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A64003 A treatise of Mr. Cottons clearing certaine doubts concerning predestination together with an examination thereof / written by William Twisse ... Twisse, William, 1578?-1646. 1646 (1646) Wing T3425; ESTC R11205 234,561 280

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brethren_n and_o in_o regard_n first_o of_o parentage_n ver_fw-la 10._o second_o of_o personal_a condition_n and_o endowment_n ver_fw-la 11._o which_o freeness_n be_v also_o further_o set_v forth_o by_o the_o end_n of_o it_o that_o the_o purpose_n of_o god_n may_v stand_v firm_a as_o not_o depend_v on_o any_o condition_n in_o the_o creature_n ver_fw-la 11._o second_o a_o parallel_a promise_n suit_v to_o it_o prefer_v jacob_n before_o esau_n in_o god_n affection_n when_o they_o be_v both_o consider_v only_o as_o brethren_n ver_fw-la 13._o these_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v i_o confess_v the_o key_n of_o the_o whole_a exam._n chapter_n for_o open_v the_o meaning_n or_o at_o least_o make_v way_n to_o a_o fair_a understanding_n of_o all_o that_o follow_v if_o the_o jew_n be_v reject_v as_o the_o apostle_n presuppose_v to_o wit_n as_o touch_v the_o most_o of_o they_o in_o the_o former_a word_n than_o it_o may_v seem_v that_o god_n word_n be_v of_o none_o effect_n which_o consequence_n 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