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A90966 A moderate reply to the citie-remonstrance; presented to the High Court of Parliament the 26 of May, 1646. Containing severall reasons why many well affected citizens cannot assent thereunto. Published according to order. Price, John, Citizen of London. 1646 (1646) Wing P3343A; Thomason E340_20; ESTC R200880 24,625 36

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A MODERATE REPLY TO THE Citie-Remonstrance PRESENTED TO THE HIGH COURT OF PARLIAMENT the 26 of May 1646. Containing severall Reasons why many well affected CITIZENS cannot assent thereunto Published according to Order LONDON Printed for Matthew Simmons and Henry Overton in Popes-head Alley 1646. A MODERATE REPLY TO THE CITIE Remonstrance THE Citie Representative as it is made up and chosen by the Citie collective so should it act for the good of the same but it is more common then commendable for men betrusted with other mens good to behave themselves to their trustees hurt There are foure cases wherein the City collective is not bound to the City representative but ought in duty to dissent from it if not to protest against it 1. When the City representative acts in a direct evident and obvious manner against the expresse will and word of God 2. When in the like plaine and direct manner it acts against the apparent welfare peace and good of the Kingdome 3. When it acts after the same manner against the proper end of its own being the Cities welfare 4. When it acts beyond the bounds limits and extents appointed to the endangering of all its immunities and freedomes All which granted as cannot be denied the serious examination of the late Remonstrance and City Petition presented to the Parliament May 26. 1646. by the Citie representative yeelds matter reason sufficient for our utter dislike of if not protestation against the same that will appear if we consider First the Narrative and Remonstrative part of it Secondly the Prayer or Petitionary part of it Thirdly the probable tendency dangerous effects of both First for the Narative and Remonstrative part of it First we observe the Phrase Stile and Dialect thereof carrying a full compliance with his Majesties wonted Declarations against the Parliament and as if indeed drawn up by the same hand framed by the same head insinuating into the people that all manner of heresies schismes and blasphemies are tolerated and the fomentors thereof with all swarmes of Sectaries are encouraged emboldened yea admitted into places of profit and trust in Martiall and Civill affaires by the Parliament and that under a pretence of a Christian respect unto tender consciences evidenced in their late Declaration they designe a toleration for all these All which are dangerously insinuated page 2. Secondly a close but cleare intimation to the people that a sacred obligation lieth upon them from their solemn League and Covenant unto a down-right suppression of all those who cut either of weak or tender consciences cannot fully submit unto Presbyteriall government though it is notoriously known that the Parliament did promise in severall Declarations a gracious respect unto tender consciences did act accordingly in the beginning of this Parliament releasing many poore men of different judgements from their heavie pressures under the cruell tyranny of the late Prelats to the general contentment joy and acclamations of all the people for non-conformity unto their government though established by the Law of the Land and most evident it is that the end of the Covenant was not at all a rigid exaction of a forc'd uniformity unto Presbyterial government upon the subjects of England and the truth is all things considered it is a most putid and irrationall thing once to conceive that any such thing was ever intended by our present Parliament in the imposing therof For First could any suppose it could consist with the Parliaments wisdom to swear themselves enforce the people to covenant a subjection unto that Church government which they nor the people did not at that time understand Could it enter into their hearts at least to imagine that such a blind Sacrifice would ever atone the wrath of the Almighty for our former abuses in matters of Church government to lay the first stone of a blessed Reformation in blindnesse and ignorance and so to destroy Prelacy by Popery Secondly if they did understand this plat-form of Church-government to what end hath the Assembly been searching out the will of God about Church-government ever since the imposition hereof Was it to frame their Reformation according to the Word or the Word according to their resolutions Did they first resolve and then enquire First conclude and then debate If any reformed Church must be the exact pattern for us to walk by what need any further expence of toyle and time to find out the mind of God herein when the resolved pattern is before our eyes Thirdly it is notoriously known that the dissenting brethren in the Assembly Citie Countrey have taken this Covenant and were as forward in the promotion hereof by all due meanes as well as others knowing full well the true intent and meaning thereof and could we think they were so farre at variance with their own peace and future welfare as thus freely and voluntarily to contrive and promote the ruine hereof as it necessarily must follow upon the aforesaid interpretation Fourthly the Parliament did never yet give any such interpretation of the Covenant and who ought to explain the meaning but the makers thereof Is it not most absurd that they shall compose and enjoyn the Covenant and others shall put their sense upon it and endeavour the enforcement of their own sense both upon them and the whole Kingdome for no lesse is insinuated in this Remonstrance page the 3d. But you will say the very expresse letter declares the sense it is the very Text and not the interpretation which they plead being plain and obvious to every mans eye We reply The letter thereof doth not tye us to a perfect conformitie to Presbyteriall government already established in any reformed Church in the world for wee are tyed by our Covenant unto a sincere reall and constant endeavour in our severall places and callings the reformation of Religion in the Kingdomes of England and Ireland in Doctrine Worship Discipline and Government according to the Word of God and the best reformed Churches So that here is no positive determination of any thing but an engagement unto an inquisition after the best and the word of God to be our chiefe informer and directer herein and we are tyed likewise to the like endeavour of our nearest conjunction and uniformitie in Religion confession of faith forme of Church-Government Directory for worship and Catechizing viz. according to the word of God that possibly we can so that if our Brethren of Scotland have taken the same Covenant with us they are bound as well to hearken to what this Kingdome shall propound unto them as this Kingdome is to consider what is tendred from them to us and if they have not taken the same Covenant with us yet wee are bound by our Covenant in case this Kingdome finde out a more perfect way of Church-Government according to the word of God then that Kingdome of Scotland hath done wee are bound we say more to perswade and reason them over to