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A10835 A iustification of separation from the Church of England Against Mr Richard Bernard his invective, intituled; The separatists schisme. By Iohn Robinson. Robinson, John, 1575?-1625. 1610 (1610) STC 21109; ESTC S100924 406,191 526

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against_o god_n in_o do_v a_o thing_n wherein_o there_o be_v no_o sin_n the_o sin_n may_v be_v in_o the_o person_n do_v &_o not_o in_o the_o thing_n do_v as_o when_o a_o man_n do_v a_o good_a thing_n against_o his_o conscience_n or_o doubt_o and_o without_o faith_n 1_o john_n 3._o 20._o rom._n 14._o 23._o and_o where_o mr._n bern._n further_o advise_v rather_o to_o offend_v many_o private_a person_n then_o one_o lawful_a magistrate_n i_o doubt_v not_o he_o give_v no_o worse_a counsel_n than_o he_o himself_o follow_v who_o except_o i_o be_v much_o deceive_v in_o he_o have_v rather_o offend_v half_a the_o private_a person_n in_o the_o diocese_n than_o one_o archbishop_n though_o he_o be_v a_o unlawful_a magistrate_n but_o of_o the_o case_n of_o offence_n hereafter_o in_o the_o mean_a while_n let_v we_o remember_v
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