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A15431 Tetrastylon papisticum, that is, The foure principal pillers of papistrie the first conteyning their raylings, slanders, forgeries, vntruthes: the second their blasphemies, flat contradictions to scripture, heresies, absurdities: the third their loose arguments, weake solutions, subtill distinctions: the fourth and last the repugnant opinions of new papistes with the old; of the new one with an other; of the same writers with themselues: yea of popish religion with and in it selfe. Compiled as a necessarie supplement or fit appertinance to the authors former worke, intituled Synopsis papismi: to the glorie of God for the dissuading of light-minded men from trusting to the sandie foundation of poperie, and to exhort good Christians stedfastlie to hold the rockie foundation of faith in the Gospell. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1593 (1593) STC 25701; ESTC S119967 179,229 213

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is cast into the priuie Pag. 342. The thinges which it liketh your Sathanical spirite with blasphemous wordes to dishonor he meaneth the sacrament which indeede is by them most of all abused and dishonored Pag. 359. He calleth vs cursed Chananites Pag. 187. Ye falsely and wickedly lead the people ye are Apostataes ye are heretiques ye are impudent and rebellious children Pag. 404. These defenders in conditions be like such honest women as commonly we call Scoldes Pag. 409. Loe a grieuous and an heauie case that the world calleth you wicked and vngodlie men I wis they be too blame for it and so be they that call them theeues which come to be promoted to Tibor●e Pag. 446. Your impudencie of lying hath no measure nor end Pag. 459. The fiendes of hell were not yet let loose that begat Lutheranes Zuinglians Caluinistes and here of we vnderstand the youth of your Church which is no other but the malignant Church and Synagogue of Sathan Pag. 465. Though the defender feare not to be accounted a lyer yet should he be loth to be accountedan vnhonest man yea and specially a foole Pag. 502. We recken not what Luther saith what Zuinglius what Caluine what Antichrist what Sathan saith Pag. 506. If this defender were compared to a mad dog some perhaps would thinke it an vnmanerlie comparison let the man be as he is verilie the maner and fashion of both is alike Pag. 510. He calleth vs light preachers wicked vowbreakers lewde leacherous lurdens detestable blasphemers such is your deuilish rabble saith he This is M. Hardinges eloquence Pag. 524. O thou captaine lyer O most worthie not the reward of a whetstone but the iudgement of a backbiter of a slaunderer of a cursed speaker of the accuser of the bretheren of a blasphemer Canst thou perswade thy selfe to get credite by lying to seeme sober by rayling honest by villanie charitable by slaundering And al this stir is because we charge them with burning of scriptures which their vngodly practises here in England do notoriously shew to be true Pag. 549. He sheweth himselfe a foole a slaunderer an vnlearnedman Pag. 576. Here pricketh forth this hastie defender as peart as a pearemonger and faine would talke with the pope himselfe Pag. 602. Ye cannot abide salt water oyle the crosse And no maruel No more can not the deuill who possesseth you and rideth you Pag. 607. It shoulde haue become Scoggin Patch ●●lle Harry Pattenson or Wil Sommer to haue told this tale much better then your superintendentship's And if ye would needs haue plaied the part your selues it had bene more conuenient to haue done it vpon the stage vnder a vices coate then in a booke c. And all this because their practises in seducing the people of God are compared to Ieroboams who entised the people from the true worship of God at Ierusalem by setting vp two Golden calues Pag. 616. When were euer such theeues in the Church of God as ye are Ibid. If all iffes were true then if heauen fell we should catch larkes And if a bridge were made between Douer and Caleis we might go to Boleine a foote as William Sommer once told King Henrie the eight Because M. Iewel had said if the Church of Rome can not erre the good lucke thereof is farre greater then these mens pollicie for such is their doctrine and life that for all them the Church may not onely erre but be vtterly spoiled Pag. 617. By your Apostacie ye haue done more wickedly then if ye committed Idolatrie Pag. 648. Sirs would ye haue the common people to come to the generall Councels Whom meane yee I pray you Tinkers and Tapsters Fidlers and Pipers such as your ministers be Alas poore soules what shoulde they doe there for there is no tinking nor tipling nor fidling nor piping there they may shut vp both budgets and mouthes But here M. Harding neede not thus to haue vpbraided our ministers with such scoffing and iesterlike termes if he had remembred as M. Iewell telleth him what Alphons de Castro reporteth of the popes Constat plures Papas adeo esse illiteratos vt grammaticam penit us ignorent That manie of them were so vnlearned that they were ignorant of their grammar Pag. 680. As I cannot well take an haire from your lying beard so wish I that I could plucke malice from your blasphemous hart Neither doth M. Harding heere content him selfe thus spitefully to haue entreated the liuing calling our Ministers Coblers Tapsters Tinkers Ministers wiues sober and graue matrons with him no better then strumpets But he doth most vnhonestly snatch and carpe at the dead reuile Gods Saintes terming the booke of Acts and Monumentes a huge dunghill of stinking martyrs Yea he presumeth to sitte in Gods chaire wresting the iudgment out of his hand and giueth sentence of condemnation against vs. The authors and professors of them be dead and rotten in hell fire with weeping and grinning of teeth the like iudgement looke ye and your fellowes to haue if ye repent not And in another place After ye haue fried and boiled saith he in rancour and malice against the Church ye are like to leape into the furnace of hell Thus wee heare M. Hardinges sugred eloquence Iudge nowe good Christian Reader whether this man haue not beene well trained vp in Sathans schoole as he slaunderously saith of vs. These and such like are M. Hardinges flowers who liste to take a further view of them shall finde them to be collected as into one bundle by B. Iewell where these pleasant sortes shall be offered to his smell Your deuilish spite your deuilish wickednesse your deuilish villanie Sathan is your schoolemaster your father the deuill your new Church set vp by Sathan you are the schoole of Sathan children of the deuill A page a slaue a clawbacke of the deuill your reprobate congregation your confused tentes of Sathan the nouice of the deuill Sathans broode Sathan holdeth you captiue ye are fast bound in Sathans fetters loose apostates prophane hel-houndes your blasphemies Sathanismes Caluinistes Sathanistes your wicked Chams brood your damnable side your deuilish rabble your congregation of reprobates your Turkish doctrine As craftie knaues in a comedie they are Apes they are Asses with such like Iewel prefat defens Apolog. But least we should thinke that M. Harding onely hath profited in this blacke and popish Rhetorike let vs see also the modestie of other mens spirits out of that schoole We shall easely finde that they are all one womans children and haue had all one schoole maister their stile and speech is so alike Bonauenture a frier of Loraine disputing with Wolfgangus vsed these as his best argumentes Thou heretike Iudas Beelzebub Bellarmine the mildest and most modest childe of that crue yet sometime sheweth the badge of his profession Ab alio spiritu Caluinus agitur saith he vt se Valentino opponat sic inter se daemonibus colludentibus
thereof That wee affirme the Church may faile in faith Annot. Luk 18. Sect. 8. Wee say onely that the Church may erre in some points of doctrine but not finally fall away from the faith Fulk ibid. That we pretend that God draweth vs against our wil without any respect to our consent Iohn 6. 2. God of vnwilling maketh vs willing by changing our will to embrace Christ gladly and otherwise we teach not That wee affirme the Holie Ghost to be none other but the gift of wisedome in the Apostles and a fewe other for gouernment Annot. Act. 8. Sect. 7. But none of vs sayth so It is a meere slaunder That wee allow no fasting but morall temperance and spirituall fasting from sinne Act. 13. Sect. 5. Whereas we do acknowledge a Christian vse of fasting and abstinence from all meates and drinkes for the taming of the flesh and making vs more fit to pray not an abstinence from flesh onely as they do superstitiously imagine That wee should saye that the preaching of the lawe and iudgement to come maketh men hypocrites Act. 24. Sect. 2. Whereas wee hold the preaching of the lawe to be necessarie to bring men to repentance But iustificatiō by keeping the law which they teach we vtterly condemne That wee would haue all men to be present and giue voice in Councels Act. 19. Sect. 5. We say not so for that were impossible But we hold against our aduersaries that as wel the learned and discreete amongst the lay men as the Clergie ought to be admitted to consult of religion And that not only Bishops but other Pastors also and Ministers ought to haue deciding voices in Councels That wee condemne good woorkes as sinfull Pharisaicall hypocriticall Rom. 2. Sect. 3. Whereas we acknowledge them to be the good gifts of God the fruits of iustification the way wherein all Christians must walke to saluation We onely exclude them from being any cause of our iustification before God Annot. Rom. 2. Sect. 4. That wee affirme that God iustifieth man that is to saye imputeth to him the iustice of Christ though hee bee not indeede iust or of fauour reputeth him as iust when in deed he is wicked impious and vniust And that we thinke it is more to Gods glorie and more to the commendation of Christes iustice merites and mercie to call and count an ill man so continuing for iust than of his grace and mercie to make him of an ill one iust in deede and so truely to iustifie him This is a great slaunder For wee thinke and saie that God of a wicked man by his grace and mercie doth make him iust in deede by the iustice of Christ neither calling no● accounting him iust that continueth wicked as he was before but giuing him also the spirite of sanctification whereby after he is made iust by grace he doth the workes of iustice and keepeth Gods commaundements though not perfectly in this life Fulk ibid. That wee gather of those termes vsed by the Apostle Rom. 4. couered v. 7. not imputed v. 8. That the sinnes of men be neuer truely forgiuen but hidden onely Annot. Rom. 4. Sect. 7. Wee say that our sinnes are truelie forgiuen vs for Christes sake and our conscience freely discharged of them Christ hauing satisfied the iustice of God perfitly for them That wee teach that the Sacramentes of the Church giue not grace and iustice of faith but that they be notes markes badges onely of our remission of sinnes Rom. 4. Sect. 8. Wee say not that they are only markes and badges but as the Apostle saith seales of God to assure our faith of iustification by remission of sinnes And yet it followeth not that the sacraments should giue or conferre grace That to establish our fiction of confidence as they not without blasphemie call it wee make no account of the Articles of the Faith the beleeuing whereof onely iustifieth they say Annot. Rom. 4. Sect. 9. Wheras wee affirme that we are iustified by none other faith but that which is declared in those Articles not by a bare knowledge or beleefe of them that they are true which the diuel hath many reprobates but by stedfast beleeuing of them with a sure trust and confidence in Christ whereby we are made partakers of his precious merites and assured of the remission of our sinnes That we should say Man hath no more free will than a piece of clay Rom. 9. Sect. 7. Whereas we onely saie that our free will hath no power or strength at all to will or doe the thing that is good without the grace of God That we say the faithfull be sure they shall neuer sinne Rom. 8. Sect. 9. We saie onely that they are sure to be preserued from that sinne which is irremissible which is the sinne against the Holie Ghost That where the Apostle saith It is better to marrie than to burne that the Protestants thinke to burne is nothing else but to be tempted because they would easilie picke quarrels to marrie 1. Corinth 7. Sect. 8. Wee do not so thinke that to burne is onely to be tempted but to be so continually inflamed with lust that the will doth consent desire quenching Fulk ibid. That wee will not haue men woorke well in respect of rewarde at Gods hande 1. Corinth 9. Sect. 7. Wee say not so but that men ought not to worke well onely as hirelings for hope of rewarde but chiefely and principally of louing obedience and duetie as of children to their father That wee seeme by abandoning other names of the Communion sauing this calling it supper to haue it at night and after meate 1. Corinth 11. Sect. 8. Wee retaine other names of this Sacrament beside as the Communion the Sacrament of the bodie and bloud of Christ the Eucharist and such like and it is but a vaine conceit that wee encline it to haue it at night when they see our vsuall and dailie practise to the contrarie They say wee professe that wee make no consecration benediction or sanctification of the bread and wine at all in the Sacrament but let the bread and wine stande aloofe and that wee occupie Christes wordes by way of report onely and narration applying them not at all to the Elements proposed to be occupied 1. Corinth 11. Sect. 9. All this is vtterly false for wee professe that by praise and thankes-giuing for the death of Christ and by prayer vnto God that we may be partakers of the bodie and bloud of Christ we consecrate blesse and sanctifie the bread and wine to be the holy blessed Sacraments of the bodie and bloud of Christ. And wee doe also apply the wordes of institution to the Elements though not after their Magicall fantasie praying thus That wee receiuing the secreatures of bread and wine according to Christes holie iustitution which is rehearsed out of the Gospell in remembrance of his passion may be partakers of his most blessed bodie and bloud This is who seeth
followed of all the faithfull Bellarm. de Rom. pontific lib. 4. cap. 2. What an absurd thing is this to binde the Church absolutely to obey a man as wel when he erreth as when he erreth not S. Paul durst require no more of the Corinthians but to follow him as he followed Christ. 1. Co. 11. 1. In the late deuised doctrin of their imagined Antichrist our aduersaries are driuen to graunt many absurdities 1. That Antichrist shal come of the tribe of Dan Rhemist 2. Thess. 2. sect 8. Whereas it is certaine that the tribes of the Iewes are now shufled together the distinction of their kinreds families is not kept for if in Ezra his time after the captiuity their genealogies were not perfitly known and therefore some were put from the priesthood Ezra 2. 62. how much more now the Iewes hauing beene dispersed in the worlde almost 16. hundred yeares is it like that their petigree and descent from their fathers is not obserued 2 Antichrist say they shall haue his imperiall seate at Ierusalem and reedifie againe the temple and commaund circumcision to be vsed Bellarm lib. 3. de pontif cap. 13. This is a great absurditie contradicting the trueth of scripture for Haggai the prophet calleth the temple builded by Zorobabel the last house 2. 10. But if it shal be the third time erected how was that the last 3 That Antichrist shall raigne but 3. yeares and an halfe and yet in this space shall fight with the three Kinges of Lybia Aegypt Aethiopia and persecute the Christians through the whole worlde Bellarm. cap. 16. But let any man say how is it possible that in so short a time Anti-christ should conquere and subdue the whole world In the which space a man can hardly compasse or goe through the world The popish religion preferreth the rich before the poore euen in spirituall matters Ideo in hoc solo casu melior est conditio diuitis quam pauperis quia habet vnde suffragia fiant pro ipso In this case only the estate of the rich is better then the poore because hee hath where with all suffrages shoulde be made for him that is hee is able to giue largely for Masses Albert. Mag. de offic missal tract 3. But the scripture biddeth otherwise that wee shoulde not haue respect vnto the rich that hath a golde ring or weareth gay apparell Iam. 2. 2. The signe of the crosse euen by the very act and making of the signe though it be done by a Iew Infidel or pagane is offorce to driue away the Deuill Bellarm. de imaginib sanct cap. 30. Yea but carnall weapons such as the signe of the Crosse is profit not good Christians against their spirituall enemies 2. Cor. 10. 4. how much lesse Paganes or Infidels The Iesuite maketh two representations of the death of Christ there is simplex repraesentatio a simple plaine representation and that is in the sacrament of the Eucharist and there is repraesentatio ad viuum a full and liuely representation of Christ that is vpon good Friday when Christs death is set foorth by diuers gestures actions instruments copes and vestmentes Bellarm. lib. 1. de Miss cap. 1. But how absurde a thing this is euery man may see that the representation of Christes death in the Sacrament instituted of the Lord himselfe to be a shewing foorth of his death should be but a plaine and simple representation and the other deuised by man being done without a Sacrament should bee called a liuely representation What is this else but to set the spirit of God to schoole as though a more liuely shewing foorth of Christes death could bee deuised by man then was ordained by Christ It is not necessarie they say in euery Sacrament to haue a visible signe and therefore the wordes of absolution which are audible though not visible may bee the externall signe in penance Bellarm. lib. 1. de poenitent cap. 11. See what an absurde saying this is for by this reason the preaching of the word may be a sacrament because there is an audible sound Likewise in the Popish Sacrament of matrimonie the Iesuite maketh the parties contracted both the matter of matrimonie and the Ministers and the forme to be these words I take thee c. Bellarm. de matrim cap. 6. Here are two great absurdities for first the preachers Ministers of the word only are the dispensers of the mysteries sacraments of the Church 1. Cor. 4. 1. therfore the parties themselues cannot be the ministers of matrimony which they say is a sacramēt Secondly it is not euery word that sanctifieth but the word of God 1. Timoth. 4. 5. but these wordes I take thee c. are no part of the word therefore they haue no power to sanctifie The Rhemistes holde opinion that Henoch and Elias doe yet liue in their bodies in Paradise Apocal. 11. sect 4. But paradise is nowe no other place but heauen 1. Corinth 12. 2. 4. But there they say Henoch and Elias are not for they shal come againe in their own persons as they hold and resist Antichrist and in the end be stayne of him but bodies once glorified in heauen can no more die neither are subiect to violence If then they bee not in heauen they are not in paradise which is no other place but heauen Let now any indifferent man iudge how handsomely these things agree together That the Angels shall be are the signe of the Crosse before Christ comming to iudgement Bellarm. de sanctis lib. 2. ca. 28. This also is a phantasticall conceite of theirs without any ground of Scripture or anie good reason But of all other popish absurdities these are most grosse and palpable which they are driuen to confesse about their deuise of transubstantiation in the Eucharist First they doe graunt that the body of Christ may bee and is in many places at once locally and visiblie that his flesh is at the same time in heauen and in earth in the Eucharist Bellarm. de sacram Eucharist lib. 3. cap. 4. Yet the Angell sayth contrary Hee is risen for hee is not here Math. 28. 6. Which had beene no good argument if Christes bodie be in many places at once Secondly they further affirme that Christes body in heauen and at the same time in earth are not sundry bodies or diuers partes of one body but one whole body not deuided or discontinued from it selfe Bellarm. ibid. Thus they make Christ a monstrous body that can fill heauen and earth and indeed they in so saying destroy his humanitie Thirdly they graunt that the body of Christ is in the Sacrament with all his partes and dimensions hands face feete Bellarm. lib. 3. de Eucharist cap. 7. But what an absurde and impossible thing is this that the body of a man as of three cubites in height and hauing other dimensions answearable to the proportion and stature of an humane body should bee inclosed in a thinne wafer cake such
will adde also good proceedings and the Lord both vnto your good proceeding and vertuous beginning shal giue an happy end In te nūc puta cunctorum ora oculos conuersos ad spectaculum vitae tuae totam consedisse Angliam Al mens eies are vpon your Honor and haue as it were set led themselues to behold your doings God grant and we trust that all things shall be answearable to their expectation Lastly the Lord prosper your godlie enterprises and giue a blessing to your holy Counsels euen the blessing of Caleb That as Caleb droue the Anakims great Giantes by strong hand out of Hebron so at the length by your prudent godly counsaile with the assistance of the rest of the Honorable Lords of the Counsell Nobilitie vnder the leading of our happy Iosua gracious Soueraigne the Romish Anakims traiterous Iesuites and Seminaries with other rebellious and hollow harted Cananites may be weeded out of the Lords fielde in England that you with faithfull Caleb and Iosua may also haue an euerlasting inheritance in the heauenlie Canaan through the onely merites of Iesus Christ to whom bee praise for euer Tui honoris studiosissimus ANDREAS WILLET ❧ The preface to the Christian Reader IT is the common and vsuall practise of wrangling and cauilling spirites who to preuent other mens accusations doe themselues first begin to accuse and challenge others of the same crimes which they are guiltie of Thus Sathan the accuser of the brethren sometime dealt with Iob saying vnto God that if he would but stretch foorth his hand a little and touch all he had hee would not spare to blaspheme God to his face whereas nothing is more common with that old Serpent then to curse and blaspheme God Thus our aduersaries of the Popish religion which indeed is no religion but meere superstition haue subtillie sought to vndermine vs crying out against vs that wee are lyers Idolaters blasphemers and such like which are titles and epithetes fitter and more proper to themselues They charge vs with rayling Harding Confut. apolog cap. 16. diuis 2. with lying Defens apolog pag. 597. with corrupting and altering of scripture Rhemist 2. Corinth 2. sect 8. with fables Rhemist 1. Timoth. 1. sect 4. with execrations and blasphemies Iud. 3. with heresies Bellarm. de notis eccles lib. 4. cap. 9. They obiect against vs the weaknes of our proofes and arguments Harding defeus apolog p. 625. often innouating and changing of Religion Rhemist 2. Corinth 2. v. 8. Diuisions dissensions among ourselues Harding defens apolog p. 239. Yea that wee may see how true their other accusations are they are not ashamed to charge vs with Idolatrie and worshipping of Idols Rhemist 1. Corinth 10. sect 9. Wherfore that it may appeare to the world how vniustly they haue accused vs how subtilly they would vnburden exonerate thēselues of those crimes which are theirs not ours to this ende I haue vndertaken this labour in this treatise to detect and bewray their guiltines in this behalfe that we may bee purged from their slaunders and our cause iustified and that the shame blame may fall vpon them that haue deserued it As for vs wee raile not neither vse reuiling speech yet sometime we tell them roundly their owne and this may bee done without rayling vnlesse they will say Christ rayled when he tolde the Iewes that they had made his fathers house a denne of theeues But their rayling and venemous dartes which they shoot at vs are notoriouslie knowen and cannot be hide It is the grace of popish writers both old and new to stuffe their bookes full with cursing rayling Stapleton that blacke-mouthed Sophister of Louaine hath of late set foorth a booke against D. Whitakers wherein beside the badnesse of his cause he hath disgraced his profession with bitter and filthie tearmes calling that learned and godly man Rusticum fatuum asinum asininum professorem morionem stolidum Foole clowne asse doit yea he is so impudent that he spareth not to reuile the deade most shamefully calling Caluine that worthie Minister of the Gospel Egregium Nebulonem a notable knaue I thinke Stapletons owne friendes and patrones here in England will blush and be ashamed of him when they find such stuffe in his booke Neither doth Stapleton thus take on in his moode as carried away with some intemperate heate but being in his wittes if in his right wittes and well aduised and of purpose he falleth into this cogging vaine giuing M. Whitakers warning thereof aforehande age Whitakare ●t ad patientiam te compone willing him to take patiently what he saith Indeed M. Stapleton your counsell is good for shoote out your venemous dartes as long as yee will wee care not wee haue a sense for them and a buckler to latch thē as Augustine saith verie well Quaeso mi frater quasi has diaboli sagittas ad petram quae est Christus allidens sume scutum fidei I giue thee counsel my brother to rebound these arrowes of Sathan vpon the rocke which is Christ taking the shield of faith And such patience is in this case necessarie for M. Whitakers and the rest of vs protestantes as the same father speaketh of else where Quemadmodum parentes a filis vel pueris vel phreneticis multa patiuntur donec infantia vel aegritude transeat ita Christianus ab impijs tanquam phreneticis multa pati debet Like as parents do suffer manie things at their sons hands while they are children or phrentick til their childishnes or phrensie be past thus Christians must patiently beare manie things of the wicked as of men taken with phrensie Such intemperate and railing speeches then of Papistes we attribute either to their childish ignorance or phrentike malitiousnes Concerning the other accusations of heresie blasphemie lying corruption of scriptures and such other it shal appeare I trust in this discourse that they are the men none other that are faultie herein As for fables they do vs great wrong to cast them vpon vs their owne legend of lies and infinite fabulous stories do plaintie tell vs that poperie is fuller of fables then the heresies of the Valentinians or the Manichees Their other charge concerning iunouation and dissention is returned vpon themselues for who knoweth not that the Iesuites of these daies haue innouated and changed in the most pointes the old popish profession and haue cast it into a newe mould and brought in a new forme of Pope catholike doctrine But we in substance retaine the same Religion which at the first reuiuing of the Gospel was maintained 40. yeares ago by the Protestants As for dissensions in fundamental pointes and articles concerning faith we haue none In other matters there haue bene some contentions among vs more we graunt then needed more hotely pursued of some then was requisite yet they are neither in weight so great or in number so many nor so
These and an hundred such like proper Rhetoricall speeches our good countri-man hath sent vs from Louaine to shew how he hath profited in popish eloquence and to make vp our mouthes after he hath long dallied in wordes in good sober sadnes he speaketh thus friendly vnto vs Omniū quidem haereticorū caecitas magna est pertinacia singularis sed vestra hodie Whitachere tua inquam tuorumque con●enarum haereticorum tum caecitas tum pertinacia longè maxima est In all heretikes there is both great blindnesse and singular obstinacie but thy blindnes Whitakers and wilfulnes with the rest of thy fellow-heretikes passeth all lib. 3. cap. 7. sect 5. Wee are much beholding to you good countriman Father Thomas Stapleton that worthie Louanian professor for we will giue you your titles though that worthie man be but plaine whitakers with you that you can finde in your hart to giue vs the vpper hand in blindnes and wilfulnes of all heritikes that euer were But cursed and confounded bee all such heretikes as are more wilfullye blinde and obstinate against the truth then papists be This doubtie Doctor sturdie Stapleton chargeth as wee haue seene this godlie learned man with foure especial crimes ignorance follie impudencie lying But you M. Stapleton therein shew your selfe neither so deepe a clarke nor so wise a man or of so sober a spirit as you would be taken for As for the first his which you cal ignorāce shal be able by Gods grace to match ouermatch your Louaniā learning or sophistrie rather The folishnes of the Gospell simplicity of the truth in him shal not giue place to your humane and serpentine wisedome In deede he is too modest too milde and humble a man to deale with so proud vainglorious and spitefull boasters A wrangling Sophister were fitter to answere your intemperat and immodest rayling than so graue and reuerend a Diuine But as for lying take it to your selues both it and the father therof There shal be more trueth found in fewe of his lines than manie of your leaues and more good diuinitie in one page than is in your whole booke And haue you beene these foure yeres in hatching so goodly a bird and bringing foorth a Cockatrice egge Surely you haue spent your time well And be these the frutes of your studies Wel ex vnguibus Leonem by such fruits we know what the tree is what neede other arguments your vsual and customarie railing bewraieth your malicious spirite And tell me you wretched miserable men which haue nothing more common in your mouthes than to call vs asses doults fooles how can you escape that heauie sentence of our Sauiour which saith that who so calleth his brother foole is in danger of hell fire Math. 5. But it is no newe thing for Heretikes to raile and reuile it hath euer beene their custome and guise The Pelagians called Augustine Cultorem daemonum a worshipper of diuels August cont Iulian. lib. 3. cap. 18. The Donatists accused Cecilian a Catholicke Bishop of sinne against the holie Ghost August contra Crescon lib. 4. cap. 17. So it is true as Maxentius saith Haeretici cum peruersitatis suae non possunt reddere rationem ad maledicta conuertuntur Heretikes when they finde them selues not able to yeeld a reason of their wilfulnes then they fall to plaine rayling Such plentie of scoffes taunts of cursings reuilings is an euident signe of an euill cause bewraieth a cankred stomacke We will not answer them in the same kinde for our cause is better our malice hatred much lesse It grieueth not vs to be euill spoken of without cause We are sorie for them they hurt not vs but blemish their owne credit before men and make their account more heauie before God I wil shut vp this place with that good saying of Bernard Bonum mihi si me dignetur Deus vti pro Clypeo libens excipio in me detrahentium linguas maledicas vt nō ad ipsum perueniāt It is good for mee if God vouchsafe to vse me in steed of a buckler I willingly do latch in my selfe the dartes of slaunderous tongues that they light not vpon him Popish slaunders and false accusations Part. 2. NOw in the next place hauing tasted sufficiently of the first dish of their bitter sower taunts reproches which we haue had but a cold welcom vnto let vs take an assay of the next And that I feare me we shal find not much plesanter Yet because wee will not be vnmannerly ghestes wee will taste of euery dish Our aduersaries therefore are not contended to load vs with bitter and vnsauourie words but they do also charge vs with fained and deuised things accusing vs falsely and imposing vpon vs strange vnknowen articles Their accusations then and false challenges are either generall against our whole Church or particular directed leauelled against some speciall men and both kindes concerning either the doctrine or maners of our Church of these in order and first of their accusations in generall and vaine surmises of our doctrine and here I will especially follow our Rhemistes as before we made bold with master Harding who in this case are verie plentifull They charge vs to say That the Church consisteth onely of the elect and that there are no euill men in the Church Annot. Math. 3. Sect. 7. Math. 22. Sect. 2. Whereas wee affirme that the visible Church vpon earth hath both good and bad in it but the inuisible Church we hold to consist of the elect onely Annot. Math. 19. Sect. 11 that wee should saye God can do no more than he hath done or will do which they call blasphemous infidelitie Wee say no such thing but onely this that God can do nothing contrary to his owne will word glorie and yet is Almightie Annot. Math. 23. Sect. 6. That wee teach It is enough to haue onely faith Wee teach no such thing wee say that faith onely iustifieth but faith working by loue as Saint Paul saith not voide of good workes Galath 5. 6. That wee say the Church hath failed many hundred yeres til Luther and Caluin Annot. Math. 28. Sect. 2. Whereas we beleeue that the Church hath alwaies continued and shall continue till the end of the world That we hold that it is sufficient to be baptized with the Holie Ghost and that water is not necessarie Annot. Mark 1. Sect. 5. But wee graunt that baptisme with water is necessarie if it may be had acording to Christes institution Otherwise in those that are preuented by death wee affirme that the lacke of water cannot depriue them of their inheritance That wee say all things are easie in Scripture Annot. Luk. 6. Sect. 1. Wee say no such thing but confesse that manie things are therein harde to be vnderstood Yet the doctrine of faith to be in the word plainly declared so that the people may safely be admitted to the reading
P. 146. He thus friendly saith vnto vs If you do not allowe euerie man yea and euery woman to be a Priest why driue ye not some of your fellowes to recant that so haue preached Why allowe yee the bookes of your new Euangelistes that so haue written An odious vntruth for touching the Ministerie of the Church wee haue none that either haue preached so or written so Iewel defens Apolog. pag. 146. That wee saye all things necessarie to saluation are expressed in the Scriptures pag. 240. But so wee say not Wee holde that all things necessarie are either in the Scriptures expressed or therein contained by necessarie collection and diduction to be drawen from the same That wee which say wee can by no meanes fulfill the law of God doe make God vniust euill impotent and not able to giue so much grace as may helpe to fulfill his lawe pag. 368. Wee make not God vniust or impotent but wee confesse our selues to be sinners Neither is the question here what God is able to doe but what he hath promised for howsoeuer God be able by his abounding grace to make vs perfect in this life and altogether voide of sinne as wee shall be in the life to come yet his power is not contrarie to his will reuealed in his worde which saith that all men haue sinned Rom. 3. 23. And as many as are of the workes of the lawe are vnder the curse Galath 3. 10. That wee tell Christian men they may worke as much as they will but all in vaine page 371. Vntruth for wee saye with Saint Paul your woorkes shall not bee in vaine in the Lorde Although wee doe exclude them from being any cause or meane of our saluation and that by the warrant of the Scriptures Roman 3. 28. Ephesian 2. 10. and in other places That wee professe that the faith of the Catholike Church may faile and fall page 493. Wee speake not of the vniuersall Catholike Church but of the Church of Rome or of any other particular Church which may faile in faith as wee see the Churches of Corinth and Galatia are nowe thoroughly departed from the faith and are wholly subiect to the Turke That wee animate temporall Magistrates by the pretensed example of Dauid and Salomon to intermeddle with Bishops offices pag. 689. Vntruth it is not our doctrine But they rather embolden the Pope to meddle with Princes offices And Bellarmine a great Champion of theirs doeth free vs from this slaunder who confesseth of vs that wee holde Regimen ecclesiasticum spirituale esse distinctum a politico That the Ecclesiasticall regiment is spirituall and a thing distinct from the politicall or temporall That wee teach that the Lordes supper is verie bakers bread and wine with the onely figure of Christes bodie and bloud pag. 320. But wee neuer so vnreuerently called that holy Sacrament It is your selfe master Harding that doeth so vilely disgrace this holie Mysterie calling it A piece of bread not woorth a point a leane and carrien banket a toye Wee call it the Sacrament of thankes-giuing the Sacrament of the bodie and bloud of Christ with other names fit for so great mysteries Neither doe wee make them bare figures and signes but as the Apostle saith seales of the righteousnes of faith Rom. 4. 11. Now hauing seene thus farre with what false opinions they charge our Church generally in respect of our doctrine let vs take some triall also of their iust and true dealing with vs in matters belonging to manners And here I doe not thinke but wee shall finde them halting as before First Harding chargeth vs with continuall aduoutrie and incest calling without all honestie or shame Ministers lawfull wedded wiues their filthie yokefellowes pag. 439. Yea hee saith that our Gospel hath no substance beside carnall libertie and licentious liuing pag. 289. And that thorough our euill teaching the worlde groweth more to be dissolute and wicked pag. 382. But if master Harding had remembred the dissolutenes and licentiousnes of life that is at Rome Hee could not without blushing haue charged vs with incest aduowtries and all Carnall libertie He had forgotten belike that olde English prouerbe Hee that goeth once to Rome seeth a wicked man hee that goeth twise learneth to know him hee that goeth thrise bringeth him home with him Fox pag. 843. The Rhemistes doe accuse the Protestants whom they call heretikes for their lightnesse in admitting euery one without discretion to the Clergie 1. Timoth. 3. 6. But as for that vncharitable name of heretikes wee shall shewe anone that it is more proper vnto them than vnto vs. And neuer any heresie admitted more vnworthie persons to the Clergie than Papistrie hath done not onely into the inferiour places but euen into their chiefe Bishops see for as Alphons testifieth whome wee cited before Manie of their Popes did not knowe so much as their Grammar Harding chargeth the Protestants in diuers Countries to haue attempted to wrest the sworde out of the Princes handes Were the hundred thousand Boures in Germanie saith he consumed by the sworde of the Nobilitie there for their obedience P. 441. So hee slaundereth Luther also that hee stirred vp Thomas Munzer in Thuringia who was the Rebels preacher pag. 447. Thus the Rhemistes deale with Caluin calling him one of the principall Rebels of this time and moste falsely giue out of the Protestants that their Consistories are shoppes of rebellion Thus also they report of Wickliffe that hee should teach that Princes are not to be obeyed being in deadly sinne Annotation 1. Peter 2. Sect. 8. All these are malicious slaunders deuised against vs. First the boures of Germanie were most of them aduersaries to Luther and vnderstoode no parte of the Gospell but conspired together as they saide onely against the crueltie of their Lordes as they had two and twentie yeares before in the conspiracie called Liga Sotularia Anno 1503. fifteene yeares before Doctor Luther began to preache which was Anno 1518. Iewell pag. 441. Secondly Luther was so farre from stirring vp Thomas Munzer that hee called him the preacher of Sathan Sleidan li. 5. Thirdly Neither did Wickliffe teach any such thing for he him selfe was obedient both to Edward the third and to Richard the second both which princes as wee knowe were guiltie of some notorious sinnes Fourthly you rather shewe your selues the rebelles of this age who make no conscience in mouing the subiects to rise vp and conspire against their naturall Soueraignes And England knoweth by experience that your Seminaries of Rome and Rhemes are the shops of rebellion which haue forged so manie conspiracies against our Soueraigne but all hitherto in vaine the Lorde be thanked and wee trust in God shal be so still yee might therefore haue beene ashamed to haue cast vs in the teeth with that which your owne consciences may accuse your selues of Thus much of the slaunders in generall which they belch out against our whole Church now wee will