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A66969 The Protestants plea for a Socinian justifying his doctrine from being opposite to Scripture or church authority, and him from being guilty of heresie, or schism : in five conferences. R. H., 1609-1678. 1686 (1686) Wing W3451; ESTC R9786 39,781 47

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all_o future_a age_n amen_n finis_fw-la errata_fw-la page_n 19_o lin_v 18._o read_v emperor_n p._n 28._o l._n 1._o deal_n see_v more_o protestant_n cite_v to_o this_o purpose_n disc_n 3._o §_o 19_o pag._n 31._o l._n 7._o r._n there_o by_o