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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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hinder_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v absolute_o or_o independent_o
against_o his_o will_n that_o he_o be_v as_o yet_o then_o a_o novice_n in_o the_o faith_n and_o that_o he_o ●●mitted_v the_o matter_n to_o the_o roman_a pontiff_n i_o say_v this_o excuse_n be_v whole_o vain_a for_o first_o who_o can_v constrain_v he_o next_o he_o be_v no_o late_a convert_n and_o the_o matter_n of_o usurp_a jurisdiction_n over_o the_o church_n be_v so_o great_a notable_a extraordinary_a among_o christian_n and_o of_o such_o important_a consequence_n too_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a he_o shall_v not_o be_v instruct_v in_o it_o and_o especial_o in_o such_o a_o instance_n of_o it_o though_o he_o have_v till_o then_o be_v a_o mere_a novice_n or_o even_o catechumen_n and_o in_o the_o last_o place_n who_o see_v not_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o acknowledge_v himself_o a_o incompetent_a judge_n and_o remit_v the_o party_n to_o their_o own_o proper_a judge_n and_o a_o other_o to_o assign_v and_o delegat_v judge_n to_o the_o party_n which_o constantine_n do_v nor_o be_v he_o 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augustinus_n in_o brevic._n coll_v di_fw-it 3._o c._n 22._o nay_o augustine_n insinuat_v no_o less_o than_o that_o the_o sole_a judgement_n of_o melchiade_n have_v he_o undertake_v any_o such_o himself_o alone_o in_o this_o controversy_n as_o it_o be_v then_o have_v be_v usurp_v or_o have_v be_v so_o if_o he_o have_v without_o the_o emperor_n be_v special_a delegation_n presume_v to_o determine_v it_o but_o together_o with_o those_o other_o his_o french_a colleague_n for_o augustine_n treat_v of_o the_o pertinacy_n of_o the_o donatist_n in_o their_o refuse_v to_o yield_v to_o so_o many_o former_a judgement_n which_o absolve_v caecilian_n and_o labour_v to_o clear_v those_o former_a judgement_n from_o all_o opposition_n he_o object_n to_o himself_o in_o behalf_n of_o the_o donatist_n epist_n 162._o thus_o a_o fort_n non_fw-la debuit_fw-la romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la melchiade_n episcopus_fw-la cum_fw-la collegis_fw-la transmarinis_fw-la episcopis_fw-la illud_fw-la sibi_fw-la usurpare_fw-la juditium_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la afris_fw-fr septuaginta_fw-la ubi_fw-la primus_fw-la tifigitanus_n praesedit_fw-la fuerat_fw-la terminatum_fw-la to_o this_o what_o do_v augustine_n answer_v certain_o he_o do_v not_o deny_v that_o such_o judgement_n of_o melchiade_n may_v be_v just_o think_v in_o the_o case_n to_o be_v usurp_v but_o excuse_n the_o judgement_n of_o melchiade_n which_o real_o the_o facto_fw-la be_v not_o that_o which_o only_o may_v be_v false_o suppose_v or_o bruit_v to_o have_v be_v and_o defend_v it_o that_o so_o be_v true_o by_o say_v again_o thus_o quid_fw-la quod_fw-la nec_fw-la ipse_fw-la usurpavit_fw-la rogatus_n quip_n imperator_fw-la judices_fw-la misit_fw-la episcopos_fw-la qui_fw-la cum_fw-la eo_fw-la viderent_fw-la &_o de_fw-la tota_fw-la illa_fw-la causa_fw-la quod_fw-la justum_fw-la videretur_fw-la statuerent_fw-la hoc_fw-la probamus_fw-la &_o donatistarum_fw-la precibus_fw-la &_o verbis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la imperatoris_fw-la so_o etc._n etc._n so_o augustine_n above_o or_o in_o the_o foresay_a epistle_n the_o appeal_n of_o the_o donatist_n to_o the_o emperor_n himself_o do_v follow_v upon_o and_o against_o the_o foresay_a judgement_n of_o the_o bishop_n at_o rome_n optatus_n l._n 1._o cont_n parm._n and_o what_o do_v constantine_n then_o it_o be_v true_a he_o break_v out_o into_o this_o no_o less_o just_a than_o admire_a exclamation_n o_o rabida_fw-la furoris_fw-la audacia_fw-la sicut_fw-la in_o causis_fw-la gentilium_fw-la fieri_fw-la solet_fw-la appellationem_fw-la interposuerant_fw-la yet_o this_o import_v not_o signify_v not_o by_o any_o mean_n that_o constantine_n abominat_n the_o ignorance_n of_o the_o appellant_n for_o have_v or_o as_o if_o they_o have_v against_o any_o divine_a or_o humane_a rule_n or_o canon_n have_v recourse_n to_o a_o lie_v tribunal_n for_o have_v it_o be_v so_o or_o have_v this_o be_v the_o motive_n of_o his_o exclamation_n he_o have_v dismiss_v they_o and_o remit_v they_o back_o again_o to_o their_o own_o proper_a episcopal_a judge_n which_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o but_o admit_v their_o appeal_n therefore_o this_o exclamation_n of_o constantine_n import_v no_o more_o but_o his_o great_a wonder_n at_o the_o too_o great_a obstinacy_n of_o these_o donatist_n appellant_n and_o their_o too_o much_o want_n of_o christian_a humility_n resignation_n simplicity_n and_o even_o of_o their_o too_o much_o want_v also_o of_o either_o peace_n or_o charity_n that_o they_o in_o profess_v themselves_o to_o be_v christian_a priest_n and_o bishop_n will_v never_o leave_v of_o persecute_v a_o other_o bishop_n not_o acquiesce_v at_o all_o in_o such_o manifold_a judgement_n of_o even_o strange_a bishop_n who_o sit_v so_o numerous_o on_o the_o cause_n both_o in_o africa_n and_o europe_n but_o will_v rather_o as_o contentious_o as_o even_o the_o mere_a gentile_n in_o the_o world_n by_o all_o the_o most_o odious_a and_o tedious_a advantage_n of_o secular_a law_n and_o in_o so_o improbable_a a_o 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they_o condemn_v likewise_o as_o a_o
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in_o general_a both_o his_o definition_n and_o reason_n in_o this_o bull_n and_o in_o particular_a what_o he_o reason_n and_o define_v against_o this_o second_o article_n as_o not_o as_o much_o as_o in_o the_o least_o touch_v i_o or_o my_o thesis_fw-la of_o the_o subjection_n of_o all_o clergiem_n whether_o apostle_n or_o not_o apostle_n and_o even_o of_o the_o very_a spiritual_a prince_n of_o the_o apostle_n peter_n himself_o in_o temporal_a matter_n to_o the_o supreme_a temporal_a respective_a prince_n within_o who_o dominion_n they_o live_v for_o likewise_o as_o for_o the_o three_o of_o those_o article_n or_o this_o quod_fw-la ad_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la spectat_fw-la papam_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la ac_fw-la punire_fw-la as_o the_o say_v john_n the_o xxii_o relate_v it_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o bull_n or_o this_o other_o form_n of_o it_o quod_fw-la ad_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la spectat_fw-la papam_fw-la corrigere_fw-la &_o punire_fw-la ac_fw-la instituere_fw-la 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