue by the seconde Article I doo beleeue the Communion of Sainctes is not so meante that a Christian man ought to beleeue suche attonement such a participation and communion to be amongest all beleeuers and members of Christes catholique Churche in doctrine in Faithe in Religion and Sacramentes but that it is lavvfull for vs of this Realme therein to dissent frō the catholique Church of Christe dispersed in all other Realmes and that by a corporall Othe it is lavvfull for vs to renounce and refuse to haue communion vvith the catholique Churche so dispersed bicause it is a forrayne authoritie and povver out of this Realme vvhen so euer your L. shalbe hable to proue this ▪ by Scripture Doctour Generall councell or yet by continuall practise of any one Churche or parte of all Christendome Than shall I in like manner yelde in this thirde pointe and vvith moste humble thankes shall thinke my seife very vvell satisfied therein The B. of Wynchester This thirde chiefe point is nothing els but a misshapened lumpe of woordes conteininge firste an argument grounded vpon a kinde of Opposition that no wise or learned man euer redde of but is newly forged and hammered out of your owne braine Then an issue to haue me prooue that thinge whiche beinge rightly vnderstanded no Christian doth doubt of or will denie And last of all an huge heape of flatte and manifest Lies against the whole Realme to set a good face vpon an euill fauoured cause whiche can finde no helpe or ease by plain and simple truth The weighty burden that you are loden with can not beare is that you must by othe renounce all forreine power and authoritie the cause that maketh you fainte and feble is that it is directly against two articles of our Creede So that your feble reason is grounded after your simple skill vpon the place ab apositis pugnantibus Before I aunswere to the argument I will put the Reader in remembraunce of the deuision whiche you make chopping chaunging one article into twaine to make some shewe of an heinous matter Surely it were ouermuche detestable if you were moued to sweare but against one article of our Crede as yee were neuer moued by me either to or fro to sweare any thing at all There be three symboles or Credes whiche haue been allowed and receiued of Christes catholique Churche The symbole of the Apostles of the Nicen councell and of Athanasius The Apostolicall is so called bicause it was collected as some saye by the twelue Apostles and therefore conteineth as the cōmonly receiued opinion is in Christꝭ Churche according to the nomber of the. xtj. Apostles but twelue articles whiche are called in the vsuall speche of the catholique Christiās the twelue articles of our Crede or beliefe If this I beleue the communion of sainctes be a seuerall article from this I beleue the holy catholique Churche as you doo phantasie then there must needes be at the least thirtene articles of the Crede contrary to the vniuersally receiued opinion of the catholique Churche You were wont to staye your selfe much vpon the custome of the catholike Churche and woulde vrge stifly although not so truely the vniuersally receiued opinion of the catholique Churche as a matter that might not bee reiected or denied and howe chaunceth it nowe that you are become suche a chaungeling that cleane contrary to the vse of the catholique Churche whiche acknowledged but twelue you wil make thirtene articles of the Créede at the least Besides this the catholique Churche in the time of Cyprian and Augustine and before also did not reken or iudge these to be twoo seuerall articles but did coumpte them one article concludinge these woordes the communion of Sainctes in this sentence I beleue a catholique Churche of Christe recyting the Symbole without rehersall or mentioning the communion of Sainctes as it is plainely set foorth by S. Cyprian and Augustine in their exposicions of the Apostolicall Créede The mattier meant by the communion of Sainctes is vttered in these woordes I beleue an holy catholike Churche of Christ Whereunto hath been added sence these auncient fathers times as it may séeme by the way of explication a communion of Sainctes to expresse in plainesse of speche that Christes catholique Churche is nothing els but a felowshippe and communion of faithfull ones whiche are sainctes Nowe let vs see howe to sweare as this thirde chiefe point of the othe setteth foorth is directly against this article of our Créede I beleaue the holy catholique Churche the communion of Sainctes All true subiectes ought and must renounce and forsake all forraine iurisdictions powers superioritie preheminences and authorities
Touchinge the thirde parte of your proufe whereby yee conclude that Bishops and Priestes may make Lawes orders and decrees to their flockes and cures bicause the Apostles so did as you say Although I neede make none other answeare then to denie your argumēt which you can by no arte maineteyne the insufficiency whereof is manifest to those that haue but a little skyll eyther in Logike or Diuinitie Yet I will briefly consider the places whereupon you grounde this mishapen sequele that the vnskilfull may see how little they make for your purpose After that S. Paule had founded the Churche of Corinthe and had brought them to Christ through y e preachinge of the Ghospell there sprange vp amongest them in his absence many vices and offences contrary to the Doctrine he had taught and the Godly admonitions that he had geuen vnto them wherfore being aduertised therof he wrote his Epistle vnto that Church wherin he reproueth their faultes partely in generall and partely in speciall And in the ende of the tenth Chapiter concludeth with this general admonition that All thinges be done without offence and to the Glory of God In the. xi Chapiter he reproueth certeine faultes in speciall committed by them in their publique assemblies and Churche méetinges contrary to this generall admonition and contrary to that he had taught them in special touchinge their honest and comely behauiour in their publique prayer preaching communicating in Christes Sacramentes which of al other thinges ought chiefely to be so done as therby God may be glorified and al offences eschued To this ende S. Paule had taught the Corinthes that in these publique holy exercises it is most séemely that men prophery pray bare headed Contrarywise wemen not without their heades couered Many obserued this comelynesse in prayer and propheciynge as Paule had taught them Others contentiousely did withstande and gainesay the same as an order that Paule hadde deuised and brought in of his owne deuise besides Goddes woorde as you also ymagine that Paule made this order besides the Gospell of his own authoritie wherwith to bynde the Corinthes To answere both the contentious Philosophers than amongest the Corinthes and the superstitious Papistes nowe in lyke forte molestinge the Christians S. Paule proueth that this comlynes is grounded vppon Gods ordinance and not a Lawe newly deuised of his owne authoritie besides the Ghospell This is his proufe the man by Gods ordinaūce hath the superioritie and the woman must be in subiection God hath appointed for them bothe signes and tokens of this dominion and subiection He hath ordeined that man in token of superioritie shoulde haue his head vncouered as contrariwyse the woman in token of subiection to haue her head couered Therefore if man laye away that signe and token of dominion whiche God hath ordeined for him to vse and taketh vpon him the signe and badge of subiection he dishonoureth God his head and breaketh his ordinance And so the woman if shee leaue of the couerture of her head whiche God hath geuen to her to be worne as a token and badge of her subiection and taketh vpon her the signe of superioritie she dishonoureth her head and breketh Gods ordinaunce S. Paule addeth an other reason wereby he proueth that this this was no Lawe made by him to the Corinthes Nature saith he hath taught you this comely order If this were a Lawe and Decree of nature it was not S. Paules deuise besides Gods word S. Ambrose vpon this place saith that S. Paule spake these woordes according to Gods Lawe whiche forbiddeth saith he the man to weare his heare Chrysostome affirmeth this to be an ordinaunce of nature But saith he whan I speake of nature I meane of God who is the authour of nature So that it is manifest by S. Paules owne proufes in defence of that he had taught and by the witnesse of S. Ambrose and Chrysostome that the man to be bareheaded and the woman couered was not a Lawe order and decree made by S. Paule to the Corinthes as you vntruly fable but Gods ordinaunce made plaine set forth and taught by hym that all thinges might be done in the Churche in comely order to Gods glory Of like sorte was the reformation and order whereof you speake about the more woorthy receiuinge the Lordes Supper The Apostle maketh thereaboute no newe Lawe order or decree besides the Ghospel but reproueth the Corinthians for that they did not aboute the receipte thereof obserue the lawe of the Ghospell He blameth them in generall that their Churche assemblies were not to the encrease but rather to the decrease of vertue in them selues He reproueth them that in steade of brotherly loue vnitie and concorde there was Contempte Schisme and Dissention amongest them He rebuketh them for that they made that Supper Pryuate whiche the Lorde him selfe had made and instituted to be Cōmon He reprehendeth them for Drunkennesse and that with the contempte of the poore And he sharpely shaketh them vp for that they abuse the Churche contemninge the right vse thereof Is not this Christes Lawe that the people shoulde encrease in vertue Is not this Christꝭ cōmandement that y e Christians shoulde lyue in brotherly loue vnitie and concorde Is not this Christes Institution that his Supper shoulde be Common and not Pryuate Dooth not Christes lawe condemne Drunkerdes and contempte of the poore And is not this Goddes decree that his house shoulde not be prophaned or abused If these be Gods ordinances as you can not denie them to bee than are they not Paules lawes orders or decrees neyther by writynge or woorde of mouthe otherwise than that Paule was Goddes mouthe and scribe to vtter not his owne lawes besides the Ghospell but Goddes ordinaunces comprehended within his Ghospell So that whether beynge presente he taught them by woorde or being absente by wrytynge he neyther wryite nor spake other then he had receyued of the Lorde He promised say you to dispose other thinges at his comminge It is true but not other wise then he did these aboue mentioned He exhorteth say you the Thessalonians to abide in the traditions whiche they had learned by woorde or by writinge Yee say trueth but he dooth not thereby bynde them to this as to a lawe order or decree made by him besydes the Ghospell but he monisheth them as S. Ambrose expoundeth his meaninge To stande fast continue and perse●ere in the tradition of the Ghospell So that the traditions he speaketh of are not other then the Doctrine of the Ghospell I maruaile not that yee misreporte S. Paule saiynge that he made orders and decrees touchinge prayinge and preachinge vnto the people in tongues vnknowen that all wemen shoulde keepe silence in the church and congregation for it may seeme yee neuer readde the place but tooke it as you hearde it reported If you had readde the place yee mighte haue seene with your owne eyes that S. Paule speaketh no whitte of that matter in the. 13.
nunquid iustum videtur si cedat spiritus carni si à terrenis caelestia superentur si diuinis praeferantur humana Sed patienter quaeso accipite libertatem nostram Scio te ouem esse gregis mei scio te intra sacra altaria cum veneratione subijci manibus sacerdotis c. And by this Prophete Ezechiel almighty God saith Ve pastoribus Israel quod infirmum fuit non consolidastis quod aegrotum non sanastis quod confractum non alligastis quod abiectum non reduxistis quod perierat non quaesistis Into the vvhiche maledictions and curses the Bishoppes and Priestes muste needes encurre if they haue no Iurisdiction ouer their flocke if they may not visit them if they may not refourme them if they may not order and correct them at all times as they shall see cause Chrysostomus Homil. 5. de verbis Esaiae vbi sacerdotem ast●uit esse medium inter Deum Hominem nullumque honorem in terris illius honori posse conferri And therefore here to conclude this my obiection vnto your L. aunsvveare I shall here finishe the same sayinge vvith the blessed martyr Ignatius S. Iohn the Euangelistes disciple Quod nemo praeter Episcopum aliquid agat eorum quae ad Ecclesiam pertinent And so to adioyne hereunto the sayinge of S. Augustine vvho in speaking Contra Iulianū ait de doctoribus Ecclesiae quod credunt credo quod tenent teneo quod docent doceo quod praedicant praedico istis cede mihi cedes c. The B. of Wynchester In all this parte there is not one sentence that can be drawen by any force to helpe your cause It suffised you to heape vp a sorte of testimonies togeather to make a shew although nothing to the purpose Yea the woordes spoken to the Prophet Hieremy maketh plainely against you For they shew that the mynisters in Gods Church haue authoritie to plucke vp by the rootes and to destroy euilles and the kingedome of Satan to plante good thinges and to edifie the Churche as the glose enterlined hath it or all maner wicked and false doctrine and what so euer the heauenly Father hath not planted as the glose ordinary expoundeth it But the meanes whereby this iurisdiction and authority is exercised is limited and appointed in these woordes Beholde I haue put my woordes in thy mouth saithe God to Hieremy So that other iurisdiction ouer people kingdomes than the preachinge of Goddes woorde Hieremy had not Hieremyes mouth is touched saith y ● glose ordinary and the Lordes woordes are geuen to him that he shoulde receiue boldenes to preache Of this holdenes to preache the woorde of God speaketh Gregory Nazianz. in the place by you alledged After he had comforted his hearers he tourneth his speache to the Princes and suche as were in authority muste wee spare you saithe he bicause of your power as though we feared or were ashamed of the libertie geuen vs of Christe Christes lawe hath made you subiect to my power and to my iudgement seate He speaketh of a spirituall subiection by faith obedience to the mynister exhortinge comfortinge and edifiyng to eternall life by the woorde of God And he addeth more expressedly what maner of rule or empyre he challendgeth namely suche as bringeth the fleashe to be subiect to the spyrite suche as maketh earthly thinges subiect to Heauenly And the subiection he requireth is none other than such as the spiritual shéepe oweth to the spiritual pastour whose rule and subiection Christe vttereth in this sentence My sheepe heare my voice and follow me I know saith Nazianzene to the Emperour that thou arte a sheepe of my flocke and thereupon he concludeth that he muste boldely preache the woorde to the Emperour that he on the other side is subiect therto ought to obey And this is the propre Iurisdiction that belongeth to the Bishoppes Priestes the whiche if they exercise with all possible diligence faithfulnes they shall escape the curses that the Prophete Ezechiel menasseth As cōtrarywise if they vse neuer so princely your popish or rather pompous Canon Lawe iurisdiction whiche consisteth in Courtly consistories Forinsecall iudgements farre disagreynge from the right iurisdiction of true and Christianlike Prelates they shal not in y e ende escape the deserued maledictions and curses threatned to such by the Prophet Ezechiel Chrysostome in the homily by you cited condemning the presumptuousnes of the kinge Ozias in enterprising to offer incense whiche belonged by Gods cōmaundement onely to the Priest doth compare the obiect or matter of bothe their Mynisteries togeather affirminge that the Priestly dignity respectinge the matter whereabout it is exercised whiche is heauenly and spirituall doth farre excéede the other for y t the matter thereof is but earthly and outwarde His woordes maketh his meaninge plaine The kingly throne saith he hath the administration of earthly thinges and hath not beyōde this power any further authority But the throne of the Priest is placed in heauen and he hath authority to pronounce of heauenly businesses who saithe these thinges the kinge of heauen him selfe what so euer yee binde vppon earthe shalbe bounde in heauē also and what so euer ye lowse on earth shalbe lowsed in heauen also what may be cōpared with this honour Heauen taketh of the earth principall authority to iudge For the iudge sitteth in the earthe the Lorde Christe followeth the seruaunt and what so euer this seruaunt iudgeth in the inferiour partes that same he Christ approueth in Heauen Therefore the Priest standeth a meane or mediatour betwixt God and mans nature bringyng vnto vs the benefites that comme from thense from Heauen c. These woordes of Chrysostome if they haue not an indifferent interpretour that will make his woordes by iuste circumstaunce to serue his meaninge and not to binde his meaninge to his bare woordes will make Heauen to receiue authoritie of the Earth will proue Christe to be inferiour to the Prieste and the Priest to haue the mediation betwixt God and man by meanes whereof wee may receiue the Graces that cummeth from Heauen whiche mediation belongeth onely to Christe Now sith in al these obiections hitherto ye haue brought foorthe nothinge at all that eyther made not againste your selfe or that maketh any whitte for you it is more then time yée drawe to Conclusion and bycause no good Conclusion can followe of euill premisses yée were dryuen to conclude finishe vp your obiection with the like patchinge wrestinge and falsifiynge your Authours as yee did before and therefore in the Conclusion like to him that hauinge no right to any claymed all to obteine somewhat at the least Euen so you to prooue that your Bishops and priestes haue al iurisdiction Ecclesiastical alleage a peece of a sētence out of Ignatius which barely by it selfe recited géeueth not onely all that vnto the Bishop but al thinges belonginge to the Church besides and that no man may
place of the Actes of y e Apostles vt pascatis Ecclesiā to feede the Church S. Peter making the like exhortation to this of S. Paule to the Bishops dispersed vseth y e selfe same woorde saying Pascite quantū in vobis est gregem Christi Feede so muche as you may the flocke of Christ Christ him selfe also teachinge Peter all other Bishops what manner of rule gouernment as properly geuen them by Gods woorde they should haue in y e Church doth expresse it with y e selfe same woorde saying Pasce agnos meos feede my Lābes To rule gouerne the L. household faithfully and prudently Christ expoūdeth to be nothing els in general thā to geue meate vnto his family in due season Neither did our sauiour Christ geue other power authority or cōmissiō vnto his Apostels so to al other Bishops as properly belonginge and onely to the Bishoply office then this As my Father sente me so I sende you receiue the holy ghost whose sinnes yee remit they are remitted whose sinnes yee retaine they are reteyned goo therefore and teache all nations Baptizinge them in the name of the Father and of the Sonne and of the holy Ghost teachinge them to obserue all thinges that I haue commaunded you So that the Bishoply rule and gouernment of Gods Church consisteth in these thrée pointes to feade the Church with Goddes woorde to Mynister Christes Sacramentes and to binde and lose all whiche thrée partes Christ comprehendeth vnder this one saying to geue meate to the Lordes family in due season And S. Paule in these woordes to feede the Churche of God The circumstaunce of the sentence whiche you alledged foorth of the Actes doth also shewe in the example of Paule him selfe who was inferiour to none of the Apostles and Churche mynisters in any point that he claimed or tooke vppon him none other rule or gouernment than of féedinge Goddes Church with the spiritual foode of the Ghospell He setteth foorth the execution of his owne office and by that example moueth the Bishoppes of Ephesus to the like sayinge I haue serued the Lorde with all humblenes of minde I haue leaft nothinge vndoone that might be profitable to you but I haue declared and taught you openly and priuely the repētaunce and faith in God and Iesus Christe I receyued an office of mynistery from the Lorde Iesus to testifie the ghospell of Gods grace and to preach the kingdome of God I haue hidden nothinge of Goddes councell from you Take heede therfore to your selues and to Christes flocke as I haue doone whereof the holy Ghost hath appointed you Bisshoppes as he did me to feede the Churche of God as you knowe and sée that I haue done This that you call to gouerne and rule was with Paule to serue with lowlines to mynister with watchefulnes to preache teache and testifie the Ghospell and the kingedome of God publikely and priuately and to shewe to the flocke all the Councell of God touchinge their saluation keepinge nothinge thereof backe from them To gouerne the Churche of God after this sorte belongeth to the onely office of Bishoppes and Churche mynisters and not to Kinges Quéenes and Princes who may not neither doo clayme or take vppon them this kinde of spirituall gouernment and rule or any part thereof with the Bishops neither doo they take the supremacy and chiefe parte of this spirituall gouernement from the Churche mynisters As contrary wise the Churche mynisters ought not to claime and take vppon them the supremacy of gouernement as the Papistes of longe time haue doone from Kinges Quéenes and Princes M. Fekenham And vvhan your L. shalbe hable to prooue that these vvoordes of the Apostle Paule and by him vvriten in his Epistle vnto the Hebrevves Obedite praepositis vestris subiacete eis ipsi enim peruigilant quasi rationem pro animabus vestris reddituri vt cum gaudio hoc faciant non gementes Doo yee obey your spirituall gouernours and submitte your selues vnto them for they watche as men whiche muste geue accompt for your soules that they may doo it with ioye and not with griefe VVhan your L. shalbe hable to proue that these vvoordes vvere not vvriten of the Apostle Paule asvvell for all Christian Emperours Kinges and Queenes as for the inferiour sort of people than shall I in like maner yelde touchinge that text of Paule and thinke my selfe very vvell satisfied The B. of Wynchester No man hath or dooth denie that the Churche mynisters hath to gouerne the flocke by preachinge and feedinge with the woorde which is the rule or gouernment that Paule speaketh of in this place also whereto all Princes are and ought to be subiecte and obedient For this subiection and obediēce to the woorde of the Ghospel taught and preached by the Bishoppes sittinge in Christes chayre whiche is the whole rule and gouernement they haue or ought to clayme as propre to their callinge is commaunded so well to Princes as to the inferiour sorte of the people as you say truely although your cause is no deale holpen nor my assertion any whit improued thereby M. Fekenham And vvhen your L. shalbe hable to proue that these vvoordes of Paule Mulieres in Ecclesijs taceant c. Let the wemen keepe silence in the Churche for it is not permitted vnto them there to speake but let them liue vnder obedience lyke as the Lawe of God appointeth them and if they be desirous to learne any thing let them aske their husbandes at home for it is a shamefull and rebukefull thinge for a woman to speake in the Churche of Christe VVhan your L. shalbe hable to proue that these vvoordes of Paule vvere not asvvell spoken of Queenes Duchesses and of noble VVomen as of the meane and inferiour sorte of vvomen Like as these vvoordes of almighty God spoken in the plague and punishment first vnto our mother Eue for her offence and secondarily by her vnto all vvomen vvithout exception vidꝪ Multiplicabo aerumnas c. I shall encrease thy dolours sorowes and conceyuinges and in payne and trauayle thou shalt bringe foorth thy children and thou shalt lyue vnder the authority and power of thy husbande and he shall haue the gouernement and dominion ouer thee VVhan your L. shalbe hable to proue any exception to be made either in these vvoordes spoken in the olde Lavve by the mouth of God either in the vvoordes before spoken of the Apostle Paule in the nevv than I shall in like manner yelde and vvith moste humble thankes thinke my selfe very vvell satisfied in conscience not onely touchinge all the afore alleadged testimonies but also in this seconde chiefe pointe The B. of Wynchester I doo graunt the woordes of the holy Scriptures in bothe these places to be spoken to all states of wemen without exception But what make they for your purpose how doo they conclude and confirme your cause Women muste be silent in the Churche and are not