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A45377 Some necessity of reformation of the publick doctrine of the Church of England. Or a modest and brief reply to Dr Pearson's modest and learned, No necessity of reformation of the publick doctrine of the Church of England. Directed to Dr Pearson himself. By William Hamilton gent. Hamilton, William, gent. 1660 (1660) Wing H489; ESTC R207963 20,948 32

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