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A05217 A reflection of certaine authors that are pretended to disauow the churches infallibilitie in her generall decrees of faith. By F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? 1635 (1635) STC 15351; ESTC S106826 115,644 246

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mulieribus_fw-la conseruari_fw-la decima_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la tota_fw-la multitudo_fw-la christianorum_fw-la no●_n solum_fw-la virorum_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la mulierum_fw-la usum_fw-la rationis_fw-la habentium_fw-la potest_fw-la errare_fw-la contra_fw-la fidem_fw-la quia_fw-la hoc_fw-la stante_fw-la adhuc_fw-la in_o paruulis_fw-la baptizatis_fw-la possunt_fw-la saluari_fw-la omnes_fw-la promissione●_n christi_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la consummationem_fw-la saeculi_fw-la petrus_n cameracensis_n quaest._n vesp._n recite_v assertion_n only_o in_o that_o place_n and_o not_o approve_v they_o as_o appear_v by_o his_o word_n recitandae_fw-la sunt_fw-la assertiones_fw-la circa_fw-la materiam_fw-la istam_fw-la plurimum_fw-la differentes_fw-la i_o mus●_n recite_v certain_a assertion_n about_o thi●_n matter_n that_o be_v much_o different_a or_o as_o after_o
man●d_v and_o the_o part_n such_o as_o be_v re●rsed_v be_v ill_o put_v together_o so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d intent_n and_o meaning_n can_v be_v ●ceaved_v as_o the_o learned_a reader_n ●y_a observe_v by_o look_v on_o his_o ●rds_n relate_v in_o the_o p_o addition_n principio_fw-la addition_n etsi_fw-la lex_fw-la naturae_fw-la certissima_fw-la est_fw-la quam_fw-la ge●t_fw-la homines_fw-la scriptam_fw-la in_o cordibus_fw-la suis_fw-la ut_fw-la refert_fw-la apost_n ●_o 1._o multo_fw-la magis_fw-la lex_fw-la christi_fw-la habet_fw-la certissimum_fw-la inter●amentum_fw-la suum_fw-la in_o cordibus_fw-la fidelium_fw-la succedentium_fw-la sibi_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ab_fw-la initio_fw-la nascentis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o temporibus_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la us●in_fw-la sempiternum_fw-la secundum_fw-la quod_fw-la per_fw-la prophetam_fw-la dicit_fw-la ominous_a hoc_fw-la testamentum_fw-la quod_fw-la testabor_fw-la ad_fw-la illos_fw-la dando_fw-la leges_fw-la ●s_v in_o cordibus_fw-la eorum_fw-la &_o in_fw-la sensibus_fw-la eorum_fw-la scribam_fw-la eas_fw-la quod_fw-la ●onens_fw-la ambrose_n o_o verè_fw-la inquit_fw-la testator_n aeternus_fw-la qui_fw-la ●ris_fw-la in_o cordibus_fw-la leges_fw-la affigit_fw-la svas_fw-la &_o scribit_fw-la in_o sensibus_fw-la ●ihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la cogitare_fw-la nisi_fw-la divina_fw-la praecepta_fw-la possimus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d aliud_fw-la sentire_fw-la nisi_fw-la dei_fw-la oracula_fw-la debeamus_fw-la walden_n li._n ●_o 8_o and_o continue_v his_o discourse_n haec_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o eccle●●ymbolica_n ecclesia_fw-la christi_fw-la inquam_fw-la catholica_fw-la &_o aposto●●mater_fw-la credentium_fw-la populorum_fw-la quae_fw-la fidem_fw-la habet_fw-la indefect_n bi●●ecundum_fw-la ●ecundum_z promissum_fw-la christi_fw-la ad_fw-la petrum_fw-la qui_fw-la tunc_fw-la fi●m_fw-la gessit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ego_fw-la rogavi_fw-la pro_fw-la te_fw-la petre_n ut_fw-la non_fw-la deficiat_fw-la ●tua_fw-la non_fw-fr est_fw-fr ergo_fw-la specialis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la africana_fw-la ut_fw-la ●atus_fw-la dixit_fw-la nec_fw-la utique_fw-la particularis_fw-la illa_fw-la romana_fw-la sed_fw-la ●ersalis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la in_o generali_fw-la synodo_fw-la con●ata_fw-la quam_fw-la aliquotiens_fw-la errasse_fw-la percepimus_fw-la velut_fw-la illa_fw-la ●ninensis_fw-la congregata_fw-la sub_fw-la tauro_fw-la praefecto_fw-la &_o illa_fw-la con●inopolitana_n sub_fw-la justiniano_n minore_fw-la tempore_fw-la sergij_fw-la papae_fw-la secundum_fw-la bedam_fw-la &_o quaedam_fw-la aliae_fw-la sed_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia●_n christi_fw-la catholica_fw-la per_fw-la totum_fw-la mundum_fw-la dispersa_fw-la à_fw-la baptismo_fw-la christi_fw-la per_fw-la apostolos_fw-la &_o caeteros_fw-la successores_fw-la eorum_fw-la a●_n haec_fw-la tempora_fw-la devoluta_fw-la quae_fw-la utique_fw-la veram_fw-la fidem_fw-la continet_fw-la &_o testimonium_fw-la christi_fw-la fidele_fw-la sapientiam_fw-la praesta●_n paruulis_fw-la inter_fw-la extremos_fw-la errores_fw-la stabilem_fw-la retinens_fw-la veritatem_fw-la c._n 19_o in_o principio_fw-la that_o other_o also_o may_v conceive_v the_o same_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o waldensis_n be_v dispute_v there_o against_o wickleff_n about_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o creed_n we_o profess_v to_o believe_v and_o be_v therefore_o by_o he_o call_v th●_n church_n symbolical_a wickleff_n consider_v that_o the_o faith_n of_o it_o be_v to_o be_v indeficient_a it_o be_v still_o true_a to_o say_v there_o be_v such_o a_o church_n or_o congregation_n will_v have_v it_o to_o be_v the_o ibidem_fw-la the_o quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la nostra_fw-la symboliba_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la titulus_fw-la cap._n 17._o li._n 2._o mugit_fw-la acriter_fw-la wickleffus_fw-la contra_fw-la papam_fw-la &_o pastor_n ecclesiae_fw-la sub_fw-la titulo_fw-la iustae_fw-la app●lationis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la christi_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la obiectum_fw-la fidei_fw-la christ●nae_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la articulus_fw-la est_fw-la in_o symbolo_fw-la credo_fw-la sanctam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la difficultas_fw-la autem_fw-la eius_fw-la est_fw-la ista_fw-la quan●_n credere_fw-la debemus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la sanctam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la ta●quam_fw-la fidem_fw-la &_o iterum_fw-la credere_fw-la debemus_fw-la quòd_fw-la quodli●_n membrum_fw-la istius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sit_fw-la praedestinatum_fw-la ad_fw-la gloriam_fw-la credere_fw-la debemus_fw-la quod_fw-la iste_fw-la papa_n vel_fw-la episcopus_fw-la sit_fw-la me●brum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la credere_fw-la debemus_fw-la quod_fw-la repugnat_fw-la ipsum_fw-la peccatum_fw-la finalis_fw-la impoenitentiae_fw-la cadere_fw-la haec_fw-la wicklef_n actor_n sub_fw-la hoc_fw-la globo_fw-la verborum_fw-la unà_fw-la cum_fw-la praesumpto_fw-la s●●_n ecclesia_fw-la symbolica_fw-la etc._n etc._n initium_fw-la capitis_fw-la 17._o prima_fw-la ergo_fw-la di●cultas_fw-la de_fw-la quidditate_fw-la huius_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la symbolicae_fw-la quam_fw-la uti●_n credere_fw-la debemus_fw-la etc._n etc._n ibidem_fw-la predestinate_a only_o who_o do_v final_o persevere_v in_o the_o faith_n waldensis_n over_o and_o above_o a_o indeficiencie_n do_v avouch_v and_o according_a to_o scripture_n matt._n ult._n luc._n 10._o joan._n 15._o &_o 21._o act._n 20._o cor._n 1.12_o ephes_n 4._o etc._n etc._n that_o it_o be_v to_o teach_v and_o give_v testimony_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o that_o sort_n that_o all_o may_v learn_v of_o it_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v a_o visible_a congregation_n die_v congregation_n ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la fidelium_fw-la congregatio_fw-la it_o involue_v a_o hierarchy_n ephes_n 4_o who_o tell_v wickleff_n that_o all_o the_o believer_n the_o predestinate_v only_o except_v do_v fall_n from_o the_o faith_n before_o they_o die_v or_o society_n hierachicallie_o dispose_v whence_o he_o determine_v it_o to_o be_v according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o creed_n itself_o the_o catholic_a or_o universal_a church_n that_o be_v the_o wholeranke_a or_o company_n of_o the_o faithful_a people_n successivelie_o descend_v from_o the_o first_o assembly_n make_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o bank_n of_o jordan_n until_o our_o time_n and_o from_o henceforth_o until_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n and_o reach_v into_o all_o part_n of_o the_o world_n wheresoever_o the_o shine_a testimony_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o author_n be_v kindle_v ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la in_o which_o description_n by_o he_o there_o prove_v out_o of_o scripture_n and_o confirm_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n he_o have_v comprehend_v a_o twofold_a universality_n one_o loci_fw-la of_o place_n another_o temporis_fw-la of_o time_n as_o be_v more_o distinctlie_o there_o specify_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n by_o himself_o and_o the_o benefit_n of_o this_o universality_n he●_n say_v be_v ut_fw-la t_o sciamus_fw-la discretè_fw-la quae_fw-la sit_fw-la vera_fw-la christi_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la veramque_fw-la haben●_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la fidei_fw-la that_o we_o may_v know_v distinctlie_o as_o a_o community_n so_o universal_a be_v find_v easy_o which_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o have_v the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o faith_n heresy_n be_v limit_v as_o he_o show_v for_o time_n and_o place_n but_o the_o symbolical_a church_n be_v both_o way_n universal_a and_o to_o it_o when_o heresy_n arise_v 18._o arise_v ad_fw-la hanc_fw-la ecclesiamergo_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la totum_fw-la mundum_fw-la unam_fw-la habet_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la omnes_fw-la fideles_fw-la intonante_fw-la nova_fw-la haeresi_fw-la debent_fw-la habere_fw-la recursum_fw-la ipsi_fw-la enim_fw-la apostoli_fw-la cum_fw-la una_fw-la sana_fw-la doctrina_fw-la adhuc_fw-la manente_fw-la imbuerunt_fw-la totam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la &_o ob_fw-la hoc_fw-la tota_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la etiam_fw-la apostolica_fw-la nominatur_fw-la walden_n c._n 18._o fideles_fw-la omnes_fw-la debe●_n habere_fw-la recursum_fw-la all_o faithful_a must_v have_v recourse_n as_o he_o say_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o she_o have_v q._n have_v c._n 18._o ut_fw-la suprà_fw-la ad_fw-la lit_fw-fr q._n in_o her_o heart_n the_o gospel_n write_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n together_o with_o a_o most_o certain_a interpretation_n of_o the_o christian_a law_n and_o also_o give_v 49._o give_v addit_fw-la adhuc_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la symbolica_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la quam_fw-la tenem●_n in_fw-la dubijs_fw-la credere_fw-la sub_fw-la poenae_fw-la perfidiae_fw-la addit_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesi●_n sic_fw-la dictae_fw-la communiter_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la communi_fw-la rationi_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la abstracta_fw-la rationem_fw-la unius_fw-la fidelis_fw-la &_o indu●bitantis_fw-la testimonij_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la ratione_fw-la qua_fw-la est_fw-la una_fw-la sic_fw-la enim_fw-la ●credimus_fw-la unam_fw-la 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scripture_n or_o of_o manifest_a reason_n such_o as_o a_o understanding_n man_n consider_v can_v but_o assent_v unto_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o the_o pastor_n in_o a_o council_n be_v open_o insufficient_a because_o it_o do_v suppose_v and_o without_o yea_o against_o all_o reason_n that_o they_o the_o pastor_n with_o all_o their_o exercise_n in_o divinity_n and_o diligent_a inquisition_n look_v into_o and_o consider_v the_o word_n of_o scripture_n compare_v text_n together_o examine_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n peruse_v former_a counsel_n with_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o father_n and_o other_o monument_n of_o antiquity_n and_o assist_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n their_o interior_a master_n be_v not_o as_o able_a as_o their_o adversary_n to_o conceive_v plain_a scripture_n 45._o innumerabiles_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la videntes_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la ●actant_fw-la sed_fw-la à_fw-la christo_fw-la illuminatos_fw-la videri_fw-la volunt_fw-la sunt_fw-la 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