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A07809 The grand imposture of the (now) Church of Rome manifested in this one article of the new Romane creede, viz: the holy, catholike, and apostolike Romane Church, mother and mistresse of all other churches, without which there is no saluation. Proued to ba a new, false, sacrilegious, scandalous, schismaticall, hereticall, and blasphemous article (respectiuely) and euerie way damnable. The last chapter containeth a determination of the whole question, concerning the separation of Protestants from the present Church of Rome: whereby may be discerned whether side is to be accounted schismaticall, or may more iustly pleade soules saluation. By the B. of Couentrie & Lichfield. Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1626 (1626) STC 18186; ESTC S112909 370,200 394

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5._o saint_n hierome_n sect._n 6._o s._n ambrose_n sect._n 7._o s._n august_n §_o 8._o s._n hilary_n of_o arles_n §_o 9_o chap._n xiii_o viii_o argument_n because_o of_o the_o vanity_n of_o the_o roman_a defence_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o their_o roman_a article_n of_o catholic_a jurisdiction_n discover_v by_o parallel_n 1._o the_o romish_a pretence_n from_o title_n ancient_o attribute_v to_o the_o roman_a chair_n by_o counsel_n confute_v by_o equivalence_n sect._n 1_o 2._o from_o the_o title_n attribute_v by_o ancient_a father_n confute_v first_o by_o equivalence_n sect._n 2.3_o next_o by_o their_o own_o contradiction_n sect._n 4._o three_o by_o the_o blasphemousnesse_n of_o sundry_a title_n attribute_v to_o the_o pope_n sect._n 5._o 3._o the_o romish_a pretence_n of_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n from_o the_o sentence_n of_o ancient_a greek_a father_n sect._n 6._o among_o other_o be_v the_o memorable_a example_n of_o theophilus_n and_o s._n cyril_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n atticus_n and_o acatius_n patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n all_o neglect_v the_o pope_n excommunieation_n sect._n 7._o the_o same_o from_o the_o latin_a father_n confute_v sect._n 8.9_o a_o general_n confutation_n of_o the_o former_a falsehood_n sect._n 10._o 4._o the_o same_o romish_a pretence_n of_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n from_o the_o authority_n of_o ancient_a pope_n confute_v sect._n 11.12.13_o as_o also_o from_o their_o acts._n sect._n 14._o the_o same_o pretence_n first_o take_v from_o the_o council_n of_o sardis_n for_o right_o of_o appeal_v to_o rome_n confute_v sect._n 15._o the_o same_o oppose_a by_o example_n of_o antiquity_n and_o second_o confute_v by_o a_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n sect._n 16._o three_o from_o s._n cyprian_n sect._n 17._o four_o from_o pope_n damasus_n sect._n 18._o five_o from_o the_o council_n of_o milevis_n sect._n 19_o six_o from_o s._n augustine_n sect._n 20._o chap._n fourteen_o the_o three_o consideration_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_a be_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o latter_a age_n of_o the_o world_n confute_v the_o now_o roman_a article_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o instance_n of_o three_o kind_n first_o of_o remote_a nation_n 1._o because_o it_o false_o damn_v the_o greek_a church_n from_o age_n to_o age_n sect._n 1_o notwithstanding_o that_o it_o continue_v still_o a_o true_a christian_a church_n sect._n 2.3.4_o and_o be_v now_o in_o extent_n wonderful_a spacious_a and_o for_o multitude_n innumerable_a sect._n 5_o the_o extremity_n of_o the_o romish_a article_n sect._n 6._o a_o particular_a instance_n in_o ignatius_n patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n neglect_v the_o pope_n excommunication_n sect._n 7._o 2._o because_o it_o false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o the_o assyrian_n sect._n 8._o 3._o because_o it_o false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o other_o remote_a nation_n egyptian_n aethiopian_n armenian_n etc._n etc._n sect._n 9_o second_o in_o church_n more_o near_o because_o it_o as_o false_o damn_v all_o protestant_a church_n although_o more_o orthodox_n than_o rome_n itself_o and_o for_o number_v infinite_a sect._n 10._o three_o instance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n itself_o because_o it_o condemn_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n itself_o in_o the_o latter_a age_n thereof_o prove_v either_o pope_n or_o church_n of_o rome_n schismatical_a in_o themselves_o sect._n 11.12_o prove_v by_o manifold_a and_o inevitable_a necessity_n as_o have_v sometime_o be_v a_o church_n headless_a sect._n 13._o sometime_o with_o a_o false_a head_n sect._n 14._o sometime_o with_o many_o head_n sect._n 15._o sometime_o counter-headed_n sect._n 16._o sometime_o doubtful_o head_v sect._n 17_o 18_o 19_o 20._o chap._n xv._n the_o determination_n of_o the_o whole_a question_n concern_v the_o separation_n of_o protestant_n from_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o discern_v whether_o side_n be_v to_o be_v account_v schismatical_a or_o may_v more_o just_o plead_v soul_n salvation_n discuss_v by_o certain_a thesis_n &_o consist_v of_o four_o part_n sect._n 1_o the_o first_o part_n consist_v of_o vii_o thesis_n i._o thesis_n a_o absolute_a decay_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n be_v never_o defend_v by_o any_o protestant_n sect._n 2._o ii_o thesis_n the_o church_n symbolical_a proper_o call_v catholic_a can_v err_v in_o faith_n sect._n 3_o iii_o thesis_n how_o the_o church_n representative_a improper_o call_v catholic_a may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o error_n sect._n 4._o iu_o protestant_n hold_v not_o any_o great_a inuisibility_n or_o rather_o obscurity_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_a than_o that_o which_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o a●e_v force_v to_o confess_v sect._n 5._o v._o thesis_n all_o particular_a church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v forsake_v for_o every_o unsoundnesse_n either_o in_o manner_n worship_n or_o doctrine_n sect._n 6._o vi_o thesis_n some_o unsound_a church_n be_v necessary_o to_o be_v avoid_v and_o just_a cause_n why_o sect._n 7._o vii_o no_o unjust_a excommunication_n out_o of_o a_o true_a church_n can_v prejudice_n the_o salvation_n of_o the_o excommunicate_a sect._n 8._o the_o second_o part_n be_v concern_v departure_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n compare_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o other_o church_n i._o thesis_n the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n be_v as_o subject_a to_o error_n as_o any_o other_o church_n sect._n 9_o ii_o thesis_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v more_o subject_n to_o error_n then_o any_o other_o church_n christian._n sect._n 10._o iii_o thesis_n there_o be_v not_o in_o all_o scripture_n any_o prophecy_n of_o the_o fall_n of_o any_o christian_a church_n but_o only_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o which_o it_o may_v sometime_o be_v necessary_a to_o depart_v sect._n 11._o iv._o thesis_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v long_o be_v and_o still_o be_v the_o most_o schismatical_a church_n of_o all_o other_o christian_a church_n that_o carry_v in_o they_o a_o visible_a face_n of_o a_o church_n §_o 12._o the_o three_o part_n of_o this_o determination_n concern_v the_o
departure_n of_o protestant_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n occasion_v by_o m._n luther_n i._o thesis_n luther_n be_v unjust_o excommunicate_v out_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n sect._n 15._o ii_o thesis_n luther_n have_v necessary_a cause_n to_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n sect._n 15._o iii_o thesis_n luther_n and_o his_o follower_n be_v far_o more_o safe_a for_o their_o soul_n state_n in_o that_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o less_o schismatic_n than_o they_o who_o they_o forsake_v sect._n 16._o iv._o thesis_n the_o romish_a objection_n urge_v against_o the_o separation_n of_o luther_n be_v notable_o frivolous_a sect._n 17._o v._o thesis_n their_o first_o oiection_n in_o respect_n of_o luther_n former_a vow_n to_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v vain_a and_o idle_a sect._n 18._o vi_o thesis_n the_o second_o and_o most_o popular_a objection_n against_o luther_n in_o his_o opposition_n to_o the_o roman_a church_n urge_v he_o to_o prove_v his_o doctrine_n by_o immediate_a succession_n and_o by_o name_v his_o teacher_n before_o he_o be_v as_o fond_a as_o the_o other_o sect._n 19_o vii_o thesis_n the_o objection_n that_o all_o change_n of_o doctrine_n have_v be_v notorious_a in_o the_o person_n and_o place_n of_o their_o beginning_n be_v false_a sect._n 20._o viii_o thesis_n the_o last_o objection_n of_o continual_a and_o personal_a succession_n in_o all_o age_n be_v frustrate_a sect._n 21._o the_o four_o and_o last_o part_n of_o this_o determination_n concern_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n of_o protestant_n after_o the_o day_n of_o luther_n and_o their_o more_o just_a cause_n of_o continue_v this_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n sect._n 22._o i._o thesis_n protestant_n be_v general_o excommunicate_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n sect._n 23._o ii_o thesis_n protestant_n be_v unjust_o excommunicate_v sect._n 24._o iii_o thesis_n in_o the_o continuance_n of_o this_o separation_n papist_n be_v rather_o schismatic_n than_o protestant_n and_o consequent_o in_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o donatist_n sect._n 25._o iv._o thesis_n in_o the_o continuance_n of_o this_o separation_n the_o union_n of_o the_o protestant_n with_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v both_o more_o true_a and_o more_o universal_a than_o be_v the_o union_n of_o the_o romanist_n §_o 26_o v._o thesis_n the_o protestant_n grant_v it_o possible_a for_o some_o to_o be_v save_v within_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o the_o papist_n deny_v that_o any_o can_v be_v save_v in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o protestant_n be_v but_o a_o sophistical_a proof_n that_o there_o be_v more_o safety_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n sect._n 27_o vi_o your_o common_a objection_n what_o be_v then_o become_v of_o the_o soul_n of_o our_o forefather_n more_o justify_v the_o protestant_n separation_n from_o papist_n than_o it_o can_v the_o separation_n of_o papist_n from_o protestant_n sect._n 28._o vii_o the_o protestant_n at_o this_o day_n 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