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such_o a_o one_o where_o your_o papa_n shall_v not_o be_v precedent_n â—or_a your_o cloak-bag_n carry_v the_o spirit_n that_o shall_v direct_v iâ—_n when_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n itself_o shall_v be_v frâ—â—â—_n from_o that_o faction_n which_v now_o do_v tyrannize_v over_o it_o and_o the_o true_a bishop_n thereof_o shall_v enjoy_v that_o authority_n which_o most_o true_o be_v their_o own_o by_o divine_a institution_n and_o friar_n and_o jesuite_n may_v turâ—e_v turk_n for_o any_o station_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v in_o the_o hierarchic_a of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n errorem_fw-la god_n censura_fw-la â—â—â—positionum_fw-la ad_fw-la sacram_fw-la facultatem_fw-la theoâ—â—giae_fw-la parisiâ—â—_n sem_fw-mi allat_n etc._n etc._n priâ—â—a_fw-la propositio_fw-la hierarchia_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la constat_fw-la ex_fw-la pontifice_fw-la cardinalibus_fw-la archiepiscopis_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o regularibus_fw-la câ—â—sura_fw-la in_o istâ_fw-la primâ—_n proposition_n 〈◊〉_d 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illa_fw-la de_fw-la constantino_n apocrypha_n sicut_fw-la fortassis_fw-la etiam_fw-la quaedam_fw-la alia_fw-la long_fw-mi &_o magna_fw-la scripta_fw-la sanctiâ—_n clementi_n &_o anacleto_n papâ—_n attributa_fw-la in_o quibus_fw-la volentes_fw-la romanam_fw-la
otherwise_o nâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d sensum_fw-la habemus_fw-la they_o can_v espy_v error_n there_o as_o well_o as_o in_o any_o other_o less_o eminent_a church_n but_o he_o tell_v we_o this_o agreement_n in_o communion_n with_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v in_o those_o primitive_a time_n hold_v for_o a_o infallible_a mark_n of_o true_a faith_n aâ—_n appeder_v most_o plain_o by_o that_o which_o s._n ambrose_n relate_v of_o his_o brother_n satyrus_n 52_o satyrus_n reply_v pag._n 52_o it_o appear_v plain_o that_o the_o jesuite_n shoot_v at_o rover_n not_o at_o the_o mark_n otherwise_o he_o will_v not_o produce_v a_o matter_n of_o fact_n knit_v to_o time_n and_o occasion_n to_o prove_v a_o thing_n absolute_o and_o without_o dependence_n satyrus_n will_v not_o communicate_v in_o the_o dread_a mystery_n of_o the_o eucharist_n but_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o catholic_a bishop_n opposite_a to_o the_o luciferian_o who_o be_v schismatickes_n at_o that_o time_n and_o to_o that_o purpose_n call_v a_o 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expound_v satyrus_n his_o catholic_a bishop_n by_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o jesuite_n come_v now_o to_o his_o last_o proof_n from_o restaring_a of_o bishop_n put_v out_o of_o their_o bishopric_n to_o conclude_v his_o papal_a monarchy_n and_o bring_v we_o only_o one_o example_n and_o that_o but_o a_o attempt_n only_o viz_o â—_o of_o athanasius_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n paulus_n archbishop_n of_o constantinople_n marcellus_n bishop_n of_o ancyra_n asclepas_n bishop_n of_o gaza_n and_o lucianus_n bishop_n of_o hadrianople_n who_o be_v all_o patriarch_n and_o prelate_n of_o the_o east_n church_n and_o expel_v from_o their_o place_n even_o by_o counsel_n of_o other_o bishop_n come_v unto_o rome_n complain_v unto_o pope_n julius_n of_o their_o wrong_n and_o be_v by_o he_o right_v and_o restore_v as_o witness_v sozomenus_n &c_n &c_n â—â—_o &c_n reply_v pag_n â—â—_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o man_n of_o great_a authority_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o imperial_a city_n whereof_o he_o be_v bishop_n and_o much_o he_o may_v do_v by_o persuasion_n advice_n and_o by_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o imperial_a power_n yet_o all_o this_o will_v not_o conclude_v he_o the_o monarch_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o what_o do_v julius_n more_o than_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbuâ—y_n ought_v to_o do_v upon_o the_o like_a occasion_n he_o discuss_v the_o crime_n of_o every_o one_o â—â—_o one_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o and_o good_a reason_n for_o a_o good_a man_n ought_v to_o know_v the_o cause_n he_o will_v patronize_v much_o more_o a_o good_a bishop_n he_o do_v receive_v they_o into_o his_o communion_n find_v that_o they_o all_o do_v agree_v to_o the_o nicene_n council_n ibid._n council_n reply_v ibid._n can_v he_o have_v do_v otherwise_o without_o blame_n as_o one_o that_o have_v care_n of_o all_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o dignity_n of_o his_o see_n he_o do_v restore_v to_o every_o of_o they_o their_o own_o church_n write_v also_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o east_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n etc._n reply_v ibid._n and_o what_o make_v he_o so_o confident_a of_o his_o power_n his_o monarchy_n sure_o no_o but_o because_o he_o be_v the_o emperors_n chaplain_n and_o therefore_o may_v expect_v to_o be_v gracious_o assist_v by_o his_o lord_n and_o that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o conjecture_n you_o may_v conceive_v in_o regard_n the_o bishop_n of_o the_o east_n make_v 53_o â—_o reply_v pag._n 53_o light_a of_o his_o restitution_n return_v he_o a_o answer_n full_a of_o scorn_n and_o threat_n gravissimarum_fw-la threat_n sozomen_n hist_o eccles_n l_o 3._o 2_o 7._o athanasi_n â—s_v autem_fw-la &_o paulus_n ad_fw-la svas_fw-la sedes_fw-la revertuntur_fw-la literasque_fw-la julit_fw-la episcopis_fw-la orientis_fw-la mittunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la illi_fw-la graviter_fw-la commoti_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la antiochiae_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la &_o epistolam_fw-la verbis_fw-la elegantibus_fw-la ornatam_fw-la &_o disertè_fw-la ut_fw-la â—heto_fw-la rum_o mos_fw-la sert_fw-la compositam_fw-la ad_fw-la julium_n scribunt_fw-la eamque_fw-la plenam_fw-la ironiae_fw-la &_o minarum_fw-la non_fw-la expertem_fw-la gravissimarum_fw-la neither_o be_v he_o ever_o able_a to_o bring_v to_o pass_v what_o he_o determine_v whilst_o he_o use_v his_o own_o power_n for_o they_o disdain_v that_o the_o greatness_n of_o his_o bishopprickâ—_n shall_v make_v they_o his_o inferior_n retulit_fw-la inferior_n ibid-indignati_a sunt_fw-la se_fw-la posteriores_fw-la ideo_fw-la far_o quòd_fw-la magnitudine_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la superarentur_fw-la sozomen_n hist_o eccle_n l._n 3._o c._n 9_o at_o cum_fw-la literis_fw-la apud_fw-la â—piscopos_fw-fr orientis_fw-la de_fw-fr rebus_fw-la propter_fw-la quas_fw-la scripsisset_fw-la nihil_fw-la proficeret_fw-la causam_fw-la aâ—hanasij_n &_o pauli_n ad_fw-la constantem_fw-la retulit_fw-la and_o therefore_o he_o solicit_v his_o lord_n by_o who_o authority_n they_o be_v restore_v 〈◊〉_d restore_v sozomen_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 3._o c._n 1â—_n conâ—tans_fw-la autem_fw-la rebuâ—_n gestis_fw-la in_o concilio_fw-la sardicensi_fw-la cognitis_fw-la scripsit_fw-la ad_fw-la fratrem_fw-la constantium_fw-la literas_fw-la uti_fw-la athanasio_fw-la &_o paulo_n ecclesias_fw-la svas_fw-la redderet_fw-la vbi_fw-la uâ—â—o_fw-la intellexit_fw-la fratrem_fw-la diem_fw-la de_fw-la die_fw-la ducere_fw-la scripâ—iâ—_n denuo_fw-la ut_fw-la vel_fw-la viros_fw-la istos_fw-la reciperet_fw-la vel_fw-la se_fw-la ad_fw-la bellum_fw-la gerendum_fw-la pararet_fw-la constantius_n igiâ—ur_fw-fr cùm_fw-la de_fw-fr linere_fw-la cum_fw-la episcopis_fw-la orientis_fw-la communâ—casset_fw-la stultum_fw-la putavit_fw-la obâ—eam_fw-la causam_fw-la bellum_fw-la civil_a &_o intestmum_fw-la suscipere_fw-la quo_fw-la quidem_fw-la concilio_fw-la inductus_fw-la athanasiuâ—_n ex_fw-la itaâ—â—_n acceâ—sit_fw-la &_o cap._n 20._o imperator_fw-la autem_fw-la dimittit_fw-la athanasium_fw-la in_o aegyptum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—â—â—_o literas_fw-la cùm_fw-la ad_fw-la episcopos_fw-la et_fw-la presbyteto_n cujusque_fw-la civitatis_fw-la tùm_fw-la ad_fw-la populum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la alexandrinae_n quibus_fw-la et_fw-la vitam_fw-la ejus_fw-la piè_fw-la actam_fw-la et_fw-la probitaâ—em_fw-la morum_fw-la commendaviâ—_n 〈◊〉_d cohortatus_fw-la est_fw-la uti_fw-la ei_fw-la utpote_fw-la svo_fw-la antistiti_fw-la pâ—rentâ—_n precibuse_v oraâ—ionibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d reilgioâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d and_o now_o the_o jesuite_n have_v finish_v his_o testimony_n conclude_v for_o the_o papal_a crown_n how_o far_o now_o may_v we_o think_v do_v our_o answerer_n swarve_v from_o the_o ancient_a fathere_n pastor_n and_o saint_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n while_o he_o by_o a_o separation_n from_o that_o church_n which_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v their_o head_n and_o themselves_o to_o be_v member_n thereof_o fail_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n or_o one_o of_o his_o true_a flock_n forasmuch_o as_o he_o withdraweth_a himself_o from_o the_o 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privilege_n of_o the_o unspotted_a crucifix_n â—_o non_fw-fr enim_fw-la turbari_fw-la te_fw-la con_fw-mi venâ—â—_n cùm_fw-la audicris_fw-la quia_fw-la tratar_n &_o crucifix_n integrity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n upon_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n to_o peter_n matt_n 16._o so_o also_o they_o oftentimes_o deduce_v the_o same_o from_o the_o virtue_n of_o that_o prayer_n which_o christ_n make_v to_o his_o father_n for_o peter_n faith_n that_o it_o shall_v never_o fail_v luc_n 22._o wherein_o doubtless_o he_o be_v hear_v for_o his_o reverence_n heb._n 5._o 7._o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n why_o the_o roman_a shall_v enjoy_v this_o privilege_n either_o from_o christ_n promise_n or_o his_o prayer_n &_o as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v fail_v in_o deduce_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o former_a so_o do_v he_o show_v his_o ability_n in_o this_o latter_a at_o his_o first_o entrance_n for_o first_o he_o bring_v in_o forge_a epistle_n under_o the_o name_n of_o lucius_n 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agree_v with_o we_o in_o any_o why_o dâ—â—_n you_o believe_v one_o god_n three_o 〈◊〉_d christ_n incarnation_n crucifixion_n resurrection_n and_o his_o last_o come_n to_o judgement_n etc._n etc._n such_o as_o accord_v therewith_o in_o none_o at_o all_o be_v not_o heretic_n or_o schismatickes_n but_o 〈◊〉_d atheist_n and_o infidel_n and_o who_o 〈◊〉_d not_o but_o every_o gâ—pe_n of_o the_o jesuite_n be_v ad_fw-la oppositum_fw-la and_o cross_v to_o himself_o and_o here_o we_o shall_v see_v to_o what_o shift_v this_o jesuite_n fly_v for_o shelter_n the_o question_n be_v whether_o we_o agree_v with_o the_o ancient_a father_n in_o point_n of_o religion_n the_o jesuite_n answer_v sometime_o in_o very_a few_o a_o other_o time_n in_o none_o at_o all_o &_o here_o to_o justify_v this_o lash_a hyperbole_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o howsoever_o some_o few_o point_n may_v be_v assign_v in_o the_o outward_a profession_n whereof_o you_o will_v say_v you_o do_v not_o vary_v from_o the_o common_a faith_n 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as_o 〈◊〉_d pope_n apostolici_fw-la pope_n geneb_n 〈◊〉_d in_o ann_n christi_fw-la 901._o pontificâ—â—_n circiter_fw-la â—0_n à _fw-la virtute_fw-la majorum_fw-la prorsus_fw-la defecâ—runt_fw-la apotactici_fw-la apostaticive_a potius_fw-la quà m_fw-la apostolici_fw-la yet_o notwithstanding_o this_o will_v not_o make_v the_o apostle_n creed_n to_o be_v no_o ancient_a faith_n neither_o the_o ancient_a doctrine_n which_o we_o hold_v to_o be_v heretical_a who_o doubt_n that_o the_o denial_n of_o one_o point_n of_o the_o foundation_n perverse_o or_o express_o atlea_v make_v the_o belief_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n uneffectual_a but_o what_o will_v the_o jesuite_n infer_v from_o hence_o that_o therefore_o we_o have_v not_o in_o the_o confession_n of_o our_o church_n one_o point_n of_o religion_n that_o agree_v with_o antiquity_n we_o may_v as_o well_o argue_v that_o arius_n nestorius_n a_o jesuite_n have_v no_o true_a and_o sound_a inward_a faith_n therefore_o they_o agree_v in_o no_o particular_a doctrine_n with_o the_o ancient_a church_n or_o will_v this_o consequent_a find_v well_o many_o of_o your_o pope_n have_v have_v no_o true_a inward_a faith_n be_v such_o monster_n as_o you_o have_v paint_v they_o therefore_o they_o agree_v in_o no_o point_n of_o faith_n with_o the_o primitive_a church_n if_o this_o conclude_v well_o what_o will_v become_v of_o papist_n who_o be_v only_a catholic_n by_o dependence_n who_o faith_n be_v judge_v by_o their_o adherence_n to_o their_o head_n the_o jesuit_n now_o run_v to_o another_o shift_n &_o that_o of_o calumny_n charge_v we_o that_o we_o make_v profession_n of_o the_o ancient_a faith_n with_o a_o imaginary_a agreement_n from_o the_o tooth_n outward_a 90_o outward_a reply_v pag._n 90_o i_o must_v confess_v we_o be_v not_o so_o zealous_a for_o that_o doctrine_n the_o ancient_a church_n have_v teach_v we_o &_o the_o root_n out_o of_o your_o innovation_n as_o we_o ought_v to_o be_v pardon_v we_o this_o but_o whether_o you_o or_o we_o embrace_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n practise_v and_o teach_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n with_o more_o sincerity_n it_o be_v not_o here_o to_o be_v judge_v but_o must_v be_v leave_v to_o he_o that_o know_v the_o secret_n of_o heart_n and_o now_o we_o may_v see_v how_o impertinent_a the_o jesuite_n allegation_n be_v augustin_n say_v that_o schismatic_n separate_v from_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n &_o that_o heretic_n &_o schismatics_n can_v be_v profâ—â—â—_n by_o the_o truth_n they_o hold_v with_o the_o church_n be_v in_o their_o heresy_n &_o schismâ—_n that_o those_o that_o keep_v not_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n be_v heretical_a &_o antichristian_a according_a to_o prosper_v 90_o prosper_v reply_n pag._n 90_o who_o deny_v this_o &_o wherein_o make_v it_o against_o we_o if_o we_o acknowledge_v thing_n in_o controversy_n &_o that_o rome_n be_v the_o church_n &_o ourselves_o schismatics_n &_o heretic_n it_o be_v something_o yet_o nothing_o to_o this_o purpose_n neither_o of_o strength_n sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o we_o agree_v not_o with_o the_o ancient_a church_n in_o any_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n or_o point_n of_o religion_n as_o he_o shall_v here_o manifest_v so_o that_o we_o see_v his_o outface_a can_v protect_v his_o impudence_n but_o that_o he_o speak_v vain_o in_o charge_v we_o that_o we_o agree_v with_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o very_a few_o article_n of_o religion_n and_o just_o none_o at_o all_o and_o here_o augustine_n and_o prosper_v word_n be_v their_o cutthroat_n who_o not_o only_o reject_v communion_n with_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o judge_v that_o catholic_n body_n to_o be_v a_o schism_n and_o heretical_a because_o it_o will_v not_o join_v in_o communion_n with_o themselves_o &_o if_o augustine_n and_o prosper_v word_n may_v convict_v a_o pope_n they_o have_v force_n in_o they_o sufficient_a to_o perform_v it_o for_o though_o he_o hold_v all_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o show_n yet_o fail_v in_o the_o point_n of_o the_o church_n deny_v the_o authority_n thereof_o and_o prefer_v his_o simple_a power_n before_o the_o 〈◊〉_d authority_n of_o all_o the_o priest_n of_o god_n against_o the_o stream_n of_o antiquity_n and_o the_o two_o 〈◊〉_d general_a counsel_n of_o constance_n &_o basill_n be_v it_o not_o sufficient_a to_o bring_v he_o within_o your_o capital_a letter_n that_o his_o holiness_n and_o other_o of_o like_a sanctity_n be_v not_o in_o the_o catholic_a church_n at_o all._n and_o thus_o you_o see_v that_o the_o jesuite_n do_v both_o deceive_v himself_o &_o other_o when_o he_o will_v persuade_v that_o upon_o pain_n of_o eternal_a overthrow_n all_o mustadhere_v to_o the_o pope_n who_o indeed_o be_v take_v by_o they_o for_o the_o ancient_a roman_n catholic_n church_n and_o also_o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ireland_n be_v sincere_a and_o agreeable_a to_o the_o foundation_n neither_o by_o heresy_n forsake_v the_o doctrine_n deliver_v by_o christ_n &_o his_o apostle_n &_o embrace_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n neither_o by_o schism_n depart_v from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n make_v their_o faith_n uneffectual_a but_o that_o rule_n of_o faith_n say_v the_o most_o reverend_a primate_n so_o much_o commend_v by_o irenaeus_n &_o tertullian_n &_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n &_o all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o several_a cteede_n that_o be_v ever_o receive_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o badge_n of_o the_o catholic_a profession_n to_o which_o we_o willing_o subscribe_v be_v with_o this_o man_n almost_o nothing_o at_o all_o none_o must_v now_o be_v count_v a_o catholic_a but_o he_o that_o can_v conform_v his_o belief_n unto_o the_o creed_n of_o the_o new_a fashion_n compile_v by_o pope_n pius_n the_o 4._o some_o four_o &_o fifty_o year_n ago_o 25._o ago_o see_v the_o moâ—â—_n reverend_a the_o lord_n primate_n his_o answer_n 〈◊〉_d the_o jesuitâ—_n challenge_v pag._n 25._o the_o jesuit_n tell_v we_o that_o he_o have_v already_o make_v it_o know_v how_o far_o we_o have_v stray_v from_o that_o rule_n of_o faith_n 91_o faith_n reply_v pag._n 91_o and_o we_o tell_v he_o again_o that_o he_o be_v deceive_v in_o the_o wanderer_n and_o that_o we_o have_v manifest_v it_o also_o and_o that_o we_o do_v willing_o subscribe_v unto_o all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o several_a creed_n that_o be_v ever_o receive_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n although_o the_o juggler_n home_n juggler_n jesuita_fw-la est_fw-la omnis_fw-la home_n be_v jealous_a we_o intend_v nothing_o less_o than_o what_o we_o say_v 91_o say_v reply_v pag._n 91_o but_o it_o be_v jesuitisme_n to_o remove_v the_o tongue_n from_o the_o heart_n equivocate_a you_o defend_v we_o abhor_v it_o why_o do_v you_o suspect_v we_o but_o upon_o a_o sudden_a the_o jesuite_n fly_v from_o this_o calumny_n without_o one_o word_n to_o justify_v it_o but_o his_o detraction_n or_o jealousy_n be_v rapt_v up_o with_o admiration_n shall_v
be_v 〈…〉_o father_n 〈…〉_o and_o say_n of_o all_o and_o 〈…〉_o time_n 〈◊〉_d religion_n and_o therefore_o it_o will_v be_v much_o more_o 〈◊〉_d to_o find_v out_o their_o general_a consent_n that_o aâ—â—_n so_o lâ—ng_a deâ—â—_n and_o there_o he_o will_v â—â—ve_v the_o reader_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o agreement_n thou_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o 〈◊〉_d which_o iâ—_n not_o otherwise_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—â—â—led_v the_o general_a conâ—ent_n of_o ancient_a father_n and_o to_o prove_v this_o he_o have_v urge_v s._n augustine_n that_o when_o he_o dispute_v 〈◊〉_d the_o pelagâ—â—â—s_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d father_n he_o thougâ—â—â—â—_n have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thereby_o the_o common_a â—aith_n of_o the_o whâ—â—e_a church_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o ephesâ—â—_n have_v produce_v â—â—t_n â—en_o father_n make_v no_o 〈◊〉_d but_o thaâ—_n by_o theâ—â—_n agree_v authority_n the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n wâ—â—_n fâ—lly_a 〈◊〉_d against_o nestâ—riâ—â—_n for_o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o thâ—sâ—_n 〈◊〉_d do_v iâ—_n judgement_n agree_v with_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 95._o reply_v pag._n 94_o 95._o but_o all_o the_o whâ—â—e_o he_o do_v little_o consider_v that_o his_o own_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o he_o what_o make_v the_o consent_n of_o father_n for_o 〈◊〉_d will_v haâ—e_v those_o to_o be_v counâ—â—â—_n all_o the_o doctor_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v just_o 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o rest_n neglect_v 〈◊〉_d greg._n de_fw-fr valen_n loco_fw-la supra_fw-la citat_fw-la omnes_fw-la esse_fw-la censentur_fw-la iâ—_n quorum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la consideratis_fw-la â—ruditionis_fw-la piâ—tatis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la à _fw-la prudentibus_fw-la certè_fw-la â—â—â—um_fw-la solummodò_fw-la ratio_fw-la habeâ—i_fw-la debâ—â—t_fw-la câ—â—â—ris_fw-la neglectis_fw-la quasi_fw-la nihil_fw-la 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la cum_fw-la illis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o be_v of_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d collect_v by_o hiâ—_n practiâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o concâ—â—â—ing_n augustiâ—â—_n who_o 〈◊〉_d malachy'_v dayâ—â—â—_n sacrifice_v of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o pâ—â—yers_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o â—_o aâ—or_fw-es inst_z mor_fw-fr part_n 1._o lib_n 10_o cap._n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d there_o be_v onâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_z â—â—â—ing_a thâ—â—_n be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o rest_n now_o if_o 〈◊〉_d take_v consent_n of_o father_n according_a to_o 〈◊〉_d than_o we_o â—inde_v a_o conseâ—t_n of_o father_n in_o a_o point_n of_o 〈◊〉_d against_o 〈◊〉_d catholic_a church_n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d father_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d origâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aâ—brose_n tradiderunt_fw-la â—_o stapleton_n deâ—ens_n ecclesiastic_a 〈…〉_o quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o non_fw-it 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thereof_o as_o she_o do_v of_o those_o sacred_a truth_n which_o be_v legitimate_o declare_v to_o the_o church_n ay_o but_o although_o they_o be_v oftentimes_o so_o obscure_a as_o this_o man_n say_v must_v it_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v always_o so_o ibid._n so_o ibid._n no_o it_o must_v not_o but_o it_o be_v no_o strange_a thing_n that_o when_o your_o wisdom_n can_v answer_v your_o wit_n shall_v be_v amaze_v and_o although_o the_o wise_a answerer_n have_v endure_v many_o of_o your_o bolt_n with_o this_o answer_n he_o have_v choke_v you_o with_o the_o feather_n for_o he_o stand_v not_o in_o need_n of_o any_o such_o universals_z if_o some_o heresy_n be_v of_o this_o temper_n it_o be_v sufficient_a &_o if_o you_o can_v manifest_v that_o every_o heresy_n declare_v itself_o in_o its_o birth_n and_o be_v register_v to_o succession_n then_o that_o can_v be_v excuse_v from_o vanity_n which_o require_v for_o detection_n of_o every_o heresy_n in_o your_o church_n their_o beginning_n with_o the_o circumstance_n of_o person_n time_n and_o place_n arian_n manichees_n etc._n etc._n be_v diligent_o record_v say_v the_o jesuite_n why_o shall_v not_o those_o wherewith_o he_o charge_v we_o have_v be_v more_o notorious_a â—_o notorious_a reply_v pag._n â—_o he_o do_v not_o rest_v here_o but_o as_o if_o all_o his_o skill_n be_v in_o demand_v he_o ask_v above_o two_o hundred_o heresy_n have_v be_v gainsayâ—â—_n by_o the_o skilful_a watchman_n etc._n etc._n what_o doctor_n do_v ever_o gainsay_v any_o of_o those_o suppose_a heresy_n by_o word_n or_o write_v ibid._n write_v ibid._n this_o crambe_n be_v but_o of_o small_a value_n all_o this_o have_v be_v answer_v before_o the_o effect_n be_v this_o every_o heresy_n in_o its_o birth_n appear_v not_o but_o some_o express_a their_o venomous_a disposition_n afterward_o who_o know_v not_o that_o those_o base_a birth_n which_o be_v generate_v expuâ—redine_n be_v never_o take_v notice_n of_o till_o they_o reveal_v themselves_o by_o their_o filth_n and_o motion_n and_o have_v you_o not_o be_v faiâ—e_o to_o derive_v the_o pedigree_n of_o some_o heresy_n from_o the_o devil_n section_n
of_o infant_n die_v before_o baptism_n because_o they_o be_v spring_v from_o faithful_a parent_n and_o from_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o eucharist_n receive_v by_o the_o mother_n after_o conception_n to_o sanctify_v the_o child_n in_o the_o womb_n shâ—lbe_n 〈◊〉_d cundem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d zag_n zab._n ibid._n thom_n à _fw-fr jesu_n lib._n 7._o pa._n 1._o cap_n 8._o cit_fw-la per_fw-la cundem_fw-la 5._o they_o baptize_v themselves_o every_o year_n upon_o the_o epiphany_n as_o the_o muscovite_n in_o memorial_n of_o christ_n baptism_n who_o they_o think_v to_o be_v baptize_v as_o that_o day_n cundem_fw-la day_n zag_n zab._n ibid._n eit_n per_fw-la cundem_fw-la 6._o the_o egyptian_n have_v a_o custom_n to_o confer_v holy_a order_n to_o infant_n cundem_fw-la infant_n thomâ—_n a_o jesu_n lib._n 7._o pa._n 1._o cap._n 5._o cit_fw-la per_fw-la cundem_fw-la 7._o they_o deny_v all_o efficacy_n to_o baptism_n unless_o celebrate_v in_o the_o church_n by_o the_o priest_n notwithstanding_o any_o necessity_n whatsoever_o neither_o do_v they_o baptise_v till_o the_o fourti_v day_n though_o the_o child_n die_v without_o baptism_n cundem_fw-la baptism_n tho._n à _fw-fr jesu_n ibid._n cit_fw-la per_fw-la cundem_fw-la i_o can_v name_v the_o jesuit_n many_o moâ—â—_n but_o if_o he_o can_v show_v the_o person_n time_n &_o place_n by_o who_o when_o &_o where_o these_o point_n receive_v birth_n with_o their_o opposer_n by_o demonstrable_a authority_n &_o not_o by_o naked_a ground_n we_o will_v spare_v he_o the_o rest_n &_o confess_v he_o may_v with_o good_a reason_n ask_v the_o question_n he_o do_v and_o require_v our_o answer_n to_o it_o but_o till_o then_o let_v he_o not_o expect_v that_o from_o a_o other_o which_o the_o whole_a roman_a inquisition_n can_v discover_v unto_o we_o in_o the_o like_a kind_n yet_o for_o the_o present_a the_o jesuite_n have_v perform_v his_o promise_n as_o he_o suppose_v in_o some_o particular_n point_v out_o by_o himself_o first_o concern_v the_o defection_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n which_o indeed_o comprehend_v all_o the_o rest_n by_o you_o name_v 9_o name_v reply_v pag._n 9_o etc._n etc._n here_o we_o have_v the_o jesuite_n myre_v in_o his_o first_o entrance_n for_o what_o have_v he_o tu_fw-la do_v with_o general_n saphista_n versatur_fw-la in_o generalibuâ—_n he_o follow_v not_o his_o answerer_n but_o forsake_v he_o here_o particular_n be_v demand_v &_o like_o a_o false_a steward_n the_o jesuite_n deliver_v all_o in_o gross_a fear_v his_o prejudice_n if_o he_o submit_v to_o a_o strict_a &_o particular_a account_n all_o that_o he_o labour_v to_o prove_v here_o be_v two_o thing_n first_o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n defection_n from_o the_o roman_a which_o be_v not_o desire_v at_o his_o hand_n second_o the_o beginning_n of_o several_a error_n which_o shall_v be_v observe_v in_o their_o place_n for_o the_o first_o the_o defection_n of_o paulus_n samosatanus_fw-la macedonius_n nestoriuâ—_n &c._n &c._n be_v not_o from_o the_o roman_a but_o the_o greek_a a_o principal_a member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n second_o the_o greek_a church_n do_v not_o fall_v with_o they_o but_o condemn_v they_o neither_o do_v they_o adhere_v to_o they_o or_o their_o doctrine_n at_o this_o day_n that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o east_n which_o be_v name_v from_o some_o of_o those_o condemn_a heretic_n &_o yet_o follow_v not_o their_o doctrine_n etc._n doctrine_n onuphr_n in_o jul_n 3._o uerum_fw-la hie_v nestoriani_fw-la nomen_fw-la potius_fw-la nestorij_fw-la haeretici_fw-la quam_fw-la errores_fw-la retinuisse_fw-la mihi_fw-la videntur_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v no_o question_n but_o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o those_o heretic_n be_v teach_v by_o the_o greek_a church_n be_v utter_o untrue_a neither_o dare_v the_o jesuite_n say_v it_o be_v although_o by_o his_o obscure_a generality_n he_o will_v insinuat_fw-la that_o in_o what_o those_o differ_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n these_o close_a with_o they_o and_o for_o the_o other_o several_a defection_n as_o he_o call_v they_o though_o it_o be_v but_o ajust_a flight_n from_o their_o tyranny_n he_o can_v tell_v how_o many_o they_o be_v but_o style_v they_o twelve_o or_o there_o about_o but_o to_o what_o purpose_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d these_o 〈◊〉_d unless_o he_o show_v we_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d by_o 〈◊〉_d they_o be_v make_v and_o this_o will_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o show_v unto_o we_o what_o error_n every_o 〈…〉_o in_o with_o â—â—_o for_o otherwise_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d then_o employ_v to_o none_o â—ffect_v whereas_o he_o make_v they_o oppress_v by_o the_o turk_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d from_o 〈◊〉_d it_o 〈◊〉_d jesuite_n fancy_n i_o pray_v god_n 〈◊〉_d theâ—â—_n other_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d separation_n they_o cast_v off_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o noâ—_n all_o their_o slavery_n â—ut_v if_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d at_o the_o cause_n of_o their_o oppression_n which_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d â—aith_n where_o 〈◊〉_d notwithstanding_o their_o persequâ—â—ion_n they_o still_o 〈◊〉_d but_o their_o person_n many_o more_o probable_a ground_n may_v be_v give_v of_o god_n put_v they_o to_o this_o 〈◊〉_d then_o this_o assign_a by_o jesuite_n unless_o you_o have_v relation_n to_o politic_a and_o worldly_a prudencye_n of_o that_o church_n and_o not_o to_o crime_n that_o bring_v down_o god_n judgement_n upon_o they_o for_o we_o know_v some_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d not_o altogether_o to_o be_v approve_v of_o but_o idolatrous_a as_o image-worship_n be_v practise_v among_o they_o they_o deny_v indeed_o that_o which_o be_v practise_v by_o you_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o manner_n even_o statue_n of_o stone_n or_o marble_n and_o yet_o embrace_v with_o a_o idolatrous_a love_n paper_n and_o pâ—inted_a representation_n this_o their_o sin_n be_v not_o the_o least_o causer_n of_o god_n judgement_n upon_o they_o as_o we_o may_v conjecture_v from_o the_o ix_o of_o the_o revelation_n if_o god_n visit_v they_o may_v be_v impute_v to_o their_o sin_n and_o not_o to_o his_o secret_a will_n who_o tri_v his_o own_o by_o affliction_n as_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o egypt_n and_o the_o primitive_a in_o her_o sincereâ—â—_n perfection_n three_o â—s_v concern_v the_o several_a 〈◊〉_d few_o in_o comparison_n wherein_o the_o greek_a church_n aâ—_n this_o day_n dissent_v from_o the_o roman_a their_o beginning_n and_o contradiction_n iâ—_n noterious_a â—â—_o noterious_a reply_v pag._n â—â—_o here_o the_o jesuite_n by_o way_n of_o preface_n make_v the_o greek_a church_n at_o this_o day_n to_o vary_v from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d in_o regard_n of_o we_o for_o so_o i_o conceive_v he_o desire_v to_o be_v understand_v â—ut_v in_o a_o few_o point_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o they_o differ_v at_o thisday_n from_o they_o in_o most_o point_n that_o we_o 〈◊〉_d they_o for_o so_o that_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o receive_v scardall_a from_o your_o corruption_n which_o because_o yoâ—â—_n pride_n will_v not_o â—ure_v they_o leave_v you_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o your_o 〈◊〉_d and_o adhere_v to_o thâ—_n 〈◊〉_d doctrine_n which_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d every_o wheâ—_n receive_v at_o all_o time_n 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o although_o they_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o some_o of_o your_o own_o before_o own_o see_v before_o think_v their_o error_n therein_o to_o be_v only_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o express_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o doctrine_n itself_o and_o 〈◊〉_d whereas_o he_o say_v that_o their_o beginning_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d i_o will_v believe_v he_o when_o he_o have_v answer_v those_o point_n which_o i_o have_v lay_v 〈◊〉_d before_o for_o what_o he_o have_v do_v by_o his_o own_o election_n and_o choice_n will_v declare_v unto_o we_o what_o great_a performance_n we_o may_v expect_v â—â—_o his_o hand_n when_o a_o other_o may_v have_v the_o liberty_n to_o point_v out_o his_o task_n and_o first_o he_o begin_v with_o their_o denial_n of_o subjectional_a the_o roman_a sea_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o first_o 〈◊〉_d and_o agreat_a one_o and_o as_o he_o tell_v we_o be_v begâ—â—_n by_o john_n of_o constantinople_n and_o he_o there_o â—pon_o several_o contradect_v by_o gregory_n the_o great_a and_o by_o pelagius_n in_o his_o epistle_n etc._n etc._n â—â—_o etc._n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o here_o be_v two_o 〈◊〉_d fashoodâ—_n by_o this_o jesuite_n in_o this_o particular_a suppose_a and_o 〈◊〉_d first_o that_o 〈◊〉_d age_n before_o 〈◊〉_d of_o constantinople_n his_o 〈◊〉_d the_o bishop_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o their_o sense_n be_v universal_o acknowledge_v second_o that_o this_o controversy_n betwiâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d gregory_n be_v about_o the_o denial_n of_o papal_a 〈◊〉_d â—oth_o which_o shall_v be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v notorious_o untrue_a for_o the_o first_o 〈◊〉_d the_o jesuite_n orderly_o proceed_v he_o shall_v have_v prove_v the_o roman_a bishop_n the_o monarch_n of_o the_o church_n by_o universal_a confent_n before_o he_o shall_v have_v question_v the_o greek_a church_n for_o the_o
at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o his_o father_n and_o there_o make_v intercession_n for_o we_o execute_v alone_o the_o office_n of_o a_o true_a and_o lawful_a priest_n and_o mediator_n and_o from_o thence_o he_o have_v a_o care_n of_o his_o people_n and_o govern_v his_o church_n adorn_v and_o enrich_v she_o with_o many_o blessing_n we_o believe_v that_o without_o faith_n no_o man_n can_v be_v save_v but_o that_o we_o call_v faith_n which_o in_o christ_n jesus_n justifi_v which_o the_o life_n and_o death_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n procure_v the_o gospel_n publish_v and_o without_o which_o no_o man_n can_v please_v god_n we_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n which_o be_v call_v catholic_a contain_v all_o true_a beleiver_n in_o christ_n which_o be_v depart_v be_v in_o their_o country_n in_o heaven_n or_o live_v on_o earth_n be_v yet_o travayl_v in_o the_o way_n the_o head_n of_o which_o church_n because_o a_o mortal_a man_n by_o no_o mean_n can_v be_v jesus_n christ_n be_v the_o head_n alone_o and_o he_o hold_v the_o stâ—rne_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o his_o own_o 〈◊〉_d but_o because_o on_o earth_n there_o be_v particular_a visible_a church_n and_o in_o order_n every_o one_o of_o they_o have_v one_o chief_a which_o chief_a be_v not_o proper_o to_o be_v call_v a_o head_n of_o that_o particular_a church_n but_o improper_o because_o he_o be_v the_o principal_a member_n thereof_o we_o believe_v that_o the_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v the_o saint_n choose_v unto_o eternal_a life_n from_o the_o number_n and_o fellowship_n of_o who_o hypocrite_n be_v exclude_v though_o in_o particular_a visible_a church_n tare_n may_v be_v find_v among_o the_o wheat_n we_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n on_o earth_n be_v sanctify_v and_o instruct_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o he_o be_v the_o true_a comforter_n who_o christ_n send_v from_o the_o father_n to_o teach_v the_o truth_n and_o to_o expel_v darkness_n from_o the_o understanding_n 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l._n 〈◊〉_d 4_o po_n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr ijs_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vino_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &c_n &c_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illo_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ab_fw-la 〈◊〉_d epist_n 3._o ad_fw-la â—â—per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 15._o â—â—â—_o
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paschasâ—_n ratâ—erto_fw-la hic_fw-la auctor_fw-la priâ—â—â—â—uit_fw-la qui_fw-fr â—enâ—_n &_o coâ—iosâ—_n scripâ—it_fw-fr de_fw-fr veriâ—â—â—â—_n corpâ—â—â—_n &_o 〈◊〉_d doâ—â—â—â—_n etc._n etc._n reply_v pag_n 45._o but_o the_o strength_n of_o the_o jesuite_n conjecture_n consist_v in_o this_o that_o bertram_n live_v under_o the_o government_n of_o paschasius_fw-la in_o his_o monasteriâ—_n of_o corbey_n in_o picardy_n q._n which_o indeed_o the_o jesuite_n may_v say_v but_o will_v never_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v how_o confident_o soever_o he_o publish_v the_o same_o for_o paschasiâ—s_v die_v in_o the_o year_n 851._o when_o as_o charles_n to_o who_o bertram_n write_v be_v not_o make_v emperor_n before_o the_o year_n 875._o so_o that_o bertram_n may_v well_o have_v be_v a_o monk_n at_o corbey_n and_o yet_o not_o have_v live_v under_o the_o government_n of_o paschasius_fw-la by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v beslaber_v oeeolampadius_n with_o a_o untruth_n 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the_o people_n we_o say_v where_o this_o be_v plain_a be_v bind_v to_o receive_v the_o doctrine_n from_o timothy_n every_o succeed_a bishop_n as_o timothy_n 14._o â—_o tim_n 1._o 14._o from_o the_o apostle_n that_o establish_a and_o first_o publish_v the_o same_o now_o whatsoever_o the_o jesuite_n have_v bring_v from_o these_o father_n be_v no_o way_n advantageous_a for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o we_o can_v show_v and_o have_v do_v as_o good_a personal_a succession_n as_o the_o roman_a bishop_n can_v claim_v any_o second_o to_o this_o our_o orderly_a succession_n we_o can_v and_o have_v prove_v by_o comparison_n and_o consanguinity_n of_o apostolical_a doctrine_n that_o we_o be_v true_a and_o apostolical_a church_n three_o the_o roman_a certainty_n upon_o which_o their_o profelyre_n must_v depend_v be_v no_o firm_a by_o these_o father_n testimony_n than_o ephesus_n smyrna_n corinth_n philippi_n germany_n spain_n france_n egypt_n lybia_n thessalonica_n diceret_fw-la thessalonica_n irenaeus_n pag._n 140_o 142._o disci_fw-la te_fw-la ab_fw-la apostoli_fw-la cis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la habetis_fw-la romae_fw-la linum_fw-la &_o polycarpum_fw-la smyrnae_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n edoctum_fw-la tertull._n praeser_n p._n c._n 37._o proximè_fw-la est_fw-la tibi_fw-la achaâ—_n habes_fw-la corinthum_n si_fw-mi non_fw-la longè_fw-la es_fw-la â—_o macedonia_n habes_fw-la philippos_n habes_fw-la thessalonicenses_n si_fw-mi potes_fw-la in_o asiam_fw-la tendere_fw-la habes_fw-la ephesum_fw-la si_fw-la autem_fw-la italiae_fw-la adjaces_fw-la haqes_fw-la romam_fw-la unde_fw-la nobis_fw-la quoque_fw-la authoritas_fw-la praest_n o_o est_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la argum_fw-la in_o tert._n de_fw-fr prescript_n &_o alibi_fw-la impress_n basil_n 1521._o tertullianus_n ecclesiam_fw-la unam_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la nulla_fw-la loco_fw-la affigit_fw-la romanum_fw-la aec_fw-la lesiam_fw-la ornat_fw-la magnificae_fw-la laudis_fw-la elogio_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la tantam_fw-la 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unto_o she_o have_v waste_v away_o such_o spot_n as_o impair_v both_o the_o bounty_n and_o health_n too_o of_o that_o ancient_a church_n 7â—_n reply_v pag._n 7â—_n and_o what_o hinder_v this_o but_o the_o church_n of_o ireland_n may_v claim_v kindred_n with_o the_o ancient_a roman_a why_o he_o tell_v we_o if_o the_o ancient_a roman_a church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n and_o spouse_n of_o christ_n for_o 500_o year_n as_o he_o will_v â—oâ—_n deny_v what_o may_v we_o think_v of_o his_o i_o pray_v you_o which_o he_o himself_o do_v grant_v to_o be_v unlike_a unto_o the_o same_o 72_o reply_v pag_n 72_o do_v dissimilitude_n take_v away_o kindred_n brethren_n may_v be_v unlike_a as_o jacob_n and_o esau_n why_o not_o sister_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o conclude_v a_o prince_n of_o the_o house_n of_o austria_n from_o the_o lip_n although_o they_o much_o vary_v in_o their_o other_o proportion_n hypocrates_n his_o twin_n be_v not_o i_o think_v in_o all_o part_n so_o alike_o as_o the_o jesuite_n 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the_o roman_a churchy_n so_o that_o there_o be_v no_o correction_n of_o sin_n but_o the_o people_n fear_v a_o papal_a tyranny_n four_o the_o jesuite_n have_v take_v advantage_n of_o some_o point_n in_o controversy_n betwixt_o those_o that_o they_o style_v lutheran_n and_o calvinist_n make_v use_n of_o either_o passion_n to_o disgrace_v the_o good_a life_n and_o sincerity_n of_o both_o now_o for_o his_o charge_n of_o atheism_n i_o fear_v we_o have_v cause_n to_o suspect_v there_o be_v some_o among_o we_o i_o mean_v in_o our_o kingdom_n all_o do_v not_o believe_v the_o gospel_n and_o the_o minister_n of_o satan_n have_v their_o work_n herein_o but_o that_o which_o the_o jesuite_n will_v lay_v to_o our_o charge_n may_v be_v see_v in_o every_o corner_n of_o italy_n we_o have_v not_o nourish_v one_o machiavelli_n that_o the_o jesuite_n can_v produce_v nor_o one_o john_n that_o deny_v the_o immortality_n of_o the_o soul_n he_o have_v not_o espy_v one_o among_o we_o that_o have_v call_v the_o gospel_n fabulam_fw-la de_fw-fr christâ—_n yet_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o as_o from_o the_o loose_a conversation_n of_o some_o may_v be_v suspect_v i_o be_o sure_a they_o play_v their_o part_n in_o secret_a as_o the_o fool_n in_o the_o psalmist_n that_o say_v in_o his_o heart_n there_o be_v no_o god_n 1._o god_n psal_n 24._o 1._o these_o thing_n due_o consider_v and_o weigh_v may_v show_v that_o the_o reformation_n do_v more_o detest_v and_o abhor_v sin_n then_o give_v any_o encouragement_n unto_o it_o beside_o we_o see_v that_o the_o exclamation_n against_o sin_n be_v no_o argument_n that_o sin_n be_v in_o the_o bud_n and_o flourish_v but_o in_o her_o ruin_n and_o decay_v so_o that_o all_o the_o jesuite_n can_v say_v from_o these_o testimony_n be_v this_o that_o as_o those_o pious_a man_n assault_v the_o kingdom_n of_o antichrist_n by_o the_o opposall_n of_o such_o corruption_n of_o doctrine_n as_o do_v get_v footing_n in_o their_o schism_n of_o rome_n so_o do_v they_o labour_v afterwards_o to_o extirpate_v and_o root_v out_o those_o fruit_n of_o idolatry_n and_o superstition_n wicked_a life_n open_a prophanesse_n and_o all_o kind_n of_o filthy_a and_o notorious_a demeanour_n but_o if_o we_o shall_v grant_v all_o to_o be_v true_a which_o the_o jesuite_n urge_v he_o argue_v vain_o in_o labour_v to_o disgrace_v the_o profession_n of_o the_o gospel_n because_o some_o of_o their_o communion_n be_v of_o dissolute_a life_n for_o if_o this_o argument_n be_v good_a we_o shall_v quick_o make_v rome_n the_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n far_o from_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o how_o many_o have_v show_v the_o chief_a pilot_n in_o your_o church_n to_o have_v be_v in_o many_o succession_n the_o most_o notorious_a wicked_a wretch_n that_o ever_o the_o earth_n do_v bear_v some_o of_o they_o for_o sake_z s._n peter_n way_n discessâ—runt_fw-la way_n pâ—aâ—â—â—a_o in_o vit_fw-mi johan_n x_o pontifices_fw-la ipsi_fw-la à _fw-la petri_n veâ—tigijs_fw-la discessâ—runt_fw-la other_o be_v monster_n and_o unnatural_a sâ—â—s_fw-la unnatural_a idem_fw-la in_o vita_fw-la benedicti_fw-la 4._o vbi_fw-la cum_fw-la ipsis_fw-la opibus_fw-la lasciâ—ire_fw-la coepit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la versis_fw-la ejus_fw-la cuâ—toribus_fw-la à _fw-la severitate_fw-la ad_fw-la lasâ—iviam_fw-la peperit_fw-la nobis_fw-la tanta_fw-la licentia_fw-la peccandi_fw-la haec_fw-la portenta_fw-la à _fw-la quibus_fw-la ambitione_n &_o largitione_n sanctisâ—ma_fw-la petri_n sedes_fw-la occupata_fw-la est_fw-la potius_fw-la quam_fw-la possessâ—_n idem_fw-la in_fw-la vit_fw-mi christopher_n 1._o ponâ—â—fices_fw-la tanquam_fw-la monstra_fw-la quaedam_fw-la è_fw-la medio_fw-la deus_fw-la sustulit_fw-la idem_fw-la in_fw-la vit_fw-mi sergij_fw-la iii_o vide_fw-la quaeso_fw-la quantum_fw-la isti_fw-la degeneraverint_fw-la à _fw-la majoribus_fw-la sâ—â—s_fw-la yea_o prodigions_o wicked_a essent_fw-la wicked_a geneb_n chron_n l._n 4_o nihil_fw-la mirum_fw-la si_fw-la isti_fw-la pontifices_fw-la prodigiosi_fw-la essent_fw-la sylvester_n the_o second_o give_v himself_o to_o the_o devil_n tradiderat_fw-la devil_n platina_n in_o vita_fw-la sylvestri_n ii_o diabolum_fw-la secutus_fw-la curse_n totum_fw-la tradiderat_fw-la and_o do_v he_o homage_n succederent_fw-la martinus_n polon_n ann_n 1007._o sylvester_n ii_o diabolo_fw-la homagium_fw-la fecit_fw-la ut_fw-la sibi_fw-la omne_fw-la ad_fw-la votum_fw-la succederent_fw-la john_n the_o xiiith_o abound_v in_o all_o wickedness_n 107._o wickedness_n see_v before_o pag._n 107._o no_o catiline_n nero_n or_o heliogabalus_n like_v unto_o he_o so_o that_o if_o he_o be_v not_o a_o baptise_a turk_n yet_o he_o be_v worse_a in_o the_o judgement_n of_o your_o own_o for_o he_o die_v of_o a_o wound_n give_v he_o by_o the_o devil_n in_o the_o act_n of_o adultery_n as_o your_o own_o report_n it_o mortuus_fw-la it_o luitprand_fw-fr tiein_n l._n 6._o c._n 11._o dum_fw-la se_fw-la cum_fw-la câ—jusdam_fw-la viri_fw-la uxâ—â—â—_n obleâ—â—â—ret_fw-la in_fw-la temporibus_fw-la adeò_fw-la â—_o diabolo_fw-it est_fw-la percussus_fw-la ut_fw-la intra_fw-la dierum_fw-la octâ—_n spatium_fw-la â—odem_fw-la sit_fw-la vulnere_fw-la mortuus_fw-la what_o be_v boniface_n the_o seven_o but_o a_o villain_n a_o churchrobber_n a_o thief_n a_o murderer_n of_o two_o pope_n as_o good_a as_o sylla_n and_o catiline_n i_o rail_v not_o it_o be_v baronius_n his_o rhetoric_n pontificum_fw-la rhetoric_n baron_fw-fr ann_n 985._o n._n 1._o auâ—umerandum_fw-la potius_fw-la interfamâ—_n sos_fw-la latrones_fw-la et_fw-la potentissimos_fw-la grassâ—tores_fw-la atque_fw-la patriae_fw-la perditores_fw-la sulla_n et_fw-la catâ—linas_n â—oâ—umque_fw-la simile_n quos_fw-la omnes_fw-la superavit_fw-la sacrilegus_fw-la iste_fw-la turpissima_fw-la â—ecâ—_n duorum_fw-la pontificum_fw-la beside_o alexander_n the_o vi_o what_o virtue_n what_o holiness_n do_v he_o shine_v with_o i_o will_v speak_v no_o more_o of_o they_o as_o have_v show_v what_o they_o be_v before_o but_o for_o your_o cardinal_n what_o holiness_n be_v enclose_v in_o their_o purple_a habit_n they_o be_v pride_n itself_o and_o act_v it_o yea_o the_o most_o excellent_a exemplar_n to_o paint_v it_o by_o by_o their_o wickedness_n horrible_a schism_n be_v bring_v into_o the_o church_n and_o for_o the_o unmeasurable_a and_o bottomless_a gulf_n of_o their_o covetous_a desire_n who_o can_v by_o word_n sufficient_o express_v it_o beside_o their_o simoniacal_a intercession_n to_o the_o pope_n their_o sell_v of_o their_o favour_n for_o money_n their_o most_o shameful_a and_o damnable_a â—orruptions_n the_o adultery_n
wheredome_n and_o fornication_n wherewith_o they_o defile_v the_o court_n of_o rome_n and_o usury_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n vocant_fw-la degree_n nâ—ch_o cleâ—â—â—ng_v in_o lib_n de_fw-la corrupto_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la stam_fw-la c._n 10._o cardinalium_fw-la qui_fw-la papae_fw-la assident_fw-la spiritus_fw-la verba_fw-la tumenâ—ia_fw-la gestus_fw-la tam_fw-la sunt_fw-la insolentâ—s_fw-la ut_fw-la si_fw-la aâ—tifex_fw-la cuique_fw-la vellet_fw-la superbiae_fw-la simulachâ—um_fw-la effingere_fw-la nullâ_fw-la congruentius_fw-la tatiâ—â—â—id_fw-la facere_fw-la â—osset_n quam_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la effigiâ—â—_n oculis_fw-la inâ—â—â—â—iâ—m_fw-la objectaâ—â—o_fw-la idem_fw-la c._n 12._o quis_fw-la â—esciâ—â—_n â—ctionis_fw-la schismatics_n horrend_a be_o pâ—â—â—â—m_fw-la per_fw-la nequitiam_fw-la cardiâ—alium_fw-la in_o ecclesiae_fw-la grâ—mium_fw-la injectam_fw-la etc._n etc._n idem_fw-la c._n tâ—_n quis_fw-la immensam_fw-la &_o iâ—â—â—tâ—icabiâ—em_fw-la voraginem_fw-la ipâ—orum_fw-la concupiscentiâ—_n ver_fw-la bis_fw-la square_a valeat_fw-la etc._n etc._n idem_fw-la c._n 12._o transâ—o_o simoniacal_a aâ—â—d_n papaâ—_n intercessioneâ—_n patrocinia_fw-la veâ—alia_fw-la corruptiones_fw-la aut_fw-la promotioneâ—â—â—â—pisâ—imâ—â—_n &_o damnaâ—isâ—â—â—s_n quae_fw-la omnes_fw-la ferè_fw-la istis_fw-la auctoribus_fw-la &_o suasoribus_fw-la â—iâ—bant_fw-la etc._n etc._n neâ—_n enumâ—rare_fw-la volo_fw-la câ—rum_fw-la adulteria_fw-la flupra_fw-la â—oâ—â—icâ—â—â—ones_fw-la quibus_fw-la romanam_fw-la curiâ—â—â—â—â—am_fw-la nuâ—â—_n incâ—â—â—ant_a etc._n etc._n neâ—_n refero_fw-la vsuras_fw-la etc._n etc._n quâ_fw-la ex_fw-la causa_fw-la nâ—â—mularioâ—_n supreme_a 〈…〉_o non_fw-it incongruâ—nâ—er_a â—oâ—_n quidam_fw-la vocant_fw-la and_o for_o their_o clergy_n how_o be_v they_o esteem_v among_o themselves_o aventine_n term_n they_o in_o his_o time_n great_a wolf_n lustful_a per_fw-la son_n adulterer_n ravisher_n of_o virgin_n and_o nun_n theive_v and_o usurper_n drone_n lecherous_a perfidious_a perjure_a ignorant_a ass_n wolf_n hypocrite_n narro_fw-la hypocrite_n aveâ—iniâ—_n l._n 6._o annal._n 〈◊〉_d cuâ—_n oâ—iâ—â—â—apâ—oâ—_n â—iâ—â—â—â—_n luâ—â—â—_n liâ—idinoâ—os_n adulteros_fw-la virginum_fw-la sacratâ—rum_fw-la foeminarum_fw-la â—â—upra_fw-la 〈…〉_o cocosâ—â—â—liâ—â—â—s_n latroâ—â—â—_n argeâ—tarioâ—_n numâ—xâ—â—rioâ—_n â—ucos_fw-la pecuniarum_fw-la aucupes_fw-la â—uâ—â—â—â—â—ditos_fw-la peâ—â—â—doâ—_fw-es 〈◊〉_d literarum_fw-la omnium_fw-la penitus_fw-la rudes_fw-la imponiâ—_n non_fw-la audita_fw-la loquoâ—_n â—â—_o quae_fw-la â—isâ—e_fw-fr oculis_fw-la video_fw-la narro_fw-la etc._n etc._n albertus_n express_v the_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o messenger_n of_o antichrist_n supplanter_n of_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n 10_o christ_n albertus_n in_o evangel_n johan._n c._n 10_o and_o how_o long_o they_o have_v continue_v this_o good_a opinion_n among_o all_o man_n the_o complaint_n and_o grief_n of_o man_n that_o have_v have_v any_o modesty_n in_o several_a age_n will_v declare_v alij_fw-la declare_v honour_v aâ—gust_n dial._n de_fw-fr praedest_fw-la &_o lib._n arbit_n verte_z te_fw-la ad_fw-la cives_fw-la babyloniae_fw-la &_o vide_fw-la quales_fw-la sint_fw-la etc._n etc._n alvares_n pelagiâ—s_v the_o planâ—â—â—_n ecclesiae_fw-la nic._n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr coâ—â—â—pto_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n 〈◊〉_d neâ—â—â—â—_n berâ—â—â—dâ—â—_n &_o alij_fw-la neither_o do_v this_o age_n minister_v unto_o we_o any_o hope_n that_o their_o doctrine_n be_v now_o of_o better_a efficacy_n though_o the_o papacy_n be_v honour_v with_o more_o glorious_a title_n then_o ever_o it_o be_v before_o in_o regard_n they_o do_v not_o as_o luther_n be_v by_o they_o pretend_v to_o have_v do_v term_v only_o some_o dissolure_n person_n swine_n but_o all_o their_o clergy_n and_o laiety_n also_o for_o so_o our_o irish_a regulars_n will_v have_v the_o irish_a bishop_n to_o be_v swineherd_n &_o their_o flock_n swine_n this_o be_v their_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o 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falso_fw-la 415._o ecclesia_fw-la propheâ—â—_n est_fw-la more_o than_o a_o prophet_n propheta_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 224._o plâ—â—quaâ—_n propheta_fw-la yea_o great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n prophetis_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la circ_n false_o 286._o major_a omnibus_fw-la prophetis_fw-la have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o 〈◊〉_d â—iâ—ar_n dicit_fw-la â—iâ—ar_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 416._o spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la vicarium_fw-la dicit_fw-la thus_o we_o see_v what_o judge_n the_o jesuite_n do_v contest_v for_o and_o how_o far_o they_o labour_v to_o extend_v his_o power_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v not_o only_o a_o prophet_n but_o more_o than_o a_o prophet_n yeaâ—_n great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n who_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o his_o vicâ—â—_n either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n have_v only_o power_n to_o determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n whereby_o we_o may_v know_v what_o to_o believe_v and_o what_o not_o with_o authority_n not_o only_o equal_a but_o superior_a to_o the_o scripture_n now_o what_o strength_n do_v the_o jesuite_n bring_v to_o confirm_v this_o rule_n his_o first_o place_n be_v esay_n liiii_o and_o the_o 17._o thou_o shall_v judge_v every_o tongue_n that_o shall_v resist_v theâ—_n in_o thy_o judgement_n 99_o judgement_n reply_v pag._n 99_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n be_v like_a to_o their_o divine_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n who_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o forbid_a schoole-disputes_a bring_v all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n and_o psalm_n where_o they_o stand_v the_o word_n confiteor_n and_o its_o verbal_a confissiâ—_n to_o prove_v auricular_a confession_n and_o they_o be_v account_v best_o learn_v who_o bring_v most_o of_o they_o 345._o they_o hist_o council_n tridâ—â—_n l._n 4._o p._n 345._o for_o here_o be_v nothing_o whereby_o to_o make_v the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n unless_o he_o will_v conclude_v that_o wheresoever_o judge_n or_o judgement_n be_v express_v it_o be_v mean_v of_o he_o the_o second_o be_v out_o of_o mat._n xi_o and_o the_o 18._o hâ—ll_o gate_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o she_o ibid._n she_o reply_v ibid._n we_o confess_v that_o all_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n but_o we_o say_v this_o church_n be_v neither_o the_o pope_n naked_a nor_o roman_a as_o have_v in_o many_o place_n be_v show_v yet_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v to_o what_o purpose_n this_o text_n be_v here_o produce_v the_o three_o place_n be_v mat._n xviii_o and_o the_o â—7_n hâ—e_n that_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o aâ—_n a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n ibid._n publican_n reply_v ibid._n if_o a_o infallible_a judge_n be_v here_o point_v out_o than_o all_o these_o absurdity_n will_v follow_v first_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v infallible_a and_o the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n for_o dâ—c_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la have_v relation_n to_o particular_a church_n not_o to_o the_o catholic_a second_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o error_n in_o criminal_a cause_n if_o this_o place_n point_v out_o a_o infallible_a judgement_n when_o as_o this_o infallibility_n be_v deny_v not_o only_o your_o own_o counsel_n but_o your_o pope_n also_o 3_o if_o the_o church_n judgement_n must_v be_v infallible_a because_o christ_n require_v we_o to_o hear_v the_o church_n how_o can_v the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v exclude_v from_o this_o privilege_n when_o the_o people_n be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o obey_v and_o follow_v they_o heb._n xiii_o 17._o his_o four_o place_n be_v ephes_n four_o ii_o and_o 14._o god_n have_v place_v in_o the_o church_n apostles_n prophet_n pastor_n and_o doctor_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v â—â—_o more_o little_a child_n â—aâ—oring_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n ibâ—â—_n doctrine_n reply_v ibâ—â—_n i_o shall_v show_v hereafter_o that_o this_o text_n make_v against_o his_o judge_n his_o monarch_n for_o the_o present_a he_o may_v take_v this_o with_o he_o first_o that_o we_o acknowledge_v as_o long_o as_o the_o church_n have_v apostles_n &_o prophet_n their_o testimony_n be_v divine_a and_o can_v infallible_o direct_v second_o although_o the_o â—aâ—tors_n now_o be_v mean_n ordain_v by_o god_n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o be_v no_o more_o little_a child_n waver_v with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v infallible_a judge_n see_v the_o argument_n may_v as_o well_o hold_v of_o each_o as_o of_o all_o who_o be_v ordain_v to_o the_o same_o end_n which_o i_o think_v the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o acknowledge_v his_o last_o be_v 1._o tim._n 2._o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o foundation_n of_o truth_n ibid._n truth_n reply_v ibid._n what_o therefore_o the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n this_o follow_v not_o for_o he_o be_v the_o rock_n if_o we_o believe_v popish_a interpreter_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v how_o then_o can_v he_o be_v the_o church_n infallible_o to_o direct_v the_o foundation_n sure_o differ_v from_o the_o roof_n the_o church_n that_o be_v build_v from_o the_o rock_n that_o she_o be_v build_v upon_o second_o the_o jesuite_n may_v know_v that_o we_o envy_v not_o the_o privilege_n which_o god_n have_v give_v his_o church_n nay_o he_o be_v no_o member_n of_o she_o that_o shall_v not_o reverence_v she_o with_o obedience_n and_o therefore_o we_o acknowledge_v she_o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n if_o contain_v the_o apostle_n absolute_o perfect_o if_o without_o the_o apostle_n we_o deny_v not_o her_o counsel_n but_o with_o all_o obedience_n embrace_v they_o if_o she_o command_v as_o she_o be_v limit_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n by_o the_o scripture_n but_o we_o see_v this_o place_n be_v more_o for_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n concern_v which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v literal_o than_o rome_n and_o yet_o experience_n have_v persuade_v we_o that_o there_o be_v no_o infallibility_n there_o further_o than_o this_o some_o of_o your_o own_o dare_v not_o go_v but_o make_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n the_o one_o they_o say_v be_v infallible_a but_o the_o other_o may_v sometime_o deceive_v collegum_fw-la deceive_v panorm_a in_o decret_a de_fw-fr senten_a excom_n cap._n 28._o judicium_fw-la dei_fw-la veritati_fw-la quae_fw-la nec_fw-la fallit_fw-la nec_fw-la fallitur_fw-la semper_fw-la innititur_fw-la judicium_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la aliquando_fw-la sequitur_fw-la opinionem_fw-la quae_fw-la sâ—pè_fw-la fallit_fw-la &_o fallitur_fw-la dry_a de_fw-fr dog_n ecclesl_n 2._o p._n 58._o generale_fw-mi concilium_fw-la papae_fw-la cardinalium_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la â—â—_o scripture_n propheticis_fw-la intelligendis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la tantae_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la quantae_fw-la fuerit_fw-la olim_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la collegum_fw-la for_o ruffinus_n his_o testimony_n that_o s._n basil_n and_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n do_v take_v the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n not_o according_a to_o their_o own_o proper_a understanding_n but_o according_a to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o father_n 99_o father_n reply_v p._n 99_o the_o jesuite_n point_v not_o out_o the_o place_n if_o he_o do_v i_o think_v little_a will_v appear_v for_o his_o purpose_n in_o regard_n he_o be_v to_o prove_v the_o authority_n of_o a_o judge_n not_o the_o discretion_n of_o a_o doctor_n and_o who_o doubt_n but_o any_o wise_a interpreter_n will_v use_v all_o mean_n that_o may_v inform_v he_o to_o perform_v his_o work_n but_o let_v ruffian_n pass_v augustine_n make_v a_o outcry_n and_o do_v not_o s._n augustine_n cry_v out_o say_v the_o jesuite_n that_o truth_n repose_v in_o the_o belly_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n etc._n reply_v ibid._n and_o who_o say_v 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church_n in_o those_o time_n wherein_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o his_o own_o learned_a father_n and_o brother_n it_o be_v invisible_a and_o not_o able_a to_o be_v sâ—â—nâ—_n 1st_a reply_v p._n 1st_a this_o will_v be_v be_v try_v in_o the_o examination_n when_o the_o jesuite_n will_v entreat_v one_o of_o his_o brethren_n to_o examine_v the_o same_o and_o answer_v it_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o charge_v we_o false_o to_o hold_v the_o church_n absolute_o invisible_a for_o if_o the_o church_n be_v consider_v as_o contain_v all_o of_o all_o age_n that_o believe_v the_o truth_n this_o we_o say_v be_v not_o total_o visible_a the_o great_a part_n be_v in_o heaven_n if_o we_o take_v the_o church_n for_o those_o which_o be_v sincere_a in_o their_o profession_n and_o be_v true_a member_n of_o christ_n 2._o tim._n 2._o 19_o then_o we_o say_v that_o a_o humane_a eye_n can_v behold_v any_o member_n thereof_o but_o by_o probability_n and_o conjecture_n if_o foâ—_n the_o people_n that_o 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there_o be_v many_o that_o profess_v the_o truth_n of_o christ_n in_o all_o age_n though_o under_o persecution_n in_o the_o succession_n of_o the_o babylonish_n tyranny_n and_o this_o the_o jesuit_n may_v have_v observe_v if_o he_o have_v read_v the_o same_o for_o by_o the_o place_n of_o ambrose_n in_o the_o title-page_n we_o may_v conceive_v that_o his_o intention_n be_v to_o show_v that_o though_o the_o church_n be_v in_o condition_n many_o time_n like_o the_o mâ—â—ne_n at_o full_a decrease_a increase_a yet_o it_o ever_o do_v remain_v a_o church_n and_o such_o a_o one_o who_o motion_n may_v be_v discern_v and_o describe_v 〈◊〉_d describe_v ambros_n hâ—xâ—â—â—er_n l._n 4._o c._n â—_o ecclesia_fw-la vide_fw-la tuâ—_n sicut_fw-la luna_fw-la dâ—ficere_fw-la sed_fw-la noâ—_n dâ—ficit_fw-la obâ—â—â—â—ari_fw-la poâ—â—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d secoâ—dly_o say_v the_o jesuite_n he_o bring_v in_o for_o pillarâ—_n of_o his_o successive_a church_n waldo_n wicklife_o and_o husse_n 110._o husse_n reply_v p._n 110._o here_o be_v sufficient_a to_o show_v that_o the_o jesuite_n do_v not_o care_n what_o he_o say_v nor_o fear_v to_o censure_v thing_n that_o he_o never_o see_v for_o it_o be_v câ—â—are_v